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00:14.32DecaffeinatorHey guys, I was wondering if anybody knows what process controls the kcmodules. I'd like to renice them so my graphics tablet has higher priority.
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00:20.24bibaheuhi people!
00:20.34bibaheuis there a way to run a command in a konsole profile?
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01:57.33toan_hi, can someone help me please, my kde4 was running properly, until it can't start anymore
01:57.58toan_i login, and a bug dialog box opened, now, i see windows, but kde isn't running
01:58.10toan_how do i start kde againn from the command line
01:58.29toan_can i tell kde to flush the save session, and try to start from a new desktop setting?
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01:59.30StallmanuIIRC .kde and .config
01:59.51Stallmanu*.kde4
02:00.38toan_please help me, i have to use cairo doc temporarily  to navigate my desktop
02:01.36Stallmanutry moving .kde4 and .config
02:01.54toan_what?
02:02.02toan_deleting it?
02:02.06Stallmanuno move them
02:02.11Stallmanurename them to something else
02:02.19Stallmanuand then try logging in a KDE session again
02:02.20toan_ok,
02:02.22Stallmanuit should reset it
02:02.26toan_how do i start kde back up
02:02.34Stallmanulog out and back in
02:02.51toan_well, i know so much about gnome, i can just use gnome-panel or gnome-session to kickstart gnome again
02:03.01toan_how do i just kickstart kde again?
02:03.18Stallmanuits easier to just login again but if you must alt+f2 and run plasma-desktop
02:03.22toan_i dont even have a logout menu, i have to reboot or relaunch lighdm
02:03.36Stallmanuctrl+alt+backspace 2 times?
02:03.58Stallmanuthat automatically logs me out, but maybe its an opensuse shortcut only
02:04.42toan_i think the recent kubuntu update i did yesturday, broke everything
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02:07.51toan_QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
02:07.51toan_QDBusObjectPath: invalid path ""
02:07.51toan_QGraphicsLinearLayout::insertItem: cannot insert null item
02:08.08toan_that's why plasma can't start
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04:35.51DecaffeinatorI was wondering if anybody knows what process controls the kcmodules. I'd like to renice them so my graphics tablet has higher priority.
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04:41.15Pinkamena_Ddoes anyone know what file I can set default screen resolution for new users.
04:42.02Pinkamena_Dright now I can create a user and when they log in with NX or RDP the screen resolution is way too large, but I can set it with the system settings application and it will stay after that
04:42.19Pinkamena_DI just want to avoid making new users go through this annoyance
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05:03.32kristalI'm trying to find a way to have virtual desktops be separate users... I'm often logged in as two people and it's painful flipping between right now because one is on tty6 and tty4
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07:02.06donniezazen_Are there latest ISOs of Plasma Active for Nexus 7? The one on the wiki are as old as July 2013. And MOSLO is as old as Dec 2012
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07:39.34arvutkde4 can be made to have different keyboard layouts for different programs, right?
07:40.13lordievaderGood morning.
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07:43.47svuorelaarvut: I haven't seen that, and it is one of my most annoying misfeatures on ms windows.
07:43.51arvutlordievader: morning
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07:44.32arvutsvuorela: what does it have to do with m$ winblows?
07:44.55arvutsvuorela: I asked a kde specific question, not "gui in general"-related
07:45.15svuorelaarvut: I haven't seen it, and I think it is a misfeature that I would fight to remove if it existed.
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07:46.04svuorelaI have tried systems where you set keyboard layout per application, and it is highly annoying
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07:47.10arvutsvuorela: it can be set globaly, but I was told it could be do per application too, altho I wanna do it with setxkbmap command due to calling the program that needs the specific keymap from cli
07:47.26arvutsvuorela: and this feature is great if you have use for it
07:47.36svuorelaarvut: I'm curious. what's your use for it?
07:47.39arvutsvuorela: gui's that lack it are limited in a way
07:48.18arvutsvuorela: doesn't matter. its not the issue. but I want a specific layout for it, while keeping my global layout.
07:48.37arvutand I want it done thru cli
07:48.55svuorelaI*m not sure it is something x11 supports
07:49.16arvutit is something that I'm somewhat sure that kde4 supports
07:49.44lordievaderHey arvut, how are you?
07:50.56svuorelaarvut: maybe you can do a kwin script that detects your window and calls setxkbmap when that window gets focus and setxkbmap again when it loses focus.
07:51.12arvutlordievader: good. Can you help me solve my issue?
07:51.45lordievaderarvut: I merly use one keyboard layout.
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07:53.23arvutsvuorela: yes, the problem is that switching it from the keyboard layout applet on the panel will not affect this given application, it has to be done from cli in order for it to work
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09:03.47sidihi there. Xfce user here. I'm curious to know if KDE has a replacement ready for XSMP and if so what it looks like
09:04.08sidiI'm trying to figure out if I should whine to the GNOME/GTK devs for them to standardise their own session management API since they dropped XSMP support
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09:07.36ntzhello
09:07.58ntzis there please some system wide (for kde, so ?phonon) equalizer module for PA input ?
09:08.11ntzcan't find anything like that in my repos
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09:24.24NiseVoidWhy does KDE have >250MiB of wallpapers included?
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09:30.24arvutNiseVoid: cause a majority of its users have enough space for that and love eyecandy?
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09:31.01arvutntz: I read somewhere that either alsa or PA can be built with an EQ built in
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09:31.36arvutntz: haven't really made much investigation in the area tho since I use a Denon amplifier for the job
09:32.34arvutntz: I just want alsa to output whatever audio I play thru the s/pdif cable between my soundcard and amp
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11:52.16terminatorhello there, i have a problem with kde resolution which is not supported with my current led LG 1366X768  monitor. so is there any solution to correct the resolution?
11:53.28ntzterminator: does `xrandr -q' list your mode ?
11:54.35terminatorntz i am using suse 10.1 with yast control center for configuration.
11:54.57ntz10.1 is too old .. not supported, dead and cold
11:55.24ntzand xrandr -q will work there too
11:56.30terminatorbut it is released in 2006, xp which released back in 2001 supporting flawlessly.
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11:58.10ntzterminator: again .. in 10.1 were kde 4.0.x == dead and moreover suse 10.1 is miles far from its EOL
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11:58.55ntzand anyway, I requested some output from you and you didn't provided it
11:59.01ntzwords are cheap
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13:55.30DiscipleOfDante_Hello I am usng Plasma 5 and KF5 on manjaro unstable (which is basically just arch with a few minor differences) and I am having trouble with KMix. It seems to require the old oxygen icons to function properly and without them is prone to severe lag, even freezing my entire system. Any idea what is up with this?
13:56.31DiscipleOfDante_I have kf5.4 and Plasma 5.1.1
13:57.00DiscipleOfDante_I mean to ask, is there anyway I can break the dependency on Oxygen icons and make it use breeze icons, which look so much better as is?
13:57.05DiscipleOfDante_Also is there a Breeze gtk?
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14:08.54Fuduskcmshell4 icons, then choose breeze. Oxygen is still needed because Breeze is incomplete and needs the old set for some things
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14:09.26FudusBreezegtk hasn't made a stable release yet.
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14:11.24FudusIf Breeze is selected in kcmshell4 icons, select another set and then go back to Breeze, 5/4 compat is a little buggy.
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14:14.05DiscipleOfDante_Fudus: Thanks, and I will try that
14:15.16DiscipleOfDante_Fudus: I have no kcmshell4
14:15.23DiscipleOfDante_Is there a config file I can edit manually
14:16.39FudusRemove the 4 and try?
14:16.42Fudusagain*
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14:16.58DiscipleOfDante_also not there
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14:17.11ShalokShalomhi there
14:17.33nemysishi ShalokShalom
14:17.48ShalokShalomwhen my laptop reach 5% of its battery charge, shut it into sleep mode.
14:18.00ShalokShalomthis happens in 30 secunds, can i change this counter ?
14:18.06ShalokShalomhi nemysis :D
14:18.09anonzadasgo to powerdevil
14:18.13ShalokShalomthanks
14:18.32anonzadasenergy saving options
14:18.34anonzadassearch there
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14:19.08ShalokShalomi already search there
14:19.14ShalokShalomi use KDE since 2 years
14:20.20ShalokShalomits just possible, to change what happens on 5%
14:20.24ShalokShalomnothing more
14:20.27WalexShalokShalom: look at the power management configuration for your distribution
14:20.38Fudus~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals under [Icons] Theme=breeze
14:20.47ShalokShalompowerdevil is that ?
14:20.58ShalokShalomKaOS, pure KDE Distro.
14:20.59WalexShalokShalom: that's fairly popular
14:21.11ShalokShalompowerdevil is here
14:21.18ShalokShalomagain: no choice here to change that
14:21.21DiscipleOfDante_Fudus: I found the config kdeglobals in ~/.kde4/share/config/ and the icon theme is set to breeze-dark in there, which is what I want it to be
14:21.24Fudusmenu,type energy, on low battery tab, whatever
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14:24.11Fudus~/.config/kdeglobals too? You might need to relog in for all apps to recognize it.
14:24.55WalexShalokShalom: PowerDevil is the GUI frontend that KDE provides for the power subsystem in your distro.
14:25.07ShalokShalomi know
14:25.15ShalokShalomagain: no choice here to change that
14:25.24ShalokShalomwhere can i change this counter please ?
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14:25.46WalexShalokShalom: look at "Advanced Settings" in https://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kcontrol/powerdevil/
14:26.04FudusOn Low Battery, Suspend box, uncheck.
14:26.16WalexShalokShalom: there is a drop down menu in "When battery is at critical level".
14:26.18FudusMenu,energy,On Low Battery tab, Suspend box, uncheck.
14:26.27ShalokShalomi want to change the 30 seconds
14:26.31FudusOr change the time
14:26.34ShalokShalomstay on suspend
14:26.55FudusSo change the After to what you want on the same tab?
14:27.05ShalokShalom[15:17] <ShalokShalom> when my laptop reach 5% of its battery charge, shut it into sleep mode. [15:18] <ShalokShalom> this happens in 30 secunds, can i change this counter ?
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14:27.34FudusSuspend session, After [time box] [action dropdown]
14:28.03ShalokShalomFudus: Where ? How ?
14:28.08ShalokShalomconfig file ?
14:28.13WalexShalokShalom: also for distro specific advice ask in http://kaosx.us/phpBB3/
14:28.22ShalokShalomts not distro specific
14:28.26ShalokShalomits KDE related
14:28.38DiscipleOfDante_Fudus: Yes both have breeze-dark set. I have not changed anything since I rebooted.
14:28.42FudusMenu,type energy,enter,On Low Battery tab
14:29.20FudusHas "Suspend session" which you can change timeouts.
14:30.18ShalokShalomFudus: Please, can you send me a Screenshot ? http://imgur.com/
14:30.46ShalokShalomah, script ?
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14:31.55anonzadaskcmshell powerdevilglobalconfig
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14:32.02anonzadasuse that on your terminal
14:32.23ShalokShalomkcmshell: command not found
14:32.43anonzadascommon dude, you using kde4 or kde5
14:32.50ShalokShalomi install kcmutils now..
14:32.51Fuduskcmshell4 powerdevilglobalconfig
14:32.55ShalokShalomKDE SC 4.14
14:33.00anonzadasso use kcmshell4
14:33.30ShalokShalomah, ok
14:33.58ShalokShalomyes, i know this KCM :)
14:34.01ShalokShalomwhat to do ?
14:34.05ShalokShalomScript ?
14:34.19ShalokShalomah nah, there is no script to add
14:34.26Fudus"Suspend session" change it to what time you want
14:35.33anonzadasright!!
14:35.49ShalokShalomhttp://i.imgur.com/kcofLUw.png
14:37.10ShalokShalomthere is no option for time: http://i.imgur.com/yADQqdk.png
14:38.23ShalokShalomis this different on your KDE ?
14:38.56ShalokShalomDiscipleOfDante_: hi, still on chakra ? ;)
14:39.29FudusApparently I have a different version. Sorry for bad info.
14:40.05ShalokShalomno worry
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14:40.11ShalokShalomwhich version you use ?
14:40.24ShalokShalommaybe a dependency is missing here ?
14:40.42ShalokShalomCan you send me a Screenshot from your Version please ? :)
14:41.13FudusI thought that 4 and 5.1 had the same layout, I was wrong.
14:41.24FudusWith kcms anyhow
14:42.15ShalokShalomah, ok
14:42.20ShalokShalomplasma 5 is completly different
14:42.28ShalokShalomits possible there ? fine :D
14:42.55FudusHave you checked the session part of kcm?
14:43.49FudusStartup and Shutdown
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14:46.20ShalokShalomFudus: Yes, nothing there as well.
14:46.22ShalokShalomthanks
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15:42.39JusticeAnyone else running kde-next? Is it me or is kwin_x11 kinda crashy when using the window switcher?
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16:04.45anonzadaskwin a plasmashell
16:04.49anonzadascrashing all the time
16:05.01anonzadastry to open the box to add a new widget on desktop
16:05.06anonzadasdont touch nothing
16:05.12anonzadaswait a few seconds...
16:05.19anonzadasCRASH!!!
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16:51.43toan_does anyone know where i can find a reference on where/how/what kde store all a session's setting?  i know it is in kde, but i want to know more details
16:52.00toan_my kde crashed everytime now, i really want to know what caused it, please help
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17:10.51apb1963The following packages have been kept back:
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17:11.49apb1963Is it safe to upgrade these?  I can't afford to lose my system... I've got older backups, but I ran out of space and so I can't make newer backups.
17:12.21apb1963ubuntu 14.04
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17:17.08toan_apb, i dont know about you, i updated kubuntu 2 days ago and now my kde was failing to start
17:17.19toan_i am troubling shooting why plasma desktop can not start;
17:18.14kshitij8Trying to build using ./kdesrc-build (for KF5) keep getting a failure due to: CMake Warning at /usr/share/ECM/find-modules/FindKF5.cmake:75 (find_package): Could not find a package configuration file provided by "KF5Config"  (requested version 5.3.0) with any of the following names:    KF5ConfigConfig.cmake    kf5config-config.cmake
17:18.59kshitij8I have Qt5.3.2 installed using the ./run method and have set the CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH to point to it
17:19.32kshitij8Using Kubuntu 14.10 on the next version ppa
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17:32.22jfmcarreiraheyy guys are already widget available for plasma 5 related with system monitoring?
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17:32.52toan_is there a way to tell plasma desktop to reload a new session in a command line, without login out and login back in
17:33.50demmtoan_: kquitapp plasma-desktop & plasma-desktop
17:34.54toan_thankyou
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17:37.10toan_demm, is there a way to manually select what session i wan tto start before plasma-desktop starts up? like a prompt to choose what session?
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18:07.29toan_quick question how does plasma-desktop know what session to start from the ksmserverc file
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18:10.43unixfreakwith dolphin; how do i mount a folder over ssh/sftp ?
18:11.49unixfreaki try sftp://user@host
18:12.06unixfreakit says:  The host key for this server was not found, but another type of key exists.
18:12.06unixfreakAn attacker might change the default server key to confuse your client into thinking the key does not exist.
18:12.06unixfreakPlease contact your system administrator.
18:15.21unixfreakah nevermind, fish:// does what i need, that works
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18:32.31shevyhey - I am using ruby in a kde konsole tab; starting "irb". My question is - is there a way to determine whether I am using kde konsole here, rather than, say, xterm?
18:34.37rindolfshevy: env | grep -i konsole gives me some stuff.
18:35.49shevyhmm
18:36.03shevylike KONSOLE_DBUS_SERVICE ?
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19:42.25DiscipleOfDanteHello, earlier I was told that gtkbreeze is not yet ready for stable release. Is there anyway I can get ahold of it for Arch Linux even as unstable?
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21:12.54Uber-IchI haven't used KDE since 3.5; Is Konqueror not used as a file manager anymore?
21:15.29Uber-IchAs I look at my install, it looks like Nautilus may have replaced it.
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23:21.03Walexkrzx: there are several levels of power management: for example inside the monitor itself, and several level even within the desktop environment, for example X builtin power saving.
23:26.24krzxi think it was powerdevil
23:26.32krzxi disabled that
23:26.37krzxand think its better now
23:27.13krzxi just control+alt+f2 to switch to a terminal to lock my scren when away
23:27.19krzxnobody in my house knows anything about linux
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