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| 06:18.04 | q93 | running petra for a few weeks with NO problems..... rampaging cats across keyboard and NOW the virtual desktop indicators across the top of the screen are more than double in size and when opening a program it shows in the far left and OFF screen.....how can I fix this?? |
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| 06:22.20 | q93 | on moving between virtual desktops, the rendering is offset by about half for 3 seconds or so and then looks normal....further, the process is Very Slow..... how can i correct this? |
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| 06:30.34 | valorie | q93 have you run kscreen? |
| 06:30.56 | valorie | I guess it depends on how new your KDE sc version is |
| 06:31.32 | valorie | before 4.12 I think you had to use xrandr |
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| 07:01.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I again have a zombie widget in plasmabar_____vvv-(here) http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/19/plasma-desktopw31889.png - I can't even find out what it been (yeah, I forgot what widget I added there yesterday). I know a restart might fix this, but my question: which is the *rc file(?) where I could look up the name of that widget? |
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| 07:02.21 | Sho_ | it's not the in the rc file |
| 07:02.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh hi Sho_! :-d |
| 07:02.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 07:02.46 | Sho_ | yo |
| 07:03.01 | Sho_ | DocScrutinizer05: it's a drop target panel spacer from a dnd operation |
| 07:03.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 07:04.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | so, a spacer? |
| 07:04.24 | Sho_ | i'm not actually sure if it's an instance of the spacer, but probably, yeah |
| 07:04.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't act like a spacer |
| 07:04.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's simply dead |
| 07:04.47 | Sho_ | yup |
| 07:04.51 | Sho_ | when you drag things within or onto a panel the panel visualizes the drop location like that |
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| 07:04.58 | Sho_ | sometimes they get stuck |
| 07:05.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, so let me restart that plasma thing. Could you help me out with the magic incantation? (prolly should create a hotkey for that) |
| 07:06.22 | Sho_ | DocScrutinizer05: kquitapp plasma-desktop |
| 07:06.25 | Sho_ | then plasma-desktop |
| 07:06.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks! :) |
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| 07:08.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang, the 'kquitapp plasma-desktop; sleep 3; plasma-desktop' doesn't return |
| 07:09.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | yup, gone |
| 07:09.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | I added the Cups widget recently |
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| 07:11.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | and now RMB menu for plasmabar doesn't show up above (righthand) clock when I RMB into left half of plasmabar ;-) |
| 07:12.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | (might give a hint what's been wrong with that zombie spacer) |
| 07:13.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | clicking RMB into the true spacer left of zombie opened context menu above right end of plasmabar (where the clock usually sits) |
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| 07:13.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | while clicking right of the zombie opened context menu above mouse pointer as supposed to be |
| 07:14.34 | Sho_ | i talked with one of the responsible devs once, he says it's a bug in qgraphicslayout and unsolvable |
| 07:14.49 | Sho_ | i am skeptical of that, but i also don't have the time to dig myself into the problem |
| 07:15.05 | Sho_ | and of course exactly zero of that code still exists in plasma next, so .. |
| 07:15.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:15.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | filter rule, like: user-context-menu "add to filter rule->" "<list of filter rules>". The latter would augment/replace the "ignore user" menu entry |
| 07:15.52 | Sho_ | yeah, there's a wishlist item for dynamic filters |
| 07:15.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
| 07:16.00 | Sho_ | i agree it'd be nice to have, but it's also not trivial |
| 07:16.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | yup, prolly |
| 07:16.45 | Sho_ | it's more something to consider for the next time when completely rewriting the text display |
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| 07:19.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sho_: kate comes to mind, with its folding in/out of syntactical elements like for () {....} |
| 07:20.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | could Qt actaully allow to import the whole thing and just rewrite the syntax parser a bit? |
| 07:21.35 | Sho_ | not easily, no |
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| 07:22.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | would've been too easy ;) |
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| 07:45.29 | TomyWork | hi |
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| 07:46.55 | TomyWork | in kde 4.11, can i somehow get the size of the pinned launchers ("Show A Launcher When Not Running") back up to the previous size? no matter how big i make the panel, the pinned launchers stay tiny |
| 07:47.07 | Sho_ | nope, sorry |
| 07:47.12 | Sho_ | (my fault) |
| 07:47.50 | TomyWork | or is that fixed in 4.13 maybe? |
| 07:48.58 | Sho_ | TomyWork: Nope |
| 07:51.44 | TomyWork | is there a patch? :) |
| 07:51.50 | Sho_ | TomyWork: Nope |
| 07:51.54 | TomyWork | meh |
| 07:52.13 | Sho_ | if you need a specific size I can write you one, though |
| 07:52.37 | TomyWork | hmm just tell me where to look :) |
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| 07:53.16 | Sho_ | TomyWork: find org.kde.plasma.tasks/contents/code/layout.js on your system |
| 07:54.32 | TomyWork | got it... man there's a lot of math and it still doesnt adjust |
| 07:56.58 | TomyWork | ok, what do i need to kill in order to apply the settings? :) |
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| 07:58.50 | Sho_ | "apply the settings"? |
| 08:00.16 | TomyWork | well to make plasma re-read my settings for that widget |
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| 08:12.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | what the...? I tried to sort all my taskbar buttons again after restrating plasma-desktop, and I obviously pulled the "System Settings" window button a tad too far to the right, hich turned it into a tiny square icon that can't get rearranged now and sticks to the right end of taskbar http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/19/plasma-desktopg26588.png |
| 08:13.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't want that thing, how do I get rid of it? |
| 08:13.38 | Sho_ | TomyWork: it's not a setting but code, so you need to either restart plasma or re-add the applet |
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| 08:15.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, removed it via "Panel Settings" |
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| 09:34.10 | AciD` | hi |
| 09:34.28 | AciD` | is it possible to crop in batch in gwenview ? |
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| 10:39.51 | TomyWork | Sho_ back from a meeting... what i tried was to set the width of the launchers from small to large. now there are gaps, so i guess there is something intermediate... i'll try medium |
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| 10:40.44 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
| 10:46.06 | TomyWork | Sho_ hmm there is mediumIconSize, but that's still a notch too big... what's between theme.{small,medium}IconSize? |
| 10:50.14 | Sho_ | TomyWork: there's a smallMedium iirc |
| 10:50.24 | Sho_ | or mediumSmall |
| 10:50.26 | Sho_ | one of those ;) |
| 10:50.37 | Sho_ | is mentally all in Plasma Next land, and we changed that API a bit |
| 10:50.48 | TomyWork | i'll let googlefight decide :) |
| 10:51.15 | Sho_ | TomyWork: google for kde: http://lxr.kde.org/search |
| 10:51.20 | Sho_ | (roughly ;) |
| 10:51.32 | Sho_ | more specifically http://lxr.kde.org/search?v=stable-qt4&_string=&_advanced=&_filestring=&_casesensitive= for kde4 stuff |
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| 10:51.37 | TomyWork | http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=kde+mediumSmallIconSize&word2=kde+smallMediumIconSize |
| 10:51.44 | TomyWork | googlefight is unanimous |
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| 10:52.06 | Sho_ | it's kind of a stupid name |
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| 10:53.06 | Sho_ | TomyWork: reminds me of http://www.addedbytes.com/blog/if-php-were-british/, maybe we should have named it fabulousIconSize |
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| 10:58.10 | TomyWork | haha |
| 10:58.36 | TomyWork | so, how do i restart plasma without a relogin? |
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| 11:09.16 | phalrax | Is it true that this is the next KDE default theme? https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/boards/g/img/0418/83/1399951135684.png |
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| 11:19.30 | TomyWork | kwin |
| 11:19.30 | TomyWork | oops |
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| 11:38.58 | Sho_ | TomyWork: kquitapp plasma-desktop, then plasma-desktop |
| 11:39.16 | Sho_ | phalrax: it's a screenshot of the current wip state, yes |
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| 11:41.55 | TomyWork | kquitapp? uh i just used kill :) |
| 11:42.10 | Sho_ | TomyWork: how rude! |
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| 11:45.18 | TomyWork | Sho_ well plasma-desktop can handle TERM if it cares :) |
| 11:45.38 | Sho_ | TomyWork: but our overdesigned d-bus crap is obviously better |
| 11:45.43 | moviuro_ | is interested in the work of kquitapp |
| 11:45.52 | Sho_ | just hinted how it works :) |
| 11:46.00 | Sho_ | it does a d-bus call to the quit method |
| 11:46.18 | moviuro_ | does it have services exit properly? |
| 11:47.02 | Sho_ | moviuro_: services? |
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| 11:47.56 | moviuro_ | anything that links plasma to any other application: like, how does plasma know how many unread mail I have? Is this link severed or properly cut when I quit plasma? |
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| 11:50.25 | svuorela | with kquitapp everything should be properly cut. |
| 11:50.42 | svuorela | with kill or at crash time, most things should handle it gracefully. |
| 11:51.05 | moviuro_ | is there a KDE command to reboot? So that it makes all applications close before rebooting the machine? |
| 11:51.18 | Sho_ | yes |
| 11:51.22 | svuorela | use the menu thing. |
| 11:51.24 | Sho_ | the d-bus api of ksmserver |
| 11:51.38 | moviuro_ | svuorela: I don't have any menu on my KDE. Just krunner & milou |
| 11:51.58 | moviuro_ | (clicking is exhausting) |
| 11:52.10 | svuorela | moviuro_: then you need some dbus magic on ksmserver |
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| 12:09.02 | TomyWork | Sho_ it looks fine now, thanks :) |
| 12:09.10 | Sho_ | cool |
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| 12:20.16 | TomyWork | Sho_ http://paste.kde.org/purbjlm6o since i'll have to do this again every update, i made a small script to patch the change in |
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| 12:22.12 | TomyWork | you could put attach that to the bug report as a workaround if there is one |
| 12:24.03 | TomyWork | hmm this doesnt work yet... what |
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| 12:24.33 | TomyWork | oh, has to be sed -r |
| 12:26.17 | phalrax | Sho_: wip state? However, looks good |
| 12:27.05 | Sho_ | phalrax: wip = work in progress |
| 12:27.08 | TomyWork | Sho_ this one works: http://paste.kde.org/rev/purbjlm6o |
| 12:27.33 | TomyWork | sorry, http://paste.kde.org/posylvxgd |
| 12:27.58 | phalrax | Sho_: Ah, I see. Is this going to be in 4.13? |
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| 12:28.58 | Sho_ | phalrax: No, in Plasma Next |
| 12:29.04 | Sho_ | (4.13 is already out, btw) |
| 12:30.30 | phalrax | Sho_: Oh, is there an ETA? |
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| 12:33.07 | Sho_ | phalrax: the first stable release is currently scheduled for early July |
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| 12:33.48 | Sho_ | phalrax: most of what you see on that screenshot there is new code (well, except for dolphin) |
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| 12:35.09 | phalrax | Sho_: I see, looking forward! |
| 12:37.14 | markit | kubuntu 12.04, kde (backport) 4.13.0. In dolphin I want to do a simple filename search, but it gave me "invalid protocol", then I installed "baloo" package and now does not give me the error but does not find files either. I would love to avoid all that "semantic / indexing" stuff and be able to do a plain filename search |
| 12:37.28 | markit | any tip? |
| 12:37.29 | Sho_ | use kfind |
| 12:37.46 | markit | Sho_: I know, but is not as convenient as dolphin ^F |
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| 12:55.26 | NTesl0 | aspell bobmarly |
| 12:55.58 | NTesl0 | aspell bobmarly |
| 12:56.10 | NTesl0 | ops lol |
| 12:57.03 | NTesl0 | close |
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| 13:31.51 | hardik_ | plz help me with this CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND. |
| 13:31.52 | hardik_ | Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files: |
| 13:31.52 | hardik_ | QT_QT_INCLUDE_DIR |
| 13:31.52 | hardik_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.52 | hardik_ | CMake Error: Internal CMake error, TryCompile configure of cmake failed |
| 13:31.53 | hardik_ | CMake Error at /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake:1311 (message): |
| 13:31.54 | hardik_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.56 | hardik_ | Call Stack (most recent call first): |
| 13:31.58 | hardik_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:32.00 | hardik_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:34.52 | markit | found a solution. If you set baloo to ignore /home, it uses "old" filesearch that works fine :) |
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| 13:44.21 | hardik_ | markit: thanks |
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| 13:56.52 | markit | hardik_: ehm, found a solution to MY problem |
| 13:57.40 | markit | hardik_: in addition, you'd better ask those kind of questions in a '-dev' channel |
| 13:57.41 | hardik_ | no i have problem with building artikulate. |
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| 13:58.07 | markit | I think #kde-dev is the right place |
| 13:58.15 | hardik_ | ok thanks |
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| 13:58.21 | markit | ops, #kde-devel |
| 14:00.03 | hardik_ | vijay13: send me link for error post in tha irc |
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| 14:36.45 | Linuxica | hi |
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| 14:37.46 | Linuxica | i've installed simple-scan and the right mouse bottom has stopped to work , any help? |
| 14:38.22 | freakynl | Hi, anyone using krdc with a recent/git version of freerdp? I've never seen it working, only get a blue screen when trying to connect (not a windows bsod, where the remote session is supposed to be shown it's just blue) |
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| 14:41.11 | Shaan7 | freakynl: well I have 4.13.0 of KRDC, and it works, if that satisfies your definition of recent |
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| 14:42.19 | Linuxica | bye |
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| 14:47.22 | freakynl | Shaan7: I have 4.13.1 and I'm sure it will (probably) work with some ancient stable freerdp release (with which a lot of other stuff probably doesn't work :)). Any idea of your freerdp version? |
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| 14:48.34 | Shaan7 | freakynl: apt says 1.0.2-2ubuntu1 |
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| 15:10.22 | Linuxica | Hi |
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| 15:13.35 | Linuxica | I've a problem with my mouse, the right buttom doesn't work properly. |
| 15:14.27 | Linuxica | how can I recover the mouse functions? |
| 15:14.41 | Linuxica | without mouse... |
| 15:15.37 | Walex | Linuxica: sure the button is not broken? They break fairly often on cheap mice. |
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| 15:15.55 | Walex | Linuxica: you can use 'xev' to check. |
| 15:16.05 | Linuxica | i've intalled simple-scan and the buttom stopped working |
| 15:16.49 | Linuxica | then I flipped functions of the right to the left buttom and now... |
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| 15:17.54 | Linuxica | sorry my English is too bad, I know |
| 15:20.25 | Linuxica | i've uninstalled simple-scan but it doesn't work, I need to know how to fix it from a terminal |
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| 15:26.07 | Linuxica | Bye |
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| 15:38.46 | hyper_ch | hmmm, something is totally wrong on my computer -- |
| 15:38.48 | hyper_ch | just copying a few GB of files onto a usb 3.0 stick takes like forever and load average spikes to 4.0 |
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| 15:38.56 | hyper_ch | what could be the reason? |
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| 15:57.33 | freakynl | Shaan7: thanks, that's rather old :). |
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| 15:57.47 | freakynl | hyper_ch: shitty XHCI drivers, if you have USB 2.0 ports see if they work better |
| 15:58.19 | freakynl | hyper_ch: also check if dmesg h |
| 15:58.21 | hyper_ch | freakynl: my problem is, xhci doesn't even seem to be loaded |
| 15:58.25 | hyper_ch | hyper@subi:~$ sudo modprobe xhci-hcd ; lsmod | grep xhci |
| 15:58.26 | hyper_ch | hyper@subi:~$ |
| 15:58.29 | freakynl | shows something useful |
| 15:58.51 | freakynl | I don't know your distro - my xhci drivers are compiled in (but I build own kernels) |
| 15:59.08 | hyper_ch | if they weren't compiled, the modprobe would give an error |
| 15:59.17 | hyper_ch | but as you can see, modprobe didn't complain |
| 15:59.23 | hyper_ch | BUT lsmod didn't list them |
| 15:59.24 | freakynl | still might want to check USB 2.0 ports - XHCI was rather crappy here until recent updates - not sure which ones tho' on 3.14.4 currently |
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| 15:59.48 | hyper_ch | 3.13.0- |
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| 16:00.07 | freakynl | still not what I'd expect but that might be stick, don't notice much difference between 2.0 and 3.0 now |
| 16:00.31 | hyper_ch | it used to be better on kubuntu 13.10 |
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| 16:01.11 | freakynl | can't get 3.14 from somewhere? Ubuntu has live test kernels somewhere iirc |
| 16:01.41 | freakynl | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds |
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| 16:02.08 | freakynl | gotta run hope it helps |
| 16:02.52 | hyper_ch | thx |
| 16:03.00 | hyper_ch | no 3.14 but 3.15 |
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| 20:38.05 | Toast | Could someone tell me where kmail stores it's list of identities please. Some how it now has too many do delete by hand in the dialogue box. |
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| 20:46.11 | thiago | Toast: how have more than 10 identities? |
| 20:46.37 | thiago | Toast: ~/.kde/share/config/emailidentities |
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| 20:47.06 | Toast | thiago: thousands of them. I found the file storing them (yes, that one, thanks) and am now trying to perform surgary. |
| 20:47.57 | Toast | I don't know why I persist with kmail. I keep thinking the next version will be useable... the next ... next... sigh. |
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| 20:49.49 | thiago | Toast: how do you have thousands of identities? |
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| 20:51.38 | Toast | I had a few identities appear after importing setting which I had exported from my previous install. From a bug report I've read the list doubles every time you delete an unknown identity. |
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| 20:52.40 | Toast | thiago: My identities files has gone down from 328.3KiB to 2.1KiB after deleting the unknowns. |
| 20:53.21 | Toast | And my list in kmail is fixed :) |
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| 22:37.20 | mordocai | Hey! I'm on debian jessie with KDE 4.12.4 and I have a small issue. When I remove my laptop from its dock and reconnect I would like to not have to re-do the display settings. Is there a way to get KDE to remember two different display settings and toggle between them with a hotkey or something similar? |
| 22:41.39 | scummos | mordocai: in theory, KScreen should do exactly that: reconfigure the screen(s) to their last configuration when you attach / detach a screen |
| 22:41.45 | scummos | don't know why it doesn't work for you |
| 22:42.02 | scummos | try: qdbus org.kde.kded /kded org.kde.kded.loadModule kscreen |
| 22:45.00 | mordocai | scummos: It said true |
| 22:45.07 | scummos | does it work now? ;) |
| 22:45.15 | mordocai | I'll try, one second |
| 22:46.05 | scummos | there should be a control module similar to this one: http://i.imgur.com/q8J4X6t.png |
| 22:46.08 | scummos | not the one with the green rectangles |
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| 22:46.46 | mordocai | Nope, didn't work. It has turn off the one the main laptop screen to get it to work and i'm guessing it doesn't want to do that. And yeah, I get a screen like that. It is the one i've been using |
| 22:46.59 | mordocai | turn off the main laptop screen* |
| 22:48.18 | mordocai | Trying it in xrandr I have to turn off the laptop screen then in a second command do the other settings. That is probably the issue |
| 22:48.34 | scummos | mordocai: ok, too bad ... sorry I can't help you further |
| 22:48.40 | scummos | report a bug to https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=KScreen&format=guided describing your issue |
| 22:49.36 | scummos | yeah, of course it's also possible it's a driver bug or something ;) |
| 22:52.52 | mordocai | scummos: This is what I had to do. Made a keyboard shortcut for now: xrandr --output LVDS-0 --off --output DP-1 --off; sleep 1; xrandr --output DP-1 --auto --right-of DP-2 --output DP-2 --auto |
| 22:53.16 | scummos | yep, better than nothing I guess |
| 22:53.16 | mordocai | I'll look into it more tommorrow and possibly file a bug, but my ride is here so i have to go |
| 22:53.33 | scummos | but kscreen is intended to save you from exactly that hassle and also adjust the configuration automatically ... |
| 22:53.35 | scummos | but oh well ;) |
| 22:53.44 | scummos | bye |
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| 23:29.15 | Uradamus | Hi, I've got an old hdd that is starting to fail, it is mostly just games so it isn't a big deal, particularly since most are Steam games, but I am trying to save what I can anyhow. I am running into an issue though while moving files to another hdd with Dolphin, basically when it hits a corrupt file it will hang for like 5 minutes while it keeps trying to continue with the copy before finally asking me what to do. Can I adjust when th |
| 23:29.17 | Uradamus | e time out finally happens? |
| 23:31.29 | Uradamus | I'd rather it be something like 30 seconds instead of several minutes. |
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