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03:20.52WhitePelicanI'm on xubuntu 15.04. There used to be a package called kde-full. It's gone now. can someone help?
03:22.07WhitePelicanI would like to install kde but not the kubuntu desktop
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03:30.42WhitePelicanwhat replaced kde-full on 15.04?
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03:39.43rdieterWhitePelican: that's a distro-specific packaging question.  I'd suggest asking #kubuntu
03:40.14WhitePelicaneven though I'm running xubuntu?
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03:47.05thiagoWhitePelican: then ask in #xubuntu, but my guess is they'll redirect you to #kubuntu or #ubuntu
03:47.09thiagoit's the same distro, after all
03:47.20thiagoit's like Fedora KDE Spin. It's still Fedora.
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03:59.55Guest41956KF5 runs correctly from a console using startx but sddm returns the error that it can't start dbus.  qdbus returns that it failed to connect  to socket /tmp/...  What is wrong with it ?
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04:18.20Guest41956qt is installed into /opt/qt5, kf5 into /opt/kf5 and sddm into /usr, this may be important
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04:27.45chronosschello :). There is some way to configure kde notification in systray to actually show the notification as pop up
04:28.07chronossccurrently it show the number of notification growing but not show the notification itself
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06:25.34Euryalehow do I keep kmix from fiddling with my capture volume? The stupid thing keeps turning the volume of my microphone so low the person in my video chat can't hear me!
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08:22.44lordievaderGood morning.
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09:39.50howlymowlyhi everyone.. short question:  I have a litle problem with some applications which recognize mousecliks only with a little offset..  I don't really have an idea what GUI framework is casuing this.  but when I set up a fresh KDE desktop the problem is done.. appliations that are affected are for example:   git gui, and the plot window from matplotlib
09:40.02james0rjust installed spotify beta and noticing that the kde media player applet doesn't listen for this service, is there a way to add spotify beta so that it triggers the media player applet?
09:40.06howlymowlyany idea what to do about this?  I don't want to reset my desktop environment ;)
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10:31.33BluesKajHey folks
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13:01.06Guest262KF5 runs correctly from a console using startx but sddm returns the error that it can't start dbus.  qdbus returns that it failed to connect  to socket /tmp/...  What is wrong with it ? qt is installed into /opt/qt5, kf5 into /opt/kf5 and sddm into /usr, this may be important.
13:05.34rdieterGuest262: check/verify the xsession .desktop file
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13:10.11Guest262I tried to modify this file with some values to start kf5 but it did not change anything.
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13:23.21rdieterGuest262: clearly there's something different between what it is doing and your own .xinit (ie, startx)
13:23.30rdieteryou need to find what that difference is
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13:24.35supHi
13:25.43inkbottleHi, for some mails, Kmails tells me "You need HTML support to view this message."; I haven't found a way to view the content save selecting "view sources". Otherwise the mail appears empty
13:26.03Guest92254If i run a plasmoid on the plasma desktop, will it keep running when i exit to the default desktop?
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13:28.29Guest262kf5 is executed with "exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session startkde" in .xinitrc and in the desktop there is a line Exec=/opt/kf5/bin/startkde, is there a way I did not think of for executing dbus-launch from the Exec command in the desktop file
13:30.30rdieterGuest262: startkde should include dbus-launch too
13:31.37rdieterGuest262: or you can modify Exec= to be the same as your .xinitrc
13:32.37chronosschello :). There is some way to configure kde notification in systray to actually show the notification as pop up
13:32.38chronossccurrently it show the number of notification growing but not show the notification itself
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13:42.32Guest92254guys?
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13:43.23Guest92254just want to know if redshift will work outside of plasma desktop if i boot it there.
13:43.34Guest92254it's a plasmoid.
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14:18.38soze_hello people, when I installed xfce, my kde started to use xfce's notification app, how can I revert it back to its normal?
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16:16.09infandumI have a hidpi screen and I use plasma 5. When I open a GTK application, it does not appear to use hidpi. However, when I log into Gnome they appear hidpi. How can I have gtk applications respect hidpi under kde?
16:21.27thiagoinfandum: how do you make them respect hidpi outside of KDE?
16:22.05infandumthiago: No idea. I thought it was with the gnomesettings or whatever CLI command, but that didn't do anything
16:22.21infandumthiago: Oh, outside of KDE? In gnome it automatically does it
16:22.30infandumI don't know otherwise
16:22.36thiagoso the question is what gnome is doing
16:22.42infandummagic
16:22.43thiagopeople in #kde are unlikely to know
16:22.44infandumhaha
16:22.50infandumok, good point
16:22.53thiagotry asking in a GNOME channel to see if they know
16:23.01thiagoI think it's an environment variable
16:23.08infandumhmm, I'll ask them
16:23.16thiagohint: GNOME IRC is not Freenode. You need to find their network.
16:23.48infandumah
16:23.54infandumthey have an unofficial one though
16:24.09thiagook
16:24.13thiagodidn't know that
16:24.21infandumI wonder why they don't use freenode
16:24.47infandumoh, because they own their own
16:24.49infandumhaha
16:24.55infandumweird
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17:12.47DjMadnesshi, is there someone here that knows if its possible to get smooth transitions with kdm and plymouth ? or would i need to use another login manager ?
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17:14.13BluesKajDjMadness, what's your OS?
17:14.28DjMadnessBluesKaj: linux with gentoo as distribution
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17:15.53BluesKajgentoo hasn't adopted systemd I reckon and probly not lightdm either ?
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17:17.13DjMadnessgentoo has adopted systemd, but i'm staying away from that (a mess to change between them), lightdm is a solution, but some google results say that there is no smooth transitions between plymouth and lightdm
17:20.08BluesKajDjMadness, well I don't run gentoo but older kubuntus don't have that problem anymore ...there was a problem at one time but that's been patched
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17:22.18drawkwardI keep getting an error ASSERT failure in QList<T>::at: "index out of range".
17:22.22drawkwardWhat could be causing this?
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17:24.00BluesKajdrawkward,what command or app are you running when the error occurs?
17:24.34drawkwardBluesKaj: I am doing my GSoC project with kstars
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17:25.26drawkwardBluesKaj: and I am able to compile kstars successfully. but when I run kstars off the command line, it says core dumbped and ASSERT failure in QList<T>::at: "index out of range"
17:25.39shevycould someone have a look at the compile error I have for kdelibs https://goo.gl/35Fcd6  - the error is "[ 16%] Generating ndo.h, ndo.cpp Could not find parser plugin for encoding trig" and I am unsure what this error means
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17:26.33BluesKajdrawkward, that's beyond my experience , none with kstars
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17:28.50tootheanyone here gotten Empathy working with Gtalk?
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17:41.57shevyI seem to have solved it by using other options to cmake
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17:49.39Kajikahello everyone, I have a probleme with my new debian on kde : i have no wifi controller by default (???)... I'll prolly never understand. Also i have difficulties to install package from a deb file : apt install [filename] -> doesn't find the package
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17:51.05toskyKajika: those are questions more related to the distribution, so I would ask on the debian channels on OFTC network; for apt, which package (not file) can't be installed?
17:51.45Kajikano i installed debian from a cd so it lacks lots of things it seems (i did it like 2 weeks ago).
17:52.22toskyif it didn't have internet during installation, it does not have the remote repositories
17:52.29Kajikaalso the debian/KDE is so hard to get...
17:53.34Kajikaindeed, it's probably an issue, in all cases during installation it refuses to connect to my 'box'. I find sad that it didn't list the SSID so i could have an ID about if it was working or not...
17:53.59toothegah! why won't empathy work with Gmail!!!
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17:54.53toskyhard to get?
17:55.04toskythere is a specialized installation CD
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17:57.25Kajikaoh i didn't know about such a CD...
17:57.28Kajikalooking for it
17:58.36KajikaI think it's what I install my distribution from...
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18:17.16tootheit seems like this problem is well-documented
18:17.17toothebut
18:17.20toothei can't seem to find a solution
18:17.22tootheand its not a new problem.
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21:01.46acz32can gwenview or digikam resize multiple images? in gwenview i can only resize one at a time which is too slow
21:01.55acz32is there another tool that can do this?
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21:06.10nemysisi use gimp to change images
21:07.11acz32batch or one by one?
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21:10.21nemysisone by one
21:11.31acz32ok.. that doesn't answer my question then
21:11.44acz32i'm looking for a batch resize tool for kde
21:12.06acz32i'm surprised digikam can't do that
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21:14.10gntechgwenview does batch operations
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21:15.32acz32batch resize?
21:16.40acz32mine doesn't. the resize button is greyed out if i have more than one picture selected
21:17.17gntechYes, take a look at "Plugins/Batch Processing/Resize images..."
21:18.10gntechYou select the images first in Browse-mode and then run the plugin
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21:18.25acz32my plugins menu says no plugins found
21:18.52gntechokay, what distro are you running?
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21:19.18acz32debian
21:19.34acz32maybe a package i need to install to get them?
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21:22.17acz32these packages show up when i search for gwenview https://paste.debian.net/257487/
21:22.32gntechyes, install the package kipi-plugins
21:23.26gntech"KIPI plugins (KDE Image Plugin Interface) is an effort to develop a common plugin structure for Digikam, KPhotoAlbum (formerly known as KimDaBa), Showimg and Gwenview. Its aim is to share image plugins among graphic applications."
21:24.04acz32ok, nice
21:24.19acz32so it will work for digikam too
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21:25.42gntechyes :)
21:26.33acz32thank you
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21:27.57gntechno problems, glad i could help out
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22:41.24tormenHi. Is there any way to use the Mode_Switch (and Shift+Mode_Switch) keycodes for keyboard shortcuts in KDE ?? ... All my efforts so far always ended with this : The moment I press the Mode_switch key in the KDE systemsettings while it listens for a new keyboard (shortcut) : I see strange characters ... and it does not work :( ... I am slowly out of ideas. My goal : I am using the us altgr-intl keyboard layout and would like to use the 3. and
22:43.20tormenI don't get it, because in a terminal it works (and I see the assigned keysym)... but I can't use Mode_switch within keyboard shortcuts. Why not ?
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23:02.58tormenI am testing with a keycode 67 = 1 2 3 4 5 6. I can access via the "3rd-level" shortcut "5" and "6", and I can access "3" and "4" with the Mode_switch key.
23:03.33tormenActually : I can't seem to be able to use neither 3, 4, 5, 6 in KDE keyboard shortcuts. Is that a bug or a feature ?
23:03.52tormenIs there maybe a setting to change this behaviour ?
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23:22.24boombatoweranyone familiar with plasma 5 crazy long login time? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShJAz7nlOQA is this a known issue or should I report it?
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23:26.23rdieterboombatower: see if reducing to a single screen makes any significant difference (Qt 5.5 will be including some optimizations in that area)
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23:29.47boombatowerseems like a rather nasty regression
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23:34.11DattorzFaster than the startup times I'm getting
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23:35.17boombatowerrdieter: tried a number of single-screen configurations and all were about the same to load in
23:35.32boombatoweralso note that switching screen configs in the kde settings manager is also insainly slow
23:35.41boombatower4.x was great
23:37.21boombatowerdefinitely seems relation to changing screen output settings
23:37.25boombatowersince it has to do that on login
23:37.47boombatowerdo the developers not use multiple monitors?
23:38.06DattorzI have slow startup on single screen
23:38.17DattorzEven with a warm start (on a traditional hard disk)
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23:38.36rdieterboombatower: that's the part I was talking about, Qt 5.5 should improve that (a lot)
23:38.53rdieterthe changing screen output settings in particular
23:38.54boombatowerok, so should I bother reporting or just wait and see how 5.5 does?
23:39.08rdieterboombatower: don't bother now, wait at least for 5.5 and re-test
23:39.13rdieterit's known
23:39.26DattorzExcessive amount of disk I/O, lots of skipped frames, Plasma panel and desktop are half-presented before they're even ready (black desktop, panel layout is glitched for several seconds, not acceptable)
23:39.26boombatowerok
23:40.08boombatoweryea, it seems a bit odd that qt would replace screen code and release with code that is this bad
23:40.10DattorzWilling to wait until a future version but it's frustrating to put up with
23:40.29DattorzI really don't think it has anything to do with screen config
23:40.44boombatowerhmm
23:40.45rdieterDattorz: in your case, no
23:40.56rdieterthere's certainly lots of optimizations that still can be done
23:41.13DattorzPossibly related to very slow plasma-desktop startup times (starting it when in an existing session I have to wait like 15-20 seconds usually)
23:41.35DattorzAlso plasma-desktop thrashes disk I/O when I reorder the icons on my panel (Icons-Only Task Manager)
23:42.24DattorzWhen this happens, dragging becomes unresponsive for several seconds
23:42.58DattorzIt's like it's trying to commit the config to disk every millisecond or something
23:43.19boombatoweryikes
23:43.31rdieterthat's sounds... bad alright.  still that bad/slow without icons-only taskman ?
23:44.13DattorzI... kinda need Icons-only Task Manager
23:44.28DattorzIf I delete it I lost my icon order
23:44.34Dattorzs/lost/lose/
23:45.08rdieterok, I was just curious what impact on your slow startup time it may have, if any
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23:49.54DattorzEasy/reliable way to backup Plasma config?
23:54.36rdieterDattorz: copy/backup ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
23:56.10DattorzHmm, warm start only took like six or seven seconds that time
23:56.26DattorzThat's with the Icons-only Task Manager still there BTW

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