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| 02:00.28 | LapJup | if i have a multi-boot box and run kde, can i set things up so it uses a common set of config/history/etc files? |
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| 02:07.36 | root2 | do any of you know if ghostery has an irc channel on any network? |
| 02:08.34 | root2 | oops, running irc as root might be rather stupid =D |
| 02:10.51 | root2 | the rason i ask is because i would like to askif there ever will be a ghostery version for konqueror. |
| 02:13.35 | root2 | or arora |
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| 02:16.16 | dazpetty | hi |
| 02:16.22 | dazpetty | I've just moved from kde to xfce |
| 02:16.31 | root2 | Hi dazpetty |
| 02:16.39 | dazpetty | I want to make the terminal appear when i press ctrl + ` (tlide) |
| 02:16.47 | dazpetty | and I preferable want it to stick to the top of the screen |
| 02:16.56 | root2 | like yakuake? |
| 02:17.05 | dazpetty | yeah |
| 02:17.06 | dazpetty | or guake |
| 02:17.32 | dazpetty | maybe i should just install yakuake |
| 02:17.48 | root2 | use any of them, add the shortcut in the preferences and boom, done. |
| 02:18.02 | root2 | yakuake has many features that guake does not. |
| 02:18.18 | root2 | like manual resizing of split terminals. |
| 02:18.26 | root2 | I find that incredibly useful |
| 02:18.54 | dazpetty | ah |
| 02:19.16 | dazpetty | ok, windows appear and disappear a bit too slowly |
| 02:19.22 | root2 | also (this is very much a personal taste) i find that fonts render much prettier in QT apps like konsole and Yakuake compared to gnome-terminal and guake |
| 02:19.31 | dazpetty | ahh ok |
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| 02:19.45 | dazpetty | i havent used guake for a while, i had my xfce term to be similar to it though |
| 02:20.34 | dazpetty | can i make the terminal a little bit transparent? |
| 02:20.35 | root2 | dazpetty: in xkfce (if compositing is enabled) you can set the effect for startup to 0ms and it will appear faster |
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| 02:20.58 | root2 | dazpetty: any window can be made transparent if you have compositing enabled. |
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| 02:21.27 | root2 | in kde you find those settings in "systemsettings" in xfce those would be somewhere in the effects subpanel. |
| 02:22.13 | CrypticByte | dazpetty, you see what i post on #manjaro about your stuff |
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| 02:23.22 | dazpetty | ahh cool CrypticByte |
| 02:23.32 | dazpetty | I like how you changed the manjary/kde icon to a penguin |
| 02:23.45 | dazpetty | ahh you using homerun? |
| 02:24.21 | CrypticByte | at the bottom of your .bashrc file put screenfetch -A 'Penguin' |
| 02:24.56 | CrypticByte | and for the red fire prompt you have to install bashish thats a little more tricky since the AUR's bashish is broken you need to edit the PKGBUILD |
| 02:25.26 | CrypticByte | yes homerun edited the icon with a ghost penguin to match the ghost octopi / pacman theme :P |
| 02:26.15 | dazpetty | CrypticByte, is that Conky? |
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| 02:26.33 | CrypticByte | yes with my personal tweaks |
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| 02:27.46 | root2 | */j #weechat |
| 02:27.49 | root2 | damn |
| 02:28.02 | CrypticByte | :P been trying to get more into the whole customizing thing :P im learning so much more about config files |
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| 02:31.49 | dazpetty | nice |
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| 02:33.13 | dazpetty | cool |
| 02:33.20 | dazpetty | I better get back to doing real things now |
| 02:33.57 | dazpetty | like punishing myself with android add development |
| 02:34.05 | CrypticByte | :P have fun haha |
| 02:34.22 | nagerst | dazpetty: Smartphones... ugh. I wish they were never invented. |
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| 02:35.34 | nagerst | People never talk to each other in person any more. In the lunch room most breaks noone ever speaks. All jsut sit there drinking their coffee and looking at their smartphones. I seriously believe that smartphones is the bane of western society. |
| 02:37.33 | dazpetty | they are just as popular in asia |
| 02:37.42 | dazpetty | its all about being polite and responsible though |
| 02:37.58 | nagerst | dazpetty: much of asia has adopted the western society model in many regards. |
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| 02:38.42 | dazpetty | personally I'm more inclined to blame something like facebook addiction |
| 02:39.14 | nagerst | facebook is a tiny player in the whole scheme of things. The smartphones are the enablers of anti-social behaviour. |
| 02:39.57 | CrypticByte | :P I'm antisocial and I dont even have a phone |
| 02:40.10 | nagerst | If i owned a company i would put up 3G+LTE distruptors so they would have to leave the premises to surf the web on their smartphones. |
| 02:40.42 | nagerst | =D |
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| 02:41.59 | dazpetty | well, I'm trying to start a business as a game developer with smart phones as the primary platform, but I acknoledge there is a time and a place for these things |
| 02:42.11 | dazpetty | and it is rude to be on the smart phone when you should be talking to your friend |
| 02:42.52 | nagerst | yes |
| 02:42.59 | funfool | I waste a lot of time playing eternal lands at home, amazing how many other players are at work |
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| 02:44.32 | nagerst | funfool: if you look at your facebook page and look when your co-workers sends you request for game crap, you quickly notice that it is often during their (and your) workhours, thus if you work as a team for provision lowers the average output and thus your salary. Sad state of affairs that.. |
| 02:45.37 | funfool | I am a carpenter by trade and do not use a computer at work, but I see others all the time do it |
| 02:45.39 | nagerst | I once waited 3 hours for a forklift, the guy was playing some game... Oh how i loathe mobile phones. |
| 02:46.10 | nagerst | i had to get one though as landlines has been shut down up here. |
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| 02:55.44 | brallan | Hello. Is there a way to get recently notifications from "Notifications and Jobs"? |
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| 03:02.23 | diegoviola | why is folderview as desktop layout so buggy |
| 03:02.24 | diegoviola | i always have to switch to desktop and then to folderview for it to work again |
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| 03:11.56 | dazpetty | how do i change kde dolphin view to details |
| 03:12.08 | dazpetty | iu dont like icone |
| 03:12.36 | dazpetty | ohh never minsd |
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| 03:54.11 | silv3r_m00n | hi there |
| 03:54.22 | silv3r_m00n | there is an issue with font rendering in 2 places of the kde desktop |
| 03:54.28 | silv3r_m00n | http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=121659 |
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| 03:56.28 | virusdunil | hello there from quebec |
| 03:57.19 | w00dog | hello virusdunil from BC |
| 03:58.07 | virusdunil | i need a bit of help |
| 03:59.26 | virusdunil | im on qiana kde,from Dolphin,i want to see the pics previews in DCIM on my cell phone and i cant find a way |
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| 04:00.34 | w00dog | virusdunil: isn't there a "preview" button at top of Dolphin? (next to split on mine) |
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| 04:01.26 | virusdunil | yes there is one but nothing happens,only the size of the files are changing |
| 04:02.49 | virusdunil | to see the pics,i have to copy them on my home folder then i see the previews but only the pictures...not the videos |
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| 04:05.28 | w00dog | virusdunil: very odd. I've got a DCIM folder open with previews - been sitting that way for days now. Dolphin 2.2 on KDE 4.10.2 (probably oldish versions) |
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| 04:06.35 | virusdunil | i have dolphin 4.13.1... |
| 04:08.53 | w00dog | I think you have KDE 4.13.1 but Dolphin shouldn't have jumped that many versions. Mine's 2.2 |
| 04:09.40 | w00dog | regardless, I just went through the settings (I'm kinda new to daily KDE use myself) and didn't see anything that seemed like it's applicable to your situation. |
| 04:10.23 | virusdunil | yupp...4.13.1 ;) |
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| 04:13.58 | virusdunil | ill try my question tomorrow during daytime...cheers |
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| 07:53.01 | SpaceKookie | Is it normal, that sometimes application starters won't terminate? (So the icon on my mouse cursor will keep bouncing for about a minute although the application was already started? :/) |
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| 07:57.12 | lejocelyn | hi guys |
| 07:57.40 | lejocelyn | funny thing, I don't have any more the form in kmail, linked to the display of messages that allow to look for emails |
| 07:57.45 | lejocelyn | what could it be ? |
| 07:58.23 | lejocelyn | and the search function doesn't work |
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| 09:08.39 | JackWinter | how does kmail work? can't i read msgs directly on an imap server? do i have to copy them to a local folder? when i chose a folder on an imap server, i still just get the blue back background and no msg list? |
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| 09:09.52 | karthikp | JackWinter: Did you set up the account details? |
| 09:10.58 | karthikp | When you do, you have the option of using disconnected imap (mails are fetched and stored locally) or the default (mail lives on the server, is fetched when you want to read them). |
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| 09:12.23 | karthikp | Also, F5 will refresh the current folder. |
| 09:12.25 | JackWinter | karthikp: i think i set it up. atleast it shows me the imap server with all it's folders. |
| 09:12.42 | karthikp | Okay, that's good. I wasn't sure you had. |
| 09:12.46 | JackWinter | also how do i stop it spamming notifications? |
| 09:12.56 | karthikp | What notifications are you getting? |
| 09:13.18 | karthikp | (Settings > Configure notifications) |
| 09:13.19 | JackWinter | i get notifications about new lkml msgs all the time |
| 09:13.41 | karthikp | You can right click on the folder and uncheck act on new mail. |
| 09:14.18 | karthikp | This will not notify you about new mail in that folder and will not count the mails when showing the system tray icon for new mails. |
| 09:14.24 | JackWinter | thanks, i found that one |
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| 10:45.36 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 10:50.15 | nagerst | hi BluesKaj |
| 10:50.53 | nagerst | Does anyone know if there is any plans on bringing ghostery or equivalent anti-tracking features to konqueror? |
| 10:51.09 | nagerst | or arora |
| 10:53.11 | nagerst | or any of the KDE oriented browsers. Now that opera 12 is dead and 13+ is just a crappier version of chromium (which parent sponsor i do not trust in the least). Perhaps a good FOSS Qt alternative will once again compete for the top spot on KDE desktops. |
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| 10:55.17 | nagerst | oh i had no idea that arora is dead as well =( |
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| 11:00.07 | BluesKaj | hi nagerst, sorry, I have no clue about new KDE based browsers |
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| 11:03.29 | haz1 | you could probably emulate it by disabling caching and history |
| 11:06.27 | scummos | ghostery merely informs you of some tracking features of websites while adding another tracking feature itself |
| 11:06.37 | scummos | it's not really an anti-tracking tool |
| 11:07.56 | nagerst | benchmarking on debian atm: konqueror vs opera vs firefox vs midori vs chromium with peacekeeper (i know, but it is a rather good performance test). Is chromium not supposed to be fastest? So far CH~3100, FF~2900, MD~3200. I am guessing konqueror with webkit will get hte same results as midori. But i will be fun to see what khtml can manage. |
| 11:08.15 | nagerst | opera 3150 |
| 11:08.55 | nagerst | thgou it might be my system |
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| 11:09.15 | nagerst | scummos: what would be a good alternative then? |
| 11:09.25 | nagerst | Ghostery has blocking options. |
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| 11:09.51 | scummos | well I think adblock, noscript and tools which allow easy control of who can store cookies solve most needs |
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| 11:10.28 | nagerst | scummos: is there a easy toggle noscript for any Qt based browser? |
| 11:10.39 | scummos | not that I'd know of :( |
| 11:10.41 | nagerst | scummos: i refuse all cookies. |
| 11:11.20 | scummos | yeah, but without an easy way to toggle that it makes half the internet useless |
| 11:11.42 | nagerst | what parts of the internet would need cookies? |
| 11:12.30 | scummos | all sites with logins |
| 11:12.41 | nagerst | when wikipedia, sourceforge and github enforces cookies i might just stop using the web and just go back to cli networking again. |
| 11:13.10 | nagerst | good sites allows other connection types, like svn or cvs. |
| 11:13.58 | nagerst | i stopped contributing to gnome-look and kde-look once they started needing web-login and closed the ftp uploads. |
| 11:14.56 | nagerst | the browser is the only non-cli application i use anyways. |
| 11:15.22 | nagerst | in X konsole is unbeatable though. |
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| 11:39.11 | dazpetty | the only way for me to fix it is to go into settings, go to application appearence and re-apply oxygen/whatever theme |
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| 12:13.10 | JackWinter | hmm, i closed kmail, but i still have an akonadi_imap_resource process eating 1.4gb ram and a akonadi_baloo_indexer eating another 400mb or so. aren't they supposed to go away? i have disabled baloo as i don't use it's features |
| 12:14.21 | scummos | if you use search in kmail you use its features |
| 12:14.38 | scummos | but for both the memory consumption is highly unusual |
| 12:14.38 | JackWinter | i didn't, and i closed kmail :) |
| 12:14.52 | scummos | for me akonadi_imap takes 65M |
| 12:15.10 | JackWinter | in fact i didn't manage to read any msgs at all on my imap server, just had the blue welcome screen |
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| 12:16.59 | JackWinter | probably has to do with having huge mailinglist folders. when kmail2 came out i abandoned it, because it was unable to import my kmail1 mail archives, just ate all my ram and never finished the conversion. thought i'd try it again as all my mail nowdays resides on imap servers and not on any local storage |
| 12:18.13 | JackWinter | maybe i have to remove the imap server i configured in kmail for akonadi_imap_resource to go away? |
| 12:18.26 | scummos | akonadictl stop |
| 12:19.02 | JackWinter | thanks, that made it go away |
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| 12:19.40 | JackWinter | oh well, i might try it again in 2015 then B) thanks! |
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| 12:22.39 | dazpetty | AREAS OF MY WINDOWS KEEP TURNING WHITE |
| 12:22.48 | dazpetty | the only way for me to fix it is to go into settings, go to application appearence and re-apply oxygen/whatever them |
| 12:23.47 | rdieter | dazpetty: symptoms imply may be some sort of video driver problem |
| 12:30.04 | dazpetty | well I guess I'm just out of luck then |
| 12:30.45 | dazpetty | even though I have a totally normal nvidia video card and didn't have this problem in xfce |
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| 12:32.18 | rdieter | dazpetty: xfce doesn't use desktop effects/compositing |
| 12:32.32 | rdieter | you could try disabling those, it might help. systemsettings->desktop effects |
| 12:32.55 | rdieter | or revert to safer xrender based effects instead of opengl |
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| 12:53.06 | dazpetty | nope that didn't work |
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| 12:54.40 | rdieter | dazpetty: lastly, could switch away from the default oxygen widget style, could be it's the trigger too (qt/kde apps often use a different integrated style when run outside of kde environment, like xfce) |
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| 12:57.30 | dazpetty | i changed to openGL3 |
| 12:57.38 | dazpetty | and changed to raster |
| 12:57.47 | dazpetty | in advanced |
| 12:57.52 | dazpetty | idk if it will work |
| 12:57.56 | dazpetty | I have to wait and see |
| 12:58.00 | dazpetty | thanks |
| 12:58.19 | dazpetty | otherwise the only fix is going with a light colored theme so i wont notice |
| 12:59.18 | dazpetty | where is it that I change the shadow/glow color behind windows? |
| 12:59.37 | rdieter | yeah, you definitely want raster |
| 12:59.43 | rdieter | oxygen-settings |
| 13:00.13 | rdieter | I think it's under window decorations->shadows |
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| 13:01.22 | twkozlowski | ciao KDE |
| 13:01.48 | twkozlowski | Just thought you guys might want to follow up on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66778 |
| 13:02.01 | dazpetty | hmmm |
| 13:02.04 | twkozlowski | as our (Wikimedia) Bugzilla seems to have been based off the installation you guys run |
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| 13:39.58 | dazpetty | how do i get rid of this, "on all desktops button"? |
| 13:45.51 | rdieter | dazpetty: what button where? |
| 13:46.05 | rdieter | can you give more detail or context? |
| 13:46.46 | dyrvere | dazpetty: in the window border settings same tab you find plasma desktop styles. I bet is the one you are refering to. |
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| 13:49.45 | dazpetty | its on the top left of every window, opposite minimize , maximize and close |
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| 13:50.29 | dyrvere | dazpetty: So yeah, customize buttons in the window decoration options then. Where you can also rearrange order of them. :D |
| 13:51.15 | dazpetty | nooo but i cant see it |
| 13:51.58 | dyrvere | dazpetty: can't see the button? What border theme? |
| 13:52.26 | dazpetty | option for the button |
| 13:52.39 | dazpetty | anyway its not really a poblem |
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| 14:08.59 | hateball | dazpetty: alt+f2 -> decorations -> customize buttons -> pull down the + into the list |
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| 14:19.35 | LapJup | if i have a multi-boot box and run kde, can i set things up so it uses a common set of config/history/etc files? |
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| 14:41.14 | rdieter | LapJup: depends on what you're multi-booting. Ie, if software versions (loosely) match and are these distros compatible |
| 14:41.30 | rdieter | usually that means that it's probably not safe |
| 14:41.56 | LapJup | hmmm |
| 14:42.33 | rdieter | you're welcome to try and test how things work, but don't be surprised if it doesn't |
| 14:42.53 | LapJup | heh |
| 14:43.31 | LapJup | how about the kde stuff. for example konqueror and kmail? |
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| 14:44.54 | rdieter | if versions are approximately the same, and kde is configured similarly on said distros, odds aren't bad |
| 14:45.17 | rdieter | examples of config differences that would cause problems: some distros use ~/.kde, some use ~/.kde4/ |
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| 14:45.35 | LapJup | hmm |
| 14:46.10 | LapJup | it would be nice if one could do that :-) |
| 14:46.56 | rdieter | nice yeah, but the pain of ensuring that really isn't worth it. software would have to try to guarantee backward *and* forward compatibility |
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| 14:47.17 | rdieter | not practical |
| 14:47.33 | LapJup | heh |
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| 15:11.11 | barjac | Where does kde store the name of the application it runs as the "Embedded Advanced Text Editor"? |
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| 15:13.36 | barjac | ... or better how can that application be run from a script without knowing what it is? |
| 15:14.07 | karthikp | barjac: The "embedded advanced text editor" is the embedded version of the kde advanced text editor, also known as kate. |
| 15:14.24 | karthikp | For scripting, however, you might want to call the lighter kwrite instead. |
| 15:14.59 | karthikp | (kate has or can have lots of plugins. kwrite is a simple container for the text editor component.) |
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| 15:17.03 | barjac | karthikp: Yes I appreciate that it's usually kwrite, but if kate is installed I would prefer to run that - is there no generic $EDITOR style way to call it so that kate or kwrite are used depending on availability? |
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| 15:18.12 | barjac | This is how dolphin appears to work - it uses kwrite unless kate is installed - then kate is used. |
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| 15:18.24 | q9 | Hi, is there a way to switch the order of the ok/cancel buttons to cancel/ok? |
| 15:19.33 | cb400f | it might be possible with the qtcurve widget style.. not entirely sure |
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| 15:20.12 | karthikp | q9: Check in qtconfig. |
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| 15:20.47 | karthikp | The order, I believe is decided automatically depending on your environment. In kde, the order is ok/cancel. In gnome, it's reversed. |
| 15:21.52 | karthikp | barjac: You could use xdg-open. It opens kwrite, which is my default text editor. |
| 15:22.09 | karthikp | The problem is that it may open a different application if it thinks the file is not plain text. |
| 15:22.41 | karthikp | (xdg-open doesn't seem to care for my $EDITOR, which is set to vim, btw.) |
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| 15:31.11 | rdieter | karthikp: hint: on kde xdg-open is basically a wrapper for kde-open |
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| 15:32.17 | karthikp | Ah, kde-open! I was trying kopen and not finding anything. :) |
| 15:32.17 | rdieter | (so it won't make any difference) |
| 15:32.42 | rdieter | generally, it's all about mimetypes, and the default app set for each one |
| 15:33.30 | karthikp | rdieter: Doesn't xdg-open have the better claim because it's technically supposed to work on all "free desktop"s? So, safer to use that, right? |
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| 15:34.17 | rdieter | karthikp: correct. |
| 15:35.03 | rdieter | I was just pointing out that if you expected xdg-open to behave differently under kde than dolphin or kde-open, you needed to adjust your expectations. :) |
| 15:35.37 | karthikp | Oh no. The question was how to write a script that will open a plain text file with kwrite/kate. |
| 15:36.31 | rdieter | ok. xdg-open is the way to go then (though you're not *guarateed* that plain/text mimetype is associated with an editor... it could open in some read-only viewer) |
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| 15:38.19 | q9 | cb400f: you're right. It's configurable with qtcurve. But it's got a hell lot of other configuration option 8-) |
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| 15:38.46 | cb400f | it has a few ;-) |
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| 16:02.51 | lordievader | Good evening. |
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| 16:05.52 | Tom_B | Is there any way to change the behaviour of the maximize button? I'd like it to essentially best-guess the window snapping feature based on the window's current position so it maximises to 1/4 of the screen |
| 16:07.42 | cb400f | why not just drag the window to the corner edge, instead of clicking the button in that case :-) |
| 16:08.29 | cb400f | or maybe you should go all in and use the kwin tiling script |
| 16:09.00 | Tom_B | That's what I'm doing, it's just more work and a little clunky getting the correct part to show. |
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| 16:10.24 | Tom_B | That tiling script looks like it might do what I want, thanks |
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| 16:45.09 | yecril71pl | I created a file named object.html. It has 277 bytes and is stored in the root directory of the SD card of my smartphone LG-E430. |
| 16:46.08 | yecril71pl | So I execute { kioclient cat 'mtp:/LG-E430/Pamięć wewnętrzna/object.html'; } and the result is 3928828 bytes of unknown binary data. |
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| 16:48.24 | yecril71pl | So I execute { kioclient cp 'mtp:/LG-E430/Pamięć wewnętrzna/object.html' .; } and the result is identical to the original. |
| 16:48.29 | yecril71pl | What gives? |
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| 16:54.39 | thiago | kio_mtp must be handling a copy() different from a get() |
| 16:54.59 | thiago | why are you using MTP for HTML anyway? |
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| 16:58.02 | GlenK | so git prompts you for a password. I'm using it via konsole though. but the kde gui for storing passwords pops up at that point. is there a way to stop that? |
| 16:59.34 | yecril71pl | thiago: my phone has two modes: MTP and PTP. |
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| 17:00.01 | yecril71pl | It is not mountable as a block device. |
| 17:00.03 | lainlives | yecril71pl: ? your rom doesnt support switching to UMS in the CWM recovery? |
| 17:00.40 | yecril71pl | What is CWM recovery? |
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| 17:09.31 | yecril71pl | Sometimes though it says the source directory does not exist |
| 17:09.41 | yecril71pl | then it reattaches to the phone |
| 17:10.37 | yecril71pl | after an MTP slave crash |
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| 17:26.15 | yecril71pl | Bug 336456 has been added to the database |
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| 17:33.23 | lainlives | yecril71pl: my MTP device only worked after i removed all mtp libs from my machine, then teh player fell back to UMS mode |
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| 17:33.38 | lainlives | i never got mtp to work right in windows or any linux distro |
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| 17:41.23 | yecril71pl | What player? |
| 17:41.51 | yecril71pl | My phone does not have UMS mode. |
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| 18:19.37 | monod | Hello, I've got a problem |
| 18:19.37 | monod | Every startup, nautilus starts with a window |
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| 18:19.38 | monod | I have Debian with Gnome, afterwards I installed KDE and now.. this happens.. |
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| 18:20.16 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.13 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 18:23.03 | lainlives | monod: evne when you shut down with no windows open? |
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| 18:24.35 | monod | lainlives, You made me recall that when I shutdown, the gnome desktop appears for an instant, as if it was in the background from the beginning! |
| 18:24.53 | monod | So *That's* where it comes from at the startup |
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| 18:24.56 | monod | Right? |
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| 18:25.19 | lainlives | its possible, also check kde settings, in the autostart tab |
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| 18:26.10 | monod | lainlives, I moved each and every script that was in that place |
| 18:26.36 | monod | It's very frustrating having not knowing what the computer is doing... |
| 18:26.44 | acerspyro | What's his issue? |
| 18:27.17 | monod | On the other hand, you cannot have higher security with Windows... (but at least it gives you a sense of control...) |
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| 18:27.35 | monod | acerspyro, every startup, a nautilus window shows up |
| 18:27.48 | acerspyro | What's your login manager? |
| 18:27.57 | monod | The KDE one.. |
| 18:27.59 | monod | (I think) |
| 18:28.07 | monod | (Guessing from its looks) |
| 18:28.17 | monod | (And from the fact it changed when I installed KDE) |
| 18:28.29 | acerspyro | Odd, I saw a computer that actually shows the GNOME desktop for a few seconds before going to the LXDE one... |
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| 18:28.54 | monod | Yes, mine goes to the gnome desktop too, *but* at the shutdown |
| 18:29.02 | monod | Quite strange.. |
| 18:29.06 | lainlives | weird |
| 18:29.07 | acerspyro | You could always try uninstalling the GNOME stuff... |
| 18:29.09 | lainlives | uninstall gnome |
| 18:29.13 | monod | It's like gnome and KDE configs overlap! |
| 18:29.26 | lainlives | id remove gnome completely |
| 18:29.27 | acerspyro | No, GNOME configs are trying to take over. |
| 18:29.34 | monod | Indeed.. it's like you cannot have both at the same time... |
| 18:29.58 | lainlives | you can |
| 18:30.02 | lainlives | but this is strange |
| 18:30.02 | acerspyro | I saw that a lot with my old OS. I tried OpenSUSE 11.2 with the GNOME desktop |
| 18:30.13 | lainlives | if your not using gnome, id imagine removing it would be the easiest fix |
| 18:30.24 | acerspyro | Then chose I didn't like GNOME, so I installed KDE over it. Had problems until I removed GNOME entirely. |
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| 18:30.50 | monod | I am more familiar with Gnome than with KDE, so I'd rather uninstall this one.. |
| 18:31.07 | lainlives | acerspyro: i thankfully moved to opensuse at the right time :) when i moved over, about 2 months later i found out its an evergreen release :D |
| 18:31.10 | acerspyro | monod: you can always hav eKDE act like GNOME if you want. |
| 18:31.10 | monod | Any suggestion on this? |
| 18:31.23 | monod | acerspyro, Ok, tell more about this and what do you mean |
| 18:31.46 | acerspyro | I personally like to use the "search and launch" desktop |
| 18:31.58 | monod | lainlives, What do you mean? And what does evergreen mean? |
| 18:32.17 | monod | acerspyro, Are you talking about the latest Gnome release? |
| 18:32.20 | acerspyro | That's a fullscreen application launcher that always stays on your desktop, you can browse it like a big menu, with subcategories and a search box, with a favorites area on top |
| 18:32.25 | lainlives | monod: oh its just their LTS version |
| 18:32.33 | monod | lainlives, Ah, ok |
| 18:32.44 | monod | acerspyro, Got it |
| 18:33.04 | monod | It's weird, sounds like KDE it's harder than Gnome |
| 18:33.15 | monod | I'm really thinking of sticking with Gnome, you know |: |
| 18:33.17 | monod | :D |
| 18:33.22 | acerspyro | Not much, just more functions |
| 18:33.22 | lainlives | then remove KDE |
| 18:33.37 | acerspyro | ^ What the fuck... |
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| 18:33.53 | acerspyro | >.> |
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| 18:34.36 | lainlives | acerspyro: what, if he wants gnome, why force him to be on kde |
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| 18:34.51 | acerspyro | lainlives: no, I'm saying that because of those flood disconnects. |
| 18:34.55 | lainlives | ah |
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| 18:35.00 | lainlives | yea i was wondering about those too |
| 18:35.06 | lainlives | xD |
| 18:35.07 | acerspyro | I believe FN is under attack again. |
| 18:35.20 | monod | Argh. |
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| 18:36.37 | monod | Do I lose something by uninstalling KDE and sticking with Gnome? |
| 18:36.42 | acerspyro | monod: only uninstall the desktop, not the libs |
| 18:36.52 | monod | acerspyro, Eh? |
| 18:36.58 | acerspyro | Uninstalling the libs will mean uninstalling all the KDE programs you have installed. |
| 18:37.29 | monod | Why should I care about KDE programs? acerspyro |
| 18:37.47 | acerspyro | monod: I do not know, maybe you have some installed |
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| 18:38.07 | monod | Oh, thanks for the thought then |
| 18:38.10 | acerspyro | np |
| 18:38.24 | monod | Btw |
| 18:38.27 | monod | Do I lose something by uninstalling KDE and sticking with Gnome? |
| 18:38.34 | lainlives | KDE |
| 18:38.38 | lainlives | thats about it |
| 18:38.43 | monod | Of course :D Only that? |
| 18:38.53 | acerspyro | You lose all your KDE apps. |
| 18:39.02 | monod | I meant like: |
| 18:39.18 | monod | Are there disadvantages for not having KDE? |
| 18:39.31 | monod | Would it be more advantageous to learn KDE over Gnome? |
| 18:39.39 | pauletin | this is either a complete newbie or a baiting tryhard |
| 18:39.39 | monod | Or is it 100% personal |
| 18:39.46 | lainlives | not really, it all depends on what workflow your comfortable |
| 18:39.50 | acerspyro | Um, depends on your taste, sure KDE has a lot of functionality, but if you're used to GNOME... |
| 18:40.02 | lainlives | +with |
| 18:40.03 | acerspyro | And as I said, you can make KDE look like GNOME. |
| 18:40.08 | monod | lainlives, Tell me more about that |
| 18:40.17 | monod | Sorry, I mean |
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| 18:40.26 | monod | About the workflows and not the lookings :) |
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| 18:40.42 | lainlives | workflow, you know, how well you know the system, how smoothly you flow from task to task |
| 18:40.48 | lainlives | its really basically preference |
| 18:40.50 | acerspyro | Yeah, depends on you. |
| 18:40.54 | monod | Ah ok |
| 18:40.57 | monod | That meaning |
| 18:40.59 | monod | Uhm |
| 18:41.08 | monod | At the moment I think I rather prefer Gnome |
| 18:41.17 | monod | It's like the entry level desktop environment for me |
| 18:41.24 | monod | Easy access to things |
| 18:41.32 | monod | And starting to understand its "working" |
| 18:41.39 | monod | "inner workings" |
| 18:41.42 | acerspyro | By example, I love having a lot of functions available to me in my apps |
| 18:41.43 | lainlives | personally fullscreen kickers make me wanna punch things |
| 18:41.49 | monod | Lol |
| 18:41.51 | acerspyro | lainlives: me too |
| 18:41.52 | monod | What are those? |
| 18:41.54 | lainlives | oh and icons |
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| 18:41.57 | lainlives | i dont use icons |
| 18:41.59 | acerspyro | Mine's like a wallpaper, tho |
| 18:41.59 | monod | they* |
| 18:42.00 | lainlives | anywhere on my system |
| 18:42.10 | acerspyro | I have a bottom menu AND a wallpaper launcher |
| 18:42.14 | lainlives | monod: full screen app launchers |
| 18:42.29 | monod | Like Unity on Ubuntu? |
| 18:42.33 | monod | lainlives, ^ |
| 18:42.39 | acerspyro | Um |
| 18:42.40 | acerspyro | No |
| 18:42.44 | lainlives | gnome3 is more what i mean |
| 18:42.47 | acerspyro | Let me show you a pic |
| 18:42.48 | monod | Ok |
| 18:42.51 | monod | Got it got it |
| 18:42.56 | monod | I saw it |
| 18:42.59 | lainlives | i prefer text only lists |
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| 18:43.16 | monod | Like goodold Gnome 2 :) |
| 18:44.00 | monod | I think I'll try to uninstall KDE then... |
| 18:44.05 | monod | Thanks for everything! |
| 18:44.07 | lainlives | good luck |
| 18:44.13 | acerspyro | http://imgur.com/crih4i4 |
| 18:44.15 | monod | I'll miss its graphics though... |
| 18:44.29 | acerspyro | KSnapshot allows me to export to Imgur directly from itself. |
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| 18:44.30 | monod | The jumping thumbnails :D |
| 18:44.58 | monod | I don't understand what's in the pic |
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| 18:45.05 | acerspyro | My desktop |
| 18:45.13 | lainlives | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KaG2+-+Keep+alive+Gnome2++light+version?content=146062 |
| 18:45.14 | monod | Yeah, I don't understand areas of your desktop |
| 18:45.17 | lainlives | gnome2 theme for KDE |
| 18:45.17 | acerspyro | With two windows that I made semi-transparent |
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| 18:45.31 | monod | lainlives, LOL |
| 18:45.47 | acerspyro | The bottom's the taskbar, the very top is the favorites area and the center is the sections browser / app launcher |
| 18:45.53 | monod | Oh, and I now see it's a panel on the top |
| 18:46.05 | acerspyro | It's not |
| 18:46.12 | acerspyro | It's part of the launcher |
| 18:46.29 | monod | I don't feel comfortable :S |
| 18:46.30 | pauletin | personally I can't fathom how people can live without a taskbar that has two rows, with both texts and icons; and Krusader |
| 18:46.48 | monod | Gotta go afk now guys |
| 18:46.52 | monod | Cya later! |
| 18:46.53 | acerspyro | bb |
| 18:47.59 | lainlives | acerspyro: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25714451/snapshot2.png i love them qml wallpapers too much |
| 18:48.21 | lainlives | ive since removed the dark tint from the transparency |
| 18:48.23 | acerspyro | lol |
| 18:48.26 | lainlives | now its 100% transparent |
| 18:48.35 | acerspyro | What's that theme? |
| 18:49.04 | lainlives | its sliced parts of hundreds, but there is one called transparent that is used for the base |
| 18:49.12 | acerspyro | Btw, I never found a theme that has a taskbar that looked like actual glass |
| 18:50.29 | lainlives | oh |
| 18:50.37 | lainlives | just make a 90% transparent white svg |
| 18:50.47 | lainlives | thats all it is |
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| 18:51.30 | lainlives | the wallpaper is a slightly modified qml quadros by sergy roganov |
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| 18:53.28 | lainlives | i changed alot of timing in it |
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| 18:55.09 | lainlives | acerspyro: i also made an svg of bliss (xp wallpaper) where the sky changes color randomly, i made that one for my kid sister |
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| 19:50.00 | monod | How to uninstall KDE from Debian? I've installed it with these two commands: |
| 19:50.10 | monod | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.17 | monod | aptitude install kde-standard |
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| 21:09.15 | acerspyro | in Arch, what is the package that causes Apper to ask you for a password? |
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| 22:01.54 | acerspyro | Apper doesn't ask me for the root password when I try to install stuff, then fails because it didn't obtain the privileges. I am using Arch. Any ideas? |
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| 22:08.26 | dyrvere | acerspyro: polkit is the one that comes to mind here. |
| 22:08.36 | acerspyro | ok |
| 22:08.44 | acerspyro | I'll check that |
| 22:09.19 | dyrvere | acerspyro: how is the apper daemon, packagekit-qt2 and stuff? |
| 22:09.41 | acerspyro | I'm installing the full KDE package atm |
| 22:10.45 | dyrvere | or you can build octopi, since packagekits alpm backend is rather old and dead in the water for Arch. :p |
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| 22:11.52 | GrantK | Hi. has anongit.kde.org gone away, or been replaced? trying to build a couple of pkgs from my old notes -- host unknown. |
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