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03:07.03tootheis ther a widget I can place on my desktop like a stickypad?
03:07.28toothenvmd, found it!
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05:03.21swillscan anyone help me with why certain KDE apps don't keep their themes? they revert back to default after i close and re-open them.
05:04.52swillsI can go into System Setting -> Application Appearance and change the theme and they change
05:04.54swillsbut if i close them and re-open, they revert back to default
05:04.55swillsit's weird.
05:05.10swillskonsole and dolphin both do it
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05:55.42valorieswills: sounds like perhaps you have permissions set wrong somewhere
05:56.05valoriedid you perhaps run something as root when that wasn't needed?
05:56.15swillsdon't think so
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05:56.25swillslogged in as user from kdm
05:56.39valorieI mean previously
05:56.39swillsclosest similar thing i can find is https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=173098
05:56.44swillsand i have kde-gtk-config installed too
05:56.53swillsso perhaps that's it... i'm trying to remove all traces of it at the moment...
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06:22.37tootheis there a way to have a widget come on top when you click on it?
06:22.49tootherght nowits always in the background, so if a window is above it, i have to move that window.
06:22.55thiagono
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08:14.32Mamaroktoothe: put the widget in the panel and make the panel to be always visible
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08:25.14lordievaderGood morning.
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09:55.37Neo31hello guys :) where should I go to contribute to KDE5? I have it on ubuntu 15.04 alpha and i can even recompile it if that is necessary. I can do testing for now and I am open to code a little next year :)
09:58.09krytarikNeo31: Join #kde-devel.
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09:59.28Neo31thanks krytarik
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10:29.17KjetilKI'm on Linux Mint with KDE 4.13.3, and I'd like ksshaskpass to ask a different kwallet than the default for SSH keys, so that I can use a stronger passphrase (and possibly other policies) for that wallet
10:29.30KjetilKhow can I do that?
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11:59.28veduHello. When my computer resumes from stand by, I need to kill NetworkManager so that I can connect to the internet. Any fixes? I am using KDE 4.13.2 on Linux Mint 17 32bit
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12:13.28rindolfvedu: this doesn't sound KDE-related.
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12:34.59jeromelanterihello all, i have a colors problem.
12:35.47jeromelanteriwith QT, the default setPalette(QPalette) not works for colorize the background of fields and/or QTextEdit
12:36.14jeromelanterii think this is because of kde colors options... but i'm not sure.
12:36.21jeromelanteriany idea how to resolve it ?
12:36.30jeromelanteriQT5
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13:09.15CountryfiedLinuxhowdy
13:09.42rindolfCountryfiedLinux: hi.
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13:10.06CountryfiedLinuxWhen the panel is set to "allow windows to cover panel" in Plasma 5, the panel doesn't reveal when I mouse to it. Is this a bug or design? In Plasma 4 the panel reveals when I mouse to it after having that set.
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13:18.02jeromelanteriwhen i have some trouble with alimentation and UPS works on battery, after some times waiting, the desktop go to "waiting mode": so i need my password for going back to my screens... but at this time, after password enter (and works), the screeens are all black and i can not do nothing more than reboot (maybe i can... but i don't know what to do for screeen come back normal...)
13:18.35JucatoCountryfiedLinux: it doesn't for me either. I'd consider it a bug, unless there were some other way to bring up the panel that is totally different from Plasma 4
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13:20.32CountryfiedLinuxI was considering switching to KDE. I really like the desktop look over 4 and 3.
13:20.41CountryfiedLinuxIn Plasma 5 that is.
13:20.56jeromelanteriso... where i can find a log talk me about this bug (because this is not normal... it seems to be a bug... from KDE desktop or from NVIDIA driver or... i don't know... Xorg
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15:48.18ed_tkmail just desided not to send any mail.  This one is the straw that broke the camel's back.  After 14 years of using kmail.  Its going to be retired.  Its unable to handle reciepts correctly (zombie messages) and duplicates appear in filtered messages (when they work at all).  I've had it with kmail4.
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15:58.41lfrlucasWhy diagonal resize of kde 5 app windows is so difficult?
15:59.53crogIs it?
16:00.41lfrlucascrog: Try to get the diagonal arrow, e.g. in the top-right corner of some app window...
16:00.57lfrlucasIt is a big challenge
16:01.32crogAh. Top-right is a bit hard since the close button is overlapping the area. Other three aren't any harder than any other windowing system/OS I've tried.
16:02.40lfrlucasOther three are difficult too
16:03.04crogTheme/config, perhaps? No difficulties on my end. :(
16:03.09lfrlucascrog: Comparing with KDE4 all corners are much more difficult
16:03.27BluesKajed_t, with what are you going to replace kmail?
16:04.39lfrlucasIn KDE 4 we have 1 cm area around the corner where we can to diagonal resize... In kde 5 we have 1mm area for diagonal resize
16:05.00lfrlucasI'm using default brezee theme, in black color
16:05.06ed_tbackend will probably be a combo of dovecot/fetchmail (or getmail) and this will get/sort/keep the email.  what I use to actually read the imap feed I have not figured out yet (its pop3 now)
16:05.14lfrlucasUnder Gentoo. Live apps
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16:11.03gordon_hello! I'm using kde5 with plasma5 and I would like to turn off lockscreen shortcut but cannot find it. where is it?
16:11.54crogSystem settings -> Display and Monitor
16:12.08crogLock screen should be in there. Set the time to 0.
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16:13.19gordon_crog: thank you but I want to disable shortcut (ctrl+alt+L)
16:13.41crogOh! Shortcut. Sorry, it's early here and I skimmed. :(
16:14.08gordon_no problem :)
16:14.31gordon_it was in global shortcuts in kde4 but I cannot find it in kde5 ?
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16:14.43crogSystem Settings -> Shortcuts -> Global Shortcut keys; Change component to ksmserver.
16:14.51crogShould be right there as "lock session"
16:15.17gordon_I got it set to 'custom: None'
16:15.56gordon_when I set shortcut there, it work but ctrl+alt+l also works..
16:15.58crogAnd the default still works on my end too, even though I've it set to Meta+L.
16:16.00gordon_bug maybe ?
16:16.04crogSeems like a bug.
16:16.21gordon_where can I report it ?
16:16.45crogNot sure myself. Pretty sure they've a bugzilla somewhere, but I don't know it.
16:16.47gordon_maybe there is some system property :)
16:17.00gordon_I will ask on kde-dev then
16:17.04gordon_thank you for help!
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16:17.07jfmcarreiraheyy guys
16:17.22jfmcarreiradid you noticed that in plasma 5 is very difficult to do a diagonal resize?
16:17.42jfmcarreirait is like just 1 pixels to resize diagonal
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16:22.22arch-manjjfmcarreira,   yes dragging a vbox vm windows makes it freak out
16:22.36crog^
16:23.05arch-manjresize drag that is
16:23.18crogMoving them on my end isn't much better.
16:23.59jfmcarreiravbox?
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16:24.06jfmcarreiraarch-manj: ^
16:24.15arch-manjvirtualbox
16:24.23jfmcarreiracrog: what you mean?
16:24.57jfmcarreiraarch-manj: i am not running it in vbox but i also find it very diffullcut to find the correct spot
16:25.09crogDragging/resizing VM windows has some very graphical glitches. Particularly, it tends to flicker and/or go transparent.
16:25.48arch-manjkscreen and xrandr probably dont interact yet
16:26.15arch-manjthat way
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16:47.56lfrlucasI agree with jfmcarreira. It is much more difficult to find the spot for diagonal resize in any kde 5 app. It could be improved
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16:48.27lfrlucasI used kde 4 for years and I never had any difficulty
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17:31.09johnnthanks sho_
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17:33.30crogAnyone want to take a stab at my KDE5/Plasma5/Fedora21 power management issue today?
17:33.32Avihayit's possible to tie your kwallet password with your login password, so your wallet is secured while you are logged out.
17:33.43Avihayjohnn: ^
17:33.47Sho_crog: What's your power management issue again?
17:34.28crogPlain doesn't work. System settings -> power management says the module couldn't be loaded because the service isn't running. Though I've checked and upower is definitely running and powerdevil is installed.
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17:35.16crogAs it is, I have to remember to shut my monitors off when I leave at night. That kind of physical strain is going to be the death of me. :)
17:35.31Sho_crog: I think you need to first talk to people from your distro to rule out known packaging/integration issues, and then escalate things to finding one of the PowerDevil devs (e.g. afiestas)
17:35.48johnnthx avihay
17:36.05crogHrmm, okay. When you say packaging issues, do you have any ideas as to where I should start/what I should ask?
17:36.17crogI'm kinda new at a lot of this.
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17:37.24Sho_crog: #fedora-kde is a pretty friendly place and either rdieter or ltinkl or Kevin_Kofler will usually be happy to help with things like this
17:37.40crogOkay. Thanks mate.
17:38.29shumskicrog: there was a problem in the past with that, when people didn't have org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper.service in /usr
17:38.34Sho_crog: The division of responsibility is kind of that KDE is responsible for the code working and the distros are responsible for interfacing it properly with the rest of the stuff they ship and both need to work together when problems arise (say, upower and powerdevil diverging and things needing adjustment)
17:39.55crogSho_ Ahh. Okay.
17:40.06crogshumski: Just checked, seems to be in /usr:  /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper.service
17:40.26shumskiallright, so it's not that
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17:46.33crogBtw, where is the bug tracker for this?
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17:46.57crogWell, Plasma desktop, specifically.
17:47.23Sho_crog: http://bugs.kde.org - powerdevil has its own product, otherwise most Plasma things are components of the plasmashell product
17:47.33crogOkay.
17:47.44crogI was going to check on a couple other things I've noticed.
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18:00.29artemis08Hi ! I am having issues with building kdepim. Which channel should i look up ?
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18:04.07rdieterartemis08: start at #kde-devel , or maybe #kontact
18:04.43rdieterthen give details about your issue(s)
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18:06.32artemis08Thanks !
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19:29.28gunterSome strange problem here. After logging into a certain account, the screen goes black. No other accounts, nor other DE's on the same account are affected. Something I should try before deleting .kde4 ?
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20:21.32Tatshif i run export $(dbus-launch) in tmux, i can use my wallet fine and all
20:21.36Tatshbut it asks for the password every time
20:21.43Tatshthere's no option to save for session
20:21.56Tatshis there something in the environment missing compared to when not in tmux?
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20:24.59Tatshcomparing `env | sort` output, i'm not seeing anything
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20:29.25Tatshthink i got it; run `kwalletmanager name-of-wallet` once
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20:40.56c4iffQuick question(s); is there a known issue with creating desktop icons in KDE5... It seems like you can drag applications to the desktop but you cannot move there after
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21:47.34patkoscsabaI am using kde connect for some time now
21:47.44patkoscsabaand I was playing with its settings
21:47.57patkoscsabaI have the battery monitor plugin enabled
21:48.11patkoscsababut default kde battery monitor can see only my mouse
21:48.33patkoscsabahow can I add my phone also?
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22:15.55kdepepordieter, would you be able to offer patched kdelibs packages for F20 to test bug 288410 ? See last comment.
22:17.23somaunnsorry to ask here but i'm looking for a way to upgrade my Fedora 21 beta to final version, someone to help please
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22:21.34Naphatulcan someone reccomend a todo list widget that sits in the taskbar?
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22:49.03rdieterkdepepo: probably, will look
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22:59.47CorinHey.
22:59.59CorinHow can I type in Japanese (kana) with KDE?
23:01.53Sho_Corin: Hi
23:01.59CorinYo.
23:02.18Sho_Corin: How much do you know about input methods on Linux right now? (Just so I know where to start)
23:02.29CorinNot very much.
23:03.22Sho_Corin: Alright, so basically the high-level overview is that you need an "input method framework" installed and running, and a language-specific plugin for it, and a frontend for it
23:03.39Sho_Corin: Candidates for the first are ibus and fcitx; let's go with ibus since it's more commonly used
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23:04.27Sho_Corin: You need to install ibus and a Japanese plugin for ibus, e.g. ibus-anthy or ibus-mozc
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23:04.50Sho_Corin: Depending on your distro, just installing it might be enough to make it run the next time you log into your desktop, if not ... it's a little more work
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23:05.01Sho_Corin: Then you need a GUI frontend for it - KDE ships one in the kdeplasma-addons package
23:05.19Sho_Corin: So after you have ibus going, you need to install kdeplasma-addons (or "kimpanel", if your distro has a subpackage for it)
23:05.31CorinWhich is best, anthy or mozc?
23:06.08Sho_Corin: Then you need to add the "Input Method Panel" widget to your panel/taskbar
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23:06.28Sho_Corin: And then you need to go to the ibus config and add Japanese, and take note of e.g. your preferred shortcut to switch languages
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23:06.38Sho_Corin: And that's it
23:06.45CorinSounds easy enough.
23:06.55CorinBut anthy or mozc?
23:07.22Sho_Corin: I don't know which is better sadly, I use ibus+kimpanel for Korean and can't write/speak Japanese
23:08.30Sho_Korean rarely uses hanja these days and Hangul is a little easier to input than kanji or katakana, so there's only one engine for Korean, no options
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23:09.58CorinWell, I don't really need to be able to type in kanji right now.
23:10.29Sho_Japanese still heavily uses kanji though (err well ... you probably know better than I do)
23:11.16CorinI'm just a student. Still not that far along, but I figure it'd help.
23:12.46tyrogCorin: From my experience, Mozc is better
23:14.27CorinOk, cool.
23:19.17Sho_Corin: As a random pitch, KDE's IRC client Konversation has cool encoding guessing heuristics for Shift-JIS to handle mixed-encoding channels since one of its original lead devs was Japanese
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23:19.55CorinSho_: Oh, I've used KVIrc for years.
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23:31.26Corinどうもありがとうございます
23:32.22tyrogどういたしまして
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