IRC log for #kde on 20141123

00:05.05salamanderrakehttps://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/c963594cd50baec04e08
00:09.57rdietersalamanderrake: I'd suspect this one, /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kdevplatform/20/kcm/kcm_kdevcustombuildsystem.so
00:10.12rdieter(which is apparently still lacking debuginfo)
00:10.17rdieterelse you'd get a line number
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00:15.29salamanderrakeok
00:15.37salamanderrakeits still looking there?
00:24.03salamanderrake0x00007fffee76c187 in raise () from /lib64/libc.so.6
00:24.20salamanderrakeI have kdevelop and kdevplatform installed in /opt/kdevelop
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01:38.39case__welcome to kde
01:39.57RakkoWeird question: does anyone know where the source of reaktivate is nowadays? (It was a Konq plugin allowing limited use of ActiveX, through Wine.)
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01:53.29kadoshhello :D
01:53.42kadoshI just installed plasma-next on archlinux
01:53.43kadosh:D
01:53.48kadoshawesome job :D
01:53.56kadoshjust I wonder what apps are already ported
01:54.05kadoshlike telepathy or kmail
01:54.12kadoshis there a list or something?
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02:12.05michaelrosehey is there any way to start kde services without starting kde?
02:12.49michaelrosespecifically I can go into systemsettings, and go to start up and shut down, select the service manager tab and manually start whatever
02:13.15michaelrosebut I don't know how to start the kde keyboard daemon from the command line
02:15.55michaelrosethis would be useful because I've noticed that certain games do not accept input when this is not running
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08:46.41jchiain KDE4 (on archlinux), how do i lock the screen from the command-line?
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09:08.29alkethi , how to do this "konsole python main.py" ?
09:08.42alketfrom a launching script
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09:47.26lordievaderGood morning.
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09:49.42audunhi. My monitor goes black when I disconnect vga display. LVDS is set to primary. Even when I turn off VGA display, LVDS goes black when I disconnect the cable. This is true for one user account. Others are OK
09:50.07audunhow can I reset user display settings?
09:51.00audunthe gui system settings does not help
09:53.05audunI'm on mint kde qiana
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09:55.33valorieaudun: what version of KDE are you using?
09:55.56valorieI have no clue what qiana is
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09:58.14audunlinux mint qiana kde version
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10:01.41valorielet me put it this way: are you using KDE4, or Plasma 5?
10:01.50audunsorry kde4
10:02.00audunhow can I find version?
10:02.03valorieas I said, I've never heard of qiana before
10:02.31valoriethat's fine.... so you will probably find the file somewhere in your ~/.kde folder
10:02.54valoriemaybe ~/.kde/share/apps or /config
10:03.25valoriethere is an off chance that you'll find the config file in ~/.config or ~/.local
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10:05.29audunthanks for helping.you mean the display config? what is it called?
10:05.58valorieI can't recall, but you'll find it
10:06.08valoriemost of those files are text files
10:06.35valoriesince your new user doesn't have the problem, it most likely is one of those rc files or something
10:06.47valoriedigging around in there is interesting
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10:12.48audunvalorie: I found kwinrc plasma-desktoprc and plasmarc. could it be one of those?
10:13.12valorieno, that is plasma as a whole
10:13.21valoriesuch as your toolbar and such
10:13.32valoriebut click on it and scroll through
10:13.37valorieand you'll see what is covered
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10:13.52valoriereally, it is fun to see
10:13.57valorieor maybe I'm just weird
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10:17.15audunvalorie: I'm learning something. Now I now where my shortcuts are stored
10:17.24valorie:-)
10:17.36audunvalorie; but still don't know what to do.
10:17.37valorieI learn something new every time I trawl in there
10:17.55valorieyou might have to look in the other places I mentioned above
10:18.39valorieoh, and you can edit the file just by changing it and "save as" same filename
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10:18.56audunWhen I boot my machine it behaves normally until I login. hml5 splash loads and then nothing (it tries to set up the display on a screen not connected)
10:18.57valorieor you can just rename the old file, and a new one will be created
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10:23.33audunvalorie:kde version is 4.13 still cannot find config file. can you suggest names?
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10:26.52audunOh, maybe mdm is my display manager, since its mint?
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10:28.00dextamorning
10:29.28valorieaudun: you might look for kscreenrc or similar
10:29.52valorieif mint packages kscreen
10:30.00valoriewe have it in Kubuntu, so maybe.....
10:32.18audunyea I just renamed the whole kscreen dir and I think it worked!! thanks
10:33.40valorieexcellent
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10:37.55audunvalorie, Yes. everything is working after reboot and no vga screen. there was no kscreenrc but those files in kscreen dir was the problem. thanks again.
10:39.50valoriecool
10:39.57valorieand you are most welcome
10:40.03valorieglad you figured it out
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12:28.41RushPLI was under the impression that baloo was gonna fix desktop searching and now I see baloo_file is taking up 2GBs of memory
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13:37.47mystica555wonders what yhour baloo_file is doing... is it _idle_ at 2GB? or is that during a scan of some sort?>
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14:10.48WalexRushPL: what memory is taklen up by what is not a straightforward thing
14:11.07RushPLhow would I know
14:11.12WalexRushPL: Baloo is better than its predecessors, but I still like Recoll more.
14:11.24jchiai'm trying to configure xmonad under kdm. is there a kde command-line for 1) locking the screen 2) adjusting volume 3) adjusting screen brightness?
14:12.03RushPLI enabled it under the impression it's gonna work and is well tested and simply having it running (without really using) has used much of my memory which I find really bad - nobody has run it for a couple of days presumably
14:12.13RushPLI rarely reboot at all
14:12.48WalexRushPL: again, used much of my  memory
14:13.28WalexRushPL: again, "used much of my  memory" is not what it seems, it is not something that can be said with any degree of meaningfulness without significant analysis
14:14.16RushPLI see what you're saying. Well I used "ps aux" measure and killing baloo_file suddently caused my desktop to not stutter after opening new tabs in chrome
14:14.23WalexRushPL: the really big problems with indexers are two: how much they hit the disk during indexing and how good they are at searching the index.
14:14.45WalexRushPL: if Baloo was indexing, that could have caused the stutter...
14:15.17RushPLno it was not disk activity, it is simply lack of RAM
14:15.31WalexRushPL: that's surprising though.
14:15.39RushPLI have 16GBs but it's not enough for me with current KDE, baloo and my workflow (programming ,kdevelop etc.)
14:15.56RushPLI also have swap disabled so when there is little ram it can stutter
14:16.06WalexRushPL: that's rather unusual, even crazy stuff works well with 16GiB.
14:16.18RushPL(lack of swap is still better than having swap cause having swap would make it hang forever in IO)
14:16.23WalexRushPL: also the Linux memory management and disk IO scheduling are often terrible
14:17.04WalexRushPL: when the memory manager gets close to not having memory it can do very bad things, even without swap.
14:17.41WalexRushPL: and regrettably not only Linux memory and disk IO policies are terrible, the default settings make them worse.
14:18.04RushPLwell, yeah ... my point being is that baloo is most probably leaking regardless of how terrible Linux memory management is
14:18.26RushPLI could help test it but I'd rather stay on the user side of things - quite busy with other stuff
14:18.58WalexRushPL: it is a big issue, but most GNU/Linux developers just add more RAM, they are all on large salaries from places like RedHat, IBM, etc., so resource saving policies are not their itch anymore.
14:19.48RushPLI'd buy more RAM as well but I have only 2 DDR3 slots in this mini-itx mobo and I haven't yet seen 16GB in a single stick
14:20.04WalexRushPL: if you want to laugh hard look at this: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/anno05-2nd.html#050512
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14:21.19Walexthat was nearly 10 years ago...
14:22.26RushPLI recalled running KDE 3.3 (or smth) on a Pentium 2 450Mhz with 128MBs of ram and it was quite usable, it was my main PC for web
14:22.36WalexRushPL: same here :-)
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14:37.36tabsterleirI have removed the ktp and kopete configs and even reinstall ktp-contact-list. Any thoughts? Fedora 20 x64.
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23:03.45o11cum, am I completely missing something
23:03.56o11cor did the charcter-selector program get a lobotomy?
23:04.02o11cI can't search by name anymore
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23:13.13o11cfalse alarm
23:13.20o11cI was using the gnome version somehow
23:13.36o11cso yes, the program I was using was brain-dead
23:13.44o11cbut the kde version is still useful
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23:56.18jerichowasahoaxWhen I alt tab out of a fullscreen OpenGL program, the program minimizes. I would like to stop this from happening, since this particular program occasionally crashes when it gets minimized. Where should I start?

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