| 00:00.01 | Oksana | Third largest species of tortoise in the world :-) |
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| 00:01.33 | Oksana | "A fully-grown sulcata is strong and can easily move furniture and damage a typical house or apartment wall. When they start to dig up the property, it looks something like a mine field." |
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| 00:02.12 | Oksana | It's great that you have a yard. |
| 00:03.10 | krzx | yes it broke out of the terarium it was in not to long ago at the store |
| 00:03.30 | Oksana | It is not easy finding places with a half-acre or more, which is what a fully-grown sulcata needs. |
| 00:03.30 | krzx | broke plexiglass and wood and cracked the front door of the store |
| 00:03.40 | Oksana | Heh :-) |
| 00:04.00 | Oksana | Did they expect a cute four-inch tortoise for infinity? |
| 00:04.31 | krzx | it set off the alarm in the middle of the night and cops went there and the alarm company had to call the owner |
| 00:07.17 | Oksana | As the conservation organisations tell people: do not buy a small sulcata; it will grow and you will not know what to do with it. Buying large sulcata is nice, because otherwise it could end up dead. Zoos do not take them. Rescues are overwhelmed. Adopting a large sulcata is good :-) |
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| 00:08.58 | Oksana | Returning it to its native place would be nice, if their native place was protected from those poachers who again bring small sulcatas to pet shops with words to future owners that it will not grow at all :-/ |
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| 00:10.17 | Oksana | Adopting a large sulcata is good :-) Just be prepared to having a tortoise as large, and probably as active, as a large dog :-) |
| 00:10.49 | krzx | 19:07 < Oksana> As the conservation organisations tell people: do not buy a small sulcata; it will grow and you will not know what to do with it. Buying large sulcata is nice, because otherwise it could end up dead. Zoos do not take them. Rescues are overwhelmed. Adopting a large sulcata is good :-) |
| 00:10.54 | krzx | thats why im tryn to get it |
| 00:11.06 | krzx | it wasnt exactly taken from wild |
| 00:11.10 | krzx | it was captive bred |
| 00:11.47 | Oksana | Yes, thank you. :-) |
| 00:12.01 | Oksana | Definitely going to send a donation your way :-) |
| 00:12.09 | krzx | im afraid it might end up in bad care just tryn to be passed off at the last minute u kno |
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| 00:12.33 | krzx | i used to deal turtles (not tortoises) for quite a few years and it was mostly turtle resuce |
| 00:12.39 | krzx | people didnt want to take care of them anymore |
| 00:12.53 | Oksana | Large? |
| 00:13.05 | krzx | you cant release a captive animal back into the wild by law here |
| 00:13.13 | krzx | if its been in captivity for x amt of time |
| 00:13.20 | krzx | also you cant release non-native species |
| 00:13.30 | Oksana | Not-native, yes, a problem. |
| 00:13.49 | krzx | thats how florida got the snake problem |
| 00:13.55 | krzx | with those boas and stuff |
| 00:13.59 | krzx | pythons |
| 00:14.23 | Oksana | Rehabilitating a captive bred animal to be able to survive in the wild could have been possible. But it requires a lot of resources. |
| 00:14.26 | krzx | lots were pets people couldnt handle anymore so they let em go in the everglades over the past few decades and they started breeding |
| 00:14.41 | Oksana | Yeah, heard of giant pythons here. |
| 00:14.47 | krzx | where are you |
| 00:14.57 | Oksana | Across the ocean from you. |
| 00:15.06 | krzx | ? |
| 00:15.13 | Oksana | Au |
| 00:15.14 | krzx | i live in virginia usa right on the coast |
| 00:15.56 | Oksana | Yep, you live in Virginia Beach. |
| 00:16.23 | krzx | close |
| 00:16.27 | krzx | im in newport news |
| 00:16.32 | krzx | about 45 mins from va beach |
| 00:16.51 | krzx | i used to live in va beach but i got in alot of trouble there and moved |
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| 00:18.30 | krzx | i was even banned from there for over 5 years until about last summer |
| 00:18.57 | krzx | part of my release plan and probation last time i got in trouble was not to go there for anything, as i wasnt an actual resident of the city |
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| 00:20.09 | Oksana | Heh... Hopefully, your adoption of kayla will not cause any trouble. |
| 00:22.04 | krzx | haha |
| 00:22.06 | krzx | no |
| 00:22.16 | krzx | more incentive for me to not get in trouble |
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| 00:22.43 | krzx | i had to get rid of all my turtles a couple years ago when i had a divorce and was moving all around for a while |
| 00:23.00 | krzx | and my geckos and toads and squirrel and savannah monitor |
| 00:23.22 | krzx | ex didnt wanna take any of them |
| 00:24.48 | Oksana | Toads :-) The kind of toads that hunt snakes? |
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| 00:34.27 | krzx | Oksana: yes mine could have possibly eaten snakes |
| 00:34.34 | krzx | they eat bugs and rats |
| 00:34.57 | krzx | my soundclad pic is one of my toads taking a poop |
| 00:35.16 | krzx | https://soundcloud.com/krzxbleach |
| 00:37.32 | Oksana | Heh... |
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| 07:37.30 | mah454 | Hello |
| 07:37.48 | mah454 | I use KDE-4.14.1 |
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| 07:38.49 | thiago | richac: systemsettings, find the screen saver option, turn off the locking option |
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| 07:39.04 | mah454 | Bridge NetworkManager not work . after create bridge i must manualy use brctl command and add interface to bridge "brctl addif br0 eth0" . |
| 07:39.53 | richac | thiago: i've disabled screen energy saving from the power options, but that hasn't done it. I've been trying to figure out why my cpu is so hot after it goes idle...and its kscreenlock still processing |
| 07:40.27 | mah454 | How can talk about this problem to kde developers ? |
| 07:41.22 | richac | thiago: the screen doesn't lock anymore, but there is a whole bunch of kscreenlocke proceseses eating away at my cpu when its idle |
| 07:42.12 | richac | thiago: maybe i have to turn it back on ? lol |
| 07:42.50 | richac | actually no i think thats why i turned it off in the first place |
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| 07:54.00 | richac | nevermind i found the option |
| 07:54.09 | richac | its in display and configuration....has nothing to do with the power settings |
| 07:55.26 | moviuro | mah454: what happens if you use NetworkManager from CLI to do the bridge stuff, does that work? |
| 07:56.20 | mah454 | moviuro: NetworkManager from CLI ? What command ? |
| 07:56.32 | moviuro | I don't know, you're the one using it ;) |
| 07:56.43 | moviuro | search your distr'os wiki, ask Google... |
| 07:56.51 | mah454 | moviuro: nmcli show connections |
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| 07:57.57 | mah454 | moviuro: I report this problem to bugs.kde.org |
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| 08:02.34 | moviuro | mah454: if it doesn't work from CLI, then there is no need to report it, as it would be a NetworkManager issue |
| 08:03.36 | moviuro | mah454: try to make it work in CLI and if that works, you could add to your bug report the commands you ran |
| 08:04.03 | thiago | but knm might not have configured it properly |
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| 08:31.10 | Safa_[A_boy] | Hello. I'm using kdesvn, It's not showing the modified items in a special color like before. |
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| 08:42.11 | Linnak | Hi, when I install Ubuntu Minimal CD there are theree KDE options. I know Desktop and full but what is KDE active? |
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| 09:23.38 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
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| 09:25.45 | cousin_luigi | I've had a weird problem for months now. When I disable the wired connection in networkmanager, kdeinit can't start apps anymore. This even with a fresh OS (opensuse) installation and KDE profile. Has any of you noticed anything like this before? |
| 09:28.23 | xiaomiao | sounds like hostname breakage |
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| 09:28.28 | xiaomiao | which shouldn't be possible |
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| 10:13.23 | cousin_luigi | xiaomiao: Were you replying to me? |
| 10:13.52 | xiaomiao | cousin_luigi: yes |
| 10:14.18 | xiaomiao | that kind of breakage happens when the hostname changes in unexpected ways (hello NM!) and then X gets confused usually |
| 10:14.51 | cousin_luigi | xiaomiao: Interesting. The first time I hear a clear hypothesis about my problem. |
| 10:15.11 | cousin_luigi | xiaomiao: Is the hostname set via dhcp via default? |
| 10:15.51 | xiaomiao | yes, and your system may have its own idea what to do without dhcp |
| 10:15.53 | cousin_luigi | (my server definitely supplies it) |
| 10:16.07 | xiaomiao | and since you said Suse I presume there's systemd involved, so good luck ;) |
| 10:16.16 | cousin_luigi | :'( |
| 10:16.27 | cousin_luigi | xiaomiao: It's already a step ahead. |
| 10:16.51 | cousin_luigi | I'll run a few tests to see if I can verify this. |
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| 13:11.56 | xrg_ | Hello. How can I reset the list of URLs kwebkitpart stores passwords for? I have some sites excluded, now want to store them.. |
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| 13:32.45 | rdieter_work | xrg_: it should be in kwallet (you can use kwalletmanager to check) |
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| 13:33.40 | xrg_ | rdieter_work: I ask about URLs /not/ yet in wallet, where the " |
| 13:33.56 | xrg_ | the "do you want to store passwd for this site" prompt has stopped appearing |
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| 13:34.41 | rdieter_work | may be the same place |
| 13:34.47 | rdieter_work | xrg_: have you checked? |
| 13:36.00 | xrg_ | rdieter_work: yes, an old entry exists in wallet, is not used. Tried renaming it, konq. doesn't ask me again to store. |
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| 13:40.27 | rdieter_work | xrg_: I think I found it, ~/.kde/share/apps/khtml/formcompletions, [NonPasswordStorableSites] section |
| 13:41.56 | xrg_ | rdieter_work: ~/.kde4 , you mean. I have cleared that, too :S Was it in kde3 that we used to have a kcm widget for that list? |
| 13:42.14 | rdieter_work | don't remember |
| 13:42.29 | rdieter_work | I did mean ~/.kde, that's the default at least, some distros change that though |
| 13:43.08 | rdieter_work | whatever this points to: kde4-config --path data |
| 13:46.12 | xrg_ | I have kde2, 3 and 4 folders here ;) |
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| 13:48.59 | thisnick | Hi, is it possible in kate to make a diff with split pane, like in ediff/emacs? |
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| 14:00.38 | Safa_[A_boy] | http://i.imgur.com/0fBK9ok.png |
| 14:00.49 | Safa_[A_boy] | UTF-8 Problem with KF5? :\ |
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| 14:59.51 | cousin_luigi | I've reinstalled the OS and I'm having again a problem I had solved a while ago. tcpdump shows dns traffic I can't account for, all for sites I recently visited. Does kde have some caching mechanism I'm not aware of? |
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| 15:29.59 | brita_ | hey, i just did something (accidentally pressed some key) and a window disappeared. I can't find it, but I can see that it is still running with 'ps' |
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| 15:30.20 | brita_ | is there a way to pop up the window again by the PID? or something like that.. |
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| 15:46.57 | chadwick | When's Frameworks 6.0 due? |
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| 16:08.36 | rdieter | chadwick: I don't there's anything post 5.x planned yet, why? |
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| 16:09.49 | rdieter | chadwick: fyi, current release schedules are available @ https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules |
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| 16:38.22 | rodolfojcj | hello! |
| 16:39.25 | rodolfojcj | I have some alias for ssh connections defined in ~/.ssh/config, so from a shell I execute "ssh hostalias" working fine |
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| 16:40.18 | rodolfojcj | but from dolphin when I do "sftp://hostalias" it fails with "Authentication failure" message showing in a red bar with no more details |
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| 16:40.52 | rodolfojcj | authentication to "hostalias" uses public key (no password authentication allowed) |
| 16:40.57 | BluesKaj | brita_, try alt+tab |
| 16:41.12 | rodolfojcj | does anyone has a clue of that failure cause and possible solutions? |
| 16:41.22 | brita_ | BluesKaj: ty, i got over it already |
| 16:41.33 | brita_ | i switched activity accidentaly |
| 16:41.40 | BluesKaj | brita_, ok how did you find it ? |
| 16:41.47 | BluesKaj | ok |
| 16:42.11 | brita_ | it was nowhere to be found, i ended up killing the application and loosing my progress before i discovered this |
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| 16:43.28 | BluesKaj | never bothered with activities, too lazy to set it up :) |
| 16:43.50 | brita_ | BluesKaj: me neither, and tehrefore i didn't even realized what happened |
| 16:44.11 | brita_ | only thing i tried to do with them was unistalling :7 |
| 16:44.16 | brita_ | but things stopped working :P |
| 16:44.53 | BluesKaj | I just use virtual desktops |
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| 16:46.00 | krzx | Oksana: <3 |
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| 17:26.39 | nick[0] | I just upgraded to Debian Jessie, KDE 4.14.2. Baloo doesn't seem to be mining full-text from anything that's not plain text. :-( |
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| 17:30.04 | Linnak | Hello. I'd like to know which theme should I install to make synaptic look good on KDE |
| 17:31.32 | nick[0] | for Debian, and I think Ubuntu, it's kde-config-gtk-style and kde-config-gtk-style-preview |
| 17:32.30 | nick[0] | Linnak: and also gtk2-engines-oxygen and gtk3-engines-oxygen |
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| 17:33.50 | Linnak | All four is installed |
| 17:35.09 | nick[0] | got into system settings, applications appearance |
| 17:35.12 | Linnak | I just rebbot maybe that's the prombel |
| 17:35.18 | Linnak | reboot |
| 17:35.34 | Linnak | problem |
| 17:35.35 | nick[0] | click on gtk, then select oxygen as your gtk2 and gtk3 theme. |
| 17:35.41 | Linnak | ok |
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| 17:37.34 | Linnak | The were already selected az oxigen-gtk |
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| 17:42.17 | nick[0] | Linnak: try clicking the little buttons next to the dropdox box to chose GTK theme, to see if the preview works |
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| 17:43.17 | Linnak | nick[0]: Yes it shows the preview |
| 17:43.32 | Linnak | On both |
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| 17:47.05 | nick[0] | Linnak: everything looks good so far. If you change your color scheme and restart firefox, does it use the new color scheme? |
| 17:47.07 | sid3129 | plz help i am having a problem with building kde |
| 17:47.11 | sid3129 | http://paste.kde.org/ph38bg8zi |
| 17:47.42 | sid3129 | plz have a look at this it says Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5Svg" |
| 17:48.00 | Linnak | nick[0]: I' ve just changed also the style. Works |
| 17:49.11 | nick[0] | Linnak: in that case, I'm guessing that you're running synaptic as root (makes sense for a package manager!), but your style/look/theme settings for root are ugly. |
| 17:49.16 | nick[0] | Linnak: kdesudo /usr/bin/systemsettings |
| 17:50.13 | nick[0] | Linnak: I like using a contrasting colour scheme for superuser windows, to remind me to not accidentally break things ;-) |
| 17:50.46 | Linnak | That was the output: Can not get ibus-daemon's address. BusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon |
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| 17:52.25 | nick[0] | Linnak: I don't use ibus...try pulling up krunner(alt+f2) type in systemsettings, then click the wrench |
| 17:52.33 | Linnak | nick[0]: Ok. it's working now. I used alt+f2 |
| 17:52.36 | Linnak | that's it |
| 17:53.51 | nick[0] | Linnak: lick the box "run as a different user" and type in root and root's password |
| 17:53.57 | nick[0] | *click* |
| 17:54.28 | Linnak | pf systemsettings PID: 2583 Szignál:Segmentation fault (11) |
| 17:57.26 | Linnak | nick[0]: Where should I click the box? |
| 17:58.21 | nick[0] | Linnak: did you find the run as a different user box? |
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| 17:58.35 | Linnak | No where to look for |
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| 18:01.59 | sten__ | Linnak: my net went down for a bit there. What was the last thing you wrote? |
| 18:02.08 | Linnak | No where to look for |
| 18:02.23 | Linnak | Where to for the run as a different user box? |
| 18:02.33 | Linnak | *look* |
| 18:03.49 | sten__ | when you type systemsettings into krunner, you will see a gear appear, and the text "Run krunner" to the right of that is a wrench. Click the wrench |
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| 18:06.07 | Linnak | I already reached systemsettings as root. Everything is the same set as user settings |
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| 18:07.43 | Linnak | Except the font type. And the oxigen gtk2 and gtk3 theme have also preview |
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| 18:09.25 | nick[0] | Linnak: Try changing roots color scheme to something wild, just for the purposes of testing. After that, close and reopen synaptic and tell me what you see |
| 18:10.13 | nick[0] | (of course, click apply first, or it won't work) |
| 18:11.15 | Linnak | In root system settings when I apply it it doesn't change to the selected color |
| 18:11.30 | Linnak | So the problem is here |
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| 18:12.53 | Linnak | I can change the Icon but not the color |
| 18:13.57 | nick[0] | Linnak: and when you restart synaptic, no change? |
| 18:14.10 | Linnak | Nothing |
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| 18:16.48 | nick[0] | Linnak: ok, it sounds like you've found a bug in how theming works. What distribution are you running? |
| 18:17.07 | Linnak | Kubuntu |
| 18:18.33 | nick[0] | Linnak: which version, and with or without the updated KDE ppa? |
| 18:18.33 | Linnak | I have another distro in Virtualbox called Netrunner which has Synaptic and looks good. |
| 18:18.58 | Linnak | I installed Minimal CD and then chosed Kubuntu desktop |
| 18:19.05 | Linnak | not kubuntu full |
| 18:19.16 | Linnak | but I think it doesn't matter |
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| 18:21.02 | nick[0] | Linnak: in principle it shouldn't matter, and it wouldn't matter on Debian...what version of Kubuntu? No extra ppas? |
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| 18:23.42 | Linnak | 14.04 |
| 18:24.01 | cousin_luigi | I recently downgraded from plasma5 to kde4 and this https://i.imgur.com/jVorV8G.jpg what I see after login. Is this a profile problem or a package problem? |
| 18:24.11 | Linnak | Nope. Pure virgin. Freshly installed |
| 18:26.09 | nick[0] | Linnak: yeah, that's a version they'd care about enough to fix this bug. Have you already ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ? |
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| 18:28.49 | nick[0] | Linnak: I've got a run now. After you update and upgrade, I'd get on the #kubuntu channel and ask someone to help you file a bug report. |
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| 18:48.59 | dexta | evening |
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| 19:28.12 | rindolf | dexta: hi. |
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| 19:45.23 | cousin_luigi | I recently downgraded from plasma5 to kde4 and this https://i.imgur.com/jVorV8G.jpg what I see after login. Is this a profile problem or a package problem? |
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| 19:54.16 | dbacc | hey! I'm having a setup with kde 4.14.2.-1 on arch64. I want to configure DualView with Nvidia Optimus and I got to the point where xrandr shows my main screen and several virtual screens (where one correponds to my externally attached screen) http://pastebin.com/dTbYNwjE . Unfortunately, if I set the virtual screen to the full resolution in kde settings, kde will show a second desktop, but only the part of it that corresponds to the low |
| 19:55.30 | BluesKaj | cousin_luigi, if you have separate / and /home partitions then recommend a clean install to / and just save the /home mountpoint in ubiquity without formatting of course |
| 19:55.51 | cousin_luigi | BluesKaj: it's a VM, I'd like to salvage if possible. |
| 19:56.41 | cousin_luigi | I'll create another user and see if it can log in |
| 19:57.06 | BluesKaj | cousin_luigi, in that case I have no experience with salvaging |
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| 20:00.42 | cousin_luigi | well, another user can log in, so at least I know it's just the profile |
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| 20:08.00 | sedeki | is there a KDE channel for developers? |
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| 20:10.38 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: plasma/kde generally handles upgrades, but downgrade config handling is often not supported |
| 20:12.27 | Spacy | Is there a screensaver for a picture slideshow that doesn't have transitions? |
| 20:12.45 | Spacy | Or where the transitions are very simple OR can be changed? Because the default one in KDE 4.* seems very...over the top :c |
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| 20:17.01 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: yeah, I guessed as much:/ |
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| 20:23.39 | dbacc | which kde packages are needed to run "kscreen-console bug"? |
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| 20:27.23 | rdieter | dbacc: probably distro-specific (on fedora that's included in 'kscreen' package) |
| 20:30.23 | dbacc | rdieter: got it, thanks |
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| 21:51.44 | knwld | hi there |
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| 22:16.43 | jthomas__ | Good day! Running KDE 4.14.2 on Debian Testing. Is there a theme where minimized windows aren't faded in the taskbar? They're very hard to read in the taskbar, and those minimized windows are exactly the ones I need to read! |
| 22:17.01 | jthomas__ | When they're big, I don't need to search for them down there. |
| 22:18.33 | knwld | hello ! You mean the font is a bit grey-ish and the title of the application is harder to read ? |
| 22:18.41 | knwld | (my english isn't native) |
| 22:19.08 | knwld | iIf that is the problem, i'm pretty sure there is a way to not fade them |
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| 22:19.37 | knwld | somewhere in system settings > applications appearance maybe |
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| 22:20.35 | knwld | if there isn't any way, an effet enable the possibility to see a miniature of the window when you hover your mouse on the application in the taskbar jthomas__ |
| 22:21.07 | jthomas__ | yes that works I suppose |
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| 22:22.57 | jthomas__ | not what i want tho, but it works |
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| 22:31.26 | jthomas__ | no, that really doesn't work, I have to hover a lot before |
| 22:31.39 | jthomas__ | I find what I want, rather than clicking on the correct one immediately |
| 22:32.59 | knwld | you have alt+tab... A bit faster |
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| 22:34.15 | knwld | i'm pretty sure you can fix te faded font changing stuff in system settings -> Application appearance -> colors |
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| 22:41.28 | jthomas__ | nothing has an effect, not that i can see |
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| 22:44.59 | knwld | hmm :( sorry cant help |
| 22:45.02 | knwld | i have to go |
| 22:45.07 | jthomas__ | thanks for trying |
| 22:45.11 | knwld | jthomas__: i hope you find a solution |
| 22:45.20 | knwld | good evening |
| 22:46.03 | jthomas__ | good evenig |
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| 23:53.49 | CounterPillow | Is there any workaround for this bug? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284867 |
| 23:55.44 | CounterPillow | oh, I see, there is, using fish:// |
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