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00:25.52pcre_daniel3: Try it.
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02:01.42j4jackjHullo
02:02.10j4jackjI am here to ask: how do I force KWin to use LLVMpipe despite its abuse of XRender should it detect said graphics driver
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02:57.10nobregadantasHello everyone
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04:40.18daniel3pcre_, I don't know which tarball holds the Breeze desktop environment, or holds the splash screen
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04:54.01daniel3I think I found it.
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05:56.47daniel3I would not recommend trying to do that.  Most of my copying into the theme files failed.  The KDE5 themes are not easy to install to kde4 :)
05:57.28daniel3I noticed that the screen locker doesn't look themable.
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09:19.33redeyedmani aifraid that kde5  become more giant, and i will need buy new 22 dig or even larger display for kde's giantism, big toolbars, big icons and widgets...
09:20.42leszekwhats kde5 ?
09:21.14leszekI only know plasma 5 and frameworks 5
09:21.43redeyedmankde5 is these components
09:22.32redeyedmani wrote shorten, just kde 5
09:23.33redeyedmanmy 18.5 looks smaller for it, native dpi for 18.5 is 84 =)
09:23.47leszekplasma 5 scales up and down nicely so far. I don't see it getting bigger in terms of default size
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09:25.35redeyedmanto reduce their size i just set small low dpi value, currently in kde 4
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09:27.35leszekredeyedman: that should work on plasma 5 aswell
09:28.04leszekredeyedman: did you tried plasma 5 already ? There are some good live systems that you can use for testing
09:29.03redeyedmanleszek:  may be it is that, bot i didn't tried kde 5 components yet
09:30.07redeyedmanleszek: I just looked to their screenshots
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09:31.45leszekscreenshots and real working version at your fingertips is something completely different :)
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10:34.29cousin_luigiredeyedman: 18.5 is small in general
10:34.44cousin_luigipanels are cheap these days
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12:04.06BluesKajHey folks
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12:20.11cekakonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_1(24445)/akonadiresource (maildir): "NO [LRCONFLICT] Resource akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_1 tries to modify item 75518 (1411238892.R927.yu) (in collection 34) with dirty payload, aborting STORE. "
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12:22.51cekwhat the heck does taht message mean?
12:22.58cekthat's while working in kmail
12:23.20cekBTW, kmail is crashing often and misbehaving. this continues from 4.9 to 4.14
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14:56.00KebianizaoHello
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14:56.37KebianizaoI'm viewing some of the akademy 14 videos, unfortunately in some of them audio is not really good. For instance, this one: https://conf.kde.org/en/Akademy2014/public/events/88
14:57.09Kebianizaocould anyone point me where's the right place to ask if a corrected version is to be posted?
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15:14.25MichaelPkde 4.14.1 runing compiz. can i still use kde's window decorations instead of emerald ?
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15:17.41thiagoas long as you run kwin instead of compiz, you can use kde window decorations
15:19.20MichaelPso window decorations is part of kwin
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15:19.28thiagoyes
15:19.36thiagowindow decorations are always part of the window manager
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15:21.02MichaelPok just wondered... kwin has better decorations but compiz has better effects
15:21.40BluesKajMichaelP, why compiz, kwin not doing what you want ?
15:22.16MichaelPBluesKaj, Like compiz effects better
15:22.37BluesKajeye candy eh
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15:23.11MichaelPsometime eye candy... sometimes nice and clean
15:24.07MichaelPlike i have plasma 5 default theme in the old plasma
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15:24.52BluesKajkwin provides some nice clean looks IMO, no need for extra
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15:32.58d33tahwhy was krunner using 100% of my cpu? o.o
15:33.09thiagod33tah: bug
15:33.32KWhat4#itsafeature ;)
15:33.50MichaelPFor compiz i like effects better then kwins effects... taking ~./kde4/share/apps/desktopthemes/default from plasma 5 and replacing the old plasma default... gives the plasma 5 menu icon
15:33.55thiagokeeps you warm in winter
15:34.47d33tahthiago: can i somehow switch KDE to summer mode for now? :D
15:35.40thiagowe're in the Equinox, so no
15:35.47thiagoyou can choose Spring or Autumn only
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18:43.53vLassiHi guys, running KDE 4.14 (soon-ish 4.14.1) and I just noticed that my created activities disappear after reboot. What conf files do I need to delete? :)
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18:55.51Walex2vLassi: don't be silly... If the created activities disappear it is likely because you have some storage issues, and KDE Plasma cannot save their configuration.
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18:58.58vLassiWalex2: I have had the same issue before after KDE version upgrade or something, and deleting .kde4/ might help, but don't want to do that.. :)
19:00.29Walex2vLassi: that's unlikely. Try to save an activity, and then run something like 'find $KDEHOME/ -mmin -10' to find out where it was configured and then check that.
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19:08.51vLassiWalex2: okay, now I did that. After logging in the kde4/share/config/activitymanagerrc lists the activities, but when trying to move to another one, it does not work
19:09.03vLassialso, the activies panel shows only "New Activity"
19:09.12vLassiI should have two: Desktop and Music
19:09.40Walex2vLassi: these are the files that get modified than I create a new activity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8405337/
19:09.56Walex2vLassi: check them now and just after creating the new activity.
19:10.56Walex2vLassi: if 'kde4/share/config/activitymanagerrc' lists the new activity but the logged in KDE does not list it, then your idea of which KDE "home" directory the login is using is not right.
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19:12.52vLassiWalex2: umm
19:12.58vLassiI doubt
19:13.00Walex2vLassi: also you can use 'qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities' to list several Activity Manager methods that allow you to check what the Acvitivity manager thinks the configuration is like
19:14.24Walex2vLassi: qdbus --literal org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities org.kde.ActivityManager.Activities.ListActivitiesWithInformation
19:15.23vLassiit shows the two I created + an extra one "New Activity", which was not there before logout
19:15.40vLassibut now I'm stuck with only "New Activity" and not able to switch to the two other
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19:19.33vLassiWalex2: sound something like bug 321781
19:19.40vLassihttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321781
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19:21.21vLassiWalex2: also, this happens to me also: "kquitapp plasma-desktop and restart it, it loads both the newly created activity *AND* the old ones"
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19:37.36Walex2vLassi: it seems like that bug indeed.
19:37.37vLassiWalex2: this has something to do with conflicting settings or something. I tried with clean .kde4 and it pretty much worked
19:37.54Walex2vLassi: if it is a race condition then you can't do much.
19:38.24vLassiexcept that I saw "undefined" activity in the list after first login. But
19:38.47vLassiI reverted back to my old settins and it is the same as before "New activity" is created
19:39.11Walex2vLassi: since you have a bug open discussing it further here is not very useful...
19:40.06Walex2vLassi: I am using Kubuntu with backported 4.13.2 and it seems that particular race does not happen.
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22:25.30JoitHi. i got a question. since updating kubuntu from 12.04 to 14.04, all my mini icons dont show up anymore, like the one at the menus or ie. the "new tab" cross at firefox
22:25.40Joitany fix for that ?
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22:35.12rurkowceJoit: does it happen in kde apps as well?
22:36.04Joitrurkowce:  let me check, but i found most at programs like burner for dvd
22:36.15Joitand specific apps what you think of?
22:36.44rurkowceby burner for dvd you mean k3b? :v
22:36.54Joiterr darn, i forgot :P i am at a 12.04 system atm :P
22:37.10Joityes, or dvd styler
22:37.19Joitthis program ie has a lot missing icons
22:37.38Joitanything worked at 12.04, then i upgraded and all been gone
22:37.48Joitand anything works at 12.04
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22:38.08rurkowcestrange stuff
22:38.14Joitthe icons are there anyhow, i can open them in preview
22:38.18Joityes, indeed
22:38.36Joitdid look about a solution but didnt found anything
22:38.58pepeehey guys, any calligra devs here?
22:39.18Sho_i have like 25 lines of code in calligra, if that counds
22:39.21pepeeI submitted the last two comments in this bug report:  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317985   does that help?
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22:44.18rurkowceJoit: did you check icon settings? :V
22:44.45Joithow do i do that :P
22:45.05rurkowceJoit: alt+f2->icons
22:45.23Joiti think i need to relog into the other system and see what it does
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22:47.07Joiti go log and try to get on the other system, just my irc dont works there really well
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22:48.11rurkowceirc works on everything
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22:49.08aumis there any way to configure kate to treat .handebars files as .html? (ie, syntax colouring)
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22:52.05drahos@aum: yes, under Kate settings -> Configure Kate -> Open/Save -> Modes & Filetypes
22:52.15aumthanks drahos
22:52.18drahos@aum: new filetype, create everything you need
22:52.23drahosno problem
22:52.56aummy other question - is there a way to get kate to recognise the '{{ ... }}' handlebars directives within text/html files?
22:53.46drahoshmm, boy. That might take some mimetype hijinks.
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22:53.56drahosYou can have kate do that based on the mime type
22:54.04aumok
22:54.16drahosbut the trick is getting anything with handlebars directives to be recognized as a handlebars file.
22:54.23drahosWhich honestly I have no idea how to go about that.
22:54.25aum{{...}} markup is becoming way more prevalent, with the ascendancy of Ember.js
22:54.26rurkowcethat doesn't seem like html ;v
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22:55.08rurkowceyou could try django templates or something
22:55.42aumno can do, I'm committed to 100% client side dev
22:55.53rurkowceaum: django templates syntax
22:56.02rurkowcesince it's basically html + double bracketss
22:57.44drahos@aum, I'm running a cyber defense competition at my university. We're committed to 100% client side dev too. In fact, the client-side even sends (encrypted) SQL queries straight to the server!
22:57.48pepeeI'm leaving to #kde-devel ...
22:58.07aumdrahos, impressive - what client-side platform?
22:58.18drahosAngular.js
22:58.31drahosI don't know too much about it since I'll be on red team trying to break it a little bit.
22:58.50aumdrahos, how are you finding Angular? It has a bad reputation for being difficult to learn beyond the basics
22:59.06drahosBut the idea is that it is 100% angular.js sending JSON requests containing pure SQL.
22:59.13drahosI didn't do any of the work putting it together.
22:59.29drahosAnd the purpose of the competition is to demonstrate basically every anti-pattern that we can.
22:59.32rurkowcewhy not mongo :v
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23:00.40drahosI've been meaning to take a look at mongo.
23:01.08drahosMy understanding so far is that, since it basically is "stuff JSON into a database" you can cut out the entire ORM crap and just JSONify your stuff and ship it away?
23:01.12drahossound about right?
23:02.07rurkowcepretty much
23:02.18Joitrurkowce:  i am now at 14.04, that icons are not a problem. but even at login screen where at top is that restart button is a missing icon, leftright side from locale settings
23:02.48Joiti did look at some apps like librewriter and anything is there
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23:06.08Joitk3b are all icons working too so far
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23:08.46Joitanother program dvd95 converter has a lot missing icons at mthe menu, properties
23:10.00rurkowceJoit: are you using kdm? :v
23:10.09Joitglabels same, lot of missing icons
23:10.31rurkowceit seeems to me like it's an issue with everything that's not a part of kde
23:10.32Joitdont know, i used that what it did install, thought its gdm :P
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23:11.14Joitrurkowce:  yes, it looks like this, when i sort it out
23:11.32Joitmost progs are installed and get missing icons afterwards
23:12.02Joitjust 1 thing dont, what did come with 14.04 and thats ibus, what i actually dont like
23:12.04rurkowcedo you have hicolor-icon-theme or gnome-icon-theme or anything :v
23:12.11Joitbut it shows a red x too in my taskbar
23:12.25Joitlet me see
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23:14.17Joitrurkowce: i actually keept the first i got and only changed the colors a bit
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23:14.35rurkowcewat
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23:16.42Joitrurkowce: i didnt install new shemes, i only made the colours a bit different
23:17.23Joitmaybe i should :p
23:17.43rurkowceJoit: by using filters in systemsettings, or what? :v
23:18.44Joityes kinda like that
23:20.06Joitbut an example, when i start firefox at bash, it shows error loading symbol, format from picture coulndt be recognized
23:20.27Joit»/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/places/folder.png«
23:21.08rurkowceis that the whole message? :v
23:21.29Joitdoe you speak german ? then i copy past it :p
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23:22.26rurkowcehttps://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=118893
23:22.32Joiterr there is more
23:22.58JoitGLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram:
23:23.09Joiti think i had gnome once seperate installed
23:23.35Joitbecause i tried to fix broken depencies with aptitude and it installed a lot of stuff
23:24.40rurkowceinstalling stuff shouldn't break things
23:25.34Joityes. i did not broken it actually, it was the upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04
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23:25.56Joiti used gnome and mythtv as far i remeber
23:26.13rurkowceinstalling stuff and then upgrading shouldn't break things
23:26.13Joitor even not gnome, it was suddenly there wth aptitude
23:26.26rurkowcetry that cache magic people mentioned in that thread on the forum
23:26.30Joiti promise, it was not my fault :p
23:26.39rurkowcethat's what everybody says
23:26.48Joiti only updaded ... really ...
23:26.52Joit:D
23:27.10Joitok let me read through
23:33.31Joitrurkowce:  ok. that was the trick. MANY thanks
23:33.52rurkowceno problem, i can paste your console output into google anytime
23:34.14Joitjust wonder, why they didnt implement it for the upgrade
23:34.36rurkowcebugreport?
23:34.54Joitok, that maybe can help to find others when they run into the same
23:35.02Joitsure. kde bug or distro bug?
23:35.22rurkowcedistro bug :v
23:35.51Joitok, i ll put tha tthen into ubuntu or kubuntu launchpad
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23:47.51Joitrurkowce:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upgrade-system/+bug/1365668
23:48.02Joitdoes that look ok ? :p
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23:49.13rurkowceJoit: seems ok :v
23:50.03Joitok, ty then. i need to go off again and do some other stuff. have fun and good evening rurkowce :) bye
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