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| 01:14.17 | cordell | DocScrutinizer05: sounds like plasma-desktop crashed. |
| 01:14.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, possible |
| 01:14.47 | cordell | may have been akonadi that caused it to crash |
| 01:14.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hope for that, yeah |
| 01:15.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | the alternative would frighten me more |
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| 01:16.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I wonder why I suddenly had my old much nicer systray icons back |
| 01:16.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd like to force this effect ;-D |
| 01:17.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | this white on white is an assault |
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| 01:18.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | the one designing this stuff must have had black desktop |
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| 01:18.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/30/plasma-desktopCs1814.png |
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| 01:20.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | looks and feels like 1990 b&w crt. Atari or sth |
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| 01:21.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | first Macintosh |
| 01:21.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | but they both had better contrast |
| 01:22.45 | cordell | DocScrutinizer05: this might lead you to some results on forcing old style icons https://duckduckgo.com/?q=kde+4+systray+icons+force+old+style |
| 01:23.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
| 01:23.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ta! |
| 01:27.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>However, when I reported that back in the Beta 1 phase, I was told that "not only is it a purposeful design decision but has been met with pretty much overwhelmingly positive feedback."<< BWAHAHAHA |
| 01:27.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wnt to be allowed to do my *own* design decisions! |
| 01:28.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | KDE updates are not aboute the newest leetest wallpaper and button color |
| 01:29.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | "purposeful design decision" - ohmy! Apple marketing blabla |
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| 01:32.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | cordell: thanks again! very useful hint indeed :-) |
| 01:33.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | didn't even think it was a common issue, I always tend to blame my config inherited since KDE2 days when stuff like that happens |
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| 01:37.05 | funfool | I remember reading about kde 4.10<<<??? going into lts mode, is that true, what version is it? |
| 01:41.27 | funfool | am kinda curious how could make it work with a gentoo system. currently using 4.13.2, could mask the higher versions and stay with the lts, but how to get updates? |
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| 02:00.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw: Konversation - did any of you notice this weird behavior when channel list on left side has a scrollbar? the subwindow separator(?) right of it - the thing with 3 dots - switches the cursor to ->||<- and moving cmouse cursor left you cannot drag the scrollbar since that "resize" cursor and function stays until cursor actually reaches the white list area |
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| 02:03.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems somebody noticed that those separators are a tad slim to easily grab&drag them, and so that devel increased the hot area as soon as cursor touches the separator. Now the hot area covers anything next to separator |
| 02:04.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, impossible to make a screenshot of this |
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| 02:06.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | but you can see the behavior on all subwindow separators. mouse pointer changes into ->||<- and stays that way even when you move away the pointer from the separator quite a few pixel far |
| 02:09.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually for me it's exactly the width of the ->||<- cursor. When it activates it's between the two |, and you can pull it away until the left or right end of the -> resp <- leave the separator |
| 02:10.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | irritating |
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| 02:19.09 | cordell | hehe i see what you mean. i dont really notice it. |
| 02:19.26 | cordell | id screen shot it an report it as a bug. not sure where to file it though. |
| 02:19.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I usually don't notice it too |
| 02:20.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | it just regularly bites my a** when I move left from Konversation main window to the tabs list and want to scroll the tabs list |
| 02:20.35 | cordell | i think its a bug in qt or some kdelibs thingy |
| 02:21.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I always need to go 1cm further to left and then approach the scrollbar from left, to actually be able to pull it |
| 02:21.17 | cordell | or maybe its a "bug" as in a feature where its designed that way so that its easier to grab things from left to right. |
| 02:22.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, that's what I think, it's a feature of the ->||<- (and same for vertical movement) cursor |
| 02:22.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | works consitently for all vertical and horizontal separators |
| 02:24.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably usually it works just fine, omly when you got another widget close to the separator it starts to annoy |
| 02:25.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | right side moving cursor from userlist into main subwindow in konversation it's identical situation |
| 02:25.39 | cordell | ^^ is actually where i checked first |
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| 05:30.28 | tom-i | Hi all.. can anyone know how to setup this: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=121774 thank you ;) |
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| 07:07.55 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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| 07:09.52 | Guest072105 | I have a bug I would like to report but it seems to require me to open an account which I am not willing to do. It happenss every time. |
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| 07:11.09 | Guest072105 | whenever I close three or more konsole sessions by entering the session and typing exit all konsole instances crash and it askes me to send a bug report |
| 07:12.29 | Guest072105 | I have started to save the crash information, but it doesn't do any good since I apparently can't send a bug report. |
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| 07:13.00 | Guest072105 | I guess nobody is around |
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| 07:13.14 | Guest072105 | too bad |
| 07:14.12 | hateball | You can send a bugreport, you just wont |
| 07:14.42 | Guest072105 | I do not create accounts anywhere, I am not singling out kde |
| 07:14.56 | Guest072105 | but would like to help nevertheless. |
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| 07:16.02 | Guest072105 | I did plenty of testing to be sure I could reproduce the problem, but that was a waste of time it seems. |
| 07:17.49 | Guest072105 | what do you mean by that hateball |
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| 07:18.59 | hateball | Guest072105: I mean that you can send a bugreport it requires you create an account which you won't |
| 07:19.04 | hateball | +but |
| 07:19.15 | hateball | Nothing more :) |
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| 07:19.19 | Guest072105 | oh just a nasty crack. sorry I wasted my time. goodbye |
| 07:19.31 | hateball | Heh |
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| 09:35.10 | Gamoder__ | Hi everyone, in which package is konsole included in KDE for windows? |
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| 09:51.34 | BlaXpirit | Gamoder__, uhh maybe there isn't such a package |
| 09:51.48 | BlaXpirit | it should be called just konsole |
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| 09:51.57 | BlaXpirit | or kdebase |
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| 10:02.48 | BluesKaj | 'Morning |
| 10:03.06 | AndrzejL | Morning |
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| 10:47.40 | The_ManU_212 | hi |
| 10:48.56 | The_ManU_212 | okular stretches pdfs in y-axis a littlebit, i deleted all config files for okular, doesnt change anything, pdf displays non strectched with adobe reader on other os or same linux distribution x86_64 instead of i686 using okular |
| 10:49.23 | The_ManU_212 | pdfs fiels are ok, i can see it on fonts and circles |
| 10:49.50 | The_ManU_212 | firefox on the same machine e.g. displays it normal |
| 10:50.08 | The_ManU_212 | using okular 0.19.2 |
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| 10:50.25 | The_ManU_212 | on i686 |
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| 11:07.36 | lorderr | hi. im having some wierd issues after upgrading to kubuntu 14.04. The notification system seems not to work. sending simple messages with notify-send has no result. I would like to do some digging to find out more, but i dont know where to start. Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 11:19.38 | moviuro | lorderr: try with a new user |
| 11:19.56 | moviuro | also, ask on #kubuntu too |
| 11:20.02 | lorderr | same result. it is not user specific. |
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| 11:20.10 | moviuro | (or where ever their channel is) |
| 11:20.34 | moviuro | also, KDE version, notify-send version? |
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| 11:25.42 | lorderr | kde is 4.13 and notify-send 0.7.6. but thats beside the point, im pretty sure notify send is not the issue. There is no notifications at all, from any application. notify-send was just used as a test tool. i guess the issue kde/dbus somewhere. |
| 11:27.23 | moviuro | right click on th notification round -> Notification settings -> make sure both boxes are checked ? |
| 11:29.02 | lorderr | yes,yes.. did all the basics. maybe i should try to invoke the notification system via qdbus.. |
| 11:31.02 | lorderr | thanks for helping.. sometimes its nice to have bounce ideas around. |
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| 11:31.32 | lorderr | err.. yeah, you know what I mean. sorry for the messed up sentence structure. |
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| 11:40.39 | AndrzejL | The_ManU_212: is it kubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/questions/456876/okular-stretched-aspect-ratio-in-14-04 |
| 11:40.52 | The_ManU_212 | AndrzejL: archlinux |
| 11:41.05 | AndrzejL | Oh... |
| 11:41.09 | AndrzejL | Weird |
| 11:41.38 | The_ManU_212 | and its not that much, i know it was a bug, when i googled for it, should be fixed, same distribution, another arch/machine no stretching, same file |
| 11:41.59 | The_ManU_212 | both machines are up to date |
| 11:42.13 | The_ManU_212 | i allready deleted the okular config files |
| 11:42.19 | AndrzejL | I am looking for some info and it seems that okular renders vertical documents as horizontal? |
| 11:43.36 | AndrzejL | The_ManU_212: check if the documents are set to horizontal k? |
| 11:43.47 | The_ManU_212 | AndrzejL: how? |
| 11:44.11 | The_ManU_212 | its happening with every pdf, also with odler ones, which were ok last year |
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| 11:44.22 | The_ManU_212 | every other reader displays them ok |
| 11:44.46 | The_ManU_212 | i also displayed selfmade pdfs |
| 11:44.49 | AndrzejL | yes but its how it displays / renders them. If documents are | they are rendered as -- |
| 11:45.11 | AndrzejL | so basically thats how it gets stretched |
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| 11:46.08 | AndrzejL | and it seems to be fixed on the wide screen / external screen |
| 11:46.46 | AndrzejL | it had something to do with DPI of the screen patch |
| 11:48.11 | AndrzejL | thats all I figure out of this - you would have to file a bug I suppose... it demands the developpers attention / troubleshooting / info gathering - irc is way to volotile for that. |
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| 11:52.43 | AndrzejL | sorry if I seem to be "not willing to help" but the truth is that this is something we cannot help with. Removing config files is all what we could point you to - this is however something much bigger - its something in the code and the only way of getting it fixed it to get attention of the okular devs. |
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| 11:54.05 | AndrzejL | btw - since you are using arch maybe you could try makepkg this? https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&K=okular-git |
| 11:54.18 | AndrzejL | and see if the issue persists? |
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| 11:55.42 | AndrzejL | this way you will compile the latest version of the okular - this always helps with troubleshooting stuff... |
| 11:55.53 | AndrzejL | The_ManU_212: what do you think? |
| 11:56.15 | AndrzejL | I will package it just to see if it does not give me hustle |
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| 11:58.38 | AndrzejL | so far no hustle at all |
| 11:59.29 | AndrzejL | I will upload the package and link you to it when its all done |
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| 12:10.11 | AndrzejL | The_ManU_212: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=L8h1MtnP <<< build process |
| 12:11.02 | AndrzejL | The_ManU_212: and the package http://andrzejl.cyryl.net/okular-git-20140311-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz |
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| 12:12.06 | freeda | when i run "xdg-open mailto:blah", thunderbird is opened but a new message is not created. |
| 12:12.07 | AndrzejL | installation pacman -U ./okular-git-20140311-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz |
| 12:12.30 | freeda | is there some configuration i need to update to get it to work? |
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| 12:15.22 | freeda | also, updating the system settings/default applications/email client setting doesn't seem to take effect, even though i click the Apply button |
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| 12:15.34 | freeda | (i gave it a bogus email client just to see) |
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| 12:15.42 | freeda | how do i force it to take effect? |
| 12:17.02 | freeda | rdieter_work: any ideas? |
| 12:18.53 | freeda | anyone? |
| 12:18.57 | freeda | please help. |
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| 12:20.23 | AndrzejL | freeda: sorry - I have no idea how to help you... |
| 12:20.47 | AndrzejL | but I will check what your command does in my system |
| 12:21.27 | freeda | thank you |
| 12:21.35 | AndrzejL | [andrzejl@wishmasus ~]$ xdg-open mailto:johnny@bravo.com |
| 12:21.35 | AndrzejL | QWidget: Cannot create a QWidget when no GUI is being used |
| 12:21.35 | AndrzejL | /usr/bin/xdg-open: line 513: 6242 Aborted kde-open --noninteractive "$1" |
| 12:21.56 | freeda | that sounds hosed. |
| 12:22.04 | freeda | kde uses Qt? |
| 12:22.13 | AndrzejL | heh... :) it does sounds hosed |
| 12:22.19 | AndrzejL | kde uses qt indeed |
| 12:23.15 | freeda | well this is serious: kde does not correctly configure and/or honor xdg-open mailto commands??? |
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| 12:25.03 | skeithc | kde-open mailto:kek@yahoo.com works on mine. xdg-open is doomed. |
| 12:25.25 | freeda | kde-open doesn't work for me either. |
| 12:26.27 | skeithc | That's weird then. :/ |
| 12:26.30 | skeithc | What does it say? |
| 12:26.38 | rdieter | freeda: theres an open bug about, kde-open --non-interactive causing that kind of failure |
| 12:26.52 | rdieter | hunts for bug # |
| 12:26.55 | freeda | (process:10131): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed |
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| 12:27.48 | freeda | it opens thunderbird, but a new message is not actually opened for composition. |
| 12:27.52 | rdieter | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336117 |
| 12:29.30 | freeda | rdieter: thanks! |
| 12:29.39 | rdieter | skeithc: on kde, xdg-open *is* essentially kde-open (but with added --noninteractive option) |
| 12:29.45 | freeda | so it is an open bug, i.e., no workaround currently? |
| 12:30.30 | freeda | this is on fedora 19 - would upgrading to f20 help? |
| 12:30.34 | rdieter | freeda: remove use of --noninteractive from xdg-* scripts |
| 12:30.56 | rdieter | is probably a reasonable workaround for now |
| 12:32.39 | freeda | rdieter: did you mean to add --noninteractive to xdg script? |
| 12:32.51 | freeda | it looks like it currently just runs kde-open |
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| 12:33.24 | freeda | http://ur1.ca/hn1sh -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/114335/04131575 |
| 12:33.31 | BluesKaj | a launcher in the panel works here |
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| 12:34.07 | rdieter | freeda: the opposite, remove any --noninteractive option present |
| 12:34.28 | freeda | BluesKaj: it has to work via the xdg-open mechanism as my goal is to get mailto's working for a 3rd party app |
| 12:34.43 | freeda | which uses xdg-open |
| 12:35.15 | rdieter | freeda: oh, nvm, I was responding to AndrzejL's mention of crash |
| 12:35.20 | freeda | rdieter: ok, but i don't find the string "interactive" anywhere in the xdg-open script. |
| 12:36.16 | BluesKaj | leans something new everyday :) |
| 12:36.25 | AndrzejL | kde-open mailto:kek@yahoo.com works fine for me :) |
| 12:36.34 | rdieter | freeda: --noninteractive isn't present in fedora's packaging (yet), it was only very recently added to xdg-utils upstream |
| 12:37.38 | rdieter | hrm, kde-open launches kmail for me, despite having set thunderbird in sysetmsettings->default applications :(, so I cant verify |
| 12:38.19 | t4nk928 | Hi, I have a severe problem with kde on arch linux. The damn kmix sound level sliders are dependent on the master channel. Example: if I move the slider of vlc to 100% the slider of the master moves to 100% too. If I move the master slider back every other channel does decrease too. I hate, hate, hate this behavior ! How do I change this ? The sliders shall not be chained to the master slider ! |
| 12:38.29 | freeda | rdieter: interesting. |
| 12:39.24 | freeda | yeah, that's what i was seeing too - the systemsettings/default applications/email client didn't seem to update how xdg-open runs |
| 12:39.24 | rdieter | t4nk928: I believe what you're describing is the pulseaudio flat volume feature, if you don't want it, set in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf : flat volumes = no |
| 12:39.36 | rdieter | freeda: or kde-open... |
| 12:39.48 | freeda | yeah, kde-open isn't working EITHER. |
| 12:39.54 | BluesKaj | kde-open launches thunderbird here, probly because I don't have kmail configured |
| 12:39.55 | freeda | exact same behavior |
| 12:40.05 | AndrzejL | t4nk928: its not kde issue just setup the sound system in vlc properly... |
| 12:40.07 | rdieter | freeda: so thats the real issue |
| 12:40.15 | freeda | (i get the glib warning and it only opens thunderbird without composing a new email) |
| 12:40.19 | freeda | ok, right. |
| 12:40.36 | AndrzejL | you should have options to use software volume control or not - one of them disables "global" volumes |
| 12:40.38 | freeda | is there a way to peer inside kde-open to see what it's doing? |
| 12:41.40 | freeda | or what? |
| 12:41.48 | freeda | is this a bug or a configuration error? |
| 12:42.03 | rdieter | freeda: definitely a bug somewhere |
| 12:42.28 | t4nk928 | rdieter: thx, I hope that this will prevent this audio madness. |
| 12:42.35 | freeda | ok |
| 12:42.39 | freeda | thanks rdieter |
| 12:42.49 | freeda | any other ideas before i go? |
| 12:43.10 | AndrzejL | rdieter: thats weird - your systemsettings is choosing kmail even tho You chose to open thunderbird? Did You clicked on the ... button and pointed it to Internet > Thunderbird or just typed in thunderbird? :) |
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| 12:43.20 | rdieter | AndrzejL: typed in |
| 12:43.28 | AndrzejL | try the ... button |
| 12:43.35 | rdieter | ok |
| 12:43.46 | BluesKaj | t4nk928, check your multimedia audio/video hardware settings in system settings |
| 12:43.51 | AndrzejL | also try doing that with dbus-launch systemsettings from terminal. |
| 12:44.04 | rdieter | AndrzejL: ah, that substitutes, thunderbird %u |
| 12:44.22 | AndrzejL | sometimes the lack of dbus-launch can cause systemsettings to loose its marbles ;D |
| 12:44.31 | rdieter | rats, still runs kmail, wtf |
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| 12:44.33 | AndrzejL | try it now - is it working? |
| 12:44.35 | AndrzejL | oh... |
| 12:44.51 | AndrzejL | thats never a good sign. |
| 12:45.06 | freeda | do you have to log out and back in for these settings to update? |
| 12:45.28 | freeda | i'm trying that. |
| 12:45.57 | AndrzejL | no need - I just changed it without logging out / back in |
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| 12:46.56 | AndrzejL | so the xdg bit fails but the kde-open bit works exactly as planned... weird huh? :D |
| 12:47.47 | rdieter | AndrzejL: both behave the same for me |
| 12:47.54 | rdieter | and apparently freeda too |
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| 12:48.53 | rdieter | heh, I just tried running, xdg-settings set default-url-scheme-handler mailto thunderbird.desktop |
| 12:49.13 | rdieter | and my mimeapps.lst ends up containing: x-scheme-handler/mailto=KMail2.desktop;thunderbird.desktop; |
| 12:49.27 | rdieter | kmail really wants precedence for some reason |
| 12:50.45 | AndrzejL | :D |
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| 13:01.36 | The_ManU_212 | AndrzejL: and there it is solved? why does it work on another machine? |
| 13:02.34 | rdieter | AndrzejL: related, just reverted the use of --noninteractive in xdg-utils, see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16295 |
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| 13:07.07 | AndrzejL | The_ManU_212: different machines / architectured. And NO I don't know if its solved. I made the package for you for testing purposes. You want it - You use it. You can then verify if the package you're using now is hosed or if the bug persists in the latest code. have fun. |
| 13:07.40 | AndrzejL | rdieter: checking |
| 13:07.48 | The_ManU_212 | AndrzejL: thx |
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| 13:08.47 | AndrzejL | you're welcome |
| 13:12.05 | AndrzejL | rdieter: so basically next release will have it reverted? |
| 13:12.56 | AndrzejL | now I have a more "burning" issue (pun intended) iso files are seen as txt files are are being opened in the kwrite instead of k3b ;D |
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| 13:13.32 | AndrzejL | even tho my systemsettings is set to use k3b in file associations ;D |
| 13:14.00 | rdieter | AndrzejL: yes |
| 13:14.20 | AndrzejL | sweet |
| 13:14.21 | rdieter | (unless kdelibs/kde-open gets fixed, then I'll put it back) |
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| 13:15.30 | AndrzejL | any idea about the messed up file association? |
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| 13:24.03 | yates | this is freeda. |
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| 13:25.00 | AndrzejL | personality issues? :D |
| 13:25.21 | yates | i just want to say this bug (xdg-open/kde-open not working for mailto: urls) needs to be addressed |
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| 13:26.01 | yates | i rewrote my application to skip all that crap and just run thunderbird directly, but this kind of bandaid shouldn't be necessary. |
| 13:26.36 | yates | if lxde can get it right, why can't kde? |
| 13:26.52 | yates | (it ran fine using the xdg-open technique on my other system) |
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| 13:35.47 | AndrzejL | Wow. Much problems. Such issue. WOW! :D |
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| 13:38.37 | skeithc | Lol. One can issue a bug report anyway. |
| 13:40.41 | AndrzejL | Found the culprit with the iso files https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1431545#p1431545 |
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| 13:54.07 | rdieter | yates: this fixed it for me, xdg-settings set default-url-scheme-handler mailto mozilla-thunderbird.desktop |
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| 13:57.11 | rdieter | AndrzejL: I've been having... disagreements... with shared-mime-info recently too :-/ (mine is http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70366 ) |
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| 14:03.04 | AndrzejL | think I might just downgrade it ;D |
| 14:04.00 | AndrzejL | oh oh... ;D |
| 14:04.09 | AndrzejL | I have cleared cache lately ;D |
| 14:06.20 | AndrzejL | thank cat for arm... http://seblu.net/a/arm/packages/s/shared-mime-info/ |
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| 14:37.24 | ovrflw0x | is there a way to run xrandr script to run even before pre-KDE startup, so that i don't see the low resolution mouse cursor at startup!? |
| 14:37.43 | ovrflw0x | i'm using external monitor attached to laptop |
| 14:37.49 | ovrflw0x | via displayport |
| 14:37.49 | karthikp | ovrflw0x: So, basically an xorg.conf file? |
| 14:38.07 | ovrflw0x | karthikp: is there any better way? |
| 14:38.22 | ovrflw0x | i've heard about KMS setting but not enough docs found |
| 14:38.33 | rdieter | ovrflw0x: ~/.kde/env/*.sh shell snippets get sourced early in kde session startup |
| 14:38.39 | karthikp | What drivers are you using? |
| 14:38.59 | ovrflw0x | radeon discrete + intel integrated |
| 14:38.59 | karthikp | The last I checked nvidia (the binary blob drivers) didn't really support it. |
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| 14:39.23 | ovrflw0x | rdieter: will it be graceful or a hack? |
| 14:39.25 | karthikp | I know the nouveau drivers and intel drivers do. |
| 14:39.42 | rdieter | ovrflw0x: matter of opinion |
| 14:40.08 | rdieter | ideally, this would get setup properly even before kde starts though (so not really a kde issue) |
| 14:40.50 | ovrflw0x | rdieter: that' called "pre-KDEstartup" i already have script in there for xrandr |
| 14:40.57 | ovrflw0x | that's* |
| 14:41.12 | ovrflw0x | i want the script to execute even before that |
| 14:41.30 | rdieter | ok, then you're asking in the wrong place, imo. that's before kde even starts |
| 14:41.36 | rdieter | ask your distro |
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| 14:43.57 | asterismo | hi people |
| 14:44.04 | asterismo | i need help with something |
| 14:44.29 | asterismo | when i hit ALT+F2 nothing happens... is some daemon died or something? |
| 14:44.44 | jgrulich | asterismo: probably krunner is not running |
| 14:45.05 | asterismo | and after 1 minute the ALT+F2 rectangle appears on top of the screen but blank inside... |
| 14:45.06 | karthikp | asterismo: Right click on the desktop and choose run command. |
| 14:45.18 | karthikp | Oh. That's odd. |
| 14:45.33 | asterismo | karthikp: Run command: nothing happens |
| 14:45.40 | karthikp | Maybe restart krunner and see if that fixes things? |
| 14:45.51 | karthikp | kquitapp krunner and then launch krunner. |
| 14:45.55 | asterismo | how do i do that? |
| 14:46.04 | karthikp | Or, killall krunner and then launch it. |
| 14:46.34 | asterismo | i got nepomuk services eating the 100% of CPU since boot up 10 minutes ago |
| 14:47.00 | karthikp | Oh, so that might be what's causing it to be so sluggish... |
| 14:47.09 | asterismo | i have a 8-core CPU |
| 14:47.11 | karthikp | Is it nepomuk or baloo? |
| 14:47.30 | asterismo | nepomuk |
| 14:48.10 | karthikp | You can pause the indexing, or stop it entirely and I'm trying to remember the command for nepomuk... |
| 14:48.49 | asterismo | but everything goes very smooth, except the ALT+F2 bar does not appear |
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| 14:49.03 | karthikp | How about just going to system settings > desktop search and pause or disable indexing why you sort out the krunner issue? |
| 14:49.13 | asterismo | not it appears with the content, the text input and all... but after 30 seconds or 1 min |
| 14:49.16 | karthikp | *while |
| 14:50.28 | asterismo | ok |
| 14:50.30 | asterismo | stopped |
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| 14:50.32 | asterismo | and killed |
| 14:50.46 | asterismo | but no A+F2 |
| 14:50.56 | asterismo | that is weird |
| 14:50.58 | karthikp | Right click and run command to launch it again. |
| 14:52.03 | asterismo | nothing happens |
| 14:52.28 | asterismo | on right click and runn command |
| 14:52.43 | karthikp | Do you see krunner running in the system monitor? |
| 14:53.09 | asterismo | wait |
| 14:53.19 | asterismo | i killall krunner |
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| 14:53.23 | asterismo | minimize all |
| 14:53.33 | karthikp | That ought to have killed it. |
| 14:53.40 | asterismo | right click |
| 14:53.43 | asterismo | runn command |
| 14:53.50 | asterismo | and nothing happens for 30 seconds |
| 14:54.06 | asterismo | after the ALT+F2 dialog appears |
| 14:54.14 | karthikp | Hmm, so it wasn't the indexer at all. |
| 14:54.30 | karthikp | Something's borked with krunner... |
| 14:54.49 | asterismo | my ps aux | grep krunner shows |
| 14:54.51 | asterismo | santiago 5265 5.3 0.3 422980 62584 ? Sl 11:52 0:04 /usr/bin/krunner |
| 14:55.07 | asterismo | should i reinstall it? |
| 14:55.21 | asterismo | but is useless this way |
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| 14:55.39 | karthikp | Try wiping its configuration. |
| 14:55.43 | karthikp | Kill it first. |
| 14:55.56 | karthikp | Then delete this file: ~/.kde4/share/config/krunnerrc |
| 14:56.18 | asterismo | i'm on it |
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| 14:56.44 | asterismo | it says file does not exist |
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| 14:57.07 | asterismo | i'm running Debian 7 stable (Wheezy) with stock KDE 4.8.4 |
| 14:57.08 | karthikp | Perhaps your distro stores the kde directory in ~/.kde instead of ~/.kde4? |
| 14:57.24 | karthikp | Wow. That's... sta(b)le. :) |
| 14:57.29 | asterismo | :) |
| 14:57.30 | asterismo | yes |
| 14:57.33 | asterismo | my bad |
| 14:57.47 | asterismo | it's a stab |
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| 14:58.15 | karthikp | Yup. If this doesn't fix it, I think we should disable a bunch of runners and see if one of them is causing this delay. |
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| 14:59.17 | asterismo | what runners? |
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| 14:59.36 | asterismo | i can repeat the process |
| 14:59.50 | karthikp | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.50 | asterismo | would yo recommend an upgrade to testing? |
| 15:00.04 | asterismo | oh, ok |
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| 15:00.32 | karthikp | I think that's a bigger decision. For now, it's just krunner misbehaving, so we should be able to fix it. We may need to disable a runner or two. |
| 15:00.34 | asterismo | sometimes i have the notice windows that kactivity manager has closed unexpectedly... so |
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| 15:00.47 | asterismo | i don't remember if this time it crashed too, or not |
| 15:00.55 | asterismo | maybe is that? or related? |
| 15:01.25 | karthikp | I've seen that happen if one runs out of RAM... |
| 15:01.52 | karthikp | The machine just randomly kills processes to free up some RAM. |
| 15:02.38 | kaan | is there a way for some notifications to just show up and dissappear and not stay in the tray? |
| 15:02.50 | karthikp | Anyways, for now, try configuring krunner. Click on the spanner to open the krunner's configuration and for starters, uncheck most of the runners. Say, leave only the applications runner. |
| 15:03.05 | karthikp | kaan: They disappear after a while. |
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| 15:03.56 | asterismo | i have 16GB of RAM, i386 kernel-pae |
| 15:04.00 | asterismo | i'll try that |
| 15:04.24 | kaan | karthikp: They do stack under notifications icon, I have to dismiss them manually. I don't want that to happen with some apps like spotify |
| 15:05.20 | karthikp | The config only allows you to pick/unpick applications (all applications) and file transfer notifications for now. |
| 15:05.38 | karthikp | But a more fine-grained application selection could be a valid wishlist. |
| 15:06.00 | karthikp | Ideally, though, this ought to be configured at the application level, if possible. |
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| 15:06.25 | karthikp | Does spotify let you tell it to not notify you about some or all events? |
| 15:07.04 | asterismo | karthikp: i disabled most of them and now it works perfectly |
| 15:07.18 | asterismo | so i should find out which one of them is slowing the thing |
| 15:07.28 | karthikp | Cool. If you're jobless, you can turn them on one after another and find which one's causing the problem. |
| 15:07.36 | karthikp | Yeah, pretty much. |
| 15:07.37 | asterismo | i'l came up when i have something |
| 15:07.48 | kaan | karthikp: unfortunately no, wish there was a setting for notifications to show but not stay in the tray |
| 15:07.49 | karthikp | Likely candidates are web-based runners, the desktop search runner, etc. |
| 15:08.42 | karthikp | kaan: I assure you they disappear after a while. But you'll have to live with them hanging around before that. |
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| 15:09.46 | kaan | karthikp: I think I couldn't explain myself, they do dissappear but if I don't press X before that they stay in the tray notification with a number of total notifications. |
| 15:10.11 | karthikp | They will disappear after a few minutes, even if you don't dismiss them. |
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| 15:10.38 | karthikp | Amarok pops a notification on each song change. I don't bother with dismissing them. They disappear after a while of their own accord. |
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| 15:11.17 | kaan | karthikp: ah ok, thhanks |
| 15:13.20 | nemysis | hello i not have in KDE 4.11.5 in systray keyboard swithcher and locale are installed and enabled |
| 15:14.29 | karthikp | nemysis: The keyboard switcher will show if you have more than one layout. Unless you select the "Show for single layout" option. |
| 15:15.01 | nemysis | karthikp, where to find these option |
| 15:15.31 | nemysis | i use for default keyboard in openSUSE in YaST German Swiss |
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| 15:16.20 | karthikp | alt+f2 > keyboard > Layouts. Or system settings > input devices > keyboard > layouts. It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/fDDyKGL.png |
| 15:17.27 | nemysis | i have found and use default not have enabled show single layout |
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| 15:19.37 | nemysis | i have seen when use use only single layout then see ch in systray when use only show label not see indicator |
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| 15:20.48 | karthikp | nemysis: Do you mean the flag? |
| 15:22.48 | nemysis | yes i mean flag and systray icon not exist, only when try to change layouts get some but not good |
| 15:23.38 | karthikp | Hmm, I don't know which package brings those icons, unfortunately. Sorry. |
| 15:23.54 | nemysis | yes i think must some install but what |
| 15:24.41 | nemysis | not only that i not see icons too not see self in systray characters to change keyboard |
| 15:24.42 | karthikp | Well, I gotta run. Stick around and someone might know which package to install to have keyboard layout indicator icons show up in the system tray. |
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| 15:25.01 | nemysis | karthikp, thanks |
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| 15:30.50 | nemysis | and i have icons when say use show for single layout, but for multi not see anything |
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| 15:45.56 | nemysis | now have added various layouts for keyboard and have now flags and works switch keyboard good, thanks |
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| 16:56.08 | Alumin | so, not a big deal, but...people's contact pictures have stopped showing up in KMail |
| 16:56.59 | Alumin | you know, in the right-hand side of the headers. Although, funny enough, I just saw a really old message that someone forwarded, and the "encapsulated message" showed the person's picture but the "outer" message didn't |
| 16:57.15 | Alumin | (different contact) |
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| 16:58.19 | Alumin | huh...maybe it's specific to the contact...'cause I just found a (different) old email from the "encapsulated" guy and his picture does show up |
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| 17:13.39 | okme | a new surprise ...now with NetworkManager - the applet in KDE shows nothing connected eventhough I'm online and how do I disconnect now? Where is the disconnect button? 'service network restart' fixed nothing. |
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| 17:18.54 | BluesKaj | okme, open the panel cashew and add widgets type network and choose network management |
| 17:19.53 | jgrulich | okme: what version of the applet do you have? |
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| 17:53.00 | ovrflw0x | where can i get some really cool minimize/maximize effects for KWIN? |
| 17:53.49 | ovrflw0x | also close/open |
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| 17:55.39 | ovrflw0x | anyone? |
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| 18:01.36 | ovrflw0x | nvm |
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| 18:13.44 | crudson | Is there a kwin shortcut to shrink a window to its smallest size? Can't seem to find something that fits. |
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| 18:53.46 | Safa_[A_boy] | Hello. How can I enable ballo to search in a specific directory? |
| 18:54.10 | Safa_[A_boy] | to index* |
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| 19:14.03 | rdieter | Safa_[A_boy]: baloo currently (by default) enables all of $HOME, and allows blacklisting/disabling folders. is this specific directory in $HOME or not? |
| 19:14.41 | Safa_[A_boy] | Not in $HOME. |
| 19:14.51 | Safa_[A_boy] | In my external hard disk |
| 19:14.54 | rdieter | (its possible to whitelist folders, but not in the UI) |
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| 19:15.50 | rdieter | Safa_[A_boy]: you could try editing ~/.kde/share/config/baloofilerc, [General] section, add folders[$e]=/path/to/disk/ |
| 19:16.09 | Safa_[A_boy] | mmm |
| 19:16.11 | Safa_[A_boy] | OK :) |
| 19:16.13 | rdieter | and then, balooctl restart |
| 19:16.18 | rdieter | see if that works |
| 19:19.58 | Safa_[A_boy] | rdieter: When I enable the indexing, the file got changed and my path go away |
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| 19:22.19 | rdieter | the path goes away where? |
| 19:22.35 | rdieter | (hint: it wont show in the UI @ systemsettings->desktop search) |
| 19:22.55 | rdieter | you may have to first, balooctl stop; edit file; balooctl start |
| 19:23.07 | Safa_[A_boy] | :\ |
| 19:23.37 | Safa_[A_boy] | "Baloo File Indexing has been disabled" |
| 19:23.46 | Safa_[A_boy] | "baloo_file(7756): Communication problem with "baloo_file" , it probably crashed. " |
| 19:24.18 | Safa_[A_boy] | It wont show because there is no place for it |
| 19:24.44 | rdieter | are you editing baloofilerc ? |
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| 19:25.01 | rdieter | sorry, have to go now |
| 19:25.01 | Safa_[A_boy] | yes, as you said |
| 19:25.07 | Safa_[A_boy] | Ok bb :) |
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| 21:03.31 | hassoon | the virtual desktops' pager's cube-animation-switching does't work, it's just an instant ugly switching, i wonder what's up |
| 21:03.37 | hassoon | i use debian wheezy kde |
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| 21:09.26 | bootkiller | hassoon: that's probably because you set animation speed to instant, you can barely see it that way, either lower the animation speed or don't use desktop cube. |
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| 21:12.23 | hassoon | bootkiller: well i'm thinking about the latter, the fact that it is not working, i wanna fix that stupid behavior |
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| 21:15.36 | bootkiller | hassoon: the most seamless transition is fade desktop, that's the one I use. Go to the System Settings, Dektop Effects, general tab and tinker with it, see what works best for you... |
| 21:16.40 | hassoon | bootkiller: Sir, the thing here is that the cube-animation isn't working in this debian wheezy kde, while it is working in fedora 20 kde, in the same said machine |
| 21:17.13 | hassoon | *. |
| 21:17.39 | bootkiller | is it activated on the effects list? |
| 21:17.45 | hassoon | bootkiller: Yes. |
| 21:18.17 | hassoon | bootkiller: http://i.imgur.com/5I5dRzk.png |
| 21:18.56 | bootkiller | does it work when you press ctrl+F11 |
| 21:19.29 | hassoon | bootkiller: Yet this is the configuration menu of the cube-animation option itself http://i.imgur.com/FIJX1oq.png |
| 21:19.45 | hassoon | bootkiller: It doesn't. |
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| 21:23.31 | bootkiller | strange, are you shure you have composition enabled? |
| 21:25.04 | lainlives | thought id say this again, i /love/ kde, people who say its not very customizable are liars |
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| 22:09.35 | hassoon | bootkiller: Sure thing, the settings are set like fedora's ones, but nothing is working |
| 22:14.40 | bootkiller | hassoon: see if really have direct rendering on with command: cat ~/.xsession-errors | grep "Direct rendering" |
| 22:14.48 | bootkiller | it should say yes |
| 22:19.43 | hassoon | bootkiller: sure, it's enabled http://i.imgur.com/84vIJUd.png |
| 22:21.22 | hassoon | bootkiller: the graphical performances are generally good, an example of that is the smoothness and easiness that Stellarium software run with. |
| 22:21.34 | hassoon | *runs* |
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| 22:23.21 | moviuro | could someone verify: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336916 ? |
| 22:23.35 | bootkiller | hassoon: not sure what's going on, use Alt+Shift+F12 to toggle between composition on/off, make sure it is on, and check if you have the desktop cube. |
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| 22:43.43 | disorder20 | hello |
| 22:44.00 | disorder20 | I posted the same question some days ago: |
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| 22:44.13 | disorder20 | I'm trying to make a custom shirtcut in kde using sudo |
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| 22:44.33 | disorder20 | however it doesn't work, so I'm using kdesu |
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| 22:44.48 | disorder20 | which works, but it's slow, and keeps asking for the password |
| 22:44.53 | disorder20 | are there alternatives? |
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| 22:48.52 | moviuro | disorder20: what do you want exactly? |
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| 22:50.14 | disorder20 | moviuro: I need to level up and down the brightness of the display |
| 22:50.27 | moviuro | disorder20: wut? |
| 22:50.27 | disorder20 | since the normal way to do it is bugged |
| 22:50.34 | moviuro | using acpid? |
| 22:50.37 | disorder20 | I've made a script the correctly does it |
| 22:51.04 | moviuro | just add the commands you are allowed to issue in /etc/sudoers |
| 22:51.15 | disorder20 | it's added to sudo actually |
| 22:51.28 | moviuro | paste the line |
| 22:51.31 | moviuro | plz |
| 22:51.31 | disorder20 | when I run "sudo brightup" from console it works without password |
| 22:51.39 | moviuro | and the relevant line of the script too |
| 22:51.50 | moviuro | :o |
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| 22:52.38 | disorder20 | http://pastebin.com/E4apJV2E |
| 22:53.13 | disorder20 | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/07/01/plasma-desktopw32615.png |
| 22:54.46 | moviuro | disorder20: you should really try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acpid#Enabling_backlight_control before doing what you do atm |
| 22:55.58 | disorder20 | ok thx |
| 22:56.25 | disorder20 | echo $(($(< $bl_dev/brightness) - $step)) >$bl_dev/brightness;; |
| 22:56.26 | disorder20 | wow |
| 22:56.34 | disorder20 | I'll never learn how to code bash properly |
| 22:57.53 | moviuro | and that will (normally, if disabled in KDE) intercept the bright+ and bright- keys from your keyboard |
| 22:57.54 | disorder20 | yeah the problem is that I don't have /etc/acpi in my system |
| 22:58.02 | moviuro | :o |
| 22:58.21 | moviuro | hmmm, well IDK then, sorry |
| 22:58.28 | moviuro | try installing acpi?... |
| 22:58.38 | moviuro | is going to bed |
| 22:58.45 | moviuro | good luck, disorder20 |
| 22:58.46 | disorder20 | yeah |
| 22:58.49 | disorder20 | thanks |
| 22:58.51 | disorder20 | good nigh |
| 22:58.52 | disorder20 | t |
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| 23:18.54 | disorder20 | moviuro: yeah the acpid method worked! |
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| 23:57.49 | chrisrock | hi |
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