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00:21.34 | FenixFyreX | Sorry, I rebooted. I edited alsa.conf, changed my default card to 1 instead of 0, and it all works now |
00:22.04 | FenixFyreX | Thank you guys for helping. I appreciate it. |
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04:51.22 | silv3r_m00n | rdieter: hi, found any solution ? |
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06:40.11 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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06:47.16 | Luke-T | hey could anybody help me with uninstalling kubuntu form my macbook? |
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07:25.31 | LapJup | i am trying to install a brother mfc3360c printer. using fedora 20. i am in the printer setup. that is hung up. so i am trying the shell script, bash linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1mfc3360c but i get this error. any ideas? |
07:26.22 | LapJup | the kde printer config does not have a driver for this printer |
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07:27.05 | LapJup | brother has the driver http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadhowto.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc3360c_all&os=127&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625 |
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08:04.08 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
08:04.37 | cousin_luigi | How come the flag icon in the systray is not large as the other ones? |
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08:12.40 | DaZ | because your country is small. |
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08:13.53 | nikhatzi | cousin_luigi: you can add a plasma add-on on your tray which displays the layout/flag bigger |
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08:22.04 | cousin_luigi | nikhatzi: would I have to modify the existing one? |
08:22.32 | nikhatzi | nop |
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08:22.55 | nikhatzi | just configure it to not be visible |
08:23.00 | nikhatzi | from systemsettings |
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08:23.05 | nikhatzi | and leave only your plasma addon |
08:23.08 | cousin_luigi | nikhatzi: but where would I get this other addon? |
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08:23.20 | nikhatzi | cousin_luigi: it's in your kde by default |
08:23.47 | nikhatzi | right click on system tray, options->add plasma addon |
08:23.54 | nikhatzi | you have to unlock it first though |
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08:24.15 | cousin_luigi | nikhatzi: any idea what it's called? |
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08:24.32 | nikhatzi | just add "layout" on the search box, it will show up then |
08:25.03 | cousin_luigi | can't find it |
08:25.09 | nikhatzi | what's your distro? |
08:25.10 | cousin_luigi | perhaps it's to be downloaded? |
08:25.12 | cousin_luigi | opensuse |
08:25.19 | nikhatzi | wait a minute to check |
08:25.28 | cousin_luigi | but I'm using kde 4.13 |
08:25.30 | nikhatzi | if you browse though the addons, you still can't find it? |
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08:26.08 | cousin_luigi | nikhatzi: I'm not sure what to look for. Also I'm using a localised version of kde. |
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08:26.39 | nikhatzi | cousin_luigi: does opensuse has a package named "plasma-addons"? |
08:26.41 | nikhatzi | if yes, install it |
08:26.55 | cousin_luigi | checking |
08:26.58 | nikhatzi | kk |
08:27.01 | cousin_luigi | already installed |
08:27.25 | nikhatzi | then it has to be there :/ |
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08:27.48 | nikhatzi | cousin_luigi: did you go to panel options->add plasma widget? |
08:27.54 | nikhatzi | plasma addon* |
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08:27.56 | cousin_luigi | nikhatzi: perhaps it's under another name |
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08:28.22 | nikhatzi | there are not that many addons though, you can check each one |
08:28.36 | cousin_luigi | nikhatzi: what does it look like? |
08:28.59 | nikhatzi | cousin_luigi: you are here, right? http://linuxlibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/kubuntu-11-04-41-400x300.jpg |
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08:29.14 | cousin_luigi | nikhatzi: precisely |
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08:29.44 | nikhatzi | ok, now browse them, you will see something like 'keyboard layout' |
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08:29.55 | nikhatzi | i have localized kde here, so a screenshot wouldn't help :/ |
08:30.05 | cousin_luigi | ooh, here it goes:D |
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08:30.17 | cousin_luigi | nikhatzi: now it's even too big:) |
08:30.21 | cousin_luigi | thanks |
08:30.24 | nikhatzi | don't you like it? :P |
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08:33.00 | cousin_luigi | nikhatzi: https://i.imgur.com/bv5lSU9.jpg I wish there was a compromise:/ |
08:33.14 | nikhatzi | oooooh |
08:33.20 | nikhatzi | you can somehow fix it :P |
08:33.34 | nikhatzi | just go to panel settings and drop its height a little bit |
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08:33.39 | nikhatzi | then all icons will have uniform size :P |
08:33.51 | nikhatzi | do you want a screenshot from me? |
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08:34.28 | cousin_luigi | nikhatzi: but then firetray will be too small:/ |
08:34.38 | nikhatzi | not at all, wait |
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08:35.14 | nikhatzi | cousin_luigi: http://s21.postimg.org/5imm3ysdz/kde.png |
08:35.30 | nikhatzi | also, what is firetray? |
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08:35.44 | cousin_luigi | the tray icon for mozilla firefox |
08:35.47 | cousin_luigi | sorry, thunderbird |
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08:35.57 | nikhatzi | it's an addon for thunderbird? |
08:36.09 | cousin_luigi | yes |
08:36.14 | nikhatzi | why do it this way? |
08:36.23 | nikhatzi | kde offers a setting to put any application you want to tray |
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08:36.28 | nikhatzi | (like i do with my thunderbird :P) |
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08:36.45 | cousin_luigi | it also says how many new messages there are |
08:36.50 | cousin_luigi | how do you do it? |
08:37.11 | nikhatzi | right click on kick off menu, edit applications, and then go to the application you want (thunderbird for example) |
08:37.23 | nikhatzi | on the right side, there is a check box saying to put it in tray |
08:37.29 | nikhatzi | save settings, voila! |
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08:37.55 | nikhatzi | you can do it for as many applications as you want |
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08:38.49 | cousin_luigi | will it tell you if there are unread messages? |
08:39.18 | nikhatzi | on the icon? no. but i get notifications on tray as thunderbird usually does |
08:39.32 | cousin_luigi | well, that's a feature I'd like to keep:| |
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08:39.44 | nikhatzi | ok np. did you check my screenshot? |
08:39.54 | cousin_luigi | yes, it looks ok |
08:40.05 | cousin_luigi | not sure why there's such a size mismatch on mine |
08:40.28 | cousin_luigi | I've tried reducing the height, but then some icons become too little |
08:40.30 | nikhatzi | i think it also has to do with your icon theme |
08:40.37 | cousin_luigi | it's oxygen |
08:41.01 | nikhatzi | oxygen...? |
08:41.08 | cousin_luigi | the default one |
08:41.20 | cousin_luigi | at least I believe that's what it's called |
08:41.23 | nikhatzi | what the... i have oxygen too :/ |
08:41.38 | cousin_luigi | what version of kde are you using? |
08:41.44 | nikhatzi | same as you |
08:41.48 | cousin_luigi | 4.13? |
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08:41.51 | nikhatzi | yup |
08:42.05 | nikhatzi | and always the oxygen icons are the same |
08:42.08 | cousin_luigi | the volume icon looks different |
08:42.15 | nikhatzi | the klipper icon too |
08:42.18 | cousin_luigi | yeah |
08:42.26 | nikhatzi | mayabe it's some icons from opensuse |
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08:42.33 | cousin_luigi | maybe |
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08:42.59 | cousin_luigi | but they were different before updating from 4.11 |
08:43.31 | nikhatzi | who knows... many distros change these things, so you can never be sure :P |
08:43.33 | cousin_luigi | well, I'm content enough. At least things work as they should now. |
08:44.10 | nikhatzi | :) |
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08:52.01 | nick87720z | hello. I just got kde 4.13 from kubuntu backport ppa (using launchpad, ubuntu 12.04). Made full reboot just for kdm restart (was a bit lazy to do it manually). Now akonadi doesn't work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7378246/ |
08:52.48 | nick87720z | I remember, that already had some problem with database. But can't remember, how it may be got working back. |
08:53.10 | nick87720z | And what exactly that error was. |
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09:54.32 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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11:27.23 | alin | hi Sho_ |
11:27.35 | alin | I was told you are the master of konsole in kf5 |
11:27.51 | Sho_ | alin: I'm not (who told you that? :) |
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11:28.22 | alin | Sho_: matters little... |
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11:28.45 | Sho_ | alin: I'm the Yakuake maintainer and ported that to KF5 of course, but the Konsole KF5 port was done by Kurt |
11:28.53 | alin | seems I got a strange behaviour... freezing plasma when right click in konsole and yakuake |
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11:29.12 | Sho_ | alin: my hunch would be some sort of d-bus lockup |
11:29.30 | alin | Sho_: I have no idea about that... |
11:29.38 | alin | Sho_: the point is that happens only once |
11:29.40 | alin | once |
11:29.59 | Sho_ | alin: Unfortunately I really don't have time to go on a goose chase atm :/ |
11:30.09 | Sho_ | I'd suggest filing it for now |
11:30.29 | alin | Sho_: t happens only once when I start the session... both for yakuake and konsole... |
11:30.42 | alin | Sho_: so the point which component shall I report it too |
11:30.50 | Sho_ | alin: Konsole for now |
11:31.48 | alin | Sho_: ok... |
11:32.31 | alin | Sho_: another issue... this time yakuake... pressing F12 brings it up... as expected... but pressing F12 again... hides it and brings it back again immediately |
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11:34.47 | frankffm | moin moin |
11:36.06 | frankffm | hab eine frage zu kde 4.13 |
11:37.20 | ChemBro | this is an english speaking channel |
11:37.37 | frankffm | oh sorry |
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11:47.07 | leszek | hi |
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11:51.37 | ChALkeR | Hi all. |
11:51.49 | ChALkeR | What does baloo file cleaner do? |
11:52.04 | ChALkeR | It kept my i/o busy for days, I just killed it. |
11:52.24 | ChALkeR | 4.13.0 |
11:52.46 | murzyn | it does some database stuff, iirc |
11:53.34 | ChALkeR | It didn't look normal. |
11:55.52 | ChALkeR | Ah, judging from the planetkde.org it should be already fixed for 4.13.1 |
11:55.53 | ChALkeR | Ok. |
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12:07.38 | ed_t | is archiving working in 4.13 for anyone. Here it seems to move the messages to the archive but produced LOTS of duplicate messages. When I clean these up all the messages reappear in the original folder... |
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12:11.16 | BluesKaj | ChALkeR, you can set baloo to ignore dirs if you wish by adding them to baloo "do not search these locations" in system settings/desktop search, for example /home/your username |
12:11.50 | FernandoBasso | What is this "Desktop Search" in System Settings? Is it this "Baloon" that people have been trying to disable? How do I use it? |
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12:12.16 | BluesKaj | FernandoBasso, see my post above to ChALkeR |
12:12.16 | ChemBro | it's baloo |
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12:12.52 | FernandoBasso | I want to try to use it. |
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12:13.09 | FernandoBasso | Do I hit alt+f2 and type something to use it? |
12:13.30 | BluesKaj | FernandoBasso, then just leave it at the default settings |
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12:13.47 | FernandoBasso | It is, but how do I search for something using it? |
12:14.10 | BluesKaj | FernandoBasso, did you see my post above to ChALkeR? |
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12:14.42 | FernandoBasso | Only the part about ignoring $HOME. |
12:15.59 | ChALkeR | BluesKaj: Guess what? That's what I did _before_ that problem occured. =) |
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12:17.16 | ChALkeR | BluesKaj: Before that, baloo_file_indexer was always idexing something. I added /home to "do not search these locations", baloo file indexer disappeared, but balloo file cleaner showed up. |
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12:18.22 | ChALkeR | I left it running (thinking that it's just cleaning metadata that's not needed anymore) and checked back after more than a day, it was still doing something and loading i/o. |
12:19.55 | ChALkeR | Killing baloo file cleaner and removing ~/.local/share/baloo/ helped. |
12:20.56 | ChALkeR | baloo file indexer had the same problem - it was always loading i/o. |
12:21.14 | ChALkeR | And I just don't use file search. |
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12:22.23 | BluesKaj | ChALkeR, yeah i don't bother with baloo either |
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12:23.45 | BluesKaj | there's doesn't seem to be much documentation regarding it's search functions |
12:24.02 | FernandoBasso | So, how would one search for stuff using this Baloo? |
12:24.05 | bretzel | ...so, mariadb 10.x + KDE Akonadi are no friends ? |
12:24.24 | Sho_ | FernandoBasso: Dolphin, KRunner, .. |
12:24.25 | ChALkeR | There should be some ui to keep track of what baloo is doing at the moment. |
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12:25.37 | ChALkeR | It's possible manually, but it's not convenient to do that every time. |
12:25.41 | FernandoBasso | gnome tracker is improving, slowly. I believe this Baloo will improve faster than gnome tracker. |
12:26.16 | FernandoBasso | Sho_: Thanks. |
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12:39.23 | nick87720z | hey! Is there some solution for that problem with akonadi database, after upgrade to kde 4.13? Btw, could it be if some apps (kmail, korgac, kalarm, etc) are terminated by SIGTERM (i.e. not killed)? |
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12:44.12 | rdieter | nick87720z: "that" problem? (do you have details, or bug links ?) |
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13:12.33 | nick87720z | rdieter: oh, no. I described it today several hours ago... |
13:13.04 | nick87720z | 5h ago |
13:13.10 | nick87720z | hello. I just got kde 4.13 from kubuntu backport ppa (using launchpad, ubuntu 12.04). Made full reboot just for kdm restart (was a bit lazy to do it manually). Now akonadi doesn't work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7378246/ |
13:13.55 | nick87720z | Currently i'm without mail. |
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13:15.44 | rdieter | nick87720z: it would appear your akonadi db contains some invalid entries |
13:15.55 | silv3r_m00n | rdieter: hi |
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13:17.21 | rdieter | nick87720z: some post akonadi-1.13.1 upstream commits try to fix that, either poke your packagers to include that, or wait for akonadi-1.13.2 release |
13:17.52 | nick87720z | so, same database should work later? |
13:17.58 | nick87720z | after upgrade |
13:19.22 | silv3r_m00n | rdieter: i made the post here, http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=120945 |
13:19.46 | silv3r_m00n | rdieter: related to yesterday's discussion over fonts |
13:20.08 | rdieter | nick87720z: see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331867 |
13:20.48 | nick87720z | rdieter: thanks, looks like exactly like my |
13:21.08 | rdieter | nick87720z: sorry, I got the versions wrong. 1.12.1 and 1.12.2 |
13:21.12 | rdieter | (not 1.13.x) |
13:21.38 | nick87720z | ok |
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14:28.18 | bretzel | I am in archlinux and I read that it is mariadb 10.x that causes the crashes because akonadi is still using previous mysql api as new mariadb api is no more compatible with it. |
14:29.24 | rdieter | bretzel: that's probably more a distro or -devel question |
14:30.07 | rdieter | mariadb 10.x *claims* to be api compatible, so problems may imply that 10.x is yet a little buggy in that regard |
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14:45.15 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
14:45.27 | cousin_luigi | How do I disable the recently accessed files feature in dolphin? |
14:45.35 | cousin_luigi | (and everywhere else if possible) |
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15:00.11 | scummos | cousin_luigi: why would you want to do that? |
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15:00.26 | scummos | I think there even exists a control module, somewhere under privacy |
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15:09.12 | cousin_luigi | scummos: I don't like the idea of having my activity recorded. |
15:10.54 | scummos | cousin_luigi: in workspace behaviour there is such a setting |
15:12.56 | cousin_luigi | scummos: can't say I see it |
15:13.13 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: under activities |
15:13.17 | scummos | http://i.imgur.com/vZD5IEp.png |
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15:16.00 | cousin_luigi | scummos: It's already set |
15:16.12 | cousin_luigi | but dolphin still has a history to show |
15:16.14 | scummos | not impossible it's broken because nobody uses it |
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15:16.20 | scummos | but maybe it just works for new history |
15:16.26 | scummos | also some applications might not use this history class |
15:16.54 | cousin_luigi | I've found a reference about a couple of files to be chattr +i |
15:17.03 | cousin_luigi | I guess I'll try that |
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15:21.19 | rdieter | <nod>, I can confirm that the clear history button doesnt seem to work as advertised (I still see stuff under "recently accessed" in dolphin too) |
15:21.54 | rdieter | "clear recent history" that is... I selected "Forget everything" |
15:22.02 | cousin_luigi | yes, tried that |
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15:22.24 | cousin_luigi | doesn't work for dolphin |
15:23.17 | rdieter | looks like we found a bug |
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15:26.23 | rdieter | quick search doesnt find any existing one yet either. may file one myself later (after I dig out of a hole of several meetings) |
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17:39.10 | rdieter | zcoldplayer: possibly with qmlviewer (part of qt) |
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17:52.06 | jpa- | my kwin hangs when I log in from kdm and click on any application icon; however if I kill -9 and restart it, then it works fine |
17:52.21 | jpa- | in gdb I can see it waiting in xcb_wait_for_event() |
17:54.12 | jpa- | hmm, might be https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313830 after all |
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17:55.42 | ebfull | my cursor suddenly stopped working (could move it around but couldn't click anything) |
17:55.45 | ebfull | had to restart kdm |
17:55.52 | ebfull | any tips for debugging that the next time it happens? |
17:56.34 | jpa- | ebfull: attach with gdb and get backtrace (just have to figure out which process.. kwin is a good guess) |
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17:59.11 | ebfull | if kwin did segfault or something, where would the core dumps end up |
17:59.15 | ebfull | or logs for that |
17:59.50 | jpa- | depends on system configuration - most likely nowhere, or some system specific crash reporter like in ubuntu |
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18:11.34 | ebfull | i was able to replicate the cursor bug i just had |
18:12.06 | ebfull | 1. go to youtube video, right click and left click on the player over and over until when you hover over the timeline it doesn't preview |
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18:12.22 | ebfull | 2. start switching applications randomly (for me it was between spotify and konsole) until the cursor stops responding |
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18:12.42 | ebfull | i attached with gdb and did bt but i'm not sure if it is a useful output |
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18:13.53 | ebfull | http://pastie.org/pastes/9134353/text?key=gn6ihhgm9igc1boxfx8a |
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19:05.10 | ed_t | is email archiving working in 4.13 for anyone? Here it seems to move the messages to the archive but produces LOTS of duplicate messages in the archive. When I clean these up all the messages reappear in the original folder... Anyone else? |
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20:12.30 | Stallmanu | Does the plasma-nm settings dialog not properly resize for anyone else? |
20:12.50 | Stallmanu | I am able to resize the dialog but the widgets within it dont scale properly |
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20:26.24 | eristisk | So is akonadi supposed to take multiple hours on a modern computer to initialise? |
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20:26.53 | eristisk | Because it is using 100% of one of my CPU cores for quite a while now upon a fresh "akonadictl start" |
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20:29.21 | scummos | eristisk: no |
20:29.29 | scummos | eristisk: well, unless you have like 4 million emails |
20:30.12 | eristisk | No emails |
20:30.20 | eristisk | unless it's indexing Thunderbird? |
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20:42.09 | scummos | eristisk: no, it's not |
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20:47.03 | eristisk | Error: akonadi_control was started but didn't register at D-Bus session bus. |
20:47.03 | eristisk | Make sure your system is set up correctly! |
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21:52.36 | eristisk | Can I run krunner without Akonadi? |
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21:53.30 | leszek | eristisk: yes |
21:53.49 | eristisk | ...which depends on MySQL/MariaDB? |
21:54.45 | eristisk | Because I Akonadi completely broke upon upgrade to 4.13, and now Krunner can't function. |
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21:57.02 | leszek | akonadi does not depend on mysql. There are several backend like sqlite and postresql |
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21:57.46 | leszek | eristisk: krunner might use plugins which depend on akonadi. Disabling those should make it run again. |
21:57.53 | leszek | eristisk: which distro ? |
21:58.07 | eristisk | Arch |
21:58.39 | eristisk | I really don't want to run MariaDB, and if I can help it not run Akonadi. |
21:58.48 | eristisk | But I *need* KRunner |
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22:03.07 | eristisk | leszek: How do I find which plugins use akonadi, and how can I disable them? |
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22:04.43 | leszek | eristisk: if krunner isn't even starting you need to manually somehow edit the config file and I would try disabling them all and then enabling one by one to see which one uses akonadi. I guess the contacts, mail and calendar stuff uses akonadi. But these are only the obvious choices. Some others might use it too |
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22:28.42 | pandark | hello |
22:28.56 | pandark | how to desactivate baloo extractor please ?? |
22:29.20 | pandark | lot cpu ressource needed by this ... |
22:29.28 | pandark | and dont use this baloo |
22:29.46 | pandark | i have exluce my home and now baloo file cleaner ... |
22:30.14 | pandark | i hate this |
22:36.06 | pandark | why kdedevs activ indexing by default ?? |
22:36.17 | pandark | its tataly useless by lot of users |
22:36.22 | pandark | i dont understand !! |
22:36.38 | pandark | it's ridicule |
22:37.11 | pandark | no need indexing file |
22:37.42 | pandark | my files ordered correctly in folders .... |
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22:41.13 | IkeKrull | pandark: theres no point complaining.. file indexing by default is seen as core kde functionality by kde devs. if you don't like it, find a method to disable it on the internet (theres symlinking indexer/cleaner binaries to /bin/true, an undocumented config file disable method, and the official method which is adding your home directory to the 'ignore these folders' list - or patch it out yourself and rebuild kde, or find another desktop |
22:42.50 | pandark | but i think generaly users dont need files indexing by default |
22:43.05 | pandark | it' stupid but a lot cpu and ram is needed for this |
22:43.13 | pandark | and slow some computer !! |
22:43.20 | pandark | slowing * |
22:43.39 | pandark | sorry my english is poor |
22:43.56 | pandark | 693* |
22:44.00 | pandark | oups |
22:46.52 | IkeKrull | pandark: and again, while many might agree, kde devs don't and they are the ones who do the work. its not like you are the first (or even the 50,000th) person to complain, but the policy of 'file indexing is something we want on by default in kde' is what they have decided |
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22:47.42 | IkeKrull | and its very clear, looking at mailing lists, irc, forums and blogs, that this is not going to change. |
22:48.17 | valorie | I organize my files intelligently, and still love having indexing |
22:48.40 | valorie | baloo was busy for awhile, and now so quiet top doesn't even know about it |
22:49.39 | valorie | pandark: once it's done, you won't notice it |
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22:53.12 | pandark | only my home indexing .. and it's run from this afternoon aproximatively 10 hours !! |
22:53.36 | pandark | for my little home ~ 30Go |
22:53.45 | pandark | ............ |
22:54.26 | pandark | scan cached folders maybe .?? he scan .folders ?? |
22:54.29 | pandark | it's insane !! |
22:54.45 | valorie | if you think it is too much, please file a bug |
22:54.54 | valorie | the developers are very responsive |
22:58.12 | obsed | and Staying On!! |
22:59.00 | obsed | pandark: did you configure it to exclude those folders from scanning perhaps ? |
23:07.27 | pandark | yes obsed my mounted partitions as been already deastived |
23:07.36 | pandark | only my home |
23:07.46 | pandark | i add to exclude |
23:08.07 | pandark | but now it's baloo file cleaner |
23:09.02 | pandark | run since ~40 minute |
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23:10.32 | ebfull | is there a verbose option or something for logging api calls made to kwin |
23:10.54 | ebfull | i have an application which is hijacking all my mouse clicks |
23:11.00 | scummos | lol |
23:11.12 | ebfull | i have to restart kwin to click again ;( |
23:12.47 | scummos | dbus has some methods, see qdbusviewer |
23:12.51 | scummos | maybe that helps |
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23:38.01 | FernandoBasso | Any way to make dolphin show status dropbox icons? |
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23:54.30 | valorie | FernandoBasso: I heard there was a plugin for dolphin |
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23:55.46 | FernandoBasso | valorie: I hope some. My search ended up with an alternative dropbox client, which I'm not willing to use. |
23:56.37 | valorie | preferences > Services |
23:56.52 | valorie | I had to "download new services" and search for dropbox |