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01:11.44deitarionI'm trying to get some KDE components set up in an LXDE desktop. What might I be missing if Dolphin doesn't offer "Extract here" options for Ark?
01:13.12hiddeitarion: try lxqt
01:14.31deitarionhid: No thanks. I've already spent enough time squashing the egregious bugs introduced when I upgraded from Lubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 for a newer glibc, my subscription to the LXDE mailing list makes it clear it's not ready for my uses yet, and I still need to squash GTK+ 3.x apps or patch the Open/Save dialogs to make them GTK+ 2.x-like.
01:15.28hidlxqt is not enough stable indeed
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01:16.47bootkillerdeitarion: on Dolphin preferences there should be a services tab, make sure you have those related to archiving selected.
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01:17.13deitarionOne sec. Gotta wait the 10-20 seconds for it to start. (Another bug not yet squashed)
01:17.58deitarionI stand corrected. 20+ seconds.
01:18.15deitarionMark.
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01:18.26deitarionOk. About 60 seconds for it to start. Checking services now.
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01:19.14deitarionOK, "Extract here" is enabled so I'm assuming it's related to Ark being listed as a handler for none of the archive formats and asking me to manually pick the filetype from an empty list when I double-click a .tar.gz file.
01:20.02deitarions/none of the archive formats/none of the archive formats except tarballs/ (Tested with Zip, RAR, and a few others I forget)
01:20.35deitarionTime to ask #kubuntu what foolishness their package maintainers got up to.
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01:29.38deitarionSince I'm not getting any quick answers there, can anyone here suggest how I'd investigate Ark displaying an empty "please choose the filetype" list when I feed it a .tar.gz file?
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01:54.54deitarionHa ha! Manually running kbuildsycoca4 fixed Ark! Now to just find something other than file-roller which puts the uncompressed size of an archive's contents in the statusbar.
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01:58.14deitarion...and it also fixed systemsettings. :)
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02:24.17bl4ckdu5tFor some unknown reasons, root can't access Xserver
02:24.26bl4ckdu5tI can't run dolphin as root
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02:25.31bl4ckdu5tsome programs that require to use network interfaces and therefore requires root privilege aren't working properly as they only open fine with a less privileged user
02:26.18bl4ckdu5tIf root could access them, then I should interact with those ifaces propely
02:26.33bl4ckdu5twhat can be done to fix this?
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02:27.49solidus-riverhey all, how do i use a custom font with konsole
02:27.54solidus-riveri have intsalled the font systme wide
02:28.05solidus-riverbut konsole doesnt show the font as a choice in my font settings
02:28.15solidus-riverunder the profile config
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02:40.14solidus-riveri'm confused it says this font is supported by konsole
02:40.17solidus-riverbut i cants select it with konsoel
02:40.24solidus-riverdo i need to compile konsole with special parameters?
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10:01.38brbblnchHi. I've installed plasma-desktop via aur on arch. I can't find a way to add a custom keyboard shortcut (ie keyboard strokes -> command). The "Global Keyboard Shortcuts" allows to modify existing ones, but seems not to allow adding. Where should I look ?
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10:39.53BluesKajHey folks
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11:48.01gnathanHi, for some reason the sleep/hibernate options have just vanished from my KDE menu
11:48.11gnathanthey were there yesterday and I haven't updated anything...
11:48.13gnathanany ideas?
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11:50.44gnathanwait, actually I'm going to try restarting first :)
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11:54.28gnathanok. turning it off and on again worked.
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15:36.00deadmundI'm looking for a plasmoid like "hard disk space usage" which allows me to choose an arbitrary directory tree (by specifying a root) and it shows me how much stuff (in GB or MB) is in that tree. Does such a thing exist?  "Hard Disk Space Usage" does not let me choose the folders it monitors.
15:36.44Sho_can't say i recall seeing one
15:36.50Sho_sounds like a fun hacking project though
15:37.41deadmundSho_: Maybe I'll just use conky.... :)
15:39.41Sho_deadmund: if you have any hacking inclination though this would be fairly simple project
15:41.13deadmundSho_: I would use du :P
15:41.39deadmundSho_: Can you link me to a "getting started writing plasmoid" documentation page?
15:42.46Sho_deadmund: what you'd be using is a KDirWatch to react to changes and QFileInfo::size() to get the size
15:43.00Sho_and KLocale to format the size in a nice human number
15:43.20Sho_deadmund: https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma
15:43.30Sho_the kde-examples git repository also has some simple example plasmoids and such
15:43.33deadmundSho_: I'll take a look
15:45.29deadmundSho_: Thanks!
15:45.40Sho_yw
15:46.07Sho_if you're digging in and need help later don't hesitate to ask me questions on IRC or hein@kde.org
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15:55.59divansantanakde sysadmins... what nice software powers your https://todo.kde.org Been looking for a free kanban board for a while.
15:58.53Sho_divansantana: kanboard
15:59.23divansantanaah http://kanboard.net/ thanks Sho_
15:59.28Sho_we're not all that happy with it right now, giving people login-less read-only links requires sysadmin involvement and it doesn't remember logins persistently and some other clumsyness
15:59.35Sho_actually using it is pretty fine tho
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16:00.13divansantanaSho_: cool. Thanks. Will post if I find a nicer one. Want to deploy something for home
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17:06.12quuphi, is it possible to have different applications output sound to different speakers, like firefox to 3.5mm jack and whatever else to internal speakers?
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17:09.22Sho_quup: Yes
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17:10.05Sho_quup: It depends a bit on how your distro has decided to set up your audio stack, but on most end-user desktop distros you should be able to right-click the app in KMix and pick the desired output
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17:10.59Sho_quup: It also depends a bit on the sound card and driver, whether it actually offers those two outputs as separate targets
17:11.19Sho_With a bunch of hardware it's simply not possible on a hardware level
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17:21.52quupSho_: oh ok, thanks!
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19:00.03norbertI think I turned off notifications for applications; want to turn it back on, but the notifications thing disappeared altogether, I think?
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19:15.51rdieternorbert: if there are no active notifications, it will autohide in your systray (you have to click the ^ thing to show hidden items)
19:16.12rdieteronce you see it, right click -> Notifications settings
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19:19.40norbertrdieter: ah, yes; thank
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20:48.08PoenikatuWhere should personal syntax files for the Kate editor be put in one's home directory?
20:49.59Sho_Poenikatu: where are they on the system?
20:51.22PoenikatuIn /usr/share/kde4/apps/katepart/syntax
20:51.54PoenikatuSho_: AFAIK, they are in ~/.kde/share/...
20:51.59Sho_Poenikatu: $KDEHOME/share/apps/katepart/syntax/ then, where $KDEHOME is $HOME/.kde org $HOME/.kde4 depending on your distro
20:52.41PoenikatuSho_: Debian, can you be more specific than $HOME/.kde?
20:53.38PoenikatuSho_: I've been reading the Katepart docs concerning syntax highlighting, but I cannot find the mention of the exact directory. I remember that it ends with /syntax/
20:53.49Sho_Poenikatu: Please read the line more closely
20:54.46PoenikatuSho_: Your line shows where the package-supplied syntax files are stored, but not where the personal ones are stored
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20:54.52Sho_Poenikatu: No
20:55.06Sho_it shows the specific path relative to $KDEHOME and then I tell you what $KDEHOME might be
20:55.33Sho_if $KDEHOME is $HOME/.kde, then the result is $HOME/.kde/share/apps/katepart/syntax/
20:55.44PoenikatuSho_: Thanks
20:56.02Sho_(not trying to be a smartass, just multitasking and wanted to avoid more typing ..)
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21:02.23PoenikatuSho_: I understand
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21:19.53nixhi everyone
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21:59.24w00dogIs there a "reference" / best distro that features KDE?  I'm using it on CentOS 6.5 and it's a bit old. OpenSUSE looks very nice, but I'm wondering if there's a best of the best?
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22:14.15Sho_w00dog: not really
22:14.25Sho_you'd get different answers depending on who you ask
22:17.53w00dogSho_: Thanks.  I kinda thought so, though heard that OpenSUSE put a lot of effort into theirs. Haven't tried Kubuntu since ? 12.04 ?
22:18.12Sho_I'm partial to Fedora myself
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