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01:20.01 | lainlives | krunner is automatically pasting text from mouse highlighted text when opening |
01:20.05 | lainlives | is this supposed to be like this |
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06:20.28 | sudo_woodo | hi |
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06:21.10 | sudo_woodo | I'm buying an ThinkPad X1 Carbon and I wondered if it would be a good idea to install Active Plasma to take advantage of the touch screen. Am I right? |
06:24.53 | Jucato | sudo_woodo: sadly, the last stable Plasma Active release was a long long time ago. can't really recommend it at this point. it's being worked on, but it will most likely take a different form when it's ready |
06:25.11 | Jucato | gets a pokeball in the meantime ... |
06:26.04 | lainlives | krunner is automatically pasting text from mouse highlighted text when opening |
06:26.05 | lainlives | is this supposed to be like this |
06:27.10 | sudo_woodo | Jucato: I see. So, any recommendation to work with KDE on touchscreens? |
06:27.11 | Jucato | lainlives: i don't think so. never seen it do that |
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06:28.09 | Jucato | sudo_woodo: not exactly. i just use things as it is. for a virtual keyboard, you can use kvkbd and set it to autostart when you log in (it will keep a system tray icon you can use to make it show up) |
06:28.13 | lainlives | ill get a hold of the guy who compiled the packages then |
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06:29.45 | Jucato | sudo_woodo: anyway, even if you had a touch-friendly Plasma shell, you'd still have to deal with regular desktop apps that weren't designed with touch in mind. Plasma Active's selection even then was quite few and far in between anyway |
06:30.26 | lainlives | i think current desktop apps work fine as a touchscreen interface |
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06:30.53 | sudo_woodo | Jucato: so the problem is KDE-based apps, Qt-based apps or other apps? |
06:31.13 | sudo_woodo | or finally non-plasmaActive apps? |
06:32.17 | Jucato | lainlives: they work fine, sure. just not optimized. and there are some corner cases. particularly when the widgets/controls are too small to hit |
06:32.33 | Jucato | sudo_woodo: mostly all of the above :) |
06:32.50 | sudo_woodo | Jucato: I see. |
06:32.51 | Jucato | it's a mixed bag. everything is almost usable depending on your tolerance level |
06:33.11 | lainlives | Jucato: yea i just hope optimzing for teh sake of touch doesnt end up mutilating some UIs in the near future (not just KDE project, just software as a whole) |
06:33.26 | Jucato | i can use KDE without a keybaoard/mouse and using only a virtual keyboard and a stylus if it comes down to it |
06:33.40 | sudo_woodo | Jucato: do you knwo if eventually KDE will turn in a kind-of 'responsive' environment according to the screen? |
06:34.13 | sudo_woodo | (comparison would sound weird) like Bootstrap makes on the web? |
06:34.26 | Jucato | sudo_woodo: "eventually". but yes, people are already working on that i think. forgot the term for it. resolution-independent or whatever |
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06:35.19 | Jucato | lainlives: sadly, i (personally) think people have become too scared of that "threat" that they don't seem to actually want to work on those things. linux will probably catch up on touch stuff by 2020. |
06:35.26 | Jucato | (yeah, exaggeration and sarcasm) |
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06:37.11 | lainlives | well thankfully i hate touchscreens |
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06:37.44 | sudo_woodo | but I live Thinkpads XD |
06:37.47 | sudo_woodo | *love |
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06:39.21 | Jucato | shrugs |
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07:02.30 | sudo_woodo | Jucato, thanks for your expertise. cya |
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07:13.38 | Mo | Hi, I can't setup KDE icon size, list box is empty. What is missing here? |
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07:50.58 | Verge | Apparently Dolphin bookmarks don't still work |
07:51.27 | Verge | It simply forgets everything after restarting Dolphin |
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07:51.53 | CounterPillow | Verge, it's an issue with KF5 and kde4 apps I beloeve |
07:53.17 | CounterPillow | I think it's fixed upstream though I'm not sure. At any rate, it'll be resolved once all apps transition to kf5 |
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07:55.02 | Jucato | it should have been fixed in Plasma 5.2.1 |
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08:04.54 | CounterPillow | Has anyone else had the issue where quick tiling in plasma 5 sometimes leaves a small border at the edge? |
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08:06.53 | CounterPillow | I'll be sure to check bugs.kde.org when I get home and if I find nothing report it properly there. |
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08:10.14 | CounterPillow | Might be this https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344234 |
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09:45.20 | DrZaius | anybody here that uses korganizer? after you make a todo entry with another todo entry, is it possible to make up one level? |
09:45.42 | DrZaius | i accidentaly dragged and dropped a whole category inside another one |
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09:45.57 | leszek | dragging it out again doesn't work ? |
09:46.12 | DrZaius | im trying to drag it out, but i cant find the swet spot where this works |
09:46.12 | leszek | and what about ctrl+z (undo) isn't that available ? |
09:46.58 | DrZaius | ctrl + z works... unfourtenetly i already closed and reopened u.u |
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09:47.15 | DrZaius | so i lost the undo possibility |
09:47.27 | leszek | hmm... then I don't know how to do this otherwise |
09:47.51 | DrZaius | yeah, i was afraid of that :S |
09:48.24 | DrZaius | the drag and drop should totally work... but it only seems to be working to move between sub-do categories |
09:48.37 | DrZaius | i cant find the sweet spot where you drop it out |
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09:49.06 | DrZaius | mmm maybe editing the files? |
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09:49.25 | DrZaius | is there a file associated with the todo? |
09:50.06 | DrZaius | i was interested on this to be able to do a backup as well |
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09:54.06 | DrZaius | none of this files seems to have the actual data :S locate korganizer |grep home |
09:54.29 | DrZaius | maybe is it saved on some database? |
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10:17.39 | DrZaius | none of the files it reads seems to have this database :( |
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10:17.42 | DrZaius | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10683085/ |
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10:18.58 | DrZaius | it checks the existence of kdeglobals file 358 times o.O |
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10:22.18 | Jucato | you could try asking in #kdepim in case someone there knows |
10:22.49 | DrZaius | thanks Jucato! |
10:24.07 | DrZaius | nobody in there :S |
10:24.35 | Jucato | oops sorry. my bad. #kontact |
10:24.46 | Jucato | my apologies. kinda busy and typed too quick |
10:24.51 | DrZaius | thanks! |
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10:59.54 | _rd | Hi, after reboot the taskbar and wallpapers are gone in my account. The issue seems to be related to my account, since it works as expected on a new account. |
11:00.13 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
11:00.24 | _rd | Is there anything I can do except renaming the .kde directory? |
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11:03.56 | DrZaius | _rd: i dont know much about... but you just described the most straight forward way to do it |
11:04.08 | DrZaius | about kde* |
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11:05.42 | _rd | The downside is that I need to do quite a lot of customization again. |
11:06.24 | _rd | Does anybody know the name of the appliation which should provide a taskbar? and walletpaper? |
11:06.41 | _rd | If yes I could at least check .xsession-errors for that |
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11:10.34 | lainlives | _rd: hmm try deleting relevent files in .kde/share/apps/plasma* |
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12:21.21 | styx__ | hi! im using arch linux and in the right click menu are the icons missing when i'm in i3. when im in kde, it's fine. what could be missing in i3? |
12:22.58 | d__ed | XDG_DATA_DIRS not being set? |
12:23.24 | styx__ | d__ed: Not, it's not set in i3 |
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12:35.06 | _rd | I fixed my problem that the plasma taskbar was not appearing. I iteratively removed files and finally removing "rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*" made KDE starting properly again. |
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13:17.17 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
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13:17.29 | cousin_luigi | Anyone using bd-re and k3b? I can't seem to blank the media. |
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13:44.23 | s4ndm4n | Why the window title bars are transparent in QtCurve? like this: https://i.imgur.com/LZUCC7L.jpg |
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14:14.29 | Mahe | s4ndm4n: it might be related to the QtCurve theme you are using |
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14:22.51 | s4ndm4n | Mahe: I am missing some buttons if you look carefully on that image. Plus doesn't QtCurve entry look distorted to you? |
14:23.47 | s4ndm4n | What I did last time: Installed Yawc and libkactivities-dev and removed both |
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14:29.12 | Vamp898 | Hi, we have one client with the following problem. We add Network-Folders (SMB) to the "Places" in Dolphin. When i close Dolphin and re-open it, they are no longer away |
14:30.11 | Vamp898 | We did the same thing on 4 clients before and it always worked... no clue what goes wrong on this one |
14:31.41 | Vamp898 | *they are no longer there |
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14:36.33 | Vamp898 | Where do changes to the "Places" in Dolphin gets saved? |
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14:38.55 | leszek | Vamp898: ~/.local/share/user-places.xbel |
14:39.32 | leszek | Vamp898: I only know of a plasma 5 and kde sc 4 conflict. But your problem is kde sc 4 only ? |
14:40.29 | Vamp898 | KDE SC 4 only |
14:40.39 | Vamp898 | the file user-places.xbel doesnt exist on this client and doesnt get created |
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14:42.09 | leszek | Vamp898: what version exactly is it then ? Because I have 4.14.3 running here which creates this file |
14:42.35 | Vamp898 | leszek: 4.14.3 |
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14:42.52 | Vamp898 | leszek: All clients run 4.14.3 and it does work on all clients, just not on this one, but they are all identical... |
14:43.34 | leszek | thats strange then. Anything useful in the error log in ~/.xsession-errors ? Like no right to write to that file or such ? |
14:45.07 | Vamp898 | leszek: the only error related to this in the xsession-errors is dolphin(5670) KSambaSharePrivate::findSmbConf: KSambaShare: Could not find smb.conf! |
14:46.00 | leszek | ok thats a normal error |
14:47.16 | leszek | Vamp898: are there files in ~/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/ |
14:48.13 | Vamp898 | leszek: there is also this one in the logs: plasma-desktop(4929) KBookmarkManager::notifyChanged: KBookmarkManager::notifyChanged ( "" ) |
14:49.15 | Vamp898 | leszek: there are some files in kfileplaces: bookmarks.xml bookmarks.xml.bak bookmarks.xml.tbcache |
14:49.32 | leszek | can you check in bookmarks.xml if there is the bookmark you created |
14:49.35 | leszek | or the user |
14:50.11 | Vamp898 | leszek: not there |
14:50.21 | leszek | ok very strange |
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14:52.38 | leszek | Vamp898: can you try creating an empty user-places.xbel in ~/.local/share |
14:52.48 | leszek | maybe dolphin fills it up once the file is there |
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14:54.11 | Vamp898 | leszek: already checked, dolphin does nothing when i create something in places. The files never get changed/written |
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14:59.32 | leszek | Vamp898: and you are sure that all the rights of the folders are ok ? |
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17:06.01 | ValdikSS | Hello! I use KDE4 on ArchLinux and some applications from KDE Frameworks on Qt5. I can't type Cyrillic acute symbols in, for example, Kate or Kwrite with Qt5. Latin characters works fine. Can anybody help me with this? Any tip how to debug? |
17:07.11 | ValdikSS | I have the following in my ~/.XCompose: |
17:07.13 | ValdikSS | <Multi_key> <Cyrillic_a> : "аÌ" # CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER A WITH COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT |
17:07.46 | rdieter | ValdikSS: if you're using ibus input method, I think there's a Qt5 patch to fix that |
17:07.48 | ValdikSS | If I type <Multi_key> <Cyrillic_a> in Kate, it just types usual "а" (cyrillic) without acute. |
17:07.56 | ValdikSS | rdieter: I don't. |
17:08.06 | rdieter | ok, then it's some other problem |
17:08.41 | ValdikSS | Does anyone know what Firefox uses? It doesn't work in firefox either. I'm pretty sure it doesn't use Qt5. |
17:08.43 | rdieter | https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/109285/ the one I'm aware of |
17:09.59 | ValdikSS | rdieter: my other custom combinations from xcompose work, and even latin acutes work. |
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18:41.12 | hmacedo | anyone know how to get skype on systray again?? |
18:41.18 | hmacedo | im using KDE5 |
18:41.57 | hmacedo | hes working, but i can see just the notifications (like, friends online/offline) |
18:42.13 | rdieter | hmacedo: install sni-qt , https://launchpad.net/sni-qt |
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18:44.00 | hmacedo | its installed v0.2.6-4 |
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18:44.45 | rdieter | hmacedo: same plugin arch as is skype too? (in case this is a 64bit host system, you need 32bit sni-qt for 32bit skype) |
18:45.54 | hmacedo | i686? |
18:47.10 | rdieter | yes (probably) |
18:47.55 | rdieter | more details: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ |
18:47.57 | hmacedo | installed.. i need to reboot now or configure something? |
18:48.14 | rdieter | assuming you have modern qt5 build? 5.4 or patched 5.3 |
18:48.20 | rdieter | then it should work |
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18:50.03 | hmacedo | im using KDE5.7 downloaded yesterday |
18:50.38 | rdieter | that's kde frameworks (not Qt version) |
18:51.22 | hmacedo | where i can see the qt version? (sorry.. i'm new) |
18:51.31 | rdieter | anyway, like I said, it *should* work, may be worth asking your distro at this point (and maybe mention the aforementioned blog post too) |
18:51.51 | rdieter | if your distro still has unpatched 5.3, they really ought to fix that |
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18:53.20 | rdieter | hmacedo: what distro are you using? |
18:53.47 | rdieter | (in case anyone else here has distro-specific advice) |
18:54.32 | hmacedo | Fedora 21 |
18:54.58 | rdieter | oops, that's me :) |
18:55.20 | rdieter | I can vouche f21 has qt-5.4, and that it definitely works for me |
18:55.42 | rdieter | hmacedo: I can give you a non-skype example to try |
18:56.10 | rdieter | hmacedo: is this a x86_64 or i686 system? |
18:56.19 | hmacedo | x86_64 |
18:56.40 | hmacedo | its working now |
18:56.53 | hmacedo | i have killed the skype proccess and opened again |
18:56.58 | rdieter | oh \o/ |
18:57.06 | hmacedo | Many thanks! \o/ |
18:57.45 | hmacedo | but.. the x86_64 softwares will get some problems to use the systray? |
18:58.36 | hmacedo | or its just an i686 "bug" |
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21:44.13 | Case_Of | is it possible to add a vlc icon in the kde plasma5 systray ? |
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22:03.40 | rdieter | Case_Of: yes, vlc supports having a systray icon |
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22:03.56 | rdieter | iirc |
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22:05.25 | rdieter | Case_Of: see also http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ , if your distro provides sni-qt + patched Qt libraries, it should 'just work' |
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23:21.47 | DrZaius | is it possible to run 2 instances of yakuake? |
23:22.05 | DrZaius | im trying with yakuake --nofork --config /seconf.file but is not working :S |
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23:51.06 | Seylerius | I hear KDE's looking really good these days. |
23:51.26 | Seylerius | I'm considering switching to that from Gnome3. |
23:51.44 | Seylerius | My major holdouts are Firefox, which is a GTK-only app iirc. |
23:51.50 | Seylerius | Anyone have any tips on doing this? |
23:52.18 | waltercool | Seylerius: what you want to do? |
23:52.27 | waltercool | Gnome -> KDE4? |
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23:54.17 | Seylerius | waltercool: KDE4, Plasma5, etc. |
23:54.43 | waltercool | I think the difficulty depends from the user and the distribution, but is no hard |
23:54.50 | Seylerius | Also, how's KDE on vaguely apple-flavored (or more properly, inspired) docks at the bottom? |
23:55.02 | waltercool | For firefox, you can use GTK styles on KDE4 and looks good |
23:55.14 | DrZaius | Seylerius: not sure if firefox is gtk, but even if if it were... what are a few more libs |
23:55.16 | waltercool | You will only be missing the file manager |
23:55.25 | waltercool | DrZaius: is GTK |
23:56.14 | Dattorz | I don't think Firefox even makes native use of the GTK theme... just samples images and settings and tries to fit them to its own toolkit |
23:56.56 | waltercool | Nope, is fully GTK, if you don't use the GTK Styles for QT, will look HORRIBLE |
23:56.57 | DrZaius | i use apps from all toolkits... and i dont have the best computer around |
23:57.17 | DrZaius | my window decorators are from kde... |
23:57.20 | DrZaius | on firefox |
23:57.46 | DrZaius | not sure what else uses from gtk |
23:57.53 | waltercool | yeah, but you should have GTK styles on your KDE preferences |
23:58.18 | waltercool | oxygen-gtk does the work to make GTK looks like Oxygen |
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23:59.07 | Dattorz | waltercool: I have seen tons of theming bugs in Firefox that wouldn't occur in any other app using the GTK theme |
23:59.13 | Dattorz | I really don't think it uses GTK directly |
23:59.45 | DrZaius | well, im trying to convert from one gtk program to the qt version... tilda to yakuake... (im only doing it because transparency does not work on kde and i really need it) |