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00:24.51 | NoirSoldats | Where would I put a command that I need to run when KDE/X starts? |
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00:50.21 | CrypticByte | how do i get kde4 to stop remembering my session. It slows down my computer when its booting up |
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01:03.11 | doomikus | Where can you configure wake on lan for a NIC in KDE? I tried editing /etc/network/interfaces only to find it not working and used the GUI applet to configure. After config, nothing in interfaces the way debian would have had entries. Now I'd like to figure out a way to add the lines that ethtool entries used to take care of |
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03:43.14 | third3ye | Is there such a thing as super-user-command-options? |
03:43.29 | third3ye | I want kdesu to use sudo, but not only that: but to use sudo -E |
03:43.44 | third3ye | (preserves environment, i.e themes, in this distros case networking, etc) |
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03:50.46 | valorie | third3ye: man kdesudo doesn't show that option |
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04:36.48 | jahd | hi all |
04:37.57 | jahd | how can I config a shortcut to choose a window in the taskbar? I mean, like in firefox (alt+1, alt+2, etc) I want to select windows with Meta+1, Meta+2... |
04:38.30 | jahd | Kde shortcuts are preety customizables, but I can't find that option |
04:39.50 | jahd | do you know where can I find it, please? |
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04:56.38 | jahd | do you think it can be possible? |
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05:06.32 | weedmic | how do I tell kde4 to open new programmes in the middle of the screen? |
05:07.16 | valorie | jahd: http://userbase.kde.org/System_Settings/Shortcuts_and_Gestures |
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05:11.15 | thiago | weedmic: where do they open now? |
05:14.04 | jahd | valorie: yes, i know how to change the sortcuts, but I want to find the shortcut of "Select 1st window" and "Select 2nd window" and so on, so I can bind them to Meta+1, Meta+2... |
05:14.20 | jahd | there are many sections (kwin, plasma, etc) and I can't find that |
05:15.07 | valorie | that I don't know |
05:15.38 | valorie | jahd: you might ask in #plasma |
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05:15.55 | valorie | if they don't know, they can direct you elsewhere |
05:16.37 | jahd | ok thanks :D |
05:16.43 | jahd | valorie: thanks :D |
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05:20.11 | valorie | yw |
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05:35.14 | weedmic | jahd: by " |
05:35.37 | weedmic | window", do you mean screen - like you have 4 screens and want to name each and then go to them with a shortcut? |
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08:50.04 | robotdevil | so what exactly does the opengl 3.1 setting do? |
08:50.20 | robotdevil | and if I only have 3.0 installed |
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08:53.15 | Sho_ | robotdevil: mostly different shaders that use some more optimization tricks |
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08:58.20 | robotdevil | but what about the 3.1 and 3.0 difference? |
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09:05.17 | Kalidarn | hmm |
09:05.29 | Kalidarn | i seem to be getting this: Before syncing folder "Calendar" it is necessary to have the resource online. Do you want to make it online? |
09:05.38 | Kalidarn | when i click "Go Online" nothing happens |
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09:05.53 | Kalidarn | any of my CalDavs dont seem to be working |
09:06.06 | Kalidarn | it did work at some point though |
09:06.17 | Kalidarn | because i saw a lot of overdue things on my task list (because it didn't remove them) |
09:06.45 | Kalidarn | ive tried restarting akonadi too but hasn't helped |
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09:11.30 | Kalidarn | hmm maybe i configured it wrong |
09:12.19 | Kalidarn | seems to be working much better now i've selected Zimbra instead of manually adding the paths |
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09:14.30 | robotdevil | what is the eye candy setting that instead of sliding between windows (not desktops) but blows them outward and shuffles through them? |
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09:15.11 | hateball | robotdevil: exposé ? |
09:15.22 | hateball | well that's not the name, its... |
09:15.26 | hateball | checks bindings |
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09:16.24 | hateball | robotdevil: could it be "show desktop grid" ? |
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09:16.45 | hateball | I have it configured under global hotkeys -> kwin -> show desktop grid |
09:16.52 | hateball | (translated from swedish, so...) |
09:17.09 | hateball | nm, I'm an idiot |
09:18.10 | robotdevil | thats similar to showing all your workspaces(?) on an android and I forgot about that so thank you |
09:18.18 | robotdevil | but thats not it |
09:19.02 | robotdevil | its sort of like windows cascade but horizontal instead of diagonal |
09:19.07 | hateball | robotdevil: It's probably... alt+f2 -> edges -> show windows |
09:19.16 | hateball | I dunno |
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09:19.35 | hateball | I have a "hot corner" for showing all windows in a "grid" |
09:19.43 | robotdevil | its a function performed by alt tab |
09:19.52 | robotdevil | but not slide |
09:19.57 | hateball | aaaaaaah |
09:20.23 | hateball | robotdevil: alt+f2 -> "tab" |
09:20.29 | hateball | you can customize the behavior there |
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09:20.36 | hateball | activiy switching ? |
09:20.50 | hateball | not running english locale, so |
09:20.52 | robotdevil | window focus |
09:21.05 | robotdevil | window switching |
09:21.19 | robotdevil | oh sorry one sec |
09:21.50 | robotdevil | nope |
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09:23.18 | robotdevil | ah flip switch I think |
09:24.48 | hateball | robotdevil: /usr/bin/kcmshell4 kwintabbox |
09:24.55 | hateball | is where I was looking |
09:25.00 | robotdevil | do I have to logout to set? |
09:25.24 | robotdevil | or do I have to guess which other one is disabling it? |
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09:25.35 | hateball | I think it should take effect right away, but might be some settings need a restart of plasma |
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09:27.23 | robotdevil | what is the diffence of present windows and desktop grid, they have different bindings but appear to do same thing |
09:28.02 | Sho_ | one desktop vs. all desktops |
09:28.16 | robotdevil | ahhh |
09:28.27 | robotdevil | yes one has a +- |
09:29.35 | Jucato | desktop grid shows your virtual desktops in a grid layout, where you can add/remove virtual desktops. present windows is all about showing your windows, though you can have them be shown per desktop or show all windows on all desktops |
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09:31.42 | robotdevil | brb |
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09:34.06 | robotdevil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwiD5dILDb4 |
09:34.10 | robotdevil | like this |
09:35.01 | robotdevil | oh theres no goddamn key binding |
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09:36.41 | robotdevil | how to disable "walk through windows" |
09:37.31 | Walex | robotdevil: remove the bindings? |
09:37.41 | Jucato | if you want that effect, you can just choose it as your default "walk through windows" effect |
09:38.08 | Jucato | Alt+Tab has several effects available, like the Tab Box, Cover Switch, and that Flip Switch |
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09:39.53 | Jucato | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/17/plasma-desktopHy1461.png |
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09:41.54 | robotdevil | so I have to have it enabled in the all effects as well? |
09:43.56 | Jucato | it will do that automatically if you select Flip Switch |
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09:46.53 | robotdevil | http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=8qjvgswznj2v7alikj9z.png |
09:47.33 | robotdevil | oh I c |
09:47.40 | robotdevil | thats a toggle |
09:47.46 | robotdevil | jeepers |
09:48.31 | robotdevil | wish defaults only worked for current screen |
09:49.28 | robotdevil | s/screen/section |
09:50.39 | robotdevil | yay cover switch, thank you (all) |
09:51.45 | robotdevil | trys to remember what was doing before |
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09:53.46 | robotdevil | oh what does the super key control by default, I know it kinda depends on what your distro does but if I set it instead of alt f1, what would it most likely break |
09:54.09 | robotdevil | i was reading but many say not to set it like that |
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09:58.30 | robotdevil | If I hadnt run into yet was thinking I probably wouldnt miss it |
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10:05.30 | robotdevil | Is there any special requirement for vsync? I still get tearing. I am looking on building a xorg that will help nouveau, but until then, I am still getting tearing with it set |
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10:09.23 | leszek | robotdevil: and you tried the various different tearing methods in kwin ? Normally kwin is good in detecting the appropiate tearing prevention automatically. But I guess the nouveau driver is just bad which causes this |
10:10.15 | mgraesslin | robotdevil: we recommend to use the NVIDIA driver, that supports the buffer age extension which is the best for tearing prevention |
10:12.16 | robotdevil | leszek: well see I thought for many versions of kde it was good, even without the closed driver, but I recently tried cinnamon desktop and noticed it right away badly. Whether or not it is because of my looking over the DE and then noticing it again in kde, I dont know. |
10:13.01 | robotdevil | but it definitely there |
10:14.07 | robotdevil | If I buy a monitor with the same resolution as tv, it shouldnt be a problem right? |
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10:16.59 | robotdevil | Hit this one a bit while hanging up receiver |
10:17.19 | robotdevil | loves talking to an empty telephone |
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10:34.04 | robotdevil | I think I was getting some, but minimal tearing with closed driver as well. |
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10:38.13 | hateball | robotdevil: what resolution related problems are you expecting? |
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10:39.08 | robotdevil | could you rephase that please hateball |
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10:39.34 | hateball | "<robotdevil> If I buy a monitor with the same resolution as tv, it shouldnt be a problem right?" |
10:39.37 | hateball | a problem for what? |
10:39.49 | robotdevil | horizontal tearing |
10:39.53 | hateball | Oh |
10:41.01 | robotdevil | Its mainly youtube that does it, but my time there is massive |
10:41.46 | robotdevil | and I was pretty sure it wasnt doing it in kde before but I could be incorrect |
10:41.56 | Walex | robotdevil: feline themed videos? |
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10:43.22 | robotdevil | no furry(?) love here haha |
10:43.38 | robotdevil | but I have watched supercats lol |
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10:48.18 | robotdevil | I have a hard time with people when they say they never use youtube, I find it to be extremely entertaining and invaluable |
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10:49.46 | Sho_ | robotdevil: I use it a lot for music videos |
10:50.15 | Sho_ | robotdevil: I even have a VPS more or less just to route YouTube and Viki over, since they're both useless in my country |
10:51.19 | robotdevil | music, learning, illustrating, documentaries |
10:51.46 | nyloc | hi, I have a question how does kmail perform its server capability check for smtp servers (automatic detection of encryption and authentication mechanism)? |
10:52.29 | nyloc | Becaus it is not working for my server but the server works fine if I set TLS and PLAIN manually. |
10:52.59 | robotdevil | Sho_: what viki |
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10:53.57 | Sho_ | robotdevil: It's a combo of a video hosting site + a wiki, what they do is license TV content from countries and allow anyone to subtitle it (so in practice you have teams organizing etc) and then they stream it (legally) to other countries |
10:54.09 | Sho_ | robotdevil: IOW, it allows you to watch TV shows in languages you can't understand |
10:55.14 | robotdevil | neat, that would be handy |
10:56.04 | Sho_ | robotdevil: It's pretty cool because the subtitle quality is really high, crowdsourcing turns out to work really well for this because the contributors do it for the right reasons (share with fans, promote their own culture, what have you) |
10:56.15 | Sho_ | So they're motivated |
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10:57.13 | robotdevil | good, its nice to see things work like that |
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10:57.48 | robotdevil | regional lock sucks in all forms :p |
10:58.46 | robotdevil | does mplayer still have the lookup subtitles feature? |
10:59.07 | robotdevil | I thought that was a sweet idea |
11:00.09 | Sho_ | robotdevil: various players can search on opensubtitles these days yeah |
11:00.23 | Sho_ | robotdevil: but viki is closer to the source since for a lot of shows the subs effectively get generated there |
11:00.41 | Sho_ | so if you're actively following a show you can get it there fastest |
11:00.56 | robotdevil | likes subtitles in own language too, useful when ppl wont be quiet |
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11:01.43 | Sho_ | robotdevil: I like subtitles in the same language as the audio when I'm learning a language |
11:02.08 | Sho_ | It reduces the stress of listening and understanding simultaneously while you're not good yet |
11:02.40 | robotdevil | right |
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11:03.25 | robotdevil | loves when channels dont police when not busy |
11:04.33 | Sho_ | I'm a chanop here, but I agree community feeling is important and when it's not getting in the way .. |
11:04.40 | Sho_ | but speaking of support inquiries |
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11:04.45 | Sho_ | nyloc: #kontact might know better |
11:05.15 | robotdevil | thanks for your help and chit chat :) |
11:05.32 | nyloc | Sho_: thanks, I will try there while I whireshark on my interface :P |
11:05.35 | robotdevil | gotta get back to turning off head parking |
11:05.41 | robotdevil | ...... |
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13:25.56 | robotdevil | sooooo need this for kde http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=256zmoymm179nbrs8s5o.png |
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13:27.32 | Bruce_Auyeung | hi, everyone. |
13:28.18 | Bruce_Auyeung | can qml upload a local file to a remote server ? |
13:28.39 | Bruce_Auyeung | can qml in a plasmoid upload a local file to a remote server ? |
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13:41.00 | Bruce_Auyeung | is there an API for posting image/text to paste.opensuse.org? |
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13:45.36 | haz1 | hi all - i've somehow managed to get a Calendar stuck on the upper left corner of my screen. i've tried clicking "add widgets" and hovering over it to remove find the delete button, but i don't see it (the button) |
13:45.51 | haz1 | - remove |
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13:55.28 | haz1 | nevermind - feexed it |
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16:21.49 | lordievader | Good evening. |
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17:37.31 | Aiena | I am trying to figure out how KDE mouts disks in /var/run. Udisksctl mounts in /run/media not /var/run/media is there way to mount to same area as non root from terminal ? |
17:37.36 | Aiena | mounts |
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17:40.24 | Aiena | is /var/run a symbolic link to /run ? |
17:40.52 | anon1269 | how is phonon's future? |
17:41.00 | anon1269 | will kf5 strip it or keep it |
17:41.26 | Aiena | anon1269 phonon is KDE's so kf5 will definitely keep it as far as I know |
17:41.35 | Aiena | the QT phonon is rusting but not KDE's |
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17:41.56 | anon1269 | I've told they're going to replace it with qt5-multimedia? |
17:42.06 | Aiena | Anyway you can run kf5 with the Neon VM and see |
17:42.34 | Aiena | hmm if that is the case then it would be bad |
17:42.35 | Sho_ | anon1269: KF5 and Plasma 5 use Phonon |
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17:43.02 | rdieter | Aiena: /var/run is symlink to /run on my fedora 20 box, yes |
17:43.15 | Aiena | rdieter yes its looks like that is the case |
17:43.25 | Aiena | but I can access my external hdd from both |
17:43.47 | Aiena | the funny thing is if I use udiskctl from terminal KDE gui cannot unmout the drive from var/run |
17:43.55 | Aiena | rdieter I am on suse 13.1 so also rpm based |
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17:45.23 | Aiena | hmm no |
17:45.26 | Aiena | its not KDE |
17:46.18 | Aiena | hmm it was bash using the disk |
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17:46.28 | Aiena | so yeah its identical |
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20:40.32 | jiffies | anyone know how to hide the bottom toolbar in Kdevelop? |
20:41.05 | scummos | jiffies: bottom toolbar? |
20:41.21 | jiffies | hold on |
20:41.29 | scummos | the bottom dock thing? |
20:41.46 | scummos | you can right-click on the menu bar and untick it -- but don't rely on it, it's an unfeature which we eventually want to remove |
20:41.49 | scummos | but for now, it works :D |
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20:44.21 | jiffies | http://imgur.com/sYKRADj |
20:44.23 | jiffies | that one |
20:44.40 | scummos | ah yes, see above |
20:45.33 | jiffies | I can't untick it though |
20:45.39 | scummos | jiffies: why? |
20:45.39 | jiffies | I can only add buttons |
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20:45.56 | scummos | jiffies: you have to actually right-click the *menu* bar |
20:45.58 | scummos | the one in the top |
20:46.19 | jiffies | aaaaaaah |
20:46.24 | jiffies | thanks man |
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21:23.51 | Alumin | ok, so this is pretty OCD even for me, but...is it possible to tweak the mouse focus policy settings further than what's available in the KDE control center? |
21:25.14 | Alumin | what I'm hoping to achieve is a focus policy where all new windows a) appear at the top of the stack ("raised"), and b) do not receive focus (even if they appear under the mouse) |
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21:37.21 | suse | Hey, I get no operating system found. However, the OS boots perfectly well when I select "boot hard drive" form a live cd? Thoughts its an optimus set up (L502x). |
21:39.36 | Alumin | suse: sounds like your OS partition isn't marked as bootable |
21:39.37 | daz | suse: seems like you don't have bootloader record in your mbr |
21:40.07 | Alumin | suse: you can set that flag in a partitioning tool (parted, fdisk, etc.) |
21:40.23 | Alumin | actually, forget I said fdisk |
21:40.33 | daz | cfdisk ;3 |
21:40.51 | Alumin | it's time to say goodbye to that style of partition table |
21:40.58 | Alumin | so yeah, parted :) |
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21:43.29 | suse | http://pastebin.com/TeuSpYJm |
21:43.49 | suse | it say boot though, for my root partition. Or do I need a /boot |
21:44.04 | Alumin | huh |
21:44.07 | Alumin | no, that looks right |
21:44.23 | Alumin | I mean, if you had a /boot, that's what should be bootable |
21:44.59 | Alumin | but it's not necessary. The only reasons to have /boot are if your hardware can't handle the full size of the disk, or if your partitions are in formats that your bootloader can't handle |
21:45.12 | rrios | Hey there. Dolphin, for some reason, is starting frozen and it remains frozen for a while until I can use it. Anyone experiencing the same problem? |
21:45.33 | rrios | I'm running SC 4.13 |
21:45.38 | rrios | 4.13.0 |
21:45.45 | suse | Alumin: I'm wondering if it has something to do with my laptop: (L502x). I tend to have weird things happen when booting linux systems. |
21:46.41 | suse | For both Ubuntu and Debain, I would have to boot multiple times before it wouldn't get stuck on the black splash after *Dell* screen |
21:47.26 | Alumin | where did you install your boot loader? MBR, or first partition? |
21:47.53 | Alumin | personally I prefer it in the MBR, but full disclosure I'm not an expert in such matters |
21:48.33 | suse | I've tried all of them using YaST |
21:48.34 | Alumin | you _did_ install a boot loader...? |
21:48.37 | Alumin | heh |
21:48.43 | Alumin | because that would also explain the symptoms |
21:49.12 | suse | Yeah xD, I get the boot screen after hitting boot hard drive from the live cd. |
21:49.30 | Alumin | well, that's 'cause the live cd has a boot loader |
21:49.44 | Alumin | oh oh I get it |
21:49.48 | Alumin | hmmm |
21:50.15 | Alumin | you didn't somehow take the hard drive out of the BIOS/UEFI boot order? |
21:50.21 | Alumin | I'm just grabbing at straws now |
21:50.35 | scummos | most possible error conditions tend to give an error message ... |
21:50.51 | suse | If I did, I didn't on purpose ;P |
21:50.52 | Alumin | yeah, that's the trouble with problems this early in the boot process |
21:51.05 | suse | scummos, what log would have that? |
21:51.15 | scummos | dunno, usually it gets printed on the screen |
21:51.20 | Alumin | BIOS/UEFI troubleshooting is a giant PITA because they don't deign to have, I dunno, troubleshooting tools of any kind |
21:51.49 | suse | I think its still in bios when it locks up, it throws "No operating system found." |
21:52.19 | Alumin | side rant...it's 2014, they make full-blown graphical boot loaders with mouse support, but nobody sees the benefit in including USB storage support for the BIOS to write a dang log file |
21:52.29 | Alumin | or print a message on the screen even |
21:52.46 | suse | Alumin, I honestly believe its the stupid NVIDIA optimus setup |
21:53.14 | scummos | if it says "No OS found" in big font, it's usually the BIOS not finding a bootloader |
21:53.16 | Alumin | yeah, I had a bit of trouble with that when I did my most recent install |
21:53.22 | scummos | not the OS itself failing to boot |
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21:53.32 | Alumin | scummos: yeah, that's what I was thinking |
21:53.46 | scummos | make sure you install the loader on /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1 or so |
21:54.09 | Alumin | I'm not sure enough of that to tell him he's mistaken when he says he installed one, but that _is_ what it looks like :) |
21:54.15 | sinma | Hey, I was wondering if it’s possible to make a script that set the alt-tab order the same as those used in icontasks |
21:54.16 | dyrvere | Alumin: If they only did this, in the factory for us. http://kroah.com/log/blog/2013/09/02/booting-a-self-signed-linux-kernel/ |
21:54.23 | sinma | I mean a Kwin script |
21:55.40 | suse | Alumin, http://pastebin.com/5d72hWNB that would mean I have a boot loader? |
21:55.54 | scummos | no |
21:56.00 | scummos | it doesn't have much to do with it |
21:56.06 | Alumin | suse: that means you have the GRUB software installed on your system |
21:56.16 | scummos | if the loader doesn't have its ... loading code installed in the place where the BIOS looks, it will do nothing |
21:56.27 | Alumin | it doesn't confirm that the actual boot loader software is installed into the...uh...magic place where the BIOS looks for it |
21:56.30 | scummos | you can try grub2-install /dev/sda |
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21:56.44 | scummos | if /dev/sda is the disk you want to overwrite the bootloader on |
21:56.48 | Alumin | think of it like a driver |
21:56.57 | Alumin | you can download catalyst.zip but it won't do anything until you install it |
21:57.05 | scummos | ... similar to that xD |
21:57.14 | Alumin | very loose analogy lol |
21:57.55 | Alumin | but yeah, grub-install is what you want (possibly called "grub2-install" depending on distro naming scheme) |
21:58.17 | Alumin | I mean, you'd assume that the SUSE install process would take care of that |
21:58.31 | Alumin | but yeah, based solely on the behaviour you're reporting, it seems suspect |
21:58.41 | scummos | only if you click the right button |
21:58.44 | suse | http://pastebin.com/aqvzv1e0 |
21:58.48 | scummos | it's easy enough to get it wrong |
21:59.12 | scummos | oh it's a GPT table |
21:59.16 | suse | so I need to add a bios boot partition |
21:59.18 | scummos | does grub even work with those? |
21:59.19 | scummos | is clueless |
21:59.43 | Alumin | grub2 does |
21:59.50 | Alumin | (grub 1.x might as well, I don't know) |
21:59.55 | scummos | ok |
22:00.03 | scummos | anyways, GPT, I'm out, no idea about that ;) |
22:00.04 | scummos | good luck |
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22:00.25 | suse | hah sounds good :) |
22:01.35 | Alumin | suse: I'm afraid I've never seen that before, apparently GPT is fancier than I thought |
22:01.55 | Alumin | this post makes it sound like perhaps SUSE didn't set something up that it should have? https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/grub2-does-not-boot-with-gpt-4175414534/ |
22:02.49 | Alumin | now, what you could potentially do is re-partition the disk with an msdos (the "familiar" style) partition table |
22:03.31 | Alumin | that would be as a workaround to re-partitioning with something that knows GPT well enough to create the necessary metadata ("BIOS Boot Partition", etc.) |
22:04.06 | Alumin | trouble with that is that creating an actual new partition, which probably has to be at the beginning of the disk, might disturb your existing installation(s) |
22:04.26 | Alumin | hence why I suggested overwriting with an msdos partition table |
22:05.15 | Alumin | anyway, point being, that page I linked shows somebody with a GPT partition table successfully getting up and running by doing grub-install |
22:05.36 | Alumin | but he had a "BIOS Boot Partition", whereas I don't see one in the partition table listing you pastebin-ed |
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22:09.23 | suse | Alumin, just for info: http://pastebin.com/ZQ4gaFi6 |
22:09.35 | suse | it tells me to use yast xD |
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22:11.28 | Alumin | ah...well, that's not necessarily unreasonable, maybe it knows how to gracefully resolve the situation |
22:12.07 | Alumin | if it can gracefully nudge your other partitions two MiB forward, create that other utility partition, and do the magic, then more power to it :) |
22:12.34 | suse | some guy suggested me blowing away the GPT and that it should work :3 |
22:13.31 | suse | fingers crossed*** |
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23:57.44 | cythrawll | so, I can't seem to get a regular picture as my background, all I hae to choose from the wallpaper dialog are virus, pattern, picture of the day, mandelbrot, globe, weather |
23:57.50 | cythrawll | i just want an image |