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01:00.01 | voxadam | Is there any way to mute the audible notifications when the session is locked? I'm really tired of hearing every the arrival of each and every email message while I'm trying to sleep. |
01:00.56 | voxadam | I'd disable the notifications entirely but I find them useful. With out them I tend to forget to check my email for hours at a time. |
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01:14.47 | cordell | voxadam: turn off your speakers or mute kmail/sound completely? |
01:15.43 | cordell | really there should be a feature to disable notification sounds between hours of xx:xx and yy:yy, on these days, on these weeks, these months, etc... |
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03:03.09 | Tatsh | when i'm in tmux and after doing export $(dbus-launch) i can use kwallet but i have to type my password every time something wants to use it |
03:05.07 | ozjd | Tatsh: look at the settings for kwallet, you can set it to stay open |
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06:51.22 | fdsasddsasdf6548 | hi all, can anybody help me to know why I can't get reminders from korganizer? |
06:51.30 | fdsasddsasdf6548 | korganizer settings http://i.imgur.com/Qhvq58t.png |
06:51.38 | fdsasddsasdf6548 | reminder settings http://i.imgur.com/10gdVJ7.png |
06:51.42 | fdsasddsasdf6548 | eminder daemon looks fine (his icon is grey, reminders enabled) |
06:51.48 | fdsasddsasdf6548 | kde 4.14.1, fedora 20 |
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09:07.59 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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10:24.34 | ntz | hello |
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10:25.03 | ntz | I have little problem .. someone told me here last week that kstart does what I want but it doesn't seem like .. |
10:25.45 | ntz | I need to launch some command spawning window that the spawned window is placed on position which I specify |
10:26.16 | ntz | in details: I need to spawn mplayer that it goes on second screen |
10:27.21 | ntz | I'm not able yet to use kstart + mplayer, that mplayer window will be placed on some given position (or generally when forced fullscreen in mplayer that it goes to the screen #2 .. it always goes on primary screen #1) |
10:28.42 | leszek | ntz: whats the exact command you try ? |
10:28.52 | leszek | I tried: kstart --desktop 2 mplayer ~/Videos/Zeitgeist.flv which works fine |
10:29.15 | ntz | leszek: desktop 2 is not the same what screen 2 |
10:29.28 | ntz | desktop X consists of screen1+screen2 |
10:29.32 | ntz | two monitors |
10:30.24 | ntz | leszek: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/48944998 |
10:30.52 | ntz | ^^ screen #2 is VGA1 display .. I didn;t want to confuse you with the DISPLAY keyword |
10:31.52 | ntz | so generally DISPLAY=:0 consists of two screens |
10:31.59 | leszek | ah ok I missunderstood |
10:33.58 | leszek | ntz: besides kstart did you try the kwin configuration for windows. So did you try to right click the mplayer window icon in the top right corner and set special options for that program or window ? Basically it should also allow you to set the screen where the app window should appear+# |
10:34.52 | ntz | leszek: no prob http://www.starenka.net/ntz/displays.png ... |
10:35.26 | ntz | leszek: yeah, I know this, but that will store somewhere a new defaults for everything "mplayer" |
10:35.44 | leszek | yeah |
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10:36.11 | ntz | I just a need a ability to run `some_kde_app_wrapper [position on screen for new window] "command spawning new window"` |
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10:47.05 | leszek | ntz: normally kde apps have the -geometry option. mplayer doesn't and kstart doesn't offer such an option |
10:47.30 | leszek | the only other thing that comes to my mind is using wmctrl to somehow move the window. But indeed this is a hard one to solve |
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11:04.26 | ntz | leszek: thanks .. reading about vmctrl .. seems semi-promising |
11:04.28 | ntz | :) |
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11:07.17 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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11:27.36 | krasnayarsk | I had deleted my akonadi folders in my home folder to get kwin to work after updating akonadi-server. Now I have kmail working again. But I can't receive email. I can send them. Also my emails in my inbox are all gone. My sent items are still there. How can I get these inbox emails back? |
11:28.10 | krasnayarsk | And receive emails again? |
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12:37.11 | Lukimya | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJVcSLFXtl0 hi, what networkmanager applet is that on the video at 4:28? |
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12:41.50 | rdieter | Lukimya: I think it's one (or more?) iteration older than the current (kde4) plasma-nm |
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12:42.47 | Lukimya | rdieter: chackra still uses it and it seems to be the only one where i get my vpn actually to perform |
12:43.57 | Lukimya | the plasma-nm just shows connected, but when i check my ip on whatsmyip.org its still the same |
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12:45.35 | Lukimya | although on kubuntu it works too...... |
12:46.31 | jgrulich | Lukimya: what vpn type? |
12:46.57 | Lukimya | openvpn |
12:47.25 | rdieter | :( jgrulich , openconnect vpn (on f21) isn't working for me just now either (I'll test more later, have to leave now) |
12:47.53 | jgrulich | Lukimya: IPv4 or IPv6? |
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12:48.52 | Lukimya | jgrulich: does it help if i link you to the config files? |
12:49.44 | Lukimya | https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/openvpn/openvpn-ip.zip |
12:51.54 | jgrulich | Lukimya: and what exactly doesn't work for you? |
12:53.29 | jgrulich | Lukimya: if you are able to successfuly activate your vpn connection, then there is probably nothing what could be wrong in plasma-nm |
12:53.37 | Lukimya | I import the and give my username and password and connect. And it shows connected in the applet, but when i actually go on whatsmyip.org it still shows my real IP |
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12:54.40 | Lukimya | but it is amazing that on arch based distros except chackra it seems not to work |
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12:59.00 | Lukimya | well, chackra not exactly arch, but anyhow |
12:59.53 | jgrulich | Lukimya: hmm, maybe a different version of OpenVPN plugin |
13:00.15 | jgrulich | Lukimya: but definitely not a problem in plasma-nm |
13:00.35 | Lukimya | I would think so too. |
13:01.46 | Lukimya | the onyl thing that it does strangely, other than actually not connecting, is that it does not allow the tick-box for directly connect be active |
13:02.36 | jgrulich | Lukimya: do you mean autoconnecting? |
13:02.45 | Lukimya | yes |
13:03.00 | jgrulich | Lukimya: autoconnecting is not supported for VPN connections |
13:03.50 | Lukimya | that i disagree. whait a minute |
13:04.18 | jgrulich | Lukimya: you can only pair a vpn connection with a regular connection and activate it based on the regular connection |
13:04.49 | Lukimya | yes well anyhow. that box is greyed out |
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13:09.27 | Safa_[A_boy] | Hello. I'm using ArchLinux. I updated today my KDE to 4.14.1 and restarted the laptop. My desktop widgets are all gone, And I see the icon that indicates that the widget is used when I tried to add the widgets again. |
13:09.38 | Safa_[A_boy] | Also the background has changed... |
13:09.44 | Lukimya | jgrulich: http://postimg.org/image/5v9otqbfb/ thats what i mean |
13:10.25 | jgrulich | Lukimya: I know what did you mean |
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13:10.52 | jgrulich | Lukimya: it's greyed out because you can't set autoconnect for VPN connections |
13:11.38 | Lukimya | but it should be possible to "automatically connect to vpn, when using this connection" |
13:11.59 | Lukimya | if im not hallucinating it worked under kubuntu |
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13:14.13 | Lukimya | Safa_[A_boy]: on what distro? |
13:14.26 | Safa_[A_boy] | "Hello. I'm using ArchLinux." :) |
13:14.33 | Lukimya | oh |
13:14.50 | Lukimya | well, arch does such things sometimes |
13:15.11 | Safa_[A_boy] | But it happened only now :\ |
13:15.52 | Lukimya | well, they say nuclear power is safe, but an accident needs to happen only once |
13:16.32 | Safa_[A_boy] | Arch not such nuclear power :D |
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13:17.51 | Amadiro | Safa_[A_boy], you could try to delete the widgets config file |
13:18.01 | Amadiro | I can't recall from the top of my head where it is, somewhere in .kde4 I think |
13:18.08 | Lukimya | it is, most of the time it sleeps quietly like a volcano, but once it explodes, you need to be prepared :P |
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13:20.14 | Amadiro | Safa_[A_boy], ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
13:20.25 | Safa_[A_boy] | Yes thanks :) |
13:20.59 | Amadiro | I *think* I had that problem before and solved it that way |
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13:24.45 | Safa_[A_boy] | Ok thanks :) |
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14:53.08 | Malsasa | Hello. I am using KDE 4.10. I changed my keyboard layout into Chinese, Greek, Japanese, and Arabic, but nothing happen. The text is still Latin US. Is there any package I must install first? |
14:53.43 | ntz | Malsasa: depends one more things |
14:54.02 | Malsasa | ntz: what thing? |
14:54.06 | ntz | did you properly switched that layouts after adding them ? |
14:54.14 | Malsasa | ntz: yes. |
14:54.23 | Malsasa | Even I have rebooted twice. |
14:54.54 | Malsasa | I clicked on keyboard layout indicator, or right clicking, change the layout, same. |
14:55.09 | Malsasa | feels it is strange |
14:55.46 | ntz | hmm |
14:55.55 | ntz | what distribution do you use ? |
14:56.08 | ntz | can you see something weird in ~/.xsession-errors ? |
14:56.29 | Malsasa | is using Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit |
14:56.34 | karolwojtyla | i always use normal distribution |
14:56.36 | Malsasa | ntz: wait. |
14:57.36 | Malsasa | ntz: no, nothing error related ith keyboard or layout. |
14:57.41 | Malsasa | with* |
14:58.07 | ntz | what distrubution do you use ? |
14:59.45 | Malsasa | ntz: Ubuntu 12.04 |
15:01.21 | ntz | try asking in your ubuntu channel .. i'd guess that your issue is probably distro-specific .. it just works here out of box (and always worked - switching keyboard layouts in kde) |
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15:05.06 | Malsasa | ntz: do you use openSUSE? Okay, I will ask them. |
15:06.39 | rmrfchik_ | i wonder why locking screen take ages, i.e. 5-10 seconds to lock. |
15:06.59 | rmrfchik_ | unlocking takes also up to 10 secods |
15:07.54 | rmrfchik_ | i "strace" kdeinit4 and realized, it access("hunders paths for icons for ksmserver and greeter"). |
15:08.53 | rmrfchik_ | it literally thousands. 220501 path accesses. |
15:08.57 | rmrfchik_ | is this normal? |
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15:21.05 | edoardo_ | hi |
15:21.19 | edoardo_ | just wanted to report this |
15:21.46 | edoardo_ | there's a commercial software pirating kde artwork without attributing anything |
15:22.12 | phobos_anomaly | edoardo_: Which commercial project and do you have a link? |
15:23.16 | edoardo_ | phobos_anomaly: it's an electronic school register, used in all italian schools |
15:23.27 | edoardo_ | wait a moment for a screenshot |
15:24.06 | edoardo_ | phobos_anomaly: http://i.imgur.com/xgeWNL2.png here's a screenshot |
15:24.35 | edoardo_ | thing is, they charge a lot for a horrible product and they use stolen artwork |
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15:25.53 | edoardo_ | all icons are from kde, there are some older ones (the cartoony style) and also i think some from the gnome project |
15:26.24 | phobos_anomaly | edoardo_: Hold on a minute, I'm re-reading the license before commenting further. |
15:26.47 | edoardo_ | phobos_anomaly: ok |
15:27.57 | phobos_anomaly | edoardo_: |
15:27.58 | phobos_anomaly | Oxygen Icons can be used with computer programmes, including proprietry applications or ones covered by non-GPL licences. |
15:28.00 | phobos_anomaly | In your source code you must include a copy of the LGPLv3 licence text making it clear which files it applies to and point to http://www.oxygen-icons.org/. You must also include the SVG of the relevant icons even if they are not used by the application (this is the preferred modifiable form). |
15:28.27 | edoardo_ | phobos_anomaly: what if it is closed source? |
15:29.20 | phobos_anomaly | edoardo_: Its allowed so long as they make mention of the oxygen-icons sight in the eula presented upon install or in the help section of the app. |
15:29.30 | phobos_anomaly | and mention that the icons are under the gpl license |
15:29.37 | phobos_anomaly | my understanding of it anyway |
15:30.09 | edoardo_ | it's a web app, and you don't need to accept any eula |
15:30.20 | edoardo_ | also, there is no help section in the app |
15:30.23 | edoardo_ | so... |
15:30.52 | phobos_anomaly | edoardo_: ok, then i can put it on the gpl violations mailing list and see what comes of it if you'ld provide me with the name of the app |
15:31.17 | edoardo_ | Oh, sorry! ScuolaNext from ArgoSoftware |
15:32.01 | phobos_anomaly | ok, hold on, I'm gonna see if I can find their license agreement before I bother the mailing with this. |
15:33.03 | edoardo_ | i'm searching for it, also |
15:33.25 | edoardo_ | http://www.argosoft.it/xargo/normativaprivacy/policy.pdf |
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15:36.26 | edoardo_ | phobos_anomaly: can't find anything |
15:36.30 | edoardo_ | seems like you need to contact them |
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15:37.24 | phobos_anomaly | edoardo_: It looks like they are compliant. They have a link to the gpl v2 license on their homepage and help sections. I'm gonna put it on the mailing list anyway because they aren't providing access to the gpl'd sources that I've found. |
15:37.37 | phobos_anomaly | edoardo_: Thanks for bringing that up. :) |
15:37.45 | edoardo_ | phobos_anomaly: where? |
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15:38.13 | phobos_anomaly | argotorino.com at the bottom of the page, it's got a link to the gpl v2 license |
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15:38.51 | edoardo_ | phobos_anomaly: that's not their site |
15:39.08 | edoardo_ | it's a reseller site, and the gpl is related to Joomla |
15:39.50 | edoardo_ | their sites are: https://www.portaleargo.it http://www.argosoft.it/ |
15:40.17 | phobos_anomaly | My mistake then, something got lost in the translation. I'm putting this on the mailing list and let someone on there that speaks fluent Italian deal with it. |
15:40.40 | edoardo_ | phobos_anomaly: thanks :) |
15:40.53 | phobos_anomaly | np :) thanks for bringing that up |
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15:41.32 | edoardo_ | they are also the ones battling against free software... |
15:41.59 | phobos_anomaly | It wouldn't surprise me. So many major companies like samsung, nokia, etc are. |
15:42.14 | phobos_anomaly | they all want the free code, but don't want to follow the rules for it |
15:42.31 | edoardo_ | Nokia made Qt, so i'm ok with that |
15:43.22 | edoardo_ | Samsung releases all the sources of the kernel they use on Android smartphones |
15:43.48 | edoardo_ | and they made this new operating system that's opensource, can't remember the name tho |
15:44.20 | rainbowtux | Hi all, i was just wondering, when will we see a KDE 5.x? I see Framework and plasma 5, which are stable according to the KDE site... bit confused :) |
15:45.43 | phobos_anomaly | edoardo_: tizen? They weren't always compliant and it took a major effort to get them to be compliant. |
15:45.53 | phobos_anomaly | They still are kinda shifty about it. |
15:46.26 | edoardo_ | yeah |
15:46.33 | edoardo_ | my bad then |
15:47.26 | phobos_anomaly | ok, it's been sent to the mailing list. If I hear anything back, I'll leave you a memo. |
15:48.02 | phobos_anomaly | if you have a registered nick anyway |
15:49.38 | edoardo_ | phobos_anomaly: send a memo to edoardo |
15:49.47 | phobos_anomaly | will do :) |
15:49.51 | edoardo_ | didn't knew that this was freenode |
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16:01.41 | qqz | help I have accidentially hit some keystroke in KDE and all windows have disappeared |
16:01.54 | karolwojtyla | qqz: winkey+tab? |
16:03.03 | qqz | some programs are still running: I have disabled "show only windows of the current activity" for the windows bar |
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16:03.57 | qqz | so how to disable these activities? |
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16:05.27 | karolwojtyla | qqz: right click on your desktop -> activities |
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16:06.03 | karolwojtyla | but i recommend you to get to know them :v |
16:06.41 | qqz | there is only the choice new activity and delete activity; nothing to switch between activities |
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16:08.15 | qqz | lost my whole workplace! |
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16:08.22 | qqz | will have to restart KDE now |
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16:08.31 | qqz | no way to navigate back |
16:08.42 | qqz | the whole desktop is just malfunctioning |
16:08.59 | qqz | delete activity undefined: - does not work |
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17:29.03 | estan | i've customized my konsole to look like this: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/92104326 , and the tab icons just waste horizontal space. |
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17:29.43 | estan | looking at Qt stylesheet docs, there seems to be no way to disable icons on QTabBar::tab through CSS afaics. |
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18:01.05 | GuySoft | hey all, where is the kde version control for source located? is it svn or git? |
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18:01.45 | GuySoft | I want to checkout and build this: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/network/guidedog/ |
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18:47.59 | rdieter | GuySoft: both svn (older stuff generally), and git (newer stuff generally) |
18:48.47 | rdieter | GuySoft: in this case, you're referencing something from svn, and this should give some guidance, https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Sources/Subversion |
18:49.30 | rdieter | GuySoft: you'll most likely want anonsvn access, see https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Sources/Subversion#Checking_out |
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19:18.43 | totte | I'm trying to troubleshoot my GMail IMAP account in Kontact 4.14.1-1 on Debian Jessie, Akonadi Console displays the agent as being either "Offline" or "Server is not available". I tried restarting the agent - no dice. I tried enabling the Debugger, the Job Tracker, the Resources Scheduler and the Notification Monitor but no output is hinting at why it can't connect to the IMAP server. My phone has the exact same credentials and URLs - and works just fine. |
19:18.45 | totte | Where can I see the nitty-gritty? |
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19:43.36 | GuySoft | rdieter, hey, i managed to compile guidedog, it seems like it works fine, although its docbook format is out of date, its there a way to update it, then it will be able to compile it? |
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19:43.47 | GuySoft | i mean be able to compile it form current trunk |
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20:25.04 | moviuro | totte: also, ask in #kontact if you haven't already |
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20:42.12 | shevy | will kde win against gnome? |
20:43.40 | totte | shevy: No. |
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