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| 04:33.26 | shevy | guys, I am confused about the naming conventions here: http://download.kde.org/stable/applications/15.04.2/src/ |
| 04:33.38 | shevy | so we have something like kde-workspace-4.11.20.tar.xz |
| 04:33.49 | shevy | then we also have something like kdelibs-4.14.9.tar.xz |
| 04:34.00 | shevy | and finally, we also have something like kdeedu-data-15.04.2.tar.xz |
| 04:34.08 | xiaomiao | shevy: isn't it awesome :D |
| 04:34.14 | shevy | I think some days ago or so I asked about 15.xx |
| 04:34.21 | xiaomiao | misses the days of human-readable versions |
| 04:34.22 | shevy | and I think rdieter or so said this is probably kde5 or so |
| 04:34.34 | shevy | but that still leaves the 4.11.x and 4.14.x thingy |
| 04:34.55 | shevy | xiaomiao well, my brain can make this association |
| 04:35.00 | shevy | qt 4... kde 4.x |
| 04:35.01 | shevy | :) |
| 04:35.08 | shevy | the qt 5 ... kde 15.x is more confusing |
| 04:35.21 | shevy | but the 4.11 versus 4.14 now that's just weird |
| 04:35.22 | xiaomiao | shevy: as far as I remember, the 4.11 versions haven't had any new releases, so instead of "just renaming" they got locked to that version |
| 04:35.29 | xiaomiao | then the rest had 4.12 ... 4.14 releases |
| 04:35.29 | shevy | hmm |
| 04:35.52 | xiaomiao | and the whole bunch has a meta-version of "KDE4 14.11" or whatever based on the release date |
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| 04:36.26 | xiaomiao | does not appreciate random unneeded complexity |
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| 07:36.10 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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| 08:12.48 | inkbottle | Hi, is there a bug on "kde bugs" related to this debian bug? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760707 |
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| 08:32.52 | frenda | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.33 | Jucato | frenda: "KDE" now refers to the community making software. plasma is just one of those software, one that encompasses workspaces, which inlcudes shells (desktop or others like tablet or media center) and window manager (kwin is part of the plasma umbrella) and other stuff |
| 08:35.51 | donniezazen | KDE is you and me, the community, whereas Plasma 5 is the shell. |
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| 08:37.52 | frenda | 'The default desktop in Kubuntu is Plasma5'. 'The default desktop in Mageia is KDE', Are these phrases true? |
| 08:38.07 | frenda | The default desktop in Mageia is KDE4* |
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| 08:40.35 | Jucato | frenda: the rebranding is quitw new. back in "KDE 4" yes there wasn't a strong distinction until towards the end (you can see it in the release announcements last year) |
| 08:41.51 | Jucato | starting with what some are calling "KDE 5", the branding is being emphasized more. so yes the desktop is Plasma 5 now. back then "KDE" was still considered a desktop environment |
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| 08:50.22 | frenda | Jucato: Should we call KDE4 as Plasma4 to reflect this change? |
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| 08:54.02 | Jucato | hah, it's kinda too late for that. But hear the end of the "KDE 4" cycle anyway we started separating releases into "development platform", workspace", and apps |
| 08:55.15 | Jucato | meant to write "nah" but came out as "hah" sorry |
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| 09:07.25 | frenda | Is there any reference for this rebranding: KDE Desktop --> Plasma Desktop? I want link it to my blog post.0 |
| 09:07.52 | frenda | I want to link it in my blog post. |
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| 09:09.48 | Jucato | frenda: sorry i don't have the liberty of time to dig for them right now. but you can search in kdenews.org (dot.kde.org) if you really want to |
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| 09:10.35 | Jucato | you'll probably have to go back a year or so |
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| 09:40.58 | jalalsfs | Any one can use 'spell check with applications 15 verstion? |
| 09:41.23 | jalalsfs | I tried 'KWrite' , 'konversation' and 'kate' |
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| 10:13.09 | natschil | Hi, I'm using some version of Plasma 5 (either 5.2 or 5.3), and for some reason, whatever I do, chrome starts when I click a link, despite the fact that firefox is set as the default browser in the kde settings. This is really annoying, is this a known bug? |
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| 10:44.18 | karolherbst | natschil: it depends on how your system is configured |
| 10:44.39 | karolherbst | what does a simple xdg-open "the_link" do? |
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| 10:47.54 | zaccanasta | hello guys, i have problems with kde file open dialog from a qt5 application |
| 10:48.06 | zaccanasta | sometimes dialog doesn't show up, i get kf5.kservice.sycoca: Trying to open ksycoca from "/home/franco/.cache/ksycoca5" in the console |
| 10:48.30 | zaccanasta | im using frameworks 5.10.0 |
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| 12:39.41 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 12:58.29 | nostrora | Hello, i have dual screen, i want my wallpaper are the the same image in two screen. how can i do that ? |
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| 14:06.16 | Walex2 | two activities with the same background image. |
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| 14:17.21 | cmdbbq | why might chrome have no sound, but everything else works fine, even after purging and freshly reinstalling chrome? |
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| 14:20.39 | cmdbbq | wait, no, it's stranger than that. web videos, firefox and chrome, have no sound never mind, still not sure what's going on |
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| 14:37.31 | jalalsfs | landi: Add your accounts to there, open it through "System settings >> Online Accounting" |
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| 14:39.33 | landi | jalalsfs: but it`s not showing the facebook and google options...i`m on opensuse |
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| 15:24.38 | kc8hfi | Is there a way to change the systray icons in plasma 5? |
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| 15:28.54 | rdieter | kc8hfi: looks like the system location is /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/<theme>/icons |
| 15:29.11 | rdieter | kc8hfi: so maybe try ~/.local/share/plasma/desktoptheme/<theme>/icons ? |
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| 15:34.30 | kc8hfi | rdieter: is breeze the default? |
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| 15:35.01 | rdieter | kc8hfi: for folder name? breeze folder name is "default" , if that's what you're asking |
| 15:35.11 | kc8hfi | yeah |
| 15:35.46 | rdieter | (yes, that's a little confusing, I personally don't like that the foldername != themename in this case) |
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| 15:38.38 | kc8hfi | I had to create the plasma/desktoptheme/default/icons directory structure under ~/.local/share |
| 15:39.01 | kc8hfi | logging off and back on to see what that does... |
| 15:39.22 | rdieter | there's a chance you may need to clear some icon/pixmap cache's |
| 15:39.28 | rdieter | (if it doesn't work) |
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| 15:40.17 | kc8hfi | that worked! |
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| 16:07.04 | benkevan | Hi all.. I'm having an issue with kate5 where my P is seen as an e I've removed my kate config files.. to no avail |
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| 16:09.41 | benkevan | I changed fonts within kate and that appears to have fixed it..w tf |
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| 16:13.58 | zaccanasta | hello guys, i have problems with kde file open dialog from a qt5 application |
| 16:14.08 | zaccanasta | sometimes dialog doesn't show up, i get kf5.kservice.sycoca: Trying to open ksycoca from "/home/franco/.cache/ksycoca5" in the console |
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| 16:14.30 | zaccanasta | i'm using frameworks 5.10.0 |
| 16:15.02 | rdieter | zaccanasta: can you verify that ownership/permissions on /home/franco/.cache/ksycoca5 is correct ? |
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| 16:15.56 | rdieter | (it can get broken if you ever use 'sudo <kdeapp>') |
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| 16:16.20 | zaccanasta | permissions are ok |
| 16:17.07 | zaccanasta | btw it's a qt5 app |
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| 16:19.17 | zaccanasta | when file dialog doesn't show up application is unusable, i have to kill it |
| 16:21.50 | zaccanasta | i got No node found for item that was just removed: QUrl( "file:///home/franco/Immagini/HDR/RAW/PICT2376.MRW.xmp" ) but that file is there |
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| 16:41.39 | zaccanasta | any ideas? |
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| 17:07.05 | ponyofdeath | hi, anyone know why rxvt-terminal windows do not resize as well as qt windows? |
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| 17:29.12 | roberth1990 | ponyofdeath: because rxvt is based on outdated technology |
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| 17:29.53 | ponyofdeath | roberth1990: :( konsole does not handle base16 color scheme properly |
| 17:30.57 | roberth1990 | ponyofdeath: ask your self, is colors or resizing more important? |
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| 17:31.26 | ponyofdeath | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344181 |
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| 17:32.12 | roberth1990 | ponyofdeath: what version of konsole are you on? |
| 17:32.32 | ponyofdeath | roberth1990: gentoo -9999 frameworks |
| 17:33.07 | roberth1990 | ponyofdeath: I don't use gentoo, so I don't know what that means... |
| 17:33.18 | ponyofdeath | latest frameworks from git |
| 17:33.22 | ponyofdeath | version |
| 17:33.37 | ponyofdeath | 3.91.0 |
| 17:33.38 | roberth1990 | okay |
| 17:33.54 | roberth1990 | well then you got to choose... |
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| 17:48.45 | ponyofdeath | roberth1990: so why does konsole not allow to re-define colors 16 through 21? |
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| 17:49.22 | roberth1990 | ponyofdeath: I dont know |
| 17:49.32 | roberth1990 | I just use the defaults when it comes to colors |
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| 18:38.50 | alphakiller | hi all |
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| 18:39.46 | alphakiller | I've an old notebook with 32Mb of video memory and I want to recycle it with kde 2... can someone knows where I can download it please? |
| 18:40.09 | alphakiller | the source |
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| 18:44.27 | ompaul | alphakiller: good luck with your search I'd suggest actually abandoning the search for the pain it will cause you, give someone 200 euros for a more modern machine and get on with life |
| 18:44.41 | shevy | hehe |
| 18:44.49 | shevy | alphakiller can you find the source? |
| 18:44.50 | ompaul | How do I patch KDE2 under FreeBSD |
| 18:44.58 | shevy | nah |
| 18:45.00 | ompaul | it was a meme in Russia :) |
| 18:45.04 | shevy | nobody uses freebsd |
| 18:45.14 | ompaul | I used to use KDE1 on FreeBSD :) |
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| 18:45.23 | shevy | and what do you use these days? |
| 18:45.39 | ompaul | kde4.14 on debian sid |
| 18:45.49 | shevy | :) |
| 18:46.00 | alphakiller | I'm using FreeBSD -.-" ahahah |
| 18:46.10 | shevy | well |
| 18:46.15 | shevy | I think I can find kde 3 source |
| 18:46.17 | shevy | but kde2 ... |
| 18:46.50 | shevy | mirrors such as ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/kde/stable/ typically will have only 4.xx some |
| 18:47.02 | alphakiller | kde3 is still to heavy |
| 18:47.07 | rdieter | if you insist, it's under Attic, http://download.kde.org/Attic/ |
| 18:47.31 | alphakiller | rdieter: love you :D |
| 18:47.34 | shevy | wow |
| 18:47.44 | shevy | did you just upload it right now rdieter! |
| 18:48.03 | shevy | alphakiller somewhat kde3-centric is https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ |
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| 18:48.28 | shevy | alphakiller can you compile that actually?? |
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| 18:48.45 | shevy | kdegames-2.2.2.tar.bz2 haha... 8.4 MB |
| 18:48.51 | ompaul | well maybe if you use freebsd 2.2 |
| 18:49.25 | ompaul | but the security holes gave to be massive - I'm trying to remember if SSH was there or just thereabouts |
| 18:49.50 | shevy | our prayers be with you alphakiller |
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| 18:50.26 | BlaXpirit | alphakiller, i wouldn't even consider such an option |
| 18:50.27 | ompaul | it's not prayers, but a bottle of vodka and a jar of coffee |
| 18:50.38 | BlaXpirit | mainly because i wouldn't have thought of it |
| 18:50.43 | BlaXpirit | just go for xfce, really :| |
| 18:51.15 | ompaul | 32 megs of ram ... it might have been impressive 20 years ago ... but now ... |
| 18:51.20 | shevy | yeah but |
| 18:51.23 | BlaXpirit | also is an acceptable reason to inquire about those featureless window managers that cool kids use |
| 18:51.26 | shevy | I send only my prayers to him |
| 18:51.29 | BlaXpirit | also note that it is NOT 32 megs of ram |
| 18:51.31 | shevy | the vodka and coffee I keep for myself :) |
| 18:51.35 | BlaXpirit | but of video memory |
| 18:51.37 | ompaul | shevy: :-) |
| 18:51.39 | BlaXpirit | which is pretty good |
| 18:51.56 | shevy | BlaXpirit the kde2 will be lightning fast on his machine! |
| 18:53.00 | ompaul | you talk to people as if they were there, and it turns out it's behind their backs :) |
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| 19:08.25 | cybermails | Is there any option to turn the 'Review' on by default in Okular? |
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| 19:15.45 | jalalsfs | How can I connect to Widows VPN server in KDE? there are more that options, what should I choose? |
| 19:19.20 | BlaXpirit | cybermails, just press the keyboard shortcut every time |
| 19:19.46 | cybermails | BlaXpirit: ahh.... lol |
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| 19:22.31 | BluesKaj | jalalsfs, depends which VPN protocol the server uses |
| 19:23.04 | jalalsfs | BluesKaj: Normal windows7 |
| 19:23.16 | inkbottle | [kmail] Hi, I can read my mails only if I restart akonadi, it might be related to that bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760707, I haven't seen a similar bug on KDE bugs |
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| 19:23.50 | BluesKaj | !vpn | jalalsfs |
| 19:24.09 | jalalsfs | yeah, |
| 19:24.16 | BluesKaj | hmm , no info |
| 19:25.12 | jalalsfs | I tried with pptp BluesKaj |
| 19:25.40 | jalalsfs | But I think I miss something, |
| 19:26.04 | jalalsfs | In Gateway field, what can I type there? |
| 19:26.29 | BluesKaj | jalalsfs, http://www.hacker10.com/computer-security/types-of-virtual-private-network-protocols-explained/ |
| 19:26.30 | jalalsfs | Is it my gateway of my router? or the vpn server IP? |
| 19:28.14 | jalalsfs | BluesKaj: yeah, thanks. I got it. I only ask now about what should I type in gateway box? and in 'NT Domain'? |
| 19:30.48 | BluesKaj | jalalsfs, dunno, you have to find that out from the sever |
| 19:30.52 | BluesKaj | server |
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| 19:39.51 | jalalsfs | BluesKaj: What distribute do you use? |
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| 19:50.31 | BluesKaj | jalalsfs, distro is Kubuntu 15.04 |
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| 19:52.44 | hikingpete | I just upgraded from FC21 to 22. I'm slowly trying to get everything back the way it was. I'm stumped on how to set my clock to 24 hour format. |
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| 19:55.14 | hikingpete | I'm also experiencing what seem to be weird modality issues with configuration windows. |
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| 20:00.32 | enno | the secret to setting the time format is fiddling around with locale settings |
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| 20:00.59 | enno | cant tell you more. i hit the right settings by random chance ;) |
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| 20:13.46 | vbgunz | Can you rotate a wallpaper for a desktop short of modifying the image to be rotated in the first place? |
| 20:15.11 | enno | dont know, but are you really running that short on disk space or are switching BGs that often taht it matters? :) |
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| 20:33.11 | g_ | Hi |
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| 20:34.31 | g_ | I have simple problems with kde 5 , first problem I can't found the lock screen in tool box on desktop. |
| 20:34.33 | g_ | image : http://s10.postimg.org/ac6vr9vxl/Untitled1.jpg |
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| 20:36.32 | g_ | second problem I have panel on desktop I make visibility "Windows can cover" the problem is if I work on firefox or any application I can't access to panel but in KDE 4 I can access it , in KDE 4 if I work on application the panel be hidden if I hover mouse on place panel , the panel be visible and I can access it. |
| 20:36.32 | g_ | image : http://s7.postimg.org/ig38otuy3/Untitled2.jpg |
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| 20:38.17 | g_ | HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP |
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| 20:43.50 | g_ | HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELPHELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELPHELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELPHELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELPHELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELPHELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP |
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| 20:54.28 | azlev | Hi all. I have a simple question. I'm using KDE5 and I created a new panel in the right side. Inside this panel, I have a System Load Viewer. How can I increase the System Load Viewer? |
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| 22:24.46 | Papierkorb | Hello. Using Kate 5.0.0 on KF 5.10.0 on ArchLinux x64 'latest' I can reliably crash the program by: 1) start kate 2) type anything in the new file opened 3) click on the X of the file in the tab bar to close this file 4) Kate asks if you want to save changes, choose [No] 5) Kate crashes |
| 22:25.48 | Papierkorb | Note: Closing the file through the documents browser (the bar on the left) by right-clicking on the document -> close does *not* crash kate |
| 22:27.17 | Papierkorb | This has been occuring to me since the current version only (pacman says the package was built on May 9th), but I may be wrong on that one |
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| 22:43.02 | teprrr | Papierkorb, you can report bugs inside the application by selecting help -> report bugs |
| 22:43.28 | teprrr | Papierkorb, note that for that you preferably have debug symbols for packages. otherwise the stacktraces are unfortunately not useful.. |
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| 22:44.24 | teprrr | Papierkorb, also, I can't make it crash here. same version, also running arch. :P |
| 22:45.32 | teprrr | Papierkorb, hmmh, actually I have version 15.04.2-1 available, 15.04.1-1 installed.. thanks for the tip, won't do upgrade then at least.. |
| 22:45.51 | teprrr | Papierkorb, but looks like there are quite a lot of things upgraded since my last time. including qt |
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