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| 01:51.59 | Basstard` | Is there a way to take and save a screenshot with KSnapshot without KSnapshot actually appearing? In other words, taking the screenshot in visual silence. Not needing to "Save as" and so on. |
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| 02:10.04 | desti_T2 | after updating to latest kde, i can no longer delete multiple mails at once in kmail |
| 02:10.25 | desti_T2 | i can delte single mails one by one |
| 02:11.00 | desti_T2 | but if i mark multiple mails and move them to trash, they just come back after reloading the mail folder 0.o |
| 02:12.07 | rdieter | Basstard`: press the 'printscreen' button on your keyboard |
| 02:12.32 | rdieter | Basstard`: on second thought, you want the screenshot to be saved too without any UI? |
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| 02:13.55 | desti_T2 | that's a problem i have too, ksnapshot always pops up, e.g. when doing a cap of fullscreen video live stream, it switches video back to window mode |
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| 02:35.44 | Basstard` | rdieter: Yes. No UI should pop up. Just save the screenshot directly. Because currently if I take several screenshots then I need to manually save them afterwards, which is a pain. |
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| 02:39.24 | Basstard` | Ideally it should save a screenshot directly (no UI) with PrtSc. With Alt+PrtSc it saves the active window in the same way, no UI. And perhaps with Ctrl+PrtSc it displays KSnapshot to give me control. |
| 02:39.53 | thiago | that's not how it works |
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| 02:40.41 | chris062689 | Is there a way to set the Desktop Cube to move like it did in Compiz? Where you could hit Ctrl + Alt and then move your mouse? |
| 02:40.42 | Basstard` | Hence ideally. Right now it pops up KSnapshot every single time. |
| 02:41.14 | thiago | there needs to be an application so that the clipboard can exist |
| 02:43.30 | thiago | I rarely use the copy & paste feature, though |
| 02:43.56 | thiago | the most common scenario for me is to drag the capture thumbnail to the target application (which includes the pastebin applet) or to save to disk |
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| 02:46.33 | Basstard` | If you're in a virtual lesson or something, and you want to quickly take notes (screenshots) then you don't want something to pop up every time. Much less so to "Save as" every time. You want it to be saved directly. |
| 02:47.57 | Basstard` | It's something GNOME gets right at least. And I have to use scrot for it. But I shouldn't need to KSnapshot can be improved there. At least provide commands to do it so you can change the shortcut. |
| 02:48.16 | thiago | you want to modify kwin so it has the feature |
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| 02:48.33 | thiago | saving to disk without asking for the file name first is not something we usually do |
| 02:51.31 | Basstard` | It would save with the date and time to Pictures. |
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| 02:59.56 | Basstard` | ksnapshot ~/Pictures/"Screenshot from %Y-%m-%d %T.png" |
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| 03:00.48 | Basstard` | Combined scrot with GNOME's filenameformat into ksnapshot. |
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| 03:03.33 | thiago | shell script |
| 03:05.35 | Basstard` | But can ksnapshot do that? Taking/saving a screenshot through the commandline and not presenting a UI and thus the shortcut can be changed for PrtSc. |
| 03:06.28 | thiago | probably not |
| 03:06.31 | thiago | you can add the feature |
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| 04:09.53 | Eddi|zuHause | hello. i have a feature-request(-ish): when a popup message opens, check for "always on top" windows, and move the location of the popup |
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| 04:37.11 | Sho_ | Eddi|zuHause: What sort of popup message? |
| 04:37.44 | Eddi|zuHause | all sorts. "are you sure you want to do X? [yes] [no]" |
| 04:38.29 | Eddi|zuHause | like, if you disable the window frame, it pops up "you can get this back by pressing Alt+F3" |
| 04:39.20 | Sho_ | hm I'm not sure if moving the popup would be good behavior |
| 04:39.39 | Eddi|zuHause | hiding behind the always on top certainly isn't... |
| 04:40.12 | Sho_ | That depends, if the always on top window isn't the window that spawned the dialog, I think it's correct behavior |
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| 04:40.50 | Eddi|zuHause | it's almost never spawned by the always on top window. otherwise i wouldn't need the window always on top |
| 04:41.04 | Sho_ | two reasons: |
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| 04:41.41 | Sho_ | - dialog windows are usually centered on their parent, which helps identifying what opened a dialog; if you move dialogs to random positions you lose that |
| 04:42.25 | Sho_ | - dialogs aren't globally modal ... that app a opened a dialog doesn't mean app b needs to care or vice-versa |
| 04:44.35 | Eddi|zuHause | in my usecase, the always on top is generally a kmag, which is carefully placed to not cover the areas of most other windows that i care about. but popups have the annoying tendency to always end up behind that always on top, which means i either have to contantly move it to access the yes/no buttons, or i completely miss them because they are covered |
| 04:44.49 | Eddi|zuHause | popups should actually pop up, so i notice them. |
| 04:45.25 | Eddi|zuHause | i can identify which window spawned the popup by seeing which frame changes colours on activation |
| 04:46.22 | Eddi|zuHause | from my point of view, popping up behind the always on top is almost always the worst choice |
| 04:46.45 | Sho_ | well, from my point of view you made a window always on top and now it's always on top |
| 04:47.00 | Sho_ | it's not exactly ... unexpected |
| 04:47.22 | Eddi|zuHause | yes. but normal windows opening do avoid the always on top |
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| 04:48.23 | Sho_ | yeah, the default window placement policy will try to avoid overlap |
| 04:48.23 | Eddi|zuHause | and popups are generally small enough to fit in other areas of the screen |
| 04:48.39 | Sho_ | dialog windows are exempt from that assuming they have a parent, then they get centered on that parent |
| 04:49.32 | Eddi|zuHause | i get that. and now i want an exception to that, which will make my life easier |
| 04:50.40 | Sho_ | Right |
| 04:53.27 | Sho_ | Eddi|zuHause: You're going to need to put that on bugs.kde.org, though, none of the relevant developers are here right now |
| 04:53.36 | Eddi|zuHause | i suppose it's a matter of priorities. you value your "this is clean design from an isolated standpoint" view, but i value more the "this area of the screen should be avoided at all costs" view |
| 04:54.18 | Sho_ | Eddi|zuHause: I respect your view - fwiw you could probably write a kwin script fairly easily |
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| 04:54.46 | Eddi|zuHause | i don't think i've ever done that. have any pointers? |
| 04:55.46 | Sho_ | Eddi|zuHause: https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/KWin/Scripting has some basic docs and https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeexamples/repository/revisions/master/show/kwin/scripts has some example scripts |
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| 04:58.05 | Sho_ | Eddi|zuHause: so I think the easiest approach would probably be a script that runs on all new windows and makes sure they're placed outside the area you care about or so |
| 05:00.08 | Sho_ | back in 60-90 minutes, breakfast beckons |
| 05:00.44 | Eddi|zuHause | i'll probably look at it some time later |
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| 07:19.36 | V^V | akonadi and mysql have the rare quality to piss me off |
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| 07:21.55 | V^V | how do I completely clear out everything akonadi and mysql related? I am getting errors on the comic applet, the knotes has about 30 saved instances that just make it look annoying when you open the program, no to mention that they are unreliable as they are often corrupted... anyway, I am also trying to stop kmail from checking my imap email. I had removed the account in kmail but I still can see an instance for it in akonadiconsole... but nice... no way to |
| 07:21.57 | V^V | delete them from there either? >.> |
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| 07:25.02 | V^V | I've even wiped out mysql but these damn instanced just don't go |
| 07:26.36 | einar77_work | V^V: you can delete intances fromakonadiconsole |
| 07:26.43 | einar77_work | there's a button for removing them |
| 07:27.17 | V^V | einar77_work: which button? |
| 07:27.21 | V^V | I see nothing |
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| 07:28.11 | einar77_work | http://i.imgur.com/33NI7Cl.png |
| 07:28.16 | einar77_work | at the bottom |
| 07:28.18 | einar77_work | add - remove |
| 07:28.43 | V^V | einar77_work: I don't have that button |
| 07:29.34 | einar77_work | V^V: which version of PIM are you using? |
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| 07:30.44 | V^V | akonadi 1.12.1-2 kdepim-akonadiconsole 4.13.3-1 (kde kdepim) http://picpaste.com/whereisit-w7ZzVOtz.png |
| 07:30.54 | V^V | einar77_work: no button that I see :( |
| 07:30.58 | einar77_work | V^V: wrong tab |
| 07:31.02 | einar77_work | click on "Agents" |
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| 07:32.11 | V^V | einar77_work: Oh that... I did remove them from there but do youo see the pic I've sent you? I want too remove that imap and that akonotes |
| 07:32.38 | V^V | I want everything in there gone. Everything |
| 07:32.57 | V^V | even what I don't see... a complete wipe out of akonadi data |
| 07:33.37 | einar77_work | V^V: if you're so eager to do so... wipe .local/share/akonadi and .config/akonadi*, but do check in your .kde[4] dir if there are leftovers there too |
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| 07:34.41 | V^V | einar77_work: Ok, I did deleted anything mysql and akonadi related under ~/.kde and ~/.kde4, and deleted the whole of ~/.local and ~/.config |
| 07:35.00 | V^V | also deleted mysql's /var and still there :O |
| 07:35.09 | einar77_work | mysql's data is not stored there |
| 07:35.17 | einar77_work | also you may want to close down akonadi first |
| 07:35.19 | einar77_work | akonadictl stop |
| 07:35.37 | V^V | did, but let me try all that again, 1 min |
| 07:35.46 | einar77_work | and ensure there are no on-demand services that require it (see "display events" in the plasma clock config, needs to be unticked) |
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| 07:48.30 | V^V | einar77_work: THAT is exactly what I was missing! :) I just noticed that one of the akonadi dirs was repopulated as soon as deleted but it dodn't any more after that was unchecked! |
| 07:48.34 | V^V | thanks :D |
| 07:48.41 | V^V | finally done |
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| 07:52.34 | V^V | comic applet is still not working though but oh well |
| 07:53.06 | V^V | oh, nvm it does :p |
| 07:53.31 | V^V | just had to reinstall the stripes |
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| 10:32.14 | nekoxmachina | Hello everyone! My konqueror installation seem to report "The proccess for http://URL_ADDR died unexpectedly" pretty often when heavy-browsing. What could be the rootcause? I googled around, see the report from back to 2002, but not the current infos. |
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| 10:56.18 | BlaXpirit | konqueror is dead |
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| 11:03.07 | Walex | nekoxmachina: sometimes memory exhaustion |
| 11:04.03 | nekoxmachina | BlaXpirit: but rekonq seems to have the same problem (somehow less often, 5 times rarer than konqueror) |
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| 11:04.36 | Walex | nekoxmachina: that's because both use the same KIO slave mechanism... |
| 11:05.12 | nekoxmachina | Walex: that could be an issue, but that is rather strange: I have a load of memory on this system |
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| 11:09.58 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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| 11:22.06 | snare5 | hi all! |
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| 11:47.39 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
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| 11:51.06 | cousin_luigi | gets kdeinit failures after switching to wireless and disabling the wired connection (kde 4.13 on opensuse 13.1) |
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| 11:58.50 | cousin_luigi | Any ideas? I replaced the wifi card (also different module) but it hasn't made a difference. |
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| 11:59.36 | cb400f | you're using networkmanager? .. using the qml plasmoid or the c++ one? |
| 11:59.52 | cb400f | does the "failures" happen inside the kde session, or when you re-login? |
| 12:00.06 | cousin_luigi | networkmanager, not sure how to reply to the second question |
| 12:00.24 | cousin_luigi | cb400f: it happens in the same session, I switch to wireless and I can't even launch konsole |
| 12:00.50 | cb400f | 'plasmoid-networkmanagement' is the old c++ one (default on 13.1) ... not sure if the new one is better, but might be worth a try |
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| 12:01.59 | cousin_luigi | I'm not using the standard repository, but the semi-official KDE:Current. How can I find out which one I'm using? |
| 12:02.53 | cb400f | rpm -q plasmoid-networkmanagment plasma-nm |
| 12:03.24 | cb400f | if you have both installed, of course it might be more tricky figuring out which is actually running |
| 12:03.33 | cousin_luigi | only the latter is installed |
| 12:03.41 | cousin_luigi | plasma-nm-0.9.3.3-4.3.x86_64 |
| 12:03.48 | cb400f | that would be the new qml based one |
| 12:04.03 | cb400f | dunno if the old one is even built for kde:current actually |
| 12:04.08 | cb400f | runs ooooold 4.11.x |
| 12:04.13 | cousin_luigi | in fact, it doesn't seem it is |
| 12:04.31 | cousin_luigi | so, I'm running the new one. What could be possibly causing this problem? |
| 12:04.48 | cb400f | prolly some dbus weirdness crashing kded4 or sumfink |
| 12:05.28 | cousin_luigi | But it does it regularly. |
| 12:05.39 | cousin_luigi | Should I take this to #kde-devel? |
| 12:05.47 | cb400f | more like #opensuse-kde |
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| 12:06.18 | cousin_luigi | will do |
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| 13:49.19 | nekoxmachina | Can I configure KDE to open links to specific web-sites in other app than konqueror? |
| 13:49.24 | nekoxmachina | youtube -> smplayer in particular |
| 13:49.46 | thiago | no |
| 13:49.56 | thiago | all or nothing: you can configure a particular browser |
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| 13:50.19 | thiago | if you don't configure a particular browser, KDE will launch based on the MIME type |
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| 13:51.52 | nekoxmachina | hmm. Does konqueror have this kind of settings? |
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| 13:54.34 | thiago | no |
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| 13:56.41 | nekoxmachina | Hmmmm. Okay, don't you happen to know how KDE does decide which app to open w/ particular URL? E.g. may I write a shell script that if $1 ~~ "youtube.*" -> open smplayer, else do same thing that KDE w/ auto-decide does? |
| 13:58.26 | scummos | well "particular browser" can be $shellscript which looks at the url and does kde-open in some cases and something else in others |
| 13:58.32 | scummos | I guess |
| 13:58.52 | nekoxmachina | ahh kde-open, thanks! |
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| 14:05.17 | thiago | that works, yeah |
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| 14:35.32 | sjouke | is there a nice window theme which makes kwin look as nice as the new plasma5? |
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| 15:19.23 | Walex | sjouke: that's highly subjective... |
| 15:20.06 | Walex | nekoxmachina: kde-open, xmg-<something> kstart |
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| 15:21.03 | Walex | nekoxmachina: kde-open, xdg-open, kstart |
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| 15:21.57 | Walex | of these probably 'kde-open' is less appropriate than the other two |
| 15:21.58 | sjouke | Walex: sure |
| 15:22.04 | sjouke | but i'm looking for recommendations, do you have any? |
| 15:22.13 | sjouke | i'm not satisfied with the default theme |
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| 15:22.34 | Walex | sjouke: can't help here because I don't like special effects and don't like fancy themes, I tend to use the simplest/oldest looking |
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| 22:51.44 | jak875 | why is weird junk getting into the clipboard? stuff I've not selected , like searches eneterd into google...and not everyone , just some.... |
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| 22:52.16 | jak875 | how to get rid of the chaos in the clipboard? |
| 22:54.17 | lainlives | jak875: are you highlighting them with the mouse? |
| 22:55.08 | jak875 | lainlives: no. that's the point - text I've not highlighted or selected in any way gets into the clipboard |
| 22:55.29 | jak875 | like random search strings enetered into google |
| 22:56.41 | jak875 | also some numeric values entered into audio-software somehow end up on the clipboard etc etc |
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| 23:11.03 | bakers | I have a dual monitor setup that works great. When the monitors go into sleep mode KDE gets confused and drops one of them. No matter what I do to reconfigure it won't re-add it. My only solution is to nuke ~/.kde and reload KDE |
| 23:11.30 | bakers | Where does KDE store display settings? |
| 23:11.39 | bakers | can I wipe that out, without wiping out ALL the other settings? |
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| 23:21.33 | underplay | hello, how do i get the dolphin "filter" bar to always stay visible? |
| 23:23.27 | Jucato | underplay: Control (on the toolbar, the one with the cog icon) -> Configure Dolphin -> Startup -> check [ ] Show filter bar |
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| 23:24.09 | underplay | Jucato: Beautiful, thank you |
| 23:24.23 | underplay | Jucato: What distro do you use? |
| 23:24.29 | Jucato | fedora |
| 23:24.41 | underplay | Jucado: 20? |
| 23:25.12 | Jucato | yep |
| 23:25.25 | underplay | Jucato: Have you tried kde 5 yet? |
| 23:25.40 | Jucato | (there is no "kde 5") nope |
| 23:26.06 | underplay | Jucato: Well what about plasma 5? |
| 23:26.15 | Jucato | same answer :) |
| 23:27.09 | underplay | damn, i was installing the beta but had some dependencie problems was hoping someone could help me with them |
| 23:27.41 | Jucato | it's no longer beta though |
| 23:27.46 | Jucato | you could ask in #fedora-kde |
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| 23:29.09 | pengwen_ | Hello |
| 23:30.43 | underplay | Jucato: Whats no longer beta plasma 5? |
| 23:31.12 | Jucato | underplay: yeah. http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0/ |
| 23:31.36 | Jucato | that said, it's not yet ready/recommended to be shipped as the default workspace just yet |
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| 23:33.47 | pengwen_ | Do any of you guys know if KDE still ships a "netbook" tailored version? |
| 23:34.49 | rdieter | pengwen_: yes, plasma-netbook (vs. classic plasma-desktop) |
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| 23:35.14 | underplay | im asking this in fedora-kde and here is http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/dvratil/plasma-5/ the up to date repo for plasma 5 from jul 15th? |
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| 23:39.24 | Jucato | based on http://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/dvratil/plasma-5/fedora-20-x86_64/, yes |
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