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| 00:15.18 | moviuro | hmmmm… And now Okular blocks the view after I change the zoom level :-/ |
| 00:15.38 | moviuro | (will try to repeat, later, an other day, maybe) |
| 00:30.05 | bwayne | saw this [http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/11/loving_it.png] in the ML today. I understand it's plasma-next. where would one acquire all of the things? |
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| 00:44.29 | moviuro | bwayne: there should be some git repo somewhere |
| 00:45.40 | Phr33d0m | bwayne looks like normal kde to me with some styling |
| 00:45.58 | moviuro | Phr33d0m: nope, tha'ts plasma next ;) |
| 00:46.06 | Phr33d0m | how would one know that? |
| 00:47.08 | moviuro | new Oxygen theme, new borders, new icons, new clock plasmoid |
| 00:47.26 | moviuro | I saw a similar screenshot on my G+ feed not so long ago |
| 00:47.29 | moviuro | Phr33d0m: ^ |
| 00:47.41 | moviuro | however, one could try to mimic next in KDE4 |
| 00:48.01 | Phr33d0m | I haven't indeed seen that clock plasmoid before, yet the theme/borders/icons can be modified with custom theming |
| 00:48.13 | Phr33d0m | but yeah, checking it now it's plasma-next indeed |
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| 00:53.55 | bwayne | found it. http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building |
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| 01:19.08 | piousminion | How does one set the default browser for qt apps? |
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| 01:20.11 | Phr33d0m | in the system settings you have 'default apps' |
| 01:21.11 | piousminion | Is there a manual way to do this? e.g. editing a config file |
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| 01:25.46 | Phr33d0m | piousminion .kde4/share/config/kdeglobals:140:BrowserApplication[$e]=!chromium-browser %U |
| 01:26.03 | Phr33d0m | probably ;) |
| 01:26.51 | piousminion | thanks |
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| 01:38.35 | sandman13 | guys please suggest me some minimal themes that are compatible with kde 4.8 |
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| 01:58.40 | Third3ye | bwayne: goody :>Ey |
| 01:58.43 | Third3ye | Dangit |
| 01:58.45 | Third3ye | Hey |
| 01:59.37 | Third3ye | How well has QML support been integrated in 4.12.4? |
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| 02:00.46 | moviuro | just noticed he didn't have to turn Be::Clock off before selecting a picutre in okular |
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| 02:01.43 | moviuro | Third3ye: pretty good IIRC, kickoff and notifications among others are QML now |
| 02:02.32 | moviuro | I'm no expert though, you might want to ask Google and crawl into the forums to see |
| 02:02.38 | Third3ye | moviuro: Ah, good -- been noticing some tearing, but still running on rsater because I'm not sure if my GL setup is ok >.>; |
| 02:02.56 | Third3ye | Are you using OpenGL as a backend, or are you sticking with xraster? |
| 02:03.13 | moviuro | OpenGL IIRC |
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| 02:04.13 | moviuro | OpenGL 3.1 + Raster on Radeon HD 5850 |
| 02:04.25 | Third3ye | Ah, grand |
| 02:04.27 | moviuro | OpenGL 3.1 + ? on Intel HD3000 |
| 02:04.41 | moviuro | ^ last machine is off and it's late ^_^ |
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| 02:04.51 | moviuro | or really early |
| 02:04.53 | Third3ye | + raster...? I see only either or situation in my settings... |
| 02:04.59 | Third3ye | or are you refering to compiz and such? |
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| 02:13.21 | moviuro | Third3ye: under the openGL option |
| 02:13.38 | athan | How do I add applications to the application launcher? |
| 02:13.42 | moviuro | Qt graphics system: Raster/Native |
| 02:13.47 | moviuro | athan: kmenuedit |
| 02:14.19 | athan | moviuro: Thank you :) |
| 02:15.13 | moviuro | doesn't work for kickoff though (I don't use it) I don't know what to do with kickoff, though your best bet is to drag & drop from URL applications:/ in dolphin into kickoff |
| 02:15.17 | moviuro | athan: ^ |
| 02:16.12 | athan | Dolphin Kickoff? |
| 02:17.13 | moviuro | dolphin is the file manager |
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| 02:17.24 | moviuro | kickoff is the weird menu with huge icons |
| 02:17.39 | moviuro | kickoff is a plasma applet and dolphin is a KDE application |
| 02:18.36 | athan | ahh I see |
| 02:18.37 | athan | okay |
| 02:18.39 | athan | hmm |
| 02:18.53 | athan | so I should just drag the binary file into the application launcher app? |
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| 02:19.28 | Third3ye | Well... you could, theoretically, but I think you should use "Add Item" instead.. |
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| 02:20.49 | moviuro | never used kickoff since… 2009? |
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| 05:47.50 | Marquel | morning. is kde removing semantic desktop functionality or just phasing out nepomuk in favor of something different? |
| 05:51.03 | donniezazen | Marquel: Nepomuk has been deprecated in favor of Baloo in 4.13 http://community.kde.org/Baloo |
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| 09:50.20 | moviuro | dhaval2712: which distro? which version. |
| 09:50.22 | moviuro | ? |
| 09:50.43 | dhaval2712 | F20, kernel 3.14 |
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| 09:51.15 | moviuro | dhaval2712: KDE/KDM version? |
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| 10:59.52 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
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| 11:28.08 | rindolf | BluesKaj: morning. |
| 11:28.11 | rindolf | Morning, all. |
| 11:28.13 | rindolf | BluesKaj: what's new? |
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| 11:31.05 | BluesKaj | HI rindolf, just trying to find out if this url/falsh works for users outside of Canada. I'm connected thru a vpn server in Chicago and it does work with chromium , but not FF, http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/more-than-200-trapped-after-turkish-mine-blast-fire-1.1820660 |
| 11:31.15 | BluesKaj | err flash |
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| 11:32.24 | rindolf | BluesKaj: I don't have the Adobe Flash plug-in installed. |
| 11:33.08 | BluesKaj | rindolf, ok , understood |
| 11:34.43 | houlu | hello everybody. If I connect my ipad mini to my computer, it identifies some "camera". I want to disable this, because i think that this behaviour interferes with my attempt to use usbmuxd to connect to the ipad. i assume that i have to write a udev-rule. Is that assumption correct? |
| 11:36.08 | BluesKaj | rindolf, so you're strictly HTML5 then? |
| 11:36.19 | rindolf | BluesKaj: what? |
| 11:36.42 | rindolf | BluesKaj: I just find the Flash player a nuisance. |
| 11:37.00 | BluesKaj | the new webvideo protocol |
| 11:37.19 | hateball | BluesKaj: It seems to want something newer than flash 11.2 |
| 11:37.32 | hateball | as it works in chromium with pepperflash but not with npapi flash in firefox |
| 11:37.35 | hateball | (in sweden) |
| 11:37.52 | hateball | And yes, Flash is awful |
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| 11:40.48 | BluesKaj | agreed hateball , but it's going to take some time before webmasters adopt HTML5, it's like Windows XP, they won't change 'til they're forced to |
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| 12:39.33 | rndbit | oh noez kde is again being homo about acessing file system. loooong lockups. if anyoen has any ideas where to start look for the cause i would be glad to hear :| |
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| 12:42.04 | rndbit | oh and some hotkeys stop working in my IDE after something happens. what could interfere with app hotkeys? after restart it works fine, sometimes works fine for entire day, sometimes hour or few in uptime those hotkeys stop working. restarting machine helps, restarting IDE doesnt.. |
| 12:43.48 | svuorela | rndbit: "being homo" ? |
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| 12:45.14 | rndbit | haha... takes very long for say open dolphin, or open dialog for opening file. basically anything that should make list of files |
| 12:45.16 | hateball | Perhaps they mean homo as in homo sapiens sapiens, which are flawed an unreliable |
| 12:45.27 | rndbit | ^ totally works |
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| 13:32.57 | rndbit | lol hotkeys are back without restart. just on their own. this is madness |
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| 13:35.59 | LucidGuy | Morning |
| 13:36.04 | LucidGuy | for me at least |
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| 13:36.28 | LucidGuy | rdieter, ready for some more questions |
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| 13:46.19 | Papierkorb | Hello, I'm on KDE4.13.0 on ArchLinux x64 (Latest updates installed). Problem is, after I logged in, KDE restores the session (which is fine) correctly, then after that, I'm not able to start any X application anymore. Konsole/shell works fine. |
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| 13:46.33 | rdieter | LucidGuy: ok, though I'm a little busy, can't promise how responsive I'll be |
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| 13:47.11 | Papierkorb | When I start a X application from shell, it's just sleeping (according to htop), but doesn't do anything. No output on stdout either. (Tried with speedcrunch) |
| 13:47.36 | Papierkorb | Having this issue since Monday |
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| 13:49.46 | Papierkorb | Also interesting is that the K-Menu plasmoid takes a minute or two to open (Not kidding) |
| 13:50.16 | Papierkorb | Something is really messed up, basically it renders my computer useless |
| 13:50.41 | rdieter | Papierkorb: I'd suggeset asking your distro first, something is definitely not right, and it's most likely not a kde issue (strictly) |
| 13:50.53 | LucidGuy | rdieter, I perfectly understand you are not able to answer questions at times. |
| 13:51.11 | LucidGuy | rdieter, how familiar are you with the screenlocker/saver .. and ldap authentication? |
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| 13:51.22 | Papierkorb | rdieter: Thanks, will do that. |
| 13:51.37 | rdieter | LucidGuy: locker... a bit... ldap auth not much |
| 13:51.41 | FernandoBasso | Papierkorb: kde 4.13.0 arch linux, 32 bits. zero problems so far. |
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| 13:52.25 | rdieter | LucidGuy: I'm guessing you may have some auth problems unlocking screen using ldap credentials? :) |
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| 13:52.31 | FernandoBasso | Is he left? (irssi is ignoring join/parts) |
| 13:52.41 | FernandoBasso | s/Is/Has/ |
| 13:52.47 | rdieter | FernandoBasso: just left, yes |
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| 13:54.42 | Papierkorb | rdieter: Though that doesn't explain why plasma is being ultra unresponsive, taking minutes to react |
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| 13:55.19 | Papierkorb | My taskbar doesn't do anything, alt-tabbing works perfectly fine though. Notifications take 20s to popup, etc. |
| 13:56.07 | rdieter | Papierkorb: I'm guessing it's something low-level, possibly kernel/driver related (video or network), possibly dbus, who knows |
| 13:56.18 | FernandoBasso | Papierkorb: Have you tried moving ~/.kde4 away? |
| 13:56.47 | Papierkorb | FernandoBasso: Nope. Is there some kind of import/export feature so I don't have to set everything up again from zero? |
| 13:56.52 | rdieter | dbus is where I would start looking |
| 13:57.20 | FernandoBasso | Papierkorb: mv ~/.kde4 ~/bk_kde4 -- then later you can do mv ~/.bk_kde4 ~/.kde4 if you want. |
| 13:57.29 | rdieter | see /topic, don't touch ~/.kde(4), unless you're really really desperate (and have a note from your mom) |
| 13:58.03 | FernandoBasso | rdieter: I don't see how Papierkorb's situation could be worse. :) |
| 13:58.22 | rdieter | FernandoBasso: at least stuff is running, albeit slowly |
| 13:58.23 | Papierkorb | huh? Where's system-settings gone? Was the tool renamed or something? |
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| 13:58.36 | rdieter | Papierkorb: no, still systemsettings |
| 13:58.39 | FernandoBasso | rdieter: You are right. :) |
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| 14:00.09 | rdieter | other possible culprits: dns resolution (ipv6 issues too), cpu/memory pressure (ie, is system overloaded?) |
| 14:00.43 | Papierkorb | I hope network isn't needed to start systemsettings. CPU and RAM are fine/sleeping |
| 14:00.49 | LucidGuy | rdieter, yes .. sorry got pulled away. I can login with both local and ldap accounts. I can lock and unlock the screen with my ldap account. I CANNOT unlock the screen with a local account .. WTF? |
| 14:00.50 | rdieter | sometimes simple fix: try restarting your session (logout/login)? |
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| 14:01.14 | rdieter | LucidGuy: ok, check pam configuration |
| 14:01.26 | Papierkorb | rdieter: daily restart, problem persists since yesterday. Today I already restarted the session, a quick OpenBox session was working fine for me |
| 14:02.09 | Papierkorb | I just ran a Gtk tool (Why didn't I do that earlier?), works fine. Only KDE applications seem to have issues |
| 14:02.10 | rdieter | Papierkorb: anything notable happen yesterday? install any updates? change the system in any way (video or network)? |
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| 14:02.38 | Papierkorb | rdieter: Yep, since system update on monday eve, I think there was a new kernel and KDE4.13.0 |
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| 14:02.59 | rdieter | Papierkorb: ah ha, if possible, revert the kernel, and see if that helps |
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| 14:03.29 | rdieter | (or quick-n-dirty, disable desktop effects temporarily, and see if that helps any) |
| 14:03.52 | Papierkorb | Nope, compositing isn't the culprit it seems |
| 14:04.17 | rdieter | for example, I hit some bad regressions on an older laptop upgrading kernel 3.13->3.14 recently |
| 14:04.29 | rdieter | (but mine were crashes and backlight control issues) |
| 14:04.40 | Sho_ | rndbit: fwiw hatespeak like "being homo" is not acceptable in this venue |
| 14:05.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | Papierkorb: I'd try to restart plasma |
| 14:05.20 | LucidGuy | rdieter, any one of these conf files I should check in particular? This is what I changed for ldap to auth .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7462881/ |
| 14:05.23 | Papierkorb | I'm on a desktop pc, nvidia graphics (binary/official driver) |
| 14:05.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | when alt-tab "just works" but everything plasma based takes ages |
| 14:06.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | graphics driver etc shouldn't be selective issue to plasma |
| 14:06.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | also dbus prolly isn't selectively a plasma problem |
| 14:06.50 | rdieter | LucidGuy: depends on distro, for example, mine (fedora), configures screenlocker to use /etc/pam.d/kscreensaver vs usual /etc/pam.d/kcheckpass |
| 14:07.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | Papierkorb: first thing I'd try: create a user "test-It", start a new kde session for the new user. Check how that new session behaves |
| 14:08.13 | rndbit | Sho_ that was in no way reference to gay people. im fine with them therefore it can not be hate speak :p |
| 14:08.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi Sho_ |
| 14:08.38 | LucidGuy | rdieter, I have neither of those.. |
| 14:09.00 | rdieter | LucidGuy: turns out they happen to be the same on my box, again, depends on how kde-workspace was configured on your distro |
| 14:09.21 | rdieter | LucidGuy: hint, ask #kubuntu or #ubuntu |
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| 14:10.06 | LucidGuy | rdieter, thanks, will do. |
| 14:10.16 | Papierkorb | Okay, killing plasma-desktop took all KDE applications with it. Let's see if the kernel downgrade helped |
| 14:10.28 | Papierkorb | Nope, still the same issue. |
| 14:11.20 | rdieter | Papierkorb: plasma-desktop only affects plasma items, kde applications should continue running fine |
| 14:11.22 | Papierkorb | I'm now on linux 3.14.2, downgraded from linux 3.14.3 |
| 14:11.37 | Papierkorb | Exactly, they should, plasma-desktop isn't KWin afterall |
| 14:11.54 | rdieter | for example, my running konsole konversation continues fine without plasma-desktop |
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| 14:12.22 | Papierkorb | For some strange reason, it kicked me on virtual desktop 2 from 3 where I'm usually on |
| 14:12.51 | Papierkorb | are there some kind of env vars I could set or whatever to make KDE applications more verbose on what they're doing? |
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| 14:15.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | <kde-app> --help(-all) |
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| 14:18.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | also seems there's some similarity in between what Papierkorb reports and what rndbit complains about re file systems |
| 14:18.31 | Papierkorb | mh? |
| 14:19.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-05-14 Wed 14:39:32] <rndbit> oh noez kde is again being homo about acessing file system. loooong lockups. |
| 14:19.32 | Papierkorb | Not the way I'd put it, but Kate is running fine |
| 14:20.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | depending on the level these long lockups happen, it might be a problem for all binaries that happen to want to access a certain fs |
| 14:20.33 | rndbit | in my case after rather long lockup they wake up and work fine |
| 14:20.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | DNS resolv issue? |
| 14:20.59 | Papierkorb | D-Bus seems to work, i'm able to open some file by running 'kate foo' in a shell, which opens foo in the running kate instance. but the shell instance of kate doesn't return like it always did |
| 14:21.50 | Papierkorb | DocScrutinizer05: no idea what DNS would have to do with that (I hope nothing, that'd be a strange connection), but dig needs 7ms to look up google.com, so I think that's fine |
| 14:22.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 14:22.57 | Papierkorb | Really strange is that my KDE session is restored correctly, KDE applications are running fine which are started by the session manager (Or whatever code actually does that) |
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| 14:23.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, it's a few years back when I witnessed weird URLs like (made up example) systemsettings.kde.local getting asked for their IP to my remote DNS service/server |
| 14:24.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | seen that in a wireshark debugging session I did for other reasons |
| 14:24.39 | Papierkorb | dbus-monitor shows a happy connection |
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| 14:25.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly/hopefully moot today with a "fixed" KDE ;-) |
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| 14:27.08 | Papierkorb | DocScrutinizer05: Mh, well I'll just let systemsettings running, if it's a dbus issue some call it does should time out any moment anyway |
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| 14:30.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | I've also seen huge delays in konqueror on opening arbitrary new windows when IPv6 got flawed - I.E. when it been enabled but not available, and a random URL had an AAAA record or didn't return proper answer from DNS server, or whatever |
| 14:31.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | a simple way to rule out any/all of that: go offline, test again |
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| 14:32.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | offline in a way so kde knows there's no network connection |
| 14:32.29 | Papierkorb_ | Nope, that doesn't work |
| 14:32.35 | rndbit | another bit of info: doubleclicked file in dolphin - locked up, clicked open file in kate - locked up. after 10 or so seconds both unlocked at the same time. so must be same problem |
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| 14:32.47 | Papierkorb_ | using NetworkManager, killed the connection through the somehow working networkmanagement plasmoid |
| 14:32.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | then you at least know it's not realted to any network stuff |
| 14:33.13 | Papierkorb_ | mh, I can't think of a Qt but not KDE application |
| 14:33.25 | Papierkorb_ | was hard to even remember a Gtk application |
| 14:33.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | huge timeouts often are linked to network somehow |
| 14:34.10 | Papierkorb_ | DocScrutinizer05: 'systemsettings' tried to show a window for 5 minutes, i think that's enough |
| 14:34.48 | Papierkorb_ | Let me hack away some test Qt application |
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| 14:35.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | qdbusviewer? dunno |
| 14:36.26 | Papierkorb_ | DocScrutinizer05: Qt doesn't work |
| 14:37.08 | Papierkorb_ | http://pastebin.com/mVVch6P1 The most basic example doesn't work, same behaviour like KDE applications |
| 14:37.41 | Papierkorb_ | As a dev using Qt .. I have no clue what could go wrong there. Hah. Great. |
| 14:38.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | xeyes? |
| 14:38.18 | Papierkorb_ | DocScrutinizer05: don't have that, but glxgears works fine |
| 14:38.45 | Papierkorb_ | So even the 3D drivers work fine |
| 14:38.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, out of ideas. Just: try a second session for a new user |
| 14:40.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | nb I'm no kde expert in any way either. |
| 14:41.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are probably 50% of users in here who could share more qualified advice |
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| 14:42.47 | Papierkorb | After several restarts and several sessions I think it's save to say that this issue is somewhat permanent |
| 14:43.13 | Papierkorb | It's also not a linux kernel issue - I downgraded already, still no luck. |
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| 14:44.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | kernel hardly the culprit for issues specific to Qt and KDE apps |
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| 14:45.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | (will take a few more revisions until kernel has KDE specific stuff built in ;-D ) |
| 14:45.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | kdbus comes to mind |
| 14:46.47 | Papierkorb | I just killed dbus. Firefox doesn't think that's funny, surprisingly enough, i mean it's a sophicated website rendering tool, why on earth would it care about dbus? Either way, starting KDE applications now yield an error that Dbus isn't running |
| 14:47.40 | Papierkorb | But hey, the K-Menu is really snappy now |
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| 14:49.30 | Papierkorb | Using Dbus 1.8.2, installed on may 9th and thus predating my issues |
| 14:49.45 | Papierkorb | I guess a KDE downgrade is the only thing that will help |
| 14:50.31 | rndbit | Papierkorb using 4.13.1? |
| 14:50.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | just reads http://lwn.net/Articles/580194/ and stumbles over Lennart Poettering *again* |
| 14:50.54 | Papierkorb | rndbit: 4.13.0, latest on arch |
| 14:51.18 | rndbit | mm. i run same version, on mint though |
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| 14:55.08 | Guest66556 | WILD POTTERING APPEARS |
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| 14:55.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | summons GKH |
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| 14:57.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>He is optimistic that this will work out; having Greg Kroah-Hartman involved in the process helps with his confidence there.<< mine too :-D |
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| 15:38.40 | rndbit | on new lockup i tested gtk app - file dialog opened instantly while kde file dialog is yet to open |
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| 15:39.05 | rndbit | lets the irc logs be monument of his pains |
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| 15:39.49 | rndbit | now i see "Open Form", all nice and blank, no controls, and mouse cursor is spinning as its loading |
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| 15:40.28 | rndbit | oo error: Could not start process Cannot talk to klauncher: The name org.kde.klauncher was not provided by any .service files. |
| 15:40.41 | Papierkorb | reinstall KDE? |
| 15:41.41 | rndbit | hmm, worth a try i guess.. but problem appeared as soon as i installed it this time |
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| 16:06.05 | lineinthesand | Is it possible to start two instances of a program which normally switches to the already opened instance upon attempting to open a second? (audex) |
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| 16:10.07 | rdieter | lineinthesand: depends on the app, afaict audex does not support > 1 instance |
| 16:10.38 | lineinthesand | rdieter, OK, thanks! |
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| 16:14.21 | Feas | Hi! Does anyone know how should I set up Desktop Grid mode? I would like to see all my running applications when I hit the default ctrl+F8 |
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| 16:14.44 | Feas | If I do it know, it only shows my top application |
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| 16:46.53 | Third3ye | Hey |
| 16:47.03 | Third3ye | Does KDE use QML as it's config file backend? |
| 16:48.18 | Third3ye | For dimensions, plasmoid listings, configurations, that sort of thing... |
| 16:48.18 | Third3ye | and user settings, for that matter... |
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| 16:48.55 | rindolf | Third3ye: no, it uses INI-style files. |
| 16:49.05 | rindolf | Third3ye: most stuff is under ~/.kde4/ |
| 16:49.17 | rindolf | Or ~/.kde in some cases. |
| 16:49.32 | Third3ye | Cool - thanks |
| 16:50.18 | Third3ye | rindolf: ini-style...? I'm gonna kick my self if I don't ask this, but is there any deviation from what you consider original INI format? |
| 16:50.41 | rindolf | Third3ye: there are lots of variations on INI-style. |
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| 16:50.54 | Third3ye | rindolf: in KDE, mind you... |
| 16:51.09 | Third3ye | rindolf: could you point me to the INI specs for KDE perhaps? ^^; |
| 16:51.22 | rindolf | Third3ye: I don't know what they are offhand. |
| 16:51.25 | Papierkorb | [Category] Key=Value |
| 16:51.48 | Papierkorb | What's KDE doing differently? |
| 16:51.56 | Third3ye | I dunno, I |
| 16:52.01 | Third3ye | I'm just asking |
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| 17:26.58 | Safa_[A_boy] | Hello, I plugged in my externel monitor to the laptop and set it to the right of the laptop screen (I'm using KDE). I unplug the cable when I finished my work with it. Now, when the mouse reaches the right corner of the screen it don't stop and continue going! |
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| 17:29.36 | PasNox | does yakuake is officially part of kde ? |
| 17:29.50 | Sho_ | Yakuake is a KDE project, yes |
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| 17:29.57 | PasNox | I installed kde4 via macport on mac os x, and i'm lacking yakuake and can't find it. |
| 17:30.14 | PasNox | Sho_: does it's OFFICIAL KDE application i mean, released by the kde project ? |
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| 17:31.05 | khonkhortisan | We could call it kyakuake to make it fit in better |
| 17:31.17 | PasNox | xD |
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| 17:33.08 | xanax` | it's possible to install KDE on OSX ? oO |
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| 17:34.12 | PasNox | xanax`: yeah of course :) |
| 17:34.19 | PasNox | via macport |
| 17:34.33 | xanax` | googles "macport" |
| 17:34.33 | PasNox | even akonadi / kpim / kontact is working recently :) |
| 17:34.45 | xanax` | PasNox: is it stable? fast? |
| 17:34.53 | rdieter | PasNox: depends what you mean by "OFFICIAL KDE appliaction" exactly. Its not part of http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.13/ release for example, but it is hosted on kde infrastructure |
| 17:35.14 | PasNox | rdieter: official as source is part of kde sources release |
| 17:35.21 | PasNox | so mac port can integrate it easier |
| 17:35.25 | rdieter | PasNox: then, no. |
| 17:35.42 | rdieter | it is released separately |
| 17:35.47 | PasNox | xanax`: looks quite fine. You will have to make some service working by hand (akonadi) |
| 17:35.57 | PasNox | rdieter: ok |
| 17:36.01 | PasNox | i will try to build it |
| 17:36.23 | rdieter | PasNox: http://download.kde.org/stable/yakuake |
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| 17:37.39 | PasNox | rdieter: thanks . any hint of the command line to use to build it ? |
| 17:37.45 | Sho_ | PasNox: Yes, Yakuake is released by KDE |
| 17:37.48 | PasNox | i can never remember the kde-config call to use |
| 17:37.56 | Sho_ | (by me, in fact) |
| 17:37.58 | PasNox | Sho_: well, looks not |
| 17:38.06 | PasNox | Sho_: ah, since which version ? |
| 17:38.18 | Sho_ | PasNox: Since 1.x something |
| 17:38.27 | rdieter | PasNox: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE_Applications , should help |
| 17:38.30 | Sho_ | or since 2006, if you prefer dates |
| 17:38.32 | PasNox | Sho_: any hint on why i do not have it in my macport kde ? |
| 17:38.40 | PasNox | Sho_: hm |
| 17:38.43 | Sho_ | PasNox: Because MacPorts hasn't packaged it I would presume |
| 17:38.44 | PasNox | rdieter: thanks |
| 17:38.46 | lainlives | PasNox: ask the packager |
| 17:38.56 | PasNox | lainlives: i will, thanks ! |
| 17:39.03 | Sho_ | PasNox: Also because you're asking the wrong question and I'm being obnoxious instead of educating you |
| 17:39.24 | Sho_ | PasNox: What you actually mean is "Is Yakuake part of a KDE SC module?" to which the answer is "No" |
| 17:39.34 | Sho_ | PasNox: It's an Extragear app, much like, say, Amarok |
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| 17:40.00 | BluesKaj | Sho_, seems to be a lot of that going around...visit ##linux one of these days, you won't be alone ") |
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| 17:41.41 | PasNox | Sho_: ok thanks. and i was not knowing the sources package were also called KDE SC. but it make sense. |
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| 17:43.31 | FernandoBasso | Is it possible to have multiple accounts in kopete? |
| 17:43.50 | Sho_ | Yes |
| 17:45.08 | FernandoBasso | I can't find where to add more accounts... |
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| 17:53.40 | PasNox | yakuake built perfectly, but it also perfectly crash at runtime ;) |
| 17:53.56 | PasNox | it may be why it's not packaged |
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| 17:56.44 | Sho_ | PasNox: backtrace? |
| 17:58.19 | PasNox | Sho_: http://paste.kde.org/pr3vagtf9 |
| 17:59.10 | Sho_ | PasNox: it's crashing in kdelibs code for getting the screen/work area dimensions, which it needs to position itself |
| 17:59.20 | PasNox | Sho_: yep |
| 17:59.31 | Sho_ | that kdelibs class probably has an incomplete backend for os x' windowing system |
| 17:59.44 | PasNox | it is possible |
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| 19:34.37 | freinhard | hi! |
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| 19:48.13 | Aiena | Hi I was just helping my freind migrate to suse KDE |
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| 19:48.41 | Aiena | he has this very very peculiar problem in which the screen is black and only bits under the mouse cursor are refreshed |
| 19:48.45 | Aiena | ANy ideas ? |
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| 19:50.45 | pedahzur | KDE SC 4.13. I have contacts in KAddressbook. When I start typing them in the KMail "To" field, they are not showing up. Any idea what I might need to tweak to get this to work? |
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| 19:58.00 | silver_hook | pedahzur: Nepomuk’s Akonadi resource is not working. |
| 19:58.58 | Papierkorb | Let's see hope a KDE downgrade helps. 4.13.0 depends on baloo .. well, got rid of that. |
| 19:59.39 | silver_hook | pedahzur: At last that’s why it doesn’t work for me. |
| 19:59.50 | thiago | the nepomuk agent is not supposed to be working |
| 19:59.56 | thiago | there's no nepomuk anymore in 4.13 |
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| 20:04.58 | Crendgrim | I got the Plasma Next snapshot running.. very nice. |
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| 20:15.43 | Papierkorb | Am I really the only one where KDE4.13 refuses to be useful DE by not being able to start Qt applications? |
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| 20:18.59 | rose32 | Does anyone knows how can I avoid that a certain user of kde can't execute a kde (e.g. konsole, dolphin...). I have read about the kiosk mode of KDE, but I haven't found how to block an application. Anyone knows how to do it? |
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| 20:23.41 | MikOo | hello |
| 20:25.35 | Crendgrim | Hm, the new menu doesn't differentiate between categories and programs.. that is bad. |
| 20:25.48 | MikOo | linenotes don't autoresize in okular... it's pitty I like this reader |
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| 20:27.50 | MikOo | but I have 4.8.4 ... (Debian package) |
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| 20:29.16 | MikOo | I don't search in bugtracker for that. |
| 20:30.40 | rose32 | anyone has some experience with kiosk mode in KDE? |
| 20:30.56 | DaZ | kde has kiosk mode? :v |
| 20:31.27 | rose32 | DaZ: yes |
| 20:31.37 | rose32 | DaZ: techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Introduction |
| 20:32.39 | DaZ | interesting |
| 20:32.57 | rose32 | DaZ: however I don't know how to disable a particular application |
| 20:33.53 | DaZ | and i take it that you can't just uninstall it? :v |
| 20:34.57 | rose32 | DaZ: it's not easy because you have a lot of application that are part of the same package |
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| 22:42.49 | houms_ | i am trying to get pointed in the right direction to troubleshoot issue with plasma-nm not autoconnecting wifi any more. how can i diagnose this issue? it sees the wifi access points fine and connects fine if i manually tell it connect. but on bootup for example it does not connect. |
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| 22:52.45 | Quantum` | Anyone know why X forwarded apps don't take on the right colors? |
| 22:54.54 | Quantum` | (GTK apps, that is. K apps do have the right colors) |
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| 22:55.04 | scummos | then why do you ask in #kde ;) |
| 22:55.20 | Quantum` | Is there a #gtk? |
| 22:55.24 | scummos | don't know |
| 22:55.38 | scummos | not even that I know about gtk ;) |
| 22:56.01 | Quantum` | The correct answer is: It's practically vacant. |
| 22:57.01 | Sho_ | Quantum`: The Gnome folks have their IRC channels on OFTC |
| 22:57.33 | Quantum` | Sho_: Thanks. OFTC is more secure anyway. |
| 22:57.38 | scummos | "secure"? |
| 22:58.18 | Quantum` | Yes, you don't have to jump through hoops to TOR. |
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| 22:59.06 | Sho_ | Quantum`: I read once that tomatoes were originally mostly green, before the red ones were cultivated for aesthetic reasons |
| 22:59.15 | Sho_ | (I assume we're sharing random unrelated facts) |
| 23:00.39 | Quantum` | Well if we were... we should also mind our speling. |
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