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| 02:38.23 | salamanderrake | I run opensuse tumbleweed and plasma 5 and when I login I have to reset the default web browser from firefox to chrome. |
| 02:38.29 | salamanderrake | well google-chrome |
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| 08:41.56 | Crovax31_web | Hi, I'm having an issue, I have 2 screen (27" 1080p and 15.6" 4K) how can I setup something not too awefull |
| 08:41.59 | Crovax31_web | ? |
| 08:42.37 | Crovax31_web | I suppose screensize of my 4K display is not detected. |
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| 08:44.05 | Crovax31_web | I forced font dpi but now everything is way too big on the other display... while still being a bit too small en the high res one. |
| 08:44.07 | leszek | Crovax31_web: whats the general problem here ? Is your graphics driver not supporting 4k ? Do you have problems with kscreen and dual monitor setup ? |
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| 08:44.26 | leszek | Crovax31_web: ah ok thats another issue |
| 08:44.42 | Crovax31_web | yes, content lisibility/size. |
| 08:44.53 | Crovax31_web | and auto scaling on dpi. |
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| 08:45.07 | leszek | I think this can't be solved currently. As having a 1080p display side by side with a 4k display is unusual and the font rendering can't do magic |
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| 08:46.20 | leszek | The main question I am asking myself currently why the heck do you need a 1080p display when you have a 4k display. (No matter the size it should show way more than the 1080p display) |
| 08:46.32 | Crovax31_web | (note, the 4K screen is far smaller than the 1080p one, if the resolutions were inversed, I suppose the problem would be easyer to solve...) |
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| 08:47.23 | leszek | Yeah still the 15 inch display should show more on it despite being so small |
| 08:48.21 | leszek | Nevertheless. I guess you hit a limitation there. I am not even sure if any other OS can do magic detection of the monitor and make a different font rendering there. |
| 08:48.35 | Crovax31_web | I agree, but, even if it's awesome, it require attention and awkward face screen distance to be usable. |
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| 08:50.35 | Crovax31_web | DPI scaling would do the trick but, the screen size is not detected, on kde display settings, the screen reprensentation show my 4K screen rectangle as far bigger than my 27" display. |
| 08:50.47 | leszek | Crovax31_web: the only thing that comes to my mind currently to workaround this issue would be starting a differrent Xorg on that 4k display with a different user account and a different dpi font setting. This however would make it impossible to move windows from one screen to another |
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| 08:51.19 | leszek | Crovax31_web: yeah the representation is counting the pixels there I guess |
| 08:51.48 | leszek | DPI scaling can't do the trick for both |
| 08:52.17 | leszek | as basically if you have a extended desktop configuration it is indeed an extended desktop. So font rendering and dpi scaling is applied to bith |
| 08:52.20 | leszek | *both |
| 08:52.27 | Crovax31_web | I suppose your'e right |
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| 08:53.24 | leszek | so the only solution would be two different Xservers running. Nvidia has such a option already built in in their driver utility. |
| 08:53.50 | Crovax31_web | I sould try nvidia tools ay be they would help xorg configuration. As the main setting I touched is "force font dpi and don't use the one from my screen" |
| 08:53.54 | leszek | ah and there is xinerama support |
| 08:55.00 | leszek | Crovax31_web: thats not so easy. I can only recommend to take a look at xinerama support as this works with multiple Xservers working together and maybe there is an option to set different font rendering dpis. This is technically the only possible way I suppose |
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| 08:59.24 | Two_Dogs | using clementine and can not play a mms stream, could a week back, used all the obvious tricks to restore codec but i cant seem to get it |
| 08:59.24 | Two_Dogs | otherwise clementine has no issues |
| 08:59.24 | Two_Dogs | clementine 1.2.3 |
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| 09:01.29 | valorie | Two_Dogs: there is #clementine |
| 09:02.19 | Two_Dogs | valorie: yeap, posted there too |
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| 09:06.19 | valorie | for starters, try running it from konsole, and see if you get any useful output |
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| 09:07.26 | Two_Dogs | valorie: yeap, been there done that, one error, generic, 'missing gstreamer plugin' |
| 09:09.01 | valorie | ok, perhaps in the cli: `apt-cache search ^gstreamer^` |
| 09:09.07 | Two_Dogs | valorie: and went this route to, http://opensuse-community.org/ |
| 09:09.07 | leszek | Two_Dogs: clementine uses gstreamer directly as far as I know. I would really like to help you but want to remind you that this is a #kde support channel. Maybe you have more luck when you try with the command line and gst-launch to directly play the stream and see which error it returns. Maybe the guys over at #gstreamer can help you on this |
| 09:09.15 | valorie | if you are on a debian deriv. |
| 09:09.38 | leszek | Two_Dogs: make sure you have the gstreamer-*-libav package installed |
| 09:09.46 | valorie | clementine is not exactly KDE, I don't think |
| 09:10.20 | Two_Dogs | leszek: i did not think to restore gst-player, thnks leszek |
| 09:10.39 | leszek | it might be also a opensuse issue itself as I endured it incompatible nvidia driver in their repo at the 13.2 launch. Everything is possible there |
| 09:10.54 | Two_Dogs | leszek: i'll go to #gstreamer also |
| 09:10.59 | leszek | :) |
| 09:11.12 | leszek | Two_Dogs: and maybe asking on #opensuse aswell |
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| 09:12.42 | Two_Dogs | leszek: it was me, i had the codec, then i decided to do a system update on the wrong repo i think, i have sound from everything thing under the sun, except via mms stream, so, left to fixate on the only thing that does not matter but will kill me till i fix it |
| 09:13.29 | leszek | Two_Dogs: I had good experiences by rolling back stuff when using btrfs. Especially on opensuse as it comes with snapper |
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| 09:13.36 | Two_Dogs | leszek: #suse is a waste :) #gstreamer maybe |
| 09:13.59 | lordievader | Good morning. |
| 09:13.59 | Two_Dogs | leszek: i tossed btrfs cause i did not see the point, i guess i do now |
| 09:15.27 | leszek | Two_Dogs: zypper can also do some magic with dup and --from-repo parameters |
| 09:15.39 | Two_Dogs | gstreamer-*-libav <-- leszek is that one mms specific? |
| 09:16.15 | leszek | Two_Dogs: thats basically specific to all codecs "please play fine with gstreamer" |
| 09:16.41 | leszek | as libav (ffmpeg fork) is the library to play almost everything on this planet |
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| 09:34.21 | Two_Dogs | leszek: installed gst123 and pointed to a mms, and it is playing |
| 09:35.09 | leszek | Two_Dogs: and clementine still not playing ? |
| 09:36.02 | Two_Dogs | leszek: nope |
| 09:36.19 | Two_Dogs | odd aint it |
| 09:36.20 | leszek | so I guess it is compiled against a different gstreamer version then |
| 09:36.51 | Two_Dogs | leszek: way over my head now |
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| 09:38.12 | leszek | Two_Dogs: maybe clementine on buildtime of the rpm was compiled against an older version of gstreamer and not the one that plays your stream fine in gst123. So that clementines gstreamer implementation is searching for an older version to play stuff and can't find it |
| 09:38.43 | Two_Dogs | leszek: it is the latest clementine |
| 09:39.16 | Two_Dogs | unless the latest is the issue |
| 09:41.25 | Two_Dogs | nope, older does not work as well, mms only |
| 09:42.11 | leszek | Two_Dogs: it does not have to do with the clementine version rather with the version it was compiled against. Isn't clementine showing in the about window against which gstreamer version it was compiled ? |
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| 10:27.35 | cinch | i'm trying to launch kwallet: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hRc7Um5t what's missing? |
| 10:27.48 | cinch | locate kwalletd.desktop -> nothing |
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| 10:29.57 | leszek | cinch: it should be part of kde-runtime |
| 10:30.32 | leszek | cinch: on which distro are you trying to run it ? I know that debian kde live removes the kwalletd.desktop file on startup with the live scripts (or at least they did it in the past) |
| 10:32.39 | cinch | leszek: kde-runtime? ok ill install that, im on freebsd |
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| 10:35.53 | leszek | cinch: on debian the package is called kde-runtime-data. But it originates from kde-runtime so I am not sure how freebsd ports handles this |
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| 10:42.13 | cinch | leszek: now i get this: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QZb3TkiF |
| 10:42.35 | cinch | hm |
| 10:43.09 | leszek | cinch: seems like dbus is missing |
| 10:43.24 | cinch | well it's running |
| 10:43.27 | cinch | i dunno |
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| 10:45.13 | leszek | cinch: try relogin and see if it works then |
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| 10:51.38 | Two_Dogs | leszek: found the answer, Deleting ~/.gstreamer-0.10/the .bin file inside solved the problem. http://askubuntu.com/questions/448967/clementine-refuses-to-play-m4a-wma-and-wav :) |
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| 10:52.29 | cinch | leszek: i rebooted and it's working, cheers :> |
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| 10:55.08 | leszek | Two_Dogs: ah strange bug though |
| 10:55.11 | cinch | haha i just saw the strangest bug: infinite windows opening, one after another, i had to logout, must be kwalletmanager |
| 11:01.12 | Two_Dogs | leszek: i would have thought the file updated on changes to system, but not, now i have a butt load of codec installed and not sure if i really need them all, i am just happy to found the answer, btw, #gstreamer was useless, #clementine is a grave-yard , google fixes all |
| 11:02.03 | Two_Dogs | leszek: you showed an interest, and i want to say thanks for that |
| 11:02.14 | leszek | np :) |
| 11:02.43 | Two_Dogs | would love to pick your head on kde issues, but i dont have any |
| 11:03.56 | Two_Dogs | wait, do have one, i want to use sqlite instead of mariadb for kdepim, but i get an error, 'cant find driver' , would save me 50meg ram and i dont have much of a complicated kdepim |
| 11:04.59 | leszek | never had this problem before. You are sure that the akonadi-backend-sqlite is installed ? |
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| 12:32.05 | ntz | hello |
| 12:33.02 | kelvar_ | is it possible to disable apper and if so, how? |
| 12:34.06 | ntz | is there a way to give to kde4 different prefix where they (kde) look for the configuration ? I'm solving problem when I need to create a per-user configuration for kde supposed to be run only via Xvnc so I'd like to do something like that kde look for theirs ~/.kde4 files somewhere else .. say in ~/.vnc/altered_de/{.kde,.config,.whatever} |
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| 12:36.53 | axtroz | ntz: check this link: https://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/KDE_Filesystem_Hierarchy#Location_of_the_Directory_Trees |
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| 12:38.17 | ntz | thanks |
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| 14:17.39 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 14:55.27 | garrettkajmowicz | I'm using Kubuntu 14.04. Working fine until yesterday. On log-in of my user account, desktop is responsive for ~2 seconds at which point no response to keyboard, mouse inputs (cursor moves, can switch to console). I am able to perform a guest login without issue. Any suggestions on debugging? |
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| 15:00.37 | Walex | garrettkajmowicz: looks like a system issue, try #Kubuntu |
| 15:01.22 | garrettkajmowicz | Walex: Thanks! Will do! |
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| 15:27.17 | Taoki | Out of curiosity: Does KDE 4.14 use wayland? IIRC that was a system for faster rendering of windows and widgets |
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| 15:28.09 | Taoki | Or is that introduced in KDE 5 |
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| 15:29.03 | Sho_ | Taoki: It'll roll out 2015 |
| 15:29.11 | Sho_ | Taoki: In the Plasma 5.x line |
| 15:29.17 | Taoki | Ok. |
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| 15:30.14 | Sho_ | Taoki: It's a pretty big industry-wide effort, lots of odds and ends to take care of, specs to write and desktops and ports to port and so on |
| 15:30.21 | Sho_ | err |
| 15:30.24 | Sho_ | *desktops and apps |
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| 15:30.34 | Taoki | nods |
| 15:30.59 | Taoki | BTW: Is there a list of the widgets and features in KDE 4 that got ported in KDE 5? I'm worried that when my distro upgrades to it, I'll lose stuff |
| 15:31.50 | Sho_ | Taoki: Can't think of an explicit list but I think by 5.2 in January (when most distros will switch at the earliest) about 95% of the popular stuff will be there |
| 15:31.51 | ntz | Taoki: cd ~; tar czvf cfg_backup.tgz .* |
| 15:31.56 | Sho_ | Taoki: Using anythign particularly interesting? |
| 15:32.01 | ntz | ^^ and you won't loose anything |
| 15:32.09 | Taoki | ok |
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| 15:33.07 | Taoki | Sho_: I'm mostly interested in: The photo frame widget (with ability to slideshow between images), system monitor widget (showing CPU usage, full / free memory, temperatures, etc), the ability to have a wallpaper slideshow (seems to be there), and the ability to choose a cabkground image for the lock screen (the new one doesn't seem to have it yet) |
| 15:33.23 | Taoki | **background |
| 15:33.35 | Taoki | Oh... also to keep using the oxygen-transparent theme |
| 15:33.36 | Sho_ | Taoki: Incidentally porting the photo frame widget is on my personal todo for 5.2 (it's one of the last widgets from kdeplasma-addons not yet ported) |
| 15:33.46 | Sho_ | Taoki: lock screen wallpaper should be in 5.2 too |
| 15:33.54 | Sho_ | slideshow is there ... and i think some sort of system monitor is there too |
| 15:33.58 | Taoki | Awesome! |
| 15:34.10 | Sho_ | oxygen-transparent isn't ported i think |
| 15:34.14 | Sho_ | oxygen is though |
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| 15:34.44 | Taoki | Sho_: BTW, one thing I'd like to see fixed for the photo frame: Add an option to keep it from being resized based on the scale of the image if possible. That's somewhat annoying. |
| 15:34.57 | Taoki | I'd also like an ability to choose the thickness of the border |
| 15:35.09 | Taoki | And perhaps the rundness of the edges. But of course these are all details |
| 15:35.19 | Sho_ | Taoki: OK I'll keep it in mind (frankly I haven't even looked at the old one yet, so I'm open to rethinking) |
| 15:35.41 | Taoki | Awesome... thanks! Maybe put it on a TODO list... even devs tend to forget sometimes :) |
| 15:36.00 | Taoki | What about the system monitor widget? Any issues with it, or will it also make it to 5.2 |
| 15:36.18 | Sho_ | Taoki: I want to use it myself to keep reference things on the dashboard so I can quickly pull it above everything with the dashboard shortcut |
| 15:36.42 | Taoki | nods |
| 15:36.52 | Sho_ | Taoki: I'm not sure about the system monitor's status but I saw a lot of chatter scroll by from folks working on a plotter widget for it IIRC so some sort of work is happening anyhow |
| 15:37.10 | Taoki | Yay |
| 15:38.04 | Sho_ | Taoki: and this thing -> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/11/07/loadviewer.png <- already seems to work |
| 15:38.26 | Taoki | Nice. Not using that myself... most interested in the full one |
| 15:38.40 | Sho_ | right |
| 15:39.36 | Taoki | I wish it also had a "top processes" entry. I used to use that in Windows 7. It shows a list of X processes (configured) based on which is using most CPU or memory |
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| 15:53.01 | Walex | Taoki: click on the column title? |
| 15:53.20 | Taoki | column title? |
| 15:54.08 | ntz | btw, is there a way swap the position of top left corner window elemnts to the left ? |
| 15:54.12 | Walex | Taoki: in "System activity" KDE popup? Or is that too old fashioned? :-) |
| 15:54.16 | ntz | *top right |
| 15:54.25 | Sho_ | ntz: yes |
| 15:54.31 | Sho_ | in the window decoration options |
| 15:54.34 | ntz | thanks |
| 15:54.35 | Taoki | Walex: Nah... I just like the System Monitor widget is all :) |
| 15:54.36 | ntz | good |
| 15:55.47 | ntz | I have one big problem with those damned kde .. they just usually works out of the box so there's nothing for me to ask for :( |
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| 17:23.55 | ed_t | kde4 mail filtering is borked |
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| 17:29.26 | ed_t | Header contains: Subject: [arch-dev-public] Integrity Check x86_64: core, extra, community, |
| 17:29.32 | ed_t | multilib 07-11-2014 |
| 17:29.44 | ed_t | and log shows:[12:20:45] Begin filtering on message "[arch-dev-public] Integrity Check x86_64: core, extra, community, multilib 07-11-2014" fro |
| 17:29.44 | ed_t | m "repomaint@archlinux.org" at "Friday 07 November 2014 16:21" : |
| 17:29.52 | ed_t | [12:20:45] Evaluating filter rules: (match all of the following) "<any header>" <contains> "arch-dev" |
| 17:29.59 | ed_t | [12:20:45] 0 = "<any header>" <contains> "arch-dev" |
| 17:30.06 | ed_t | the header contains "arch-dev" yet kdemail is NOT filtering it... With the latest drop of kde kmail4 filters have ALL stopped working |
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| 17:30.23 | ed_t | this is on kde 4.14.2 on an up to date arch install |
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| 19:25.29 | toothe | is there a way to get rid of the tab at the bottom of konsole? |
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| 19:33.31 | rdieter_work | toothe: you can move it, but I don't think you can get rid of it |
| 19:33.44 | toothe | you can - just figured it out. |
| 19:33.46 | toothe | took me a bit though |
| 19:34.02 | rdieter_work | me too, show tabbar only when needed option |
| 19:34.09 | toothe | yes... |
| 19:34.16 | rdieter_work | thinks that should be the default, <shrug> |
| 19:34.19 | toothe | wonder if I can switch to KDE without restarting. |
| 19:34.35 | toothe | i used to do 'exec blackbox' when I ran blackbox |
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| 19:45.08 | toothe | whoa |
| 19:45.16 | toothe | I think I'm sold on KDE now that I got the terminal working as I want it. |
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| 20:12.56 | tonikasch | Hi, do you know how to change column names in detailed view mode in Dolphin? |
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| 20:14.10 | tonikasch | Hi, do you know how to change column names in detailed view mode in Dolphin? (Kubuntu 14.04.1, KDE 4.13) |
| 20:14.34 | tonikasch | Dolphin = 4.13.3 |
| 20:18.07 | rdieter_work | tonikasch: as in select which details to show? |
| 20:18.13 | rdieter_work | right click the top details bar |
| 20:19.17 | tonikasch | aha, yes, in my case there I can select another columns to be displayed... but no column name change option |
| 20:19.42 | rdieter_work | you want, for example, to rename the column labled "Size" to "blahblahblah" ? |
| 20:20.01 | rdieter_work | if so, that's not possible |
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| 20:21.27 | tonikasch | Well, exactly to rename "Date" to something like "Creation date" or "Access date" |
| 20:22.24 | tonikasch | Well, thanks a lot, I didn't know if this was possible in "front-end" or I had to change the code or file a wishlist ticket |
| 20:24.56 | tonikasch | rdieter_work: thanks again, bye (-: |
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| 22:11.28 | The_ManU_212 | hi |
| 22:11.44 | The_ManU_212 | under kde audio playback under amarok seems gstreamer broken, what can be the reason, vlc does work, system sounds work also with gstreamer as backend |
| 22:11.52 | The_ManU_212 | http://pastebin.com/T7suBJ9Z |
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