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| 00:08.04 | Schrodinger`sCat | hey |
| 00:08.26 | Schrodinger`sCat | any idea why when i restart plasma-desktop on 4.14.2 i got http://paste.kde.org/pddwugxya#line-1 ? |
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| 00:08.30 | sean_1 | So guys, I figured it was high time to change my dark background in konsole to a lighter one. However, there are some issues. Some of the colours (like GREEN, green especiall) are way too bright. How could I change this? |
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| 00:11.14 | sean_1 | eh hm forget it I think I can figure it out |
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| 00:27.33 | Drevkevac | hey, KDE is muting spotify whenever a system sound plays, any ideas for troubleshooting |
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| 00:36.47 | valorie | Schrodinger`sCat: you might ask in #plasma |
| 00:41.19 | Schrodinger`sCat | valorie: ok thanks |
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| 00:52.00 | karthikp | Drevkevac: That happens to be the current bug of the month: https://community.kde.org/Gardening#Current_Bug_Of_The_Month |
| 00:52.48 | karthikp | The issue is that when using pulseaudio, and setting the system notification volume to some value causes the volume to jump to that value when a system notification happens. |
| 00:54.23 | karthikp | The temporary workaround is to make this slider equal to whatever system volume you have: http://i.imgur.com/iiW9HRy.png |
| 00:54.36 | karthikp | That way, when a system notification happens, the volume doesn't change. |
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| 04:10.09 | Delicates | Every time I re-partition a disk, KDE spits out notices about removal/insertion of ALSA devices. Any one has any idea wtf is going on? |
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| 05:06.45 | shiggitay | Hello |
| 05:07.18 | shiggitay | for some reason, regardless of panel settings I keep getting app windows showing up on both of my displays. |
| 05:07.45 | shiggitay | I'm running the latest KDE and Funtoo Linux |
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| 05:08.23 | shiggitay | hello s8321414 |
| 05:08.34 | shiggitay | pokes blaise |
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| 05:11.20 | shiggitay | I thought it was limited to Chromium, but it's doing it with KDE system apps too.. |
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| 05:13.45 | shiggitay | I have it set to only show stuff in the current screen (using the Task Manager panel widget) but it still insists on showing up twice.... |
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| 06:23.20 | shiggitay | so yeah.... my friend and I figured it out that it's a window width issue across my two displays, but it doesn't make sense that Chromium, on a fresh launch, opens, regardless of task manager widget settings of 'only show tasks in current screen' |
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| 06:26.39 | shiggitay | would this be an Xorg issue or a KDE issue? |
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| 07:11.26 | karthikp | shiggitay: Are you saying that your two displays are mirrored or are you saying that windows are spanning two displays? |
| 07:11.55 | karthikp | Also, the task manager widget setting is about something else. |
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| 07:12.35 | karthikp | Setting it to show tasks on current screen basically means, don't show the entry of the window if the window is not on this screen. |
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| 07:15.35 | karthikp | Hmm, upon re-reading, it sounds like the issue is that the task manager widget is not respecting the show only apps on this screen setting. I'm booting up my laptop to see if I can reproduce this. |
| 07:17.44 | karthikp | Okay, can't reproduce this. I placed a panel on each of the two screens with one set to show tasks only on this screen. It worked exactly as expected. Only if I moved a window to that screen did the window show up on that task manager. |
| 07:17.52 | karthikp | shiggitay: ^ |
| 07:18.55 | karthikp | If it's not too disruptive, see removing the task manager widget and readding it fixes the problem. |
| 07:20.32 | shiggitay | karthikp, well yeah my issue arises when the window is too wide |
| 07:21.14 | karthikp | Oh. Got it. Testing that case... brb. |
| 07:21.19 | shiggitay | k |
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| 07:22.34 | karthikp | Okay, yeah. I confirm this behavior. Even if the window extends a few pixels into the other screen, it's considered as being on the screen and shows up in the task manager on that screen. |
| 07:22.41 | shiggitay | yep! |
| 07:22.52 | shiggitay | Chromium does it and it's normally maximized |
| 07:23.01 | shiggitay | I had to make it JUST narrower |
| 07:23.07 | shiggitay | and it doesn't do it |
| 07:23.29 | shiggitay | that doesn't make any sense to me as to why it's doing but yeah |
| 07:23.39 | karthikp | That I can't reproduce. I can safely maximize chromium on one screen without "triggering" the other one. |
| 07:23.49 | shiggitay | odd |
| 07:24.01 | shiggitay | hmm |
| 07:24.22 | karthikp | Try getting rid of any special settings for chromium windows (I mean, alt+f3). |
| 07:24.34 | shiggitay | well karthikp try this: drag a window in between displays and leave it there |
| 07:24.43 | shiggitay | like in limbo between the two |
| 07:24.44 | shiggitay | and ok |
| 07:24.48 | karthikp | I tested that. It definitely triggers. |
| 07:25.01 | karthikp | Which makes sense programmatically speaking. |
| 07:25.11 | shiggitay | I guess |
| 07:25.23 | karthikp | if ( window.occupiesDisplay( display ) ) ... |
| 07:25.35 | shiggitay | since it can't determine exactly which display it's in |
| 07:25.44 | karthikp | But the maximize thing shouldn't be happening. |
| 07:25.49 | shiggitay | yeah |
| 07:26.11 | karthikp | If the window is full screen on one display, only that display should think the window is present. |
| 07:26.18 | shiggitay | INDEED |
| 07:26.35 | karthikp | See if there are any window special settings that are interfering with this. |
| 07:26.37 | shiggitay | I went nuts recompiling stuff (on Funtoo Linux) |
| 07:27.11 | karthikp | Always a recipe for a fun weekend, recompiling things willy-nilly. :) |
| 07:27.19 | shiggitay | lol yeah |
| 07:27.32 | shiggitay | and I don't see any special window settings for Chrome |
| 07:27.39 | shiggitay | er Chromium |
| 07:28.05 | shiggitay | I guess having it just slightly narrower than my 24" 1080p res works for now |
| 07:28.10 | shiggitay | until a bug fix is issued or something |
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| 07:28.46 | karthikp | Hmm. Just had another idea. Maybe it depends on whether chromium is using system deco or its own. Tested it. Doesn't make a difference. Both behave as expected here. |
| 07:29.18 | shiggitay | yeah |
| 07:29.19 | shiggitay | hmm |
| 07:29.22 | shiggitay | I dunno |
| 07:29.31 | shiggitay | Hexchat here was doing it too |
| 07:29.38 | shiggitay | but my friend and I over TeamViewer fixed that |
| 07:29.47 | karthikp | How? |
| 07:29.58 | shiggitay | I don't quite know what he did lol |
| 07:30.29 | shiggitay | I think he updated some GTK themes for me? |
| 07:30.37 | shiggitay | and that solved it for Hexchat? |
| 07:30.46 | karthikp | Hmm. kwin can pin a window to appear on all desktops. But then, it physically appears on all desktops. Here, only the task manager is freaking out. |
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| 07:31.02 | shiggitay | yeah it's a kwin thing |
| 07:31.05 | karthikp | Did you try replacing the task manager with a new one? |
| 07:31.06 | shiggitay | a kwin fail |
| 07:31.10 | shiggitay | yeah I did |
| 07:31.29 | shiggitay | though I sorta worked around it by making the Chromium window slightly smaller/narrower |
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| 07:31.48 | karthikp | I strongly doubt it's a kwin thing. I've lived through lots of upheavals and kwin has been a rock of stability through all that. |
| 07:31.57 | karthikp | Simply put, it's battle-tested stuff. |
| 07:32.30 | shiggitay | hmm |
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| 07:38.38 | shiggitay | karthikp, thanks for the confirmation though. totally appreciate it |
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| 07:40.47 | karthikp | Anytime! |
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| 09:22.19 | richac | why does amarok shuffle only work when you skip backwards |
| 09:22.34 | richac | if i don't skip tracks and let it play, or if I skip forwards.....its not shuffling |
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| 09:25.06 | richac | i think what keeps happening, is it want to keep playing this album first, which overrides shuffle |
| 09:25.16 | richac | a certain album, this has happened to me on another player too, a linux thing i guess |
| 09:25.23 | richac | i wonder how its done...... |
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| 09:29.46 | richac | no thats not it....it just doesn't shuffle unless i skip backwards...wtf? |
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| 11:13.29 | GNUtoo-irssi | hi, |
| 11:13.55 | GNUtoo-irssi | I've an old tablet pc, and I'd like to use it as a tablet, as-is kde4 didn't work well, so I tried gnome3, |
| 11:14.15 | GNUtoo-irssi | gnome3 worked well with the touch but gnome3 is not meant for power users and I'm used to kde |
| 11:14.27 | GNUtoo-irssi | here are the main issue with tablet usage: |
| 11:14.46 | GNUtoo-irssi | 1) Click jiter makes entering a folder a very difficult adventure on dolphin |
| 11:15.07 | GNUtoo-irssi | 2) no way to control the music player from the lock screen |
| 11:15.15 | GNUtoo-irssi | so I wonder if all that is fixable |
| 11:15.34 | GNUtoo-irssi | I've tried looking into the settings, but I've concluded it's rather a QT issue since dolphin has the same issues on gnome3 |
| 11:17.45 | GNUtoo-irssi | so I tried qtconfig-qt4: I changed the double click interval (I lowerd it to 50ms) and something called strut which I increased (I didn't find out what it was supposed to do) |
| 11:17.52 | GNUtoo-irssi | but the issue remains |
| 11:18.12 | GNUtoo-irssi | I also tried the qt5 plasma |
| 11:18.52 | GNUtoo-irssi | but I kept all kde4 applications, because in my distro the qt5 versions are not packaged yet (an arch derived distro) |
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| 11:27.02 | lordievader | Good afternoon. |
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| 11:42.52 | cinch | if i run kwalletd as root, no problem, as a regular user i always this: |
| 11:42.54 | cinch | Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" " |
| 11:43.33 | cinch | does it need suid? my /tmp is mounted without |
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| 11:52.37 | chris__ | cinch: I am quite sure running kwalletd as root is not goood |
| 11:53.23 | cinch | yea.. |
| 11:53.32 | cinch | i need it as a local user, for kmail |
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| 12:14.56 | GNUtoo-irssi | cinch: probably because org.freedesktop.DBus is a session bus |
| 12:15.00 | GNUtoo-irssi | and not a system bus |
| 12:15.14 | GNUtoo-irssi | so you probably need to point the app to the correct session bus |
| 12:15.30 | GNUtoo-irssi | by having it use the same Xorg credentials and environment |
| 12:15.37 | GNUtoo-irssi | does sudo -E work? |
| 12:18.03 | cinch | GNUtoo-irssi: nope doesn't work, i think the env var is set incorrectly |
| 12:18.35 | GNUtoo-irssi | ok |
| 12:18.46 | GNUtoo-irssi | btw, is kde meant to work well on tablets? |
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| 12:19.07 | GNUtoo-irssi | let me look on which bus it is |
| 12:19.49 | GNUtoo-irssi | org.freedesktop.DBus is on both busses... |
| 12:20.10 | GNUtoo-irssi | but I guess this one is the session bus, otherwise it would work out of the box |
| 12:20.27 | cinch | DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/tmp/dbus-QojuCbTD3E,guid=b2426265a9af9a6ba01c89f2545cb942 and ls -l /tmp/dbus-QojuCbTD3E |
| 12:20.29 | cinch | srwxrwxrwx 1 david wheel 0 Nov 7 13:21 /tmp/dbus-QojuCbTD3E |
| 12:20.57 | GNUtoo-irssi | ah ok |
| 12:21.18 | cinch | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:22.11 | cinch | i think plasma is designed for tablets |
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| 12:23.28 | GNUtoo-irssi | hmmm, indeed kwalletd doesn't start as root |
| 12:23.57 | volty | hah, i got rid of kwalletd |
| 12:24.02 | GNUtoo-irssi | ok |
| 12:24.22 | GNUtoo-irssi | I've the qt5 plasma |
| 12:24.34 | GNUtoo-irssi | but the dolphin that I have is for qt4 |
| 12:24.44 | cinch | i'll just store the kmail password in plain text :p |
| 12:24.52 | GNUtoo-irssi | Entering a folder in dolphin is really hard |
| 12:25.01 | GNUtoo-irssi | my touchscreen has some jitter, like all the touchscreens, |
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| 12:25.20 | GNUtoo-irssi | and dolphin/qt interpret it as "I clicked on it with a mouse and I want to move it" |
| 12:25.26 | volty | I have probs with time. I want it always hwclock but it adjusts to another value after the boot. I suspect due to kde settings. What would be the right way (to have it eq to hardware time) ? |
| 12:25.42 | GNUtoo-irssi | Instead the reality is "I clicked on it to enter the folder, but the jitter made it move at the same time" |
| 12:25.45 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 12:26.04 | cinch | volty: do you have windows dual bootet? |
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| 12:30.21 | volty | cinch: yes |
| 12:31.11 | volty | ops, don't know what is 'bootet'. I have simply windows too installed. |
| 12:31.25 | cinch | then it's common to leave the bios @ non-utc (= your local time) |
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| 12:31.58 | cinch | if it's linux/bsd only: set it to UTC |
| 12:33.29 | volty | cinch: i'll try that too, thx // hi, usually the system boots after a timeout of 10 seconds, but when it wakeups (for examle due to rtcwake) there's no timeout. I see in grub.cfg there's «set timeout=-1» on «"${recordfail}" == 1» condition? 1) Is it enough to change that value? 2) What is recordfail? |
| 12:34.03 | volty | (i asked that in # grub, but nobody's answering -- more & more zombies around :) ) |
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| 12:35.08 | GNUtoo-irssi | I really wonder, there is plasma active, but it's for kde4, right?> |
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| 12:42.35 | cinch | volty: no idea :P |
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| 12:44.00 | GNUtoo-irssi | else I could try some non-qt file manager |
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| 12:44.06 | GNUtoo-irssi | that would probably do the trick |
| 12:44.15 | GNUtoo-irssi | the gnome one is clearly not for me |
| 12:44.25 | GNUtoo-irssi | but other gtk or efl ones could work |
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| 14:26.10 | user__ | Hello. My kmix 4.12 not working, when I choose between my sound device -> "set master channel" - nothing happen. |
| 14:26.38 | user__ | But in pavucontrol - always work. |
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| 14:38.48 | tcberner | Hi |
| 14:39.04 | tcberner | is there a filemanager yet to be used with plasma-5.1.0? |
| 14:40.46 | cb400f | you can use whatever filemanager you please with plasma5 |
| 14:41.07 | cb400f | but there is no kf5 based dolphin officially released yet, if that's what you mean |
| 14:41.13 | tcberner | cb400f: I mean is there a port of dolphin/konq in teh works? |
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| 15:52.01 | azlev | Hi. I've set a ssh as the initial command in konsole, but it stopped to work. How can I find out what happenning? A strace shows an execve command to ssh |
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| 20:09.57 | karthikp | Does anyone know what it means when an account and its folders are in bright red font in kmail? It seems to be synced up correctly and is fetching new mail, though. |
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| 20:23.18 | theguy312 | Is kde5 stable enough as daily driver? |
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| 20:27.36 | karthikp | theguy312: http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2014/11/where-is-kde-5-and-when-can-i-use-it.html |
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| 20:31.33 | theguy312 | karthikp: ty |
| 20:35.41 | karthikp | np |
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| 20:41.31 | daemon_erebus | Not to sound rude or anything but is there a way to get gtk based applications to look more uniform/modern under KDE4? Applications like Firefox look a bit dated. |
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| 20:43.47 | eplightning | daemon_erebus: System Settings > Appearance > Application Style > GTK. If it doesn't exist look for kde-gtk-config package in your distro |
| 20:45.06 | daemon_erebus | eplightning, Yeah I noticed that a gtk option wasn't available under Application Style, wasn't too sure about correcting that though. Thanks. |
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| 21:07.05 | chx | hi. i installed kdeplasma-applets-plasma-nm . what's next? |
| 21:07.15 | chx | i have no idea where it shows up or how can i make it show up. |
| 21:10.15 | kazugo13 | @chx Right click on panel -> Panel Options -> Add widgets |
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| 21:16.27 | chx | kazugo13: thanks. I found it in system tray too. and, surprisingly, it works. it seemed to be a bit faster connecting than wicd. |
| 21:16.47 | chx | there were so many posts about how networkmanager is awesome now, i tried :) |
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| 21:17.54 | kazugo13 | and, how awesome is it? |
| 21:18.20 | kazugo13 | some people at my university here call it the "network damager" |
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| 21:22.24 | ubuntuaddicted | afternoon, i'm trying to install a plasmoid for monitoring my nvidia gpu temp. i got the app from kde-apps.org. it says it's written in C++ and the applet is written in QML but when I run the provided scipt it errors saying: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. Can anyone help me? |
| 21:23.53 | kazugo13 | aren't there any installation/compile instructions provided in a README file? |
| 21:24.01 | chx | kazugo13: well, it works. that's a lot to say about it. i havent seen network manager working ever since kde4 was released. |
| 21:25.32 | chx | anyways, thanks. |
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| 21:29.12 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, yes, they don't work. after i run the cmake command, and i try make it returns this: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop |
| 21:29.30 | kazugo13 | so cmake fails? |
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| 21:33.03 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, i just noticed that now. i get this error: Cannot find source file: NVidiaDeviceMonitorDataEngine/nvidiaengine.cpp |
| 21:35.26 | kazugo13 | Is it this applet? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=148658 |
| 21:35.32 | kazugo13 | It compiles fine on my machine. |
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| 21:35.55 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, following the directions here: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/NVidia+Device+Monitor?content=148658 it says if the scripts don't work than I can just mkdir build && cd build and run the cmake command but it appears that it can't then find the nvidiaengine.cpp file which is in a folder up |
| 21:36.17 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, yes |
| 21:36.22 | kazugo13 | Try to check if all the files got extracted properly. |
| 21:38.07 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, im working with the linked .gz from dropbox at the bottom since he stated that it was updated to include fan speed. is that the issue? |
| 21:39.16 | kazugo13 | ah, I see |
| 21:39.25 | kazugo13 | the dropbox version is missing the correct folder structure |
| 21:40.39 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, ok, so i should start with the original folder structure, and then just overwrite the specific files that are in the dropbox .gz? |
| 21:40.48 | kazugo13 | i think that is the easiest solution. |
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| 21:45.54 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, ok, i got it BUT it's in another langauge. LOL |
| 21:46.07 | kazugo13 | yeah, the guy in the comment wrote it's in french. |
| 21:46.37 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, since i don't understand code i just figured since my system was english it would display in english. *ignorance |
| 21:47.04 | kazugo13 | yeah i guess that guy just replaced all the english text with french stuff |
| 21:47.22 | kazugo13 | at least it works now ;) |
| 21:47.42 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, would you have any idea which files to edit so it displays in english? i don't know C++ |
| 21:48.41 | kazugo13 | try the "main.qml" file |
| 21:49.02 | kazugo13 | at least in the old version there is some stuff like "Device: ", "Temperature: ", etc. |
| 21:49.42 | kazugo13 | at the bottom of the file |
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| 22:05.34 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, yeap, found it. what's the difference between main.qml and main.qml~. I don't have an option to edit main.qml~ with kate? |
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| 22:09.23 | kazugo13 | everything that ends with a ~ is usually a backup created by some editor like kate or gedit |
| 22:09.43 | kazugo13 | (this is more common in the gnome desktop environment) |
| 22:09.53 | kazugo13 | you can safely delete "main.qml~" |
| 22:09.57 | ubuntuaddicted | do i need to uninstall that plasmoid if i'm rebuilding it from source? |
| 22:10.11 | ubuntuaddicted | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.23 | kazugo13 | shouldn't be necessary, the install process should overwrite the old version |
| 22:10.38 | ubuntuaddicted | kazugo13, ok, all i can do is try i guess. :) |
| 22:10.53 | kazugo13 | that's right, you learn the most by trying ;) |
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