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| 00:36.03 | MobileRoey | hi |
| 00:36.07 | MobileRoey | anyone here? |
| 00:36.12 | MobileRoey | having trouble booting KDE. |
| 00:37.24 | MobileRoey | Tried a fresh .kde profile, and it works--how do I narrow this problem down? I'm using the proprietary NVidia drivers,and this whole mess started once I upgraded rom Kubuntu 14.04 -> 14.10 yesterday. |
| 00:37.31 | MobileRoey | *from 14.04 -> 14.10 |
| 00:40.27 | MobileRoey | anyone here? |
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| 02:49.57 | ugly_cat | Where does kde keep custom themes? |
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| 02:50.57 | ugly_cat | I have a friend who spent a long time customizing the font colors and stuff |
| 02:51.49 | cordell | open kde system settings - application appearance - colors. then click save scheme |
| 02:52.48 | cordell | also look in /home/$USER/.kde4/share/apps/color-schemes |
| 02:53.14 | cordell | MobileRoey: try asking in #kubuntu |
| 02:56.05 | MobileRoey | hey back |
| 02:56.07 | MobileRoey | cordell: I did. |
| 02:56.09 | MobileRoey | and in #nvidia |
| 02:56.11 | MobileRoey | thanks1 |
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| 02:58.40 | diegoviola | I hate windows |
| 03:00.34 | rx_ | diegoviola: why? all systems have their pros and cons ;o) |
| 03:02.12 | diegoviola | I just hate it |
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| 03:10.46 | krzx | anyone farmiliar with alsamixer |
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| 03:10.56 | krzx | i have say, a playlist in vlc |
| 03:10.59 | krzx | of videos |
| 03:11.19 | krzx | between tracks switching it mutes everything |
| 03:11.28 | krzx | ?? |
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| 03:44.22 | ynix | GNOME user here. I'd like to try KDE in a VM with the absolute least bit of hassle... Could you recommend a distro that comes with KDE by default? Thanks. |
| 03:45.50 | DrEeevil | maybe Kubuntu ? |
| 03:46.23 | krzx | ynix: centos |
| 03:46.33 | krzx | and fedora |
| 03:46.46 | krzx | you can select which you want kde or gnome at install |
| 03:47.12 | krzx | when you get to the part where you choose extra or addtional packages its listed in the "desktop" part |
| 03:48.20 | tkdchen_ | ynix: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/kde/ |
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| 04:13.13 | valorie | I thought you could choose in most distros |
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| 06:19.48 | siri3452 | i have a couple of chromium extensions that run in their own window ( like gmail offline ). Is there an option where i can show it as a separate window in Task manager without grouping it along with the rest of chromium windows ? I have tried 'Don't allow this window to be grouped' but it ungroups every single chromium window. |
| 06:20.39 | siri3452 | perhaps an option in "special window settings" ? |
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| 07:37.33 | justanotheruser | changing panel height seems like a quick fix for the problem temporarily |
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| 10:21.16 | T-Sourcemaker | is there a good linux scanner... working in KDE? |
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| 10:26.20 | Kelsar | T-Sourcemaker: scanner? document scanner? virus scanner? or something else? |
| 10:26.30 | T-Sourcemaker | Kelsar: document scanner |
| 10:26.50 | hateball | anything HP |
| 10:26.54 | hateball | pretty much |
| 10:26.58 | Kelsar | T-Sourcemaker: most scanners work. I have good experience wiht HP too |
| 10:27.17 | T-Sourcemaker | which do you have? |
| 10:27.20 | bcooksley | if you don't mind drivers with proprietary components then Brother gear works quite well also |
| 10:27.49 | Kelsar | T-Sourcemaker: got some All in One Device, dunno which ones exactly |
| 10:27.58 | T-Sourcemaker | ok |
| 10:28.15 | hateball | T-Sourcemaker: http://www.hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html |
| 10:28.22 | hateball | here's a nice place to look/compare |
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| 10:30.47 | T-Sourcemaker | hateball: thanks.... but all of them are all in one devices... I just need a document scanner :) |
| 10:31.18 | hateball | Oh, right |
| 10:34.06 | Kelsar | T-Sourcemaker: look at the sane project, there should be a list with working devices |
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| 12:03.02 | tidux | so is KDE Applications 14.12 a "pure" KDE 5 release, or is there still stuff based on KDE 4? |
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| 12:27.40 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 12:41.04 | rdieter | tidux: the latter |
| 12:41.21 | tidux | k |
| 12:41.28 | tidux | is there a timeline for a "pure" KF5 release? |
| 12:42.28 | Sho_ | tidux: of what? (i missed the start) |
| 12:42.34 | rdieter | afaik, not really, each application will port when they are ready |
| 12:42.48 | rdieter | Sho_: " KDE Applications 14.12" |
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| 12:47.27 | Sho_ | thx |
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| 15:19.52 | billydaz | hello |
| 15:20.01 | billydaz | I have an issue |
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| 15:24.59 | hateball | Stating what it is might generate a reply |
| 15:25.06 | billydaz | ok |
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| 15:25.22 | billydaz | so i installed kde on my kali |
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| 15:25.44 | billydaz | and i had to replace nouveau with nvidia |
| 15:25.52 | billydaz | as my card is nvidia |
| 15:26.09 | billydaz | eversince it suddenly freezes and i have to restart |
| 15:26.40 | hateball | Why do you need the proprietary driver? |
| 15:26.56 | hateball | nouveau runs plasma fine in my experience |
| 15:27.16 | billydaz | but not with the fine edges on mine |
| 15:27.43 | billydaz | i tried rolling back but the resolution was even worse |
| 15:29.20 | billydaz | what do you think? |
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| 15:32.01 | hyper_ch | hi there, on my notebook I usually have two external monitors. One is vga and other is hdmi. Now, if I accidentally disconnect the hdmi one and reconnect it, all is fine. However if I accidentally disconnect the vga one and reconnect it, KDE doesn't recognize it anymore. Also it won't show up in the systemsettings -> Monitor configuration tool |
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| 15:52.39 | toothe | when I close a window but the program is still running in KDE< is there a way to see where it goes? |
| 15:52.52 | toothe | for example, if I hit X on pidgin, it doesn't closer, the window just disappears |
| 15:53.04 | Taoki | Hi... I have a problem with openSUSE 13.2 / KDE 4.11.2: Apparently images are detected based on their extension rather than mimetype. Due to this, Dopphin odesn't generate thumbnails for .jpg images with the .png extension or the other way around. How do I fix this? |
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| 16:04.01 | rdieter | Taoki: on linux, the mimetype *is* usually detected by file extention |
| 16:04.49 | Taoki | rdieter: IIRC that wasn't the case. Anyway, how do I fix png / jpg inverted extentions, and make them be detected properly? |
| 16:04.57 | rdieter | so what you really want is to fix extentions that are wrong |
| 16:05.12 | Taoki | x.x |
| 16:05.25 | Taoki | No, I want images with incorrect file extensions to work again like they did before |
| 16:05.26 | rdieter | Taoki: one possibility is to use 'file' on each, which uses contents only |
| 16:05.31 | Taoki | Apparently a distribution upgrade broken this |
| 16:05.43 | Taoki | I need to change the configuration |
| 16:05.46 | rdieter | Taoki: shared-mime-info handles it |
| 16:06.19 | Taoki | Where is shared-mime-info located? |
| 16:06.29 | rdieter | afiact, it only uses extention for jpeg |
| 16:06.29 | Taoki | Oh... you mean the package? |
| 16:06.32 | Taoki | I have that installed |
| 16:06.36 | Taoki | But it still doesn't work |
| 16:06.43 | rdieter | see /usr/share/mime/image/jpeg.xml |
| 16:06.45 | rdieter | for example |
| 16:06.59 | rdieter | and png.xml ni there |
| 16:07.01 | rdieter | in there. |
| 16:07.05 | rdieter | they only use globs |
| 16:07.35 | rdieter | so, one way to fix is to use something like 'file', which operates on content only, to detect the erroneously named files |
| 16:08.10 | rdieter | I just tried renaming a jpeg to png, and it tells me: file baseball_1982-1.png => baseball_1982-1.png: JPEG image data, EXIF standard |
| 16:08.29 | Taoki | The problem is Dolphin doesn't do this itself. So I need Dolphin to do it I believe |
| 16:08.38 | Taoki | I have the proper mime types in /usr/share/mime/image/ |
| 16:08.56 | rdieter | dolphin (and kde) uses the shared-mime-data stuff |
| 16:09.31 | rdieter | anyway, run 'file' over all your images, and fix accordingly |
| 16:09.40 | rdieter | would be my suggestion |
| 16:10.15 | Taoki | rdieter: the file command detects the correct extension |
| 16:10.23 | Taoki | So it might be a Dolphin issue... |
| 16:10.56 | rdieter | I'll say it again: dolphin (and shared-mime-info) only looks at file extention, not file content |
| 16:11.09 | rdieter | whereas the 'file' command only looks at content |
| 16:11.18 | Taoki | This was not the case before upgrading to openSUSE 13.2 (in 13.1 it worked) |
| 16:11.31 | Taoki | and i had kde 4.11.2 in both |
| 16:11.39 | Taoki | So something changed |
| 16:11.39 | rdieter | maybe shared-mime-info changed between those 2 releases |
| 16:11.54 | rdieter | regardless, I hope you can agree having misnamed files is not ideal? why not fix it? |
| 16:12.22 | Taoki | Because images i download have bad extentions, because the services that host them are stupid. It's not my business to fix them |
| 16:12.33 | rdieter | good luck then |
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| 16:13.51 | rdieter | I see the latest upstream shared-mime-info uses *some* content for png |
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| 16:15.18 | Taoki | Can I be sure it's the fault of shared-mime-info? As in, that this is what Dolphin uses and what causes it to check extension over mime type? |
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| 16:15.41 | Taoki | So I can discuss this with the distro |
| 16:16.53 | rdieter | Taoki: there's this: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xdg/shared-mime-info/commit/?id=f8ed2998bffe481ab267d20dc2b641acbffbf021 |
| 16:17.37 | rdieter | I guess there is some "magic" detection as well |
| 16:17.41 | rdieter | which is what file uses |
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| 16:20.19 | Taoki | Need to go now. Thanks for the help, I'll keep asking |
| 16:21.16 | rdieter | Taoki: nevermind, I was wrong, content *should* get queried |
| 16:21.49 | Taoki | nods. Doesn't know what the official defaults are, but knows this worked before the upgrade and should work |
| 16:21.57 | rdieter | hrm, except it's not working |
| 16:22.12 | rdieter | kmimetypefinder ~/Pictures/baseball_1982-1.png |
| 16:22.14 | rdieter | ah |
| 16:22.18 | Taoki | There's a lot of images that have reversed extensions when downloaded from the internet. Ideally this shouldn't happen, but it does, so |
| 16:22.37 | rdieter | kmimetypefinder --content ~/Pictures/baseball_1982-1.png, works |
| 16:23.07 | rdieter | Taoki: you say the same version of kde acts differently? |
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| 16:23.27 | rdieter | in particular, same kdelibs ? |
| 16:23.38 | Taoki | rdieter: Yes. In openSUSE 13.1 I used KDE 4.14.2. In 13.2 I am stull using 4.14.2 |
| 16:23.42 | rdieter | or rather, kde-runtime |
| 16:23.59 | Taoki | I believe so. I don't know the exact packages that got upgraded, just the version |
| 16:24.12 | rdieter | ok, wierd, I would expect kmimetypefinder (and dolphin) to always get it wrong |
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| 16:26.41 | Taoki | BBL. I'm still online though, feel free to highlight me if you happen to find the culprint in case you're still looking |
| 16:27.05 | rdieter | the 'culprit' is opensuse 13.1, and how it ever worked :-/ |
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| 16:27.40 | Taoki | lol... that moment when correct functionality is a bug, and removing it is fixing the problem :) |
| 16:27.57 | Taoki | Or wanted functionality |
| 16:28.13 | rdieter | unless some of these png's were the ios variant removed recently (per the commit I referenced) |
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| 16:38.22 | rdieter | Taoki: relevantl mailing list discussion on the topic, http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=133396816831209&w=2 |
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| 16:41.53 | rdieter | Taoki: and some scripts to fix things, http://superuser.com/questions/812455/recursively-fixing-image-file-extensions-in-linux |
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| 17:27.08 | mcfletch | Does anyone know how to get kwallet to *not* offer to decrypt ssh keys (i.e. not act as an ssh agent)? I use a command-line ssh agent, but every time ssh tries to connect to a host kwallet is popping up a dialogue asking me for a password to decrypt the key and preventing the operation until I click "cancel" (whereon the cli ssh-agent provides the password and the operation succeeds). Kubuntu 14.04 with kwalletmanager 4.14.2 (kubuntu backports p |
| 17:31.02 | BluesKaj | mcfletch, do you use kwallet for other pwds, if not just open kwallet and in configure, disable kwallet |
| 17:31.44 | mcfletch | BluesKaj: I believe Chromium uses it for secure storage, at least, it asks for kwallet auth on every startup. |
| 17:33.03 | BluesKaj | mcfletch, well if you need it then I have no idea how to prevent your issue, since I have it disabled |
| 17:33.17 | BluesKaj | sorry I can't help |
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| 17:37.24 | mcfletch | BluesKaj: np |
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| 17:45.11 | rdieter | mcfletch: sounds like you have ksshaskpass, so... if you don't want it, uninstall (or otherwise disable it's function, probably depends on distro/how it is instaled) |
| 17:46.06 | rdieter | mcfletch: for example, redefining SSH_ASKPASS env variable would have the same effect |
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| 17:51.08 | mcfletch | rdieter: I just wound up disabling kwallet entirely, I can re-enter my chromium passwords, (I don't actually have ksshaskpass installed any more, but I removed that a while ago without signout/signin since then, so it's possible it's still running/configured). |
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| 17:55.23 | mystica555 | notes that without a full signout/in, it is a near 100% probability |
| 17:55.33 | mystica555 | barring having killed it off yourself manually |
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| 17:58.29 | hyper_ch | hi there, on my notebook I usually have two external monitors. One is vga and other is hdmi. Now, if I accidentally disconnect the hdmi one and reconnect it, all is fine. However if I accidentally disconnect the vga one and reconnect it, KDE doesn't recognize it anymore. Also it won't show up in the systemsettings -> Monitor configuration tool |
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| 18:01.10 | rdieter | hyper_ch: what does 'xrandr' output say? |
| 18:01.54 | rdieter | (a command-line tool) |
| 18:02.01 | hyper_ch | I know |
| 18:02.31 | rdieter | ie, does VGA show there as connected or disconnected? |
| 18:03.20 | hyper_ch | rdieter: both connected: http://paste.debian.net/132679/ |
| 18:03.42 | rdieter | that output doesn't mention vga at all |
| 18:03.52 | rdieter | only HDMI, DP |
| 18:04.18 | hyper_ch | rdieter: disconnected: http://paste.debian.net/132680/ |
| 18:04.21 | hyper_ch | dp1 is the vga |
| 18:04.46 | rdieter | DisplayPort is not vga |
| 18:05.06 | hyper_ch | rdieter: reconnected: http://paste.debian.net/132682/ |
| 18:05.11 | hyper_ch | rdieter: it's a vga port |
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| 18:05.33 | rdieter | ok, that's wierd, that xrandr thinks it's a displayPort connector |
| 18:05.35 | hyper_ch | so how to get dp1 to work again? |
| 18:05.52 | hyper_ch | kde systemsettings also shows it as dp1 |
| 18:05.55 | hyper_ch | when it's connected |
| 18:06.03 | hyper_ch | cable is replugged but nothing is shown |
| 18:06.09 | rdieter | either way, xrandr doesn't see it get reconnected |
| 18:06.18 | rdieter | (which is what kde/kscreen uses) |
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| 18:06.27 | hyper_ch | hmmm... |
| 18:06.29 | hyper_ch | why? |
| 18:06.30 | rdieter | so it's likely some low level problem, X/kernel/driver |
| 18:06.43 | rdieter | (and not kde at fault) |
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| 18:07.25 | hyper_ch | it used to work on eaerlier kubuntu versions |
| 18:07.32 | rdieter | *may* have something to do with the port being mis-identified too, who knows |
| 18:08.28 | rdieter | hyper_ch: I'd suggest reporting the bug to your distro (though there's a small chance it's a hardware problem) |
| 18:08.55 | hyper_ch | can't I just tell xrandr about it? |
| 18:09.01 | rdieter | (against whatever video driver is in use) |
| 18:10.12 | rdieter | I think you can manually define monitor entries for X still, but really no one in their right mind does that anymore (that's so 1990's) |
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| 18:13.06 | hyper_ch | need to reboot :( |
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| 18:15.52 | hyper_ch | rdieter: back again |
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| 19:49.36 | wydsiwyg | Not sure if I am in the right room. I am looking to try KDE Plasma in virtual box. I am trying to load the neon ISO. What is the neon base distro I dont see any information on it in distro watch. |
| 19:50.14 | Sho_ | wydsiwyg: Kubuntu, but Neon has actually been discontinued recently |
| 19:50.21 | anonfriese | well it's basically kubuntu with a few ppas |
| 19:50.51 | anonfriese | .. and i need to write faster ;) |
| 19:51.23 | Sho_ | wydsiwyg: https://blogs.kde.org/2014/11/20/kubuntu-ci-replacement-project-neon |
| 19:52.27 | wydsiwyg | hmm⦠I can load a kubuntu distro in my vm but I canât seem to run neon. I get âFailed to load ldlinux.c32â any idea. I search google and saw the same error nothing seemed to be related to neon not virtualbox. Any ideas? |
| 19:53.43 | wydsiwyg | just saw Sho_ âs comment looking now |
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| 19:58.04 | wydsiwyg | Sho_: Is there a kubuntu CI ISO I can try somewhere? |
| 19:58.23 | wydsiwyg | Sho_: just found it |
| 19:58.24 | wydsiwyg | Sorry |
| 19:58.29 | Sho_ | no worries |
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| 20:31.42 | pedahzur | Looking for help with the KDE Network Manager Plasma app. I have a VPN connection that I set up via a script, and am converting it to use network manager, via the KDE plasma widget. So far, it's working and working well. One niggle: the script I have for my VPN has my user/pass in it so I don't have to type it ever time. Is there a way to save my password in the Plasma Config? My laptop has full-drive encryption, so I'm not worried |
| 20:31.44 | pedahzur | about losing my password that way. |
| 20:33.13 | Konwhald | pedahzur: Take a look at Kwallet, maybe it's the key. I don't know much on this topic :/ |
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| 20:41.40 | rdieter | pedahzur: I don't think vpn password saving is implemented (at least not for the plugin I use, openconnect) |
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| 22:11.45 | pedahzur | rdieter_work: Yeah, OpenConnect is the one I'm using. It's a little odd. Whenever I enter my user/pass it tells me the connection has been updated, but it doesn't save the user/pass. |
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