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| 02:58.24 | octocpp | I have clicking disabled on my touchpad, but I can click with my left mouse button and do the gesture right? |
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| 07:51.46 | amichair | hi, on Kubuntu 14.04 with KDE 4.13.2, The logout/shutdown/restart dialogs don't appear when selecting them from the K menu. Also "qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.logout 0 0 0" does nothing (I read that somewhere). How can I do a gracefull shutdown/restart? Any workaround? |
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| 08:01.02 | eklavya | hi |
| 08:01.14 | eklavya | kde 5 is going to be an awesome release |
| 08:01.18 | eklavya | congratulations guys |
| 08:01.24 | eklavya | and thanks for the hard work |
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| 08:01.45 | eklavya | I have been looking for a touch friendly env in linux for a while |
| 08:02.00 | eklavya | plasma 5 seems to be advertising that |
| 08:02.20 | eklavya | since I have a tablet/laptop hybrid (hp x2) |
| 08:02.25 | osfd | Hi there. How do you make konqueror silent (no notification) when you only use konqueror (not the full desktop) ? |
| 08:02.32 | eklavya | I thought I would give it a try |
| 08:02.37 | osfd | I use konqueror 4.8.x |
| 08:02.52 | eklavya | but no changes in plasma when I disconnect the keyboard dock |
| 08:03.25 | eklavya | I had not been able to try out plasma active on this device as all the images for kubuntu active are 32 bit |
| 08:03.45 | eklavya | which my UEFI enabled laptop (no way to turn it off) can't boot |
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| 08:04.02 | eklavya | the same problem came while trying out the latest neon 5 isos |
| 08:04.21 | eklavya | in too many blogs people say there are no linux tablets |
| 08:04.33 | eklavya | but thanks to the whole windows 8 drive to have touch laptops |
| 08:04.53 | eklavya | there is no shortage of cheap x86 tablets in the market |
| 08:05.12 | eklavya | I want to help test the new plasma on it |
| 08:05.21 | eklavya | any pointers are welcome |
| 08:05.49 | eklavya | also if someone knows why we only have 32 bit isos for all the stuff please tell me |
| 08:06.16 | valorie | eklavya: there is #active if you find no help here |
| 08:06.36 | eklavya | valorie, thanks :) I will post it there as well |
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| 09:57.32 | bl4ckdu5t | How can I check for my KDE version? |
| 09:58.03 | Sho_ | System Settings -> Help -> "About System Settings" |
| 09:58.11 | bl4ckdu5t | Thanks Sho_ |
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| 10:00.05 | bl4ckdu5t | Sho_: I'm trying to change my K-menu icon, how can I go about this? |
| 10:00.22 | Sho_ | bl4ckdu5t: Right-click it -> settings |
| 10:03.45 | bl4ckdu5t | Sho_: I right-clicked settings in the menu and I got options like "Add to Favorite", Add to Panel, Uninstall |
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| 10:05.15 | Jucato | you should right-click on the K-Menu icon itself |
| 10:05.19 | Sho_ | bl4ckdu5t: no right-click the kmenu icon |
| 10:05.58 | Jucato | right-click on the K Menu icon -> Edit Application Launcher Settings |
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| 10:06.10 | Jucato | or whatever it is. you'll have the option to change the icon |
| 10:06.39 | bl4ckdu5t | yea found it thanks |
| 10:08.13 | bl4ckdu5t | I guess we don't see changes till we restart the machine? |
| 10:09.11 | Sho_ | no, it should be immediate |
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| 10:09.34 | bl4ckdu5t | I get it on hover of the icon |
| 10:09.46 | bl4ckdu5t | but the actual icon is till the K-menu |
| 10:10.09 | Sho_ | sounds like a bug |
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| 10:10.35 | bl4ckdu5t | I should restart my machine then. To be sure it's fine |
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| 10:12.04 | Sho_ | just restarting plasma-desktop would be enough probably |
| 10:12.37 | bl4ckdu5t | how? /etc/init.d/plasma-desktop restart ? |
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| 10:16.11 | Sho_ | bl4ckdu5t: no, kquitapp plasma-desktop (this will cause your panel and desktop to disappear) followed by plasma-desktop |
| 10:17.16 | bl4ckdu5t | ok thanks Sho_ |
| 10:17.25 | e1z0 | plasma-desktop is very unstable |
| 10:17.27 | e1z0 | :| |
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| 10:19.06 | bl4ckdu5t | oops! Still didn't show |
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| 10:19.56 | bl4ckdu5t | A gnome user went on an argument with me that Gnome is lighter than KDE and from my experience, KDE seems lighter. What's the general say about this? |
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| 10:20.22 | bl4ckdu5t | Am I wrong? Is KDE heavier ? |
| 10:20.52 | e1z0 | both are heavy |
| 10:21.10 | e1z0 | like a rpg |
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| 10:22.04 | e1z0 | we need to take kde2 and rewrite it using qt5 |
| 10:22.31 | bl4ckdu5t | Why does it matter. Since we're on kde4 |
| 10:22.45 | bl4ckdu5t | I think it's kde4 that needs the change :/ |
| 10:23.07 | bl4ckdu5t | if it's not already using qt5 |
| 10:23.29 | Sho_ | kde4 uses qt4 |
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| 10:30.49 | bl4ckdu5t | In some articles, I see restart kde, does this means restart your PC? |
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| 10:31.02 | Sho_ | no |
| 10:31.06 | Sho_ | logout/login probably |
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| 10:32.15 | bl4ckdu5t | ok |
| 10:33.09 | bl4ckdu5t | Then uhm I downloaded a new theme for login but I can't see it in my them list |
| 10:33.29 | bl4ckdu5t | *theme |
| 10:34.19 | bl4ckdu5t | I'm sorry I'm bothering you Sho_ . I'm new to KDE |
| 10:34.50 | Sho_ | bl4ckdu5t: not a bother at all, no problem |
| 10:35.02 | Sho_ | bl4ckdu5t: unfortunately I don't really know anything about login themes though :( |
| 10:35.13 | Sho_ | i'm more into the stuff after login |
| 10:35.15 | Sho_ | :) |
| 10:35.46 | bl4ckdu5t | ok |
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| 10:44.15 | hussam | hi, if i want to file a bug report for the clock kcm (date and time kde control module), which product do I choose? |
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| 10:45.36 | hussam | nevermind, found it. systemsettings -> kcm_clock |
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| 11:03.23 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
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| 11:24.58 | Safa_[A_boy] | Is there anyway to use more than one dictionary in one time? Some of my files have texts in two languages... |
| 11:25.34 | penguin42 | (framework 5) How do I add an application icon to the panel - the 'add to panel' on the launcher seems to have gone |
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| 11:33.07 | Sho_ | penguin42: the alternative "Application Menu" launcher has those features |
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| 11:42.42 | penguin42 | Sho_: Thanks, I'll have a look for it |
| 11:42.54 | Sho_ | it's in the same module as kickoff |
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| 11:45.40 | penguin42 | Sho_: Excellent; it does - one small bug - I now have something on the panel I can click and it runs firefox, but there again there's just a gap not actually an icon |
| 11:46.18 | Sho_ | penguin42: hmm not sure tbh, i did the very same with my firefox and it worked (and i wrote the application menu) |
| 11:46.41 | penguin42 | Sho_: Thanks, yes it's the firefox I just did it with :-) |
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| 11:57.46 | bl4ckdu5t | Sho_: The menu icon I'd set was picked from an image in my ~/Downloads |
| 11:57.58 | bl4ckdu5t | Does deleting it from there affect the icon |
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| 11:58.13 | bl4ckdu5t | or it's being stored somewhere else to be called as menu icon |
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| 12:45.01 | amichair | hi, on Kubuntu 14.04 with KDE 4.13.2, The logout/shutdown/restart dialogs don't appear when selecting them from the K menu. Also "qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.logout 0 0 0" does nothing (I read that somewhere). How can I do a gracefull shutdown/restart? Any workaround? |
| 12:46.19 | rdieter_work | amichair: kquitapp ksmserver, if that doesn't work, killall ksmserver |
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| 12:47.05 | amichair | rdieter_work: will that do a graceful shutdown or kill everything abruptly? also, is this a known bug? |
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| 12:47.29 | rdieter_work | it's less graceful than usual, if that's what you mean |
| 12:48.07 | amichair | rdieter_work: I mean that all apps etc. will close properly, and nothing will be killed, lose data, or might get corrupted |
| 12:48.14 | rdieter_work | yes, it's a known bug that ksmserver sometimes fails to finish autostart (and it won't process shutdown/restart until that first thing is done) |
| 12:48.26 | rdieter_work | finds bug |
| 12:48.56 | rdieter_work | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328571 |
| 12:49.16 | amichair | rdieter_work: it seems to happen all the time in the past few weeks, even after fresh restart. Is there anything I should check? or do the devs know exactly what's going on, but just didn't get around to fixing it yet? |
| 12:49.37 | rdieter_work | the exact cause is unknown |
| 12:50.06 | rdieter_work | though there is one workaround mentioned in the bug that seems to help in many cases (QT_NO_GLIB=1) |
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| 12:57.33 | menace | hi, i cannot reach the applet for org.kde.notifications with qt scripting and the systemtray.. but i want to set a certain configuration via qt script. any idea how to do that? |
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| 13:20.14 | feeruzy | :)) |
| 13:21.08 | Safa_[A_boy] | Is there anyway to use more than one dictionary in one time? Some of my files have texts in two languages... |
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| 13:36.55 | Jucato | rebsadran: System Settings -> Desktop Effects -> All Effects tab, scroll down to Present Windows, click on wrench icon for settings and play around with the Appearance Layout settings |
| 13:37.20 | Jucato | rebsadran: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/07/21/plasma-desktopYM1484.png |
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| 13:39.40 | Jucato | Safa_[A_boy]: what program are you referring to? |
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| 13:49.34 | rebsadran | Jucato: Awesome, it did the trick! by any chance do you know how can I somehow customize Desktop Switch On-Screen Display? |
| 13:49.53 | Safa_[A_boy] | Jucato: Kate for example |
| 13:50.36 | Jucato | rebsadran: no sorry |
| 13:51.01 | Jucato | Safa_[A_boy]: still a bit confused. could you give a more concrete example? |
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| 13:52.34 | Safa_[A_boy] | Jucato: For example, "Hello means مرØÂبا".. Here if I set the dictionary to English, the Arabic word will be marked as wrong. And If I set the dictionary to Arabic, the tow English words will be marked as wrong. |
| 13:52.46 | Jucato | aah |
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| 13:53.46 | Jucato | yeah, unfortunately I don't think that's possible right now. i could be wrong though. |
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| 14:47.37 | SouL | Who uses KMail? |
| 14:47.41 | scummos | <- |
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| 14:48.50 | SouL | Hi scummos, do you know why KMail keeps using my computer's name as a smtp server? |
| 14:49.04 | scummos | no ... doesn't happen for me |
| 14:49.07 | scummos | try #kontact |
| 14:49.16 | scummos | or bugs.kde.org |
| 14:49.44 | SouL | thanks scummos :) |
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| 14:50.39 | penguin42 | hmm screensaver didn't blank while I was out, although that could be synergy |
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| 14:51.09 | SouL | Hope somebody will answer me at #kontact please =( |
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| 14:52.43 | scummos | SouL: patience, patience ... IRC is a slow communication medium ;) |
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| 14:59.56 | lotherk | I sadly have to use chrome for one single task and it always try to unlock my kde wallet. is there a way where I can forbid this at all? Like no popups anymore? |
| 15:00.39 | Sho_ | SouL: Somewhere in KMail you can select which outgoing mail server to use for each identity |
| 15:00.50 | Sho_ | SouL: I am guessing your identity is set to the local MTA |
| 15:01.15 | Sho_ | lotherk: http://danielsmedegaardbuus.dk/2012-08-10/how-to-disable-kwallet-integration-in-google-chrome/ |
| 15:01.29 | lotherk | niice, thanks! |
| 15:03.20 | rdieter_work | or just always open your wallet on session start (and don't close it), then stuff "just works" too |
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| 17:30.46 | novist | is there any tool for editing .color files? |
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| 17:33.08 | scummos | what's a .color file? |
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| 17:35.56 | rdieter | kde color schemes, see /usr/share/config/colors (default location), for examples |
| 17:37.32 | novist | or maybe there is easy way to make color pallete follow current gtk2/3 theme? |
| 17:38.29 | rdieter | novist: kde apps should generally do that already when run outside of plasma desktop |
| 17:39.52 | novist | thats what i expected but somehow they dont. non-kde qt apps seem to get gtk theme fine though |
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| 17:40.15 | rdieter | novist: systemsettings->application appearance->colors , can edit color schemes |
| 17:40.57 | novist | oh lol right. i can be blind at times. thanks |
| 17:41.04 | novist | looks like it will take some time hehe |
| 17:41.15 | rdieter | tests gnome |
| 17:41.26 | novist | gnome 3? |
| 17:41.43 | rdieter | yes, to verify whether kde apps properly inherit color scheme or not |
| 17:42.05 | novist | im using cinnamon here if it makes any difference.. |
| 17:42.10 | rdieter | It may |
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| 17:43.17 | rdieter | heh, I don't see mention of theming at all in gnome3 control center |
| 17:43.37 | novist | i change themes using command line heh |
| 17:43.50 | novist | gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme "Numix" |
| 17:43.51 | novist | gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences theme "Numix" |
| 17:43.58 | novist | replace Numix with theme name |
| 17:44.08 | novist | themes are in /usr/share/themes |
| 17:44.36 | rdieter | I know kde already uses qgtk style, I thought you were talking about colors? |
| 17:45.15 | novist | well yes i am, because changing colors is only thing that lets me to change kde app style |
| 17:45.26 | novist | maybe i should install qgtk? |
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| 17:45.48 | rdieter | it should be part of qt, but if your distro packages it separately, then yes, install it |
| 17:46.24 | novist | err or maybe this is qgtk you talk about? http://paste2box.com/5/#/d81b89cc/Uflk8dEZwhNxPIyUdXODFtqwOQ7gz2ufJZtsBccgxvM/Zi4Z0AEh.jpg?del=uKP4qogLBdW7pXR_va9pzX028tM |
| 17:47.07 | novist | im but clueless what that thing is heh. and its not on package repos. |
| 17:47.16 | rdieter | novist: no, it's a qt style, included if qt is build with: configure -gtkstyle |
| 17:47.37 | rdieter | novist: well, yeah, that's it |
| 17:48.03 | novist | hmm.. also this is not universal to all qt apps, just some |
| 17:48.10 | rdieter | but you shouldnt have to select it manually |
| 17:48.15 | novist | for example virt-manager follows gtk theme |
| 17:48.23 | novist | qbittorrent / kate doesnt |
| 17:48.27 | rdieter | it should "just work", and get used if Qt app runs outside of kde |
| 17:48.27 | novist | very strange |
| 17:48.35 | rdieter | virt-manager isn't a qt app |
| 17:48.57 | novist | uh i thought it uses pyqt |
| 17:49.42 | novist | hmm what if i move .kde configs dir.. |
| 17:50.34 | rdieter | test, does this look different? <kde_app> -style Gtk+ |
| 17:50.46 | rdieter | for example, konsole -style Gtk+ |
| 17:51.14 | novist | yes actually, seems to do the trick |
| 17:51.16 | rdieter | if that looks better, it means it's not detecting cinnamon environment automatically for some reason |
| 17:51.29 | rdieter | bug your distro |
| 17:52.00 | novist | maybe you know some secret env variable that would set style globally for qt apps? |
| 17:52.39 | rdieter | this is none |
| 17:53.20 | rdieter | you can manually set Gtk+ in systemsettings, but then it would also try to use that in a plasma session too (which probably isn't what you want) |
| 17:54.05 | rdieter | you might be hitting this oldie but goodie, https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-5545 |
| 17:54.10 | novist | actually there i can do export QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=Gtk+and it works |
| 17:54.16 | novist | you really helped me, thanks :) |
| 17:55.17 | rdieter | interesting, never heard of QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE before, I learned something too |
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| 18:22.01 | rebsadran | any desktop widgets you guys would recommend? aside from pastebin widget I'm having trouble finding something. |
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| 18:23.13 | oleo | paste.lisp.org, pastie.com or .org.... |
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| 18:23.31 | oleo | tho i'm not sure those have widgets...... |
| 18:24.53 | rebsadran | well I already have pastebin for kde.pastebin or something and It does the job, what I am looking for is other usefull widgets |
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| 18:25.54 | oleo | aah |
| 18:26.08 | oleo | you should try the search function..... |
| 18:26.40 | oleo | there are many widgets out there..... |
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| 18:26.57 | rebsadran | yeah I am |
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| 18:27.51 | oleo | calculator ones maybe useful.... |
| 18:28.08 | oleo | a notes one maybe useful....for taking notes...like sticky note app or so.... |
| 18:28.24 | rebsadran | what do you use personally? |
| 18:28.30 | oleo | i don't use any now |
| 18:28.36 | oleo | tho i used to use some... |
| 18:28.49 | oleo | i'm on a different DE for now.... |
| 18:30.10 | rebsadran | ah |
| 18:30.15 | rebsadran | heretic ! |
| 18:30.17 | rebsadran | :D |
| 18:31.06 | oleo | not that i don't like kde..... |
| 18:31.18 | oleo | but i changed to a lightweight one..... |
| 18:31.27 | oleo | if i had more ram.... |
| 18:31.35 | oleo | but i'm on my max already..... |
| 18:31.50 | oleo | 4G for this mobo.... |
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| 18:36.21 | rebsadran | dude, I think you have some crumbs under your dot key |
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| 18:39.02 | oleo | nope i don't |
| 18:39.12 | oleo | i'm dotty yes |
| 18:39.35 | oleo | elliptic even |
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| 19:24.04 | Safa_[A_boy] | How to change KTorrent download path |
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| 19:25.19 | bootkiller | Safa_[A_boy]: in the options |
| 19:25.41 | Safa_[A_boy] | For an existing item |
| 19:26.18 | bootkiller | Safa_[A_boy]: right click the item and select move data |
| 19:26.27 | Safa_[A_boy] | Ok |
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| 20:07.17 | diegoviola | kde is great, thanks for all your hard work |
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| 21:05.49 | rebsadran | how can I copy screen region printscreen to a clipboard ? |
| 21:06.00 | rebsadran | in an easy manner? |
| 21:06.17 | rebsadran | ksnapshot is dreadful |
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| 21:11.13 | djustice | rebsadran: pastebin plasma applet. drag from ksnapshot to the applet, it uploads and copies the link to your clipboard. |
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| 21:11.38 | djustice | ohoh, pixdata to clipboard. nvm. |
| 21:11.40 | rebsadran | awesome, exactly what I was looking for |
| 21:11.45 | rebsadran | oh |
| 21:11.46 | rebsadran | :( |
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| 21:11.54 | rebsadran | I love pastebin plasma widget |
| 21:12.56 | valorie | me too, rebsadran |
| 21:13.08 | valorie | works for screenies, too |
| 21:13.31 | rebsadran | djustice: It works, thanks ! |
| 21:13.33 | valorie | oops, hadn't read up |
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| 21:13.45 | rebsadran | what's wrong with it |
| 21:13.49 | rebsadran | just tried it works pretty well |
| 21:14.07 | rebsadran | any way to bind so that ctrl+printscreen would take region screenshot? |
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| 21:39.33 | karolherbst | hi, I try out KDE5 a bit on gentoo, but I have problems with powedevil not recognizing susped support. Because of gentoo I don't use systemd, but "pm-is-supported --suspend" returns 0 and "dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend" works without problems |
| 21:39.59 | rebsadran | karolherbst: there's no KDE5 you mean plasma 5? |
| 21:40.05 | karolherbst | yeah |
| 21:40.11 | karolherbst | okay, then I will call it plasma 5 |
| 21:40.13 | rebsadran | karolherbst: try #plasma |
| 21:40.17 | karolherbst | thanks |
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| 23:12.48 | BoomerBile | are separate x screens supported? |
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| 23:25.17 | kdepepo | BoomerBile, no, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256242 |
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