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| 08:16.25 | doomikus | I registered for an account with KDE Identity. When I click on the activation link, it's not possible to select a username, which is a required field |
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| 09:38.45 | ShalokShalom | Hi there :) |
| 09:38.46 | ShalokShalom | The german ubuntu wiki explains, that KDEs device manager and Dolphin is not able to show usb sticks |
| 09:38.46 | ShalokShalom | and such on PXE (LTSP) booted ThinClients, they mean, only Nautilus can do that. |
| 09:38.46 | ShalokShalom | Is this correct ? |
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| 10:19.46 | bcooksley | doomikus: reply to the mail asking sysadmin for assistance |
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| 10:39.14 | Walex | ShalokShalom: what does that mean? |
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| 10:40.01 | ShalokShalom | that dolphin and the kde device manager seems not able to show devices like a usb stick, when they are PXE LTSP Clients |
| 10:40.20 | ShalokShalom | if you log into the server and plugin the stick there, appear it |
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| 10:58.22 | at0m|c | hi, when logging in to kdm, selecting kde workspace, the desktop only shows an xterm and default background. right-clicking the desktop shows no menu to add panels or widgets. what is wrong here, how do i get kde workspace? |
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| 11:01.34 | at0m|c | when i select fluxbox, the same xterm and default kde background are shown. tried to mv .kde .kde.only.xterm but the result remains the same. |
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| 11:26.08 | worstje | Anyone here who knows Kompare sufficiently to talk me through using it? I can't seem to get it to do what I want. |
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| 11:28.41 | at0m|c | worstje: and what is it you want it to do |
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| 11:30.56 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 11:32.28 | worstje | at0m|c: I created a patch between two older versions of some source code (let's call them alpha1 and alpha2 respectively). Now I want to interactively apply these changes to a newer version which I'll call beta1. No matter how I try to load it, the left and right side views will always be some kind of blended yellow stuff whilst the source and destination folders say 'alpha1' and 'alpha2' |
| 11:32.28 | worstje | respectively. |
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| 11:33.07 | worstje | I can't seem to get it to show me the red-blue addition stuff whilst knowing I am applying it to my newer source code. |
| 11:34.11 | worstje | By blended yellow stuff (geez, could I be more vague?) I mean that it seems to show the old content in both cases. All I get is that there's a change involved, but I don't see the new code getting applied, making it useless to me. |
| 11:34.30 | mac^^^ | I simply copied a script from .kde/Autostart (plasma 4) to .config/autostart (plasma 5) but it doesnt run |
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| 11:35.14 | rdieter | mac^^^: plasma5 autostart only supports .desktop files currently |
| 11:37.04 | rdieter | whatever script you had, you can probably adapt it to run that way too, see /etc/xdg/autostart for examples |
| 11:37.55 | mac^^^ | thanks, i'll look at that, my only goal is to have the script run when I login (it puts up several konsoles on different virtual desktops) |
| 11:39.51 | mac^^^ | BTW, someone fixed track mouse with updates today :) |
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| 11:44.47 | mac^^^ | i looked at /etc/xdg/xscreensaver-autostart.desktop to see an example. Just copy that file and change a few lines and put it in .config/autostart/myfile.desktop? |
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| 11:58.43 | mac^^^ | I think I'll just wait till autostart works in plasma 5 |
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| 12:08.29 | mac^^^ | well, I am making a little progress on making autostart work, xdotool is failing on getactive window |
| 12:09.22 | mac^^^ | that same script works if I run it manually AFTER loggin in |
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| 12:14.15 | rdieter | if you copy that .desktop to ~/.Desktop, does executing it there work? |
| 12:14.23 | rdieter | if not, mind sharing it? I can take a look |
| 12:14.27 | rdieter | mac^^^: ^^ |
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| 12:26.01 | mac^^^ | back, let me try |
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| 12:28.05 | rdieter | scripts likely will never be supported, at least not there, the spec doesn't support it: http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html |
| 12:28.31 | rdieter | .kde/Autostart is legacy thing dating back to kde3 |
| 12:29.53 | mac^^^ | the script I want to run is a 2 line script: #!/bin/sh /usba/qlaunch.pl getDesktop |
| 12:30.28 | rdieter | That's doable, can I see the .desktop file you're trying? |
| 12:30.37 | mac^^^ | let me fpaste it |
| 12:31.01 | rdieter | the .desktop file could probably reference qlaunch.pl directly too, e.g. Exec=/usba/qlaunch.pl getDesktop |
| 12:31.31 | mac^^^ | http://ut1.ca/msczz |
| 12:32.03 | mac^^^ | http://ur1.ca/msczz |
| 12:32.24 | mac^^^ | I am sure i have something wrong in that |
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| 12:34.06 | mac^^^ | i have that as qlaunch_getDesktop.desktop in .config/autostart |
| 12:34.42 | mac^^^ | also has "x" perm if thats necessary |
| 12:34.44 | rdieter | mac^^^: one thing, since it's not a gui app, you need to add key: Terminal=1 |
| 12:35.20 | rdieter | see also: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html#recognized-keys |
| 12:35.21 | mac^^^ | it uses a lot of "stuff", kstart, konsole, xdotool |
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| 12:36.50 | kiorky | hi, on an ubuntu 15.04 (kde5), i have a strange behavior recently |
| 12:36.55 | mac^^^ | that seemed to be the "magic" line, its working rdieter |
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| 12:37.07 | mac^^^ | now to document it |
| 12:37.07 | kiorky | after something like 4 or 5 minutes on my session |
| 12:37.19 | kiorky | (either without or with resetting the whole kde configuration) |
| 12:37.26 | kiorky | the keyboard and the mouse are locking up |
| 12:37.57 | kiorky | (if i hit C+alt+F1, im still able to get a tty and restart the greeter |
| 12:38.01 | kiorky | to reopen a new session |
| 12:38.26 | kiorky | with another dm (unitfy, xfce, the problem is not occuring ...) |
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| 12:38.48 | kiorky | nothing strange inside logs (X, lightm) |
| 12:40.31 | rdieter | kiorky: when you say "mouse lock up" , you mean it stops moving? |
| 12:40.55 | rdieter | if so, that usually means X/display-driver issue |
| 12:41.08 | kiorky | rdieter: the touchpad is able to move the pointer |
| 12:41.26 | kiorky | rdieter: but i cant click either by touchpad tap or by physical buttons |
| 12:41.30 | kiorky | (it's a thinkpad laptop) |
| 12:41.38 | rdieter | kiorky: ok, so mouse moves? |
| 12:41.41 | kiorky | rdieter: and the keyboard cant send any keys |
| 12:41.54 | kiorky | rdieter: (well "the x session" dosnt receives them |
| 12:41.57 | rdieter | kiorky: are you sure? |
| 12:42.04 | kiorky | as a control alt f1 still forward me to a console |
| 12:42.06 | rdieter | for example, does ALT-F2 bring up krunner ? |
| 12:42.10 | kiorky | rdieter: nope |
| 12:42.23 | kiorky | rdieter: (there is a bug on the thinkpad, alt f2 wont work |
| 12:42.32 | rdieter | ok, I've seen cases of plasmshell deadlocks, but krunner still works |
| 12:42.36 | kiorky | rdieter: but alt f1 does, and volume control also |
| 12:42.53 | kiorky | rdieter: but when the lock arrise |
| 12:43.02 | rdieter | your case is one i've not heard of before |
| 12:43.10 | kiorky | rdieter: i cant do anything that moving the mouse and go to a console restarting X |
| 12:44.08 | kiorky | rdieter: i was just running a tail -f |
| 12:44.10 | kiorky | waiting for the lock |
| 12:44.18 | kiorky | rdieter: tail -f on xerror |
| 12:44.31 | kiorky | rdieter: http://pastebin.com/x8S97182 |
| 12:45.27 | kiorky | rdieter: wondering if apport is not messing up |
| 12:45.38 | rdieter | no idea(s), sorry. I'd recomment asking your distro channel though |
| 12:45.44 | rdieter | recommend even |
| 12:45.48 | kiorky | rdieter: pff :) |
| 12:46.28 | kiorky | rdieter: from a locked session |
| 12:46.43 | kiorky | rdieter: is there something i can do to debug what is locking the inputs. |
| 12:46.43 | rdieter | the symptoms are still generally at X/input layer as the primary suspects here (not kde), imo |
| 12:47.11 | kiorky | eg: now the session on the laptop is locked |
| 12:47.15 | kiorky | i can only move the mouse |
| 12:47.17 | kiorky | and go to tty |
| 12:47.34 | kiorky | rdieter: i still have a shell access to debug what you want to know. |
| 12:47.46 | rdieter | I don't know, sorry |
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| 12:57.29 | kiorky | rdieter: really, i dont think it is a non kde related problem... |
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| 12:57.40 | kiorky | other X dm are just working as expected. |
| 12:58.04 | rdieter | those other ones you mentioned aren't using compositing/desktop-effects either |
| 12:58.26 | kiorky | rdieter: disabling compositing might solve it ? |
| 12:59.18 | rdieter | possible, disabling compositing sometimes results in a more stable experience for systems with drivers that don't handle it well |
| 13:00.19 | kiorky | rdieter: well it's an intel gpu ... |
| 13:00.29 | kiorky | so nothing spectaculary exotic. |
| 13:00.40 | rdieter | CNTL-SHIFt-F12 shortcut for toggling compositing, otherwise it's in systemsettings5->display&monitor->compositor |
| 13:01.37 | rdieter | sorry, I think it's ALT-SHIFT-F12 actualy |
| 13:02.00 | kiorky | rdieter: ive gone to it via system |
| 13:02.16 | at0m|c | alt-shift-f12 does the transparency, maybe compositing is included |
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| 13:02.28 | at0m|c | or vice versa |
| 13:02.30 | rdieter | yes, transparency is implemented via compositing |
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| 13:03.25 | kiorky | rdieter: waiting 3 minutes to see if it locks up |
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| 13:04.39 | at0m|c | kiorky: any powers saving settings that point to x minutes? |
| 13:05.42 | at0m|c | ok you're waiting :D |
| 13:05.59 | kiorky | at0m|c: well, it worked just fine until recently |
| 13:06.08 | kiorky | so it may be an upgrade |
| 13:06.13 | kiorky | kernel related ? |
| 13:06.42 | kiorky | i just tested to reboot under the two versions under kernel, but problem is still there so i doubt of that |
| 13:06.53 | kiorky | for the moment, with compositing totally disabled |
| 13:06.56 | kiorky | it dosnt lock anymore |
| 13:07.15 | at0m|c | ok |
| 13:07.28 | at0m|c | got a problem too.. when logging in to kdm, selecting kde workspace, the desktop only shows an xterm and default background. right-clicking the desktop shows no menu to add panels or widgets. what is wrong here, how do i get kde workspace? when i select fluxbox, the same xterm and default kde background are shown. tried to mv .kde .kde.only.xterm but the result remains the same. |
| 13:07.59 | kiorky | at0m|c: ~/.config mess ? |
| 13:09.39 | at0m|c | nothing obvious in update-alternatives --get-selections |
| 13:09.54 | at0m|c | moving .config aside |
| 13:11.02 | at0m|c | nope |
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| 13:35.25 | ntz | hello |
| 13:35.46 | kiorky | rdieter: so im now testing with compositing / opengl3 |
| 13:35.51 | kiorky | rdieter: default was opengl2 |
| 13:35.57 | kiorky | rdieter: no lock without compositing |
| 13:36.04 | kiorky | reproducible. |
| 13:36.08 | ntz | I have onbe problem right now .... alt+f2 dropdown menu just freezed (for a first time as far as I remember) .... what's the name of that app ? |
| 13:36.16 | ntz | it's hanging here totally unresponsive |
| 13:38.52 | at0m|c | ntz: krunner |
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| 13:39.34 | ntz | at0m|c: will pkill krunner sink whole KDE session or so please ? |
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| 13:39.44 | at0m|c | it will not |
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| 13:39.53 | kiorky | rdieter: at0m|c so with opengl3, seems it doesnt lock up |
| 13:40.03 | kiorky | waiting a bit more again |
| 13:40.26 | at0m|c | kiorky: fingers crossed, and glad you seemed to have found a solution/workaround |
| 13:40.38 | at0m|c | *seem |
| 13:40.46 | ntz | thanks .... pkilled and re-run it .... everything seems fine |
| 13:41.03 | ntz | however it's ugly that it has frozen right now and **never before |
| 13:41.05 | ntz | scary |
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| 14:16.10 | azlev | Hi. I need some help with kscreen. I'm getting segfaults on it and I tried to disable it on kded5rc, but now I just have the background and the mouse. How can I solve this or how can I re-enable kscreen? |
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| 14:20.45 | sjattah_ | anyone who is using kde 5 (that is not idling) |
| 14:20.47 | sjattah_ | ? |
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| 14:24.09 | Sho_ | sjattah_: yes |
| 14:25.24 | sjattah_ | ah... good. it seems like it doesn't work anymore to drag and drop icons to the desktop |
| 14:25.45 | sjattah_ | in kde 4.X that would create a desktop shortcut |
| 14:25.49 | Sho_ | version? which containment? |
| 14:26.36 | sjattah_ | kde 5.10.0. if you mean distro, that would be fedora 22 |
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| 14:27.07 | Sho_ | sjattah_: Plasma 5.2 or 5.3? And are you using Desktop or Folder View as desktop layout (containment)? |
| 14:27.21 | sjattah_ | also after setting prefered language to english parts of the text in the system configuration is still in norwegian |
| 14:28.14 | sjattah_ | desktop |
| 14:30.34 | sjattah_ | Desktop behaves as expected, it displays a directory. In kde 4.X I had a desktop widget, and probably 'desktop' view. I was able to add desktop shortcuts |
| 14:30.48 | sjattah_ | sorry.. directory widget |
| 14:31.03 | sjattah_ | 'folder view' |
| 14:32.42 | Sho_ | sjattah_: Dropping a file on Folder View should result in the usual Copy Here/Move Here/Link Here popup |
| 14:33.29 | Sho_ | http://wstaw.org/m/2015/06/10/drop.png |
| 14:33.36 | sjattah_ | I guess so. But it seems like 4.x and 5.x are different. |
| 14:34.28 | sjattah_ | When I change to 'folder view', I get the same directory I have in the folder view widget ('old desktop'). |
| 14:34.59 | sjattah_ | In 4.x I was able to create shortcuts, and I did not see the contents of that directory |
| 14:36.23 | Sho_ | sjattah_: when you drop a file onto the Desktop containment you should get a popup with widgets for the file type you can spawn, including "Icon" |
| 14:36.40 | Sho_ | sjattah_: However, that was possibly broken in 5.3.0 and 5.3.1 and got fixed earlier today |
| 14:36.46 | Sho_ | that's why i asked about your version |
| 14:37.11 | sjattah_ | ok |
| 14:38.01 | sjattah_ | fixed today. ok. I guess I will get an update soon |
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| 14:38.55 | Sho_ | http://wstaw.org/m/2015/06/10/drop2.png |
| 14:39.02 | Sho_ | well, fixed today doesn't mean released today |
| 14:39.15 | sjattah_ | guess not. |
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| 14:39.48 | sjattah_ | a panel shortcut is supposed to be removed when you try to drag it away from the panel? |
| 14:39.58 | sjattah_ | because that doesn't work either |
| 14:40.27 | sjattah_ | i'm only able to change the icon settings if I right click on it |
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| 14:41.36 | sjattah_ | are you a developer? |
| 14:41.46 | sjattah_ | (just curious) |
| 14:42.16 | Sho_ | sjattah_: yes @ dev |
| 14:42.23 | Sho_ | (I wrote Folder View among other things) |
| 14:42.57 | sjattah_ | ah |
| 14:43.09 | Sho_ | sjattah_: the dragging away likely only works in panel configuration mode |
| 14:43.18 | sjattah_ | right |
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| 14:47.21 | sjattah_ | Sho_, : the 'junior jobs' are supposed to be relatively 'easy'? |
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| 14:49.34 | rdieter | yes |
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| 14:49.57 | sjattah_ | maybe I should consider contributing |
| 14:52.45 | Sho_ | sjattah_: yup the idea is that they're supposed to be in reach of someone new to kde dev + devs are willing to help |
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| 15:44.07 | xelra | I'm having a minor graphics glitch with SDDM. When I enter my password, the dots are out of place and/or way too big. Like this: http://pasteboard.co/17yGKjil.png |
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| 15:59.33 | ShalokShalom | demm: do you have knowledge about PXE ThinClients |
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| 16:03.22 | ali_akcza | hi, how remove bookmark from start menu/app run? |
| 16:03.38 | ali_akcza | (plasma) |
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| 16:05.14 | rindolf | ali_akcza: right-click? |
| 16:05.44 | ali_akcza | rindolf: thanks :) |
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| 16:06.00 | rindolf | ali_akcza: you're welcome . |
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| 16:09.10 | ali_akcza | rindolf: glx or egl? who is better? |
| 16:09.31 | rindolf | ali_akcza: no idea. |
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| 16:32.46 | SysGhost | egl is short for "Embedded Graphics Library", and is designed for mobile platforms. Has a reduced OpenGl instruction set fit for resource-limited platforms if I don't remember it completely wrong. GLX is an older standard fit fot the X environment, and include full OpenGl instruction set. Practical difference in a typical DE?... I don't really know. |
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| 16:35.25 | rindolf | SysGhost: thanks for the insights. ali_akcza : see what he said |
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| 16:38.39 | ali_akcza | SysGhost: ok, thanks :) |
| 16:39.00 | ali_akcza | change to egl, i use on i5 4gen |
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| 16:48.47 | ali_akcza | and how set shortcut in konsola to change tabs? |
| 16:49.23 | ali_akcza | what is default? |
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| 16:58.02 | cb400f | ali_akcza: shift + arrow left/right |
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| 17:01.01 | ali_akcza | cb400f: thanks |
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| 17:59.24 | SysGhost | any recommendations of a file manager that *can* handle mtp devices, such as Android, stable without crashing? (Dolphin and kio_mtp keeps crashing/freezing during file transfers) |
| 18:00.53 | SysGhost | my logs are filled to the brim with "usbfs: process 13786 (kio_mtp) did not claim interface 0 before use" if I use Dolphin. Process ID varies though. |
| 18:01.13 | tmtvl | I think Thunar might have mtp support, but I forget the requirements, I haven't used in a long time. |
| 18:01.47 | SysGhost | tmtvl: Righh I'll try it right away. Thanks. I suspect you're right. |
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| 18:02.41 | tmtvl | You're welcome, be sure to file a bug report about the kio_mtp failing, it'd be nice to get fixed. |
| 18:04.26 | SysGhost | tmtvl: Will do as soon as I get some more useful debug information out of it. I've heard that the whole mtp business in Linux is quite unstable. |
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| 18:05.27 | tmtvl | It didn't work out of the box for me first time I tried, so I just used SSHFS to access my smartphone ever since. |
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| 18:07.32 | SysGhost | I miss the UMS mode in Android. That was rock-solid... but some nutjob thought it was a great idea to remove it completely. |
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| 18:08.16 | tmtvl | Well, good thing I'm using an Ubuntu Phone, I guess. |
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| 18:09.30 | hussam | SysGhost: that got removed with kitkat if I remember correctly. |
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| 18:11.25 | SysGhost | hussam: Yep. I had mixed feelings about it. Good thing to make the file transfers of Android filesystem indepedent, but they could at least have kept the UMS option as an option at least. |
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| 18:14.30 | hussam | SysGhost: is your phone rooted? |
| 18:14.47 | SysGhost | Yep. First thing I do with any device that lands in my hands ;) |
| 18:15.17 | hussam | you could edit /system/build.prop and set persist.sys.usb.config=mass_storage,adb |
| 18:15.23 | SysGhost | Thunar + gvfs_mtp did a great job. Stable enough to transfer what I needed. |
| 18:16.04 | SysGhost | hussam: Great tip. I'll look into it. |
| 18:16.32 | hussam | just backup the file first. |
| 18:16.56 | SysGhost | hussam: Of course. I've had plenty of edits in it before. =) |
| 18:17.22 | hussam | :) |
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| 18:53.01 | reactormonk | How do I track memory leaks in plasma-desktop? It's at 3GB |
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| 19:19.11 | morice-net | hey, I'm trying to build framework with the david script kdesrc-build and I have an error on kwin... it can't find "plasmashell_interface.h" of kwayland, and this file doesn't exist, where should it come from ? because even in sources it doesn't exist. Can someone help me ? |
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| 19:32.45 | Asix3 | hello, I'm running fedora kde5 and just installed numix icon theme, but both circle and regular seem incomplete |
| 19:32.57 | Asix3 | it's a popular icon set so I thought I'd ask about it here |
| 19:33.07 | Asix3 | is there a way to set individual icons? |
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| 20:05.14 | Kelsar | I got a annoying problem menus and things like kmixer open on the wrong screen, some idea why? |
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| 20:07.29 | tmtvl | Did you check the multihead settings are still good? Seperate screen focus, and focus following mouse and so... |
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| 20:20.33 | chx | hello. i have a bluedevil bug to report. i am at https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided and do not know how to continue |
| 20:21.07 | chx | every time i undock bluedevil crashes, i have the backtrace |
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| 20:25.12 | chx | oh |
| 20:25.13 | chx | i am blind |
| 20:25.15 | chx | nevermind! |
| 20:26.00 | chx | i cant even report 4.x bugs anymore? |
| 20:26.01 | chx | wow |
| 20:26.09 | chx | well then |
| 20:26.15 | chx | how do i switch to kde5 |
| 20:27.07 | tmtvl | Er, what distro you running? |
| 20:27.09 | chx | arch |
| 20:27.34 | tmtvl | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Plasma |
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| 20:54.11 | Kelsar | tmtvl: looks fine for me, but i had to disable kscreen beacuse of DP issues |
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| 20:54.54 | tmtvl | Then how do you manage the displays, XRandR? |
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| 21:01.04 | Kelsar | tmtvl: xorg.conf.d |
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| 21:04.09 | chx | that worked after deleting .Xauthority |
| 21:04.19 | chx | just a note for the next bloke :) |
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| 21:30.48 | chx | so i went kde5 and now i have a little stylized red guy which is "instant messaging" in my sytem tray and i cant find the quit button? |
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| 21:32.57 | chx | yay found it |
| 21:34.09 | chx | how can i find what was my konsole font in kde4? the kde5 font is unreadable :( |
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| 21:34.39 | asterismo | hi people |
| 21:34.57 | asterismo | i'm experiencing strange issued with vnc and KRDC |
| 21:35.22 | asterismo | it's like the keyboard is not mapped correctly through vnc using KRDC |
| 21:35.25 | asterismo | is this possible? |
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| 22:38.01 | at0m|c | hi, when logging in to kdm, selecting kde, the desktop only shows an xterm and default background. right-clicking the desktop shows no menu to add panels or widgets. when i select fluxbox, the same xterm and default kde background are shown. tried to mv .kde .kde.only.xterm but the result remains the same. what is wrong here, how do i get kde workspace? |
| 22:41.46 | rdieter | at0m|c: that sounds like the special kde (failsafe) session type, you sure you didn't select that? |
| 22:42.44 | Simotek-Work | or is your .desktop file wrong? |
| 22:42.56 | rdieter | you may want to ask your distro support channel, your xsession files may be wrong too |
| 22:42.57 | Simotek-Work | i'll find the location in a second |
| 22:43.19 | rdieter | one common place is /usr/share/xsessions |
| 22:43.31 | rdieter | but kdm can use stuff from it's own config dir too |
| 22:43.48 | Simotek-Work | I always forget that directory |
| 22:44.18 | rdieter | controlled by SessionsDirs= key in kdmrc |
| 22:44.26 | at0m|c | rdieter: thanks, checking. |
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| 23:18.23 | zenfox | hello |
| 23:18.25 | zenfox | i'm getting "Cannot mix incompatible Qt library " during Dropbox installation |
| 23:18.49 | zenfox | was anyone able to resolve this problem on kde5 / plasma5 |
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