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| 00:56.07 | Case_Of | hi |
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| 00:56.30 | Case_Of | is it possible to force kmail to not select any mail at startup ? |
| 00:57.01 | Case_Of | on my computer, it selects always old mails its annoying. |
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| 00:58.42 | Case_Of | anyone could help ? |
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| 01:13.46 | rstephenson | Question about CMake and specific library versions... |
| 01:14.33 | rstephenson | Current Tellico release uses QImageBlitz for Qt4, latest version seems to be 0.0.6, soname 4. I need QImageBlitz for Qt5 for the KF5 version of Tellico, yet unreleased but seems to be soname 5 |
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| 01:15.34 | rstephenson | In my CMakeFiles.txt, I tried find_package(QImageBlitz 0.0.6 EXACT REQUIRED) but it was still linking against the Qt5 version |
| 01:16.09 | rstephenson | I have both versions installed...should that work, or is that not supported probably? Is there a way to specify library soname version in CMake? |
| 01:16.41 | rstephenson | oops, maybe I should ask in #kde-devel, I was typing in the wrong window. My apologies |
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| 01:54.55 | yezariael_ | hey, is there a simple way of running a program as a plasmoid/widget? I would like to use bubblefishymon instead of bubblemon... |
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| 02:22.14 | SwedFTP | is there a way to pin a custom application to the task manager panel? I know I can use quicklaunch, or drag an icon in as a panel, but I like the mini icons of the default applications. |
| 02:22.42 | SwedFTP | I can remove them individually. |
| 02:23.05 | SwedFTP | and it sais remove this 'launcher' but I can't find where to modify it, or add to it. |
| 02:23.15 | SwedFTP | s/sais/says |
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| 02:25.14 | SwedFTP | ahh nvm, right click application when open & select 'Show a launcher when not running' |
| 02:25.22 | James0r | trying to get my hexchat systray icon to show up in kf5 on arch. not having any luck. |
| 02:25.42 | SwedFTP | should have mentioned I'm on KDE4 atm |
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| 03:16.18 | mystica555_ | SwedFTP: there are like 3 ways to make a launcher... 1, tell the Task Manager panel applet of your choice to keep an icon, like you found; 2, add a Quicklaunch plasma app to your panel, and then add a launcher to it with right clicking; 3: in the normal Application Launcher (the "K-Menu") right-clicking something and 'add to panel' creates a plasma panel widget with plugin 'icon', pointing to the .desktop file. I cannot find a way to manually add an |
| 03:16.18 | mystica555_ | "icon" in this manner without manual editing of ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc or using the Application Launcher widget right-click action... |
| 03:21.00 | SwedFTP | mystica555_, thank you very much, I've come to the same conclusion, I appreciate the help! |
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| 03:26.08 | mystica555_ | SwedFTP: you're welcome :) |
| 03:26.24 | mystica555_ | I wish it was easier to just add an 'icon' to the panel as an "add a widget" option |
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| 08:19.38 | andersl | Something is wrong with copy/paste. I can copy/paste alphabetic strings, but a string like "9iertlre345lfbbjsfsfjbd" I can not paste |
| 08:20.23 | andersl | it sits in my clipper history, but I tried to paste it to a password field where it is neede, not possible, or to the konqueror addressbar, not possible |
| 08:20.32 | andersl | why could that be? |
| 08:22.18 | andersl | lockup. After copy/pasting a few strings i kwrite, it appears to work. wtf is wrong???! |
| 08:27.01 | andersl | trying to create a "network folder" in dolphin, just not possible :-( |
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| 08:57.09 | andersl | I can not use kde for ftp at all it appears. It is not possible to create a ftp network folder with dolphin, the process stalls and does nothing. I can log in with konqueror, but I can not open a file and edit it with kwrite for example. |
| 08:57.23 | andersl | Using plasma desktop/kf 5 and latest kde applications. |
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| 09:05.20 | andersl | god that cli ftp(1) works, but not a day for recommending linux og kde to any non-geeks :\ |
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| 09:15.08 | hateball | do many non-geeks edit files directly on ftps |
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| 09:16.33 | andersl | well, fwiw, kde is not up to it at the moment. Something that used to work for a long time. So the question is if this is a local problem, or a general bug. |
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| 09:17.03 | bcooksley | andersl: if you can browse ftp:// or ftps:// urls in Kate/KWrite in the open file dialog |
| 09:17.08 | bcooksley | or browse them in Konqueror / Dolphin |
| 09:17.16 | bcooksley | both features which should work... |
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| 09:17.29 | bcooksley | then it is fine I would imagine, and probably a breakage in that wizard |
| 09:17.38 | bcooksley | andersl: did you see my messages? |
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| 10:47.54 | BlaXpirit | what's the analog of ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services now? |
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| 10:51.28 | leszek | BlaXpirit: what do you mean exactly ? |
| 10:52.45 | BlaXpirit | in kde 5 |
| 10:54.23 | BlaXpirit | oh i get it |
| 10:54.36 | leszek | I guess in .local/share |
| 10:55.03 | BlaXpirit | -_- |
| 10:55.32 | BlaXpirit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:56.48 | leszek | :) |
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| 10:57.30 | leszek | BlaXpirit: the ~/.kde4 btw. isn't the default path. I guess its arch/manjaro or such that use that path. Everyone else uses ~/.kde |
| 10:57.59 | BlaXpirit | and openSUSE |
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| 10:58.39 | leszek | really openSUSE hmm... ok that is interesting as I never noticed that on it |
| 10:59.02 | leszek | perhaps it speaks for openSUSE that I never had to mess with configs myself there |
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| 11:01.22 | BlaXpirit | wow, it even worked |
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| 11:23.23 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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| 11:29.02 | bifidotftw | Greetings |
| 11:29.24 | bifidotftw | I have a minor problem with Kmail, is this the right channel to ask? |
| 11:29.55 | leszek | bifidotftw: you can ask here |
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| 11:31.38 | bifidotftw | All my messages land in "local folders", but I would rather have a seperate tree as it can be seen on screenshots. |
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| 11:44.08 | leszek | bifidotftw: if they land in local folders than you might be using pop3 instead of imap. Pop3 downloads all messages to your pc. Imap is more like a "remote take a look whats new and download messages on demand" |
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| 11:50.35 | bifidotftw | leszek: Ah I see, thanks. I guess I will use IMAP then. |
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| 13:47.40 | arminius | hi. konsole seems to ignore the following settings from my inputrc: |
| 13:47.41 | arminius | # allow the use of the Home/End keys |
| 13:47.44 | arminius | "\e[1~": beginning-of-line |
| 13:47.46 | arminius | "\e[4~": end-of-line |
| 13:47.48 | arminius | any way to fix this? |
| 13:48.49 | kinokoio | which set of key combinations you have selected? |
| 13:49.26 | kinokoio | XFree4 usually do the trick |
| 13:49.30 | arminius | kinokoio: not sure if i understand that question correctly, but i've selected "Default (XFree 4)" i guess. |
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| 13:49.58 | arminius | kinokoio: i should notice that this only happens with zsh. |
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| 13:50.39 | kinokoio | then it's zsh's problem, not konsole's |
| 13:51.08 | arminius | kinokoio: yeah i just noticed that. it doesn't happen in any other terminal though, including xterm, rxvt, xfce4-terminal and terminator. |
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| 13:51.25 | arminius | kinokoio: so i'm not really sure this is a zsh problem. |
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| 14:20.23 | arminius | kinokoio: well even uxterm works great with exactly the same settings and $TERM set to the same value, so this should definitely be something to solve in konsole. |
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| 14:21.27 | arminius | hm, seems like setting $TERM from the "set environment" dialog in konsole's preferences instead of setting it via the zshrc worked. |
| 14:21.31 | arminius | no idea why... |
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| 15:14.26 | CounterPillow | is there a freedesktop standard for the "Places" or "Bookmarked Locations" in file browsers? |
| 15:14.42 | CounterPillow | Because I know GTK and KDE applications don't share them for some reason |
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| 15:20.24 | rdieter | CounterPillow: I don't recall there being one, though there may be an informal convention of using ~/.local/share/user-places.xbel |
| 15:21.14 | CounterPillow | rdieter: okay. Also, I'm using arch where half of my environment is KDE-frameworks 5, and I've noticed that my places disappear seemingly randomly. Do you know what could cause that? |
| 15:21.27 | rdieter | no |
| 15:21.55 | CounterPillow | hmmm, they still are in the user-places xbel file |
| 15:22.36 | leszek | CounterPillow: I may know it as we fixed that for netrunner |
| 15:23.02 | leszek | kde4 apps and kf5/plasma5 apps may use different files |
| 15:23.10 | CounterPillow | ah, this would explain it |
| 15:23.39 | CounterPillow | I'm a bit disappointed by ArchLinux pushing out the KF5 apps this early, but what can you do eh |
| 15:24.42 | leszek | CounterPillow: what you can do is linking one file to the other so that this problem won't appear anymore. Let me search for the fix for a few minutes then I can tell you exactly what to do |
| 15:24.49 | CounterPillow | thanks |
| 15:25.03 | CounterPillow | The 100% usage on one core when plasma needs to animate a busy spinning circle, but only on nvidia optimus devices, is a fun bug too. Man, I should get into the KDE codebase to start fixing some of these |
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| 15:26.52 | saptech | hi all |
| 15:27.09 | saptech | what are the default system fonts for KDE4? |
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| 15:29.02 | Norihiori | (sorry for my bad english ...) Hi i'm in Archlinux, the last update install "kf5" group and remove kate. After reinstall kate, dont work. KDE 4.14.6 kate 14.12.3-1. Probléme between kf5 and kate "kde kdesdk" group ? |
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| 15:31.38 | BlaXpirit_ | saptech, sans? |
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| 15:32.29 | leszek | CounterPillow: can't find the fix currently. But found this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345174 and it should be fixed with newest version also |
| 15:32.31 | BlaXpirit_ | Norihiori, archlinux is a mess right now. go bother them. |
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| 15:32.45 | CounterPillow | leszek: thank you |
| 15:32.55 | CounterPillow | so I'll be waiting for a release of the newest version then. |
| 15:33.14 | CounterPillow | Norihiori: ask in #archlinux as it's a packaging issue |
| 15:33.15 | leszek | yeah I hope they get it fixed and its not arch specific |
| 15:34.30 | saptech | BlaXpirit_, thanks. Is it just plain sans are something sans? |
| 15:34.44 | BlaXpirit_ | saptech, it's system default sans font |
| 15:34.53 | BlaXpirit_ | i'm not entirely sure though |
| 15:35.14 | saptech | if I want to change the fonts, where do I make those changes |
| 15:35.35 | BlaXpirit_ | saptech, i, for example, changed my system's default fonts |
| 15:35.35 | Norihiori | CounterPillow: Thank you :) And also, kate is available for OpenBSD ? |
| 15:35.43 | BlaXpirit_ | or you can change fonts for kde |
| 15:35.44 | CounterPillow | I don't know, sorry. |
| 15:35.48 | BlaXpirit_ | just search for "font" |
| 15:35.48 | leszek | saptech: you mean directly in the config file or via systemsettings ? |
| 15:36.01 | Norihiori | Ty |
| 15:36.16 | saptech | leszek, the easiet way, systemsettings I guess |
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| 15:37.02 | leszek | yeah systemsettings by default in kde sc 4.14 its in app appearance |
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| 15:41.00 | saptech | I'm running kde 4.14.5 |
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| 15:41.41 | BlaXpirit_ | that's nice |
| 15:42.12 | saptech | I'm looking at systemsettings, fonts but not seeing anything telling me what fonts are being used |
| 15:42.36 | BlaXpirit_ | can u just search for "font" |
| 15:42.46 | BlaXpirit_ | you don't actually need to use systemsettings directly |
| 15:43.12 | BlaXpirit_ | i bet you're looking at a "list of fonts", not "font settings" |
| 15:43.21 | saptech | yes I am |
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| 15:45.47 | saptech | i'm fairly new with kde |
| 15:47.02 | saptech | well, I'm running Mageia and I can make font changes using Mageia Control Center |
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| 17:19.44 | Case_Of | mmmh i noticed that kmail is not updating message read/unread status if it is edited via another mail client on the imap server |
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| 17:34.39 | DrZaius | is it possible to start kdm on tty8 along with tty7? |
| 17:35.06 | leszek | DrZaius: thats exactly what happens when you click switch user in plasma |
| 17:35.21 | DrZaius | plasma = kde4? |
| 17:36.20 | DrZaius | others desktops switch the users on tty7 so i didnt even try... im going to try now :> |
| 17:37.03 | leszek | normaly switching users is basically a hack which starts another kdm xsession on tty8 where the other user might login then |
| 17:37.20 | leszek | kde sc 4.x desktop is called plasma |
| 17:37.56 | DrZaius | software compilation i see |
| 17:38.15 | DrZaius | kde5 is going to be called plasma too, isnt it? |
| 17:39.11 | leszek | basically plasma 5 is the new desktop |
| 17:39.33 | leszek | and kde frameworks 5 the new library for the apps |
| 17:39.44 | leszek | and the apps will be called kde applications I guess |
| 17:40.08 | leszek | and the term kde will be only used for the community |
| 17:40.18 | leszek | so there is no kde 5 |
| 17:40.57 | DrZaius | wow, this is really nifty |
| 17:41.35 | DrZaius | wow, thats very confusing |
| 17:41.53 | DrZaius | switching accounts on plasma = nifty |
| 17:42.01 | DrZaius | there is no kde 5 = confusing af |
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| 17:43.28 | leszek | DrZaius: yeah its getting more and more complex therefor it was necessary to change the naming |
| 17:43.43 | leszek | and basically that started already in kde sc 4 |
| 17:44.13 | leszek | DrZaius: and in contrast to before the desktop plasma now has releases independant of kde frameworks or kde applications |
| 17:44.27 | leszek | that helps developers and users |
| 17:44.43 | leszek | faster updates, faster patches & fixes and so on |
| 17:45.13 | BlaXpirit_ | main problem is people now call everything plasma 5 like they would call everything kde 4 |
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| 17:46.29 | leszek | BlaXpirit_: hmm.. really ? I don't think so |
| 17:46.36 | leszek | at least I never saw this before |
| 17:47.46 | DrZaius | :o |
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| 18:13.44 | knosys | hello |
| 18:14.25 | knosys | guys i would like to know some shortcut similar to Supr + R , which work even if i have any window focused |
| 18:14.31 | knosys | like... and absolute shortcut |
| 18:14.57 | knosys | otherwise Supr + R its usefull for me , do you know what I mean? |
| 18:15.04 | knosys | useless* |
| 18:15.37 | knosys | Maybe I am missusing the feature or something |
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| 18:16.05 | knosys | But to launch applications, i like to write the name and hit enter. That is what I use Supr + R for |
| 18:16.45 | knosys | it is not so confortable if I have to go desktop for that first ... would take much longer |
| 18:17.15 | knosys | I appreciate any suggestion, thanks in advance |
| 18:20.03 | BlaXpirit_ | knosys, wut |
| 18:20.14 | knosys | ;D |
| 18:20.42 | knosys | Sorry if I didnt explain myself well... |
| 18:20.46 | BlaXpirit_ | i guess ksuperkey would be useful for you |
| 18:20.50 | knosys | I will try again, shorter |
| 18:21.07 | knosys | ksuperkey? I will google that, thanks you |
| 18:21.33 | knosys | just curious, how do you launch any app on your KDE desktop? |
| 18:21.37 | BlaXpirit_ | Super+R is not a standard shortcut. do you use that to show desktop? |
| 18:21.45 | knosys | Maybe I found some better way. I am noob with KDE |
| 18:22.01 | knosys | no BlaXpirit_ I use it to "Run" |
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| 18:22.15 | knosys | But only works if I am on desktop, without a focused window |
| 18:22.24 | knosys | If I have some window focused, it wont work |
| 18:22.43 | knosys | so its not very usefull if I have to go to the desktop everytime |
| 18:23.31 | BlaXpirit_ | general keyboard shortcuts > command launch interface |
| 18:23.42 | BlaXpirit_ | (may be slightly differently named) |
| 18:23.57 | BlaXpirit_ | in any case, try to press Alt+F2 right now |
| 18:23.59 | knosys | for example, I am chatting with you with XChat client... now i would like to launch for example emacs program, I would like to Supr + R and write there "emacs" and hit Return key |
| 18:24.02 | BlaXpirit_ | does that thing work for you? |
| 18:24.13 | knosys | But if I am here in XChat, Supr + R do nothing |
| 18:24.34 | knosys | Oh |
| 18:24.37 | knosys | that works perfect |
| 18:24.41 | knosys | alt + f2 |
| 18:24.42 | knosys | thanks!! |
| 18:24.54 | BlaXpirit_ | well you can change that to Super+R or just Super |
| 18:25.05 | BlaXpirit_ | general keyboard shortcuts > command launch interface to change to Super+R |
| 18:25.19 | BlaXpirit_ | ksuperkey is a thing that changes it toSuper |
| 18:25.26 | knosys | I dont know how to assign just supper to any shortcut |
| 18:25.26 | BlaXpirit_ | or adds, whatever |
| 18:25.36 | BlaXpirit_ | yeah, you can't so you need that special program |
| 18:25.42 | knosys | when Its listening for some keypress, it just store 2+ keys combinations |
| 18:25.47 | knosys | aahh I see |
| 18:25.52 | knosys | Okay I get it |
| 18:25.59 | knosys | ksuperkey |
| 18:26.17 | knosys | Well I will try to work the KDE way for a while to learn |
| 18:26.31 | knosys | there is probably a reason why they stick with those key combinations |
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| 18:27.07 | BlaXpirit_ | nope |
| 18:27.35 | knosys | maybe its intended to use super for some client - shortcuts |
| 18:27.36 | BlaXpirit_ | they even made Alt+Space do the same thing as Alt+F2 |
| 18:27.42 | knosys | like browser shortcuts, or things like that |
| 18:27.59 | BlaXpirit_ | super is actually the one key that is not used by client apps |
| 18:28.01 | knosys | and thats why its ignoring my Supr + R when I am with some client focused |
| 18:28.10 | knosys | Oh I see |
| 18:29.50 | knosys | Do you know the behaviour of Gnome when you press Super + left arrow, or right arrow? It stick to that side, occuping about half screen width and 100% height, I found that VERY usefull |
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| 18:30.13 | knosys | to keep reading some background window, while editing in other foreground window |
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| 18:30.51 | knosys | But havent found how to customize that yet in the shortcuts menu |
| 18:30.52 | BlaXpirit_ | pretty sure you can get this behavior |
| 18:31.54 | BlaXpirit_ | just browse through general keyboard shortcuts |
| 18:31.57 | BlaXpirit_ | mainly KWin |
| 18:32.06 | BlaXpirit_ | all sorts of useful stuff there |
| 18:32.17 | knosys | Ill take a look and give a feedback :) |
| 18:32.31 | BlaXpirit_ | you can drag with mouse to do that, too |
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| 18:33.16 | knosys | In that cases my both hands are in keyboard and I want to keep them there |
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| 18:35.52 | knosys | nice last time didnt see this components.. a lot of situations here to assign a hotkey |
| 18:37.55 | knosys | Quick Tile Window to the left, right, top, bottom ... fount it |
| 18:37.58 | knosys | found* |
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| 20:31.40 | moviuro | aaargh, I've got 16 virtual desktops, all full! I'm dooooooomed x) |
| 20:32.13 | moviuro | http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/24/plasma-desktopcqY764.png |
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| 20:46.45 | Sho_ | moviuro: and you spend 90% of the day on the lower-right one right? :) |
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| 20:53.36 | BlaXpirit_ | virtual desktops aren't the solution |
| 20:54.25 | BlaXpirit_ | you have 1 app per desktop |
| 20:54.33 | BlaXpirit_ | that's lame |
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| 20:59.51 | moviuro | Sho_: no, that's not it, I swear! ;) Only when eating |
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| 21:01.18 | moviuro | BlaXpirit_: so tell me, how do I easily keep track of what is going on? I highly dislike having to scan through a taskbar (don't have any) |
| 21:01.35 | moviuro | and the visual layout actually helps |
| 21:01.45 | BlaXpirit_ | so scanning through 16 desktops is better? |
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| 21:02.24 | moviuro | 1: music, 2: IRC, 3: chat, 4: mail, 5: web, 7: overview, 16: movies |
| 21:02.44 | BlaXpirit_ | sounds a lot like Activities |
| 21:02.53 | moviuro | I don't have to scan through, because they each have their very own space on the grid |
| 21:03.15 | moviuro | BlaXpirit_: problem with activities is that you can't jump from one to an other with the same windows |
| 21:03.31 | moviuro | I'd like to move a konsole from IRC to Web, for example |
| 21:03.43 | moviuro | clic'n'drag'n'done |
| 21:04.05 | moviuro | and I didn't get how to quickly jump between activities |
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| 21:07.24 | mystica555_ | \rightclick menubar > activities ? |
| 21:07.31 | mystica555_ | erm sorry window border titlebar |
| 21:07.33 | mystica555_ | not menubar |
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| 21:12.27 | lord_rob | Hi! When I go to sound settings in KDE control center I see my sound cards, they are both greyed out (except the virtual device) and I cannot do anything with them. Only the virtual device is accessible and I hear no sound. Any idea why ? |
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| 21:13.18 | lord_rob | (seems to be a pulseaudio problem) |
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| 21:13.53 | moviuro | mystica555_: I don't have any window borders either :-/ |
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| 21:17.31 | mystica555_ | moviuro: try alt-f3 to pop up the menu? |
| 21:17.49 | moviuro | mystica555_: yep, that works :) |
| 21:18.33 | moviuro | I tried some time ago, but am not really into changing my habit s right now (exams are really close, i'll see by Friday or so, when the school year is over) |
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| 21:20.07 | mystica555_ | ah :) |
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| 21:54.08 | yezariael | hi! i just migrated to kmail and managed to get all my imap folders set up. when i write a mail now, kde proposes known addresses as receivers. is there a way to somehow use this to create an address book? |
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| 22:08.29 | moviuro | yezariael: interesting question. I think you might have better luck asking on #kontact, though |
| 22:09.13 | yezariael | moviuro: true, thanks. I didn't even know that existed. |
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