| 00:01.56 | Trel | It looks like Fedora is on Plasma 5, I'll grab the live CD of that to see if it happens there too |
| 00:02.00 | Trel | but gotta run for a bit first |
| 00:03.03 | nfk | meh, i feel old - i used to be able to list top 10 or even 15 almost from the top of my head and nowadays i barely known half of distros above gentoo |
| 00:03.19 | nfk | and by know i mean "kali is for security something" |
| 00:04.01 | nfk | Trel, two things, first, no properietary stuff, that includes pretty much all useful audio and video decoders so no youtube for you |
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| 00:05.08 | nfk | secondly, they're strongly pro GNOME an poettering so i' not be surprised if they were againt taking potshots at kde and delivering crippled experience |
| 00:05.38 | nfk | thirdly, used by both nsa and fsb on their lower end terminals so it's always a fun mindgame if they have or have not rigged it with something |
| 00:06.07 | nfk | wait, that's three things but the last one is kinda fun |
| 00:06.33 | nfk | *and ... *i'd |
| 00:07.26 | nfk | Trel, or you could use tails (not sure, kde/xfce?) and instantly get on some nsa people to spy on list |
| 00:08.35 | nfk | but don't fret too much, if not connecting to irc then being in a populated channel like this is probably enough to get on that list along with the family members of your friends and more |
| 00:16.05 | nfk | Trel, alright , enough with the jokes, the distro supported by blue systems is netrunner which has a rolling version based on manjaor and should have plasma 5 (but not the non-rolling version based on kubuntu, weirdly); the other option might be manjaro itself which is based on arch linux and also seems to have plasma 5 |
| 00:17.05 | nfk | in fact, manjaro seems to be more bleedig edge |
| 00:17.23 | nfk | but i have not ever used it so i can't comment on how it compares to kubuntu |
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| 00:20.50 | Kelsar | OpenSuse tumbleweed is a nice binary rolling release and even more bleeding edge then gentoo |
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| 00:52.25 | Trel | 'nfk, were you referring to fedora with the no proprietary stuff bit? |
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| 01:08.01 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.3 and KDE Applications 15.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
| 01:08.57 | Trel | nfk for the purposes of testing, I'm going to look at one of the live images here: https://community.kde.org/Plasma/LiveImages |
| 01:10.31 | rdieter | Trel: for the panel-not-changing color bug you noticed, was when trying to use breeze dark? if so, it was a bug fixed in kf5-5.10 (I think) |
| 01:11.09 | Trel | rdieter: yes it was in breeze dark. With oxygen, it looked like it went 100% transparent |
| 01:11.10 | rdieter | nvm, was fixed after 5.10, so included in 5.11 |
| 01:11.31 | rdieter | Trel: http://bugs.kde.org/347143 |
| 01:11.31 | Trel | But which would kubuntu push |
| 01:15.07 | Trel | Ok, yeah, I'm gonna reload up kubuntu and see which version of KDE it pushes when I fully update it. Is there a quick way to check KDE versions? |
| 01:17.34 | rdieter | Trel: be mindful, that there's independant releases of kde frameworks, and plasma. in this case, the fix was in kde frameworks 5.11 |
| 01:18.16 | rdieter | Trel: kf5-config --version , should give that |
| 01:18.17 | Trel | rdieter: I clean installed kubuntu this afternoon. I'm just going to do a full update of everything and check versions and see if the issue is siill there |
| 01:19.40 | Trel | Lastest Kubuntu comes with: Frameworks 5.9.0 |
| 01:19.46 | Trel | without any updates |
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| 01:22.48 | zorrot | (debian/jesse) -- kde won't remember dual monitor settings (after reboot, signal goes to only one monitor until system settings are again opened and adjusted) -- this happens every time there's a reboot / shutdown. |
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| 01:29.29 | james0r | noticing a lot of crashing going on with wobbly windows enabled. |
| 01:30.35 | zorrot | james0r: what drivers / card ? |
| 01:31.04 | james0r | Graphics: Card Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller bus-ID 00:02.0 chip-ID 8086:0166 |
| 01:31.05 | james0r | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.05 | james0r | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.55 | james0r | zonite, ^ |
| 01:32.04 | zorrot | tjat |
| 01:32.22 | zorrot | that's almost the same config i'm running here, strangely enuogh |
| 01:32.43 | zorrot | crashing means -- the whole box, or just the x server, or ? |
| 01:33.37 | james0r | zorrot, sorry. i mean to say plasma shell is crashing |
| 01:33.52 | james0r | the desktop automatically reloads on crash |
| 01:33.53 | zorrot | what's the system? debian? ubuntu? freebsd? |
| 01:33.59 | zorrot | ja, familiar :-) |
| 01:34.02 | james0r | zorrot, on Arch Stable |
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| 01:34.28 | zorrot | but without wobbly windows, everything is happy, or it still crashes, but less often ? |
| 01:35.36 | james0r | zorrot, without wobbly windows my only crash is a kwin crash on logout/restart |
| 01:36.10 | james0r | would it be helpful if i screencap the crash dialog? |
| 01:36.18 | zorrot | only if it has specific information |
| 01:36.33 | zorrot | kwin crashes each time you log out / restart ? |
| 01:36.34 | james0r | i think it said plasma shell something something segfault |
| 01:37.00 | james0r | zorrot, yeah unless a recent upgrade has fixed it |
| 01:37.07 | james0r | i'll give it a quick try |
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| 01:40.03 | zorrot | james0r: same? |
| 01:40.10 | james0r | zorrot, can't reproduce the logout crash. so that's good |
| 01:40.18 | zorrot | try wobbly windows ? |
| 01:40.22 | james0r | k |
| 01:41.01 | zorrot | btw, might have a look at (cli:) qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin org.kde.KWin.supportInformation |
| 01:42.33 | james0r | zorrot, i'm somewhat newbish to KDE. copy paste that into cli? |
| 01:42.50 | zorrot | if it's giving you trouble on logout, yes |
| 01:42.58 | zorrot | if not, probably not important at the moment :-) |
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| 01:44.06 | zorrot | james0r: the question, i suppose, is how much time you want to spend researching... |
| 01:44.17 | zorrot | james0r: you may find it easier to do something like this: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=212&t=98156 |
| 01:45.08 | james0r | zorrot, right right. wobbly windows aren't too critical so maybe i'll bookmark and save for a rainy day |
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| 01:45.19 | james0r | zorrot, thanks for your help though |
| 01:45.21 | zorrot | james0r: it _should_ work -- |
| 01:45.29 | zorrot | james0r: so you do have a legit problem |
| 01:45.37 | zorrot | (i'm also a fan of wobbly windows, i'd be annoyed if they didn't work.) |
| 01:46.05 | zorrot | that last url contains instructions that may well work for you the next time you're bored and have 20 minutes to kill :-) |
| 01:46.07 | james0r | zorrot, yeah plasma5 is still new so i chalk stuff up to that. i will try debugging though. |
| 01:46.16 | zorrot | it works for everyone else :-) |
| 01:46.17 | james0r | zorrot, yeah exactly. will do |
| 01:46.28 | zorrot | my problem at the moment is that kde won't remember my dual monitor config between reboots. |
| 01:46.38 | zorrot | it works -- it just... doesn't work past reboot. |
| 01:46.50 | zorrot | not a critical problem, but horribly annoying -- as is anything that should work but isn't. :-) |
| 01:46.53 | james0r | zorrot, i didn't know dual monitor was even supported yet. what release did that come with? |
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| 01:47.02 | zorrot | it's been around a while :-) |
| 01:47.08 | Trel | rdieter: it looks like after updating everything Framework in Kubuntu is still 5.9.0 |
| 01:47.11 | james0r | last i checked was 5.3 |
| 01:47.17 | zorrot | i'm using debian jesse, but it worked under wheezy, which was pretty old. |
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| 01:52.44 | nfk | offtopic: rakuen tsuihou is just slightly underrated - it's not great but still decently and kina goodish |
| 01:52.59 | nfk | *decent |
| 01:54.22 | zorrot | Off-topic? In #kde? RELEASE THE HOUNDS! |
| 01:55.19 | nfk | at least not gnomes |
| 01:55.21 | Trel | nfk I don't know if you saw, but my issue was a known one :( |
| 01:55.30 | nfk | great |
| 01:55.37 | nfk | but why only you? |
| 01:55.49 | Trel | Because I'm using the stable kubuntu release, not the alpha |
| 01:55.58 | nfk | i changed plasma style like 10 times in the past 4 days |
| 01:56.07 | nfk | stable? |
| 01:56.14 | Trel | KDE Framework is 5.9.0 in Kubuntu 15.04 |
| 01:56.25 | Trel | It was fixed between 5.10 and 5.11 |
| 01:56.27 | nfk | and alpha being 15.10 alpha? |
| 01:56.31 | Trel | yes |
| 01:56.49 | Trel | I'm downloading the alpha iso now |
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| 01:57.26 | nfk | Trel, it might be better to use another distro |
| 01:57.39 | nfk | alpha is generally alpha quality |
| 01:57.56 | nfk | also gentoo has 5.11 |
| 01:58.12 | nfk | and arch/manjaro is probably around the same version |
| 01:58.20 | Trel | Gentoo is rather different from the environment I know. Arch is an option though. |
| 01:58.22 | nfk | possibly even higher if there's one |
| 02:00.31 | Trel | I may as well give Arch a shot |
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| 02:01.49 | nfk | manjaro might be a better choice, i have never used it but arch is kinda like gentoo except it does not require you to compile most of your software and users there are even more arrogant while knowing even less |
| 02:02.23 | zorrot | tried opensuse? |
| 02:02.24 | nfk | still, nothing like debian/ubuntu tardmins that will try to publically demonstrate something as trivial as chroot and still mess it up :D |
| 02:02.38 | nfk | i strongly dislike opensuse |
| 02:02.41 | james0r | nfk, yep. arch stable is 5.11 |
| 02:02.54 | zorrot | nfk: any particular reason other than rpms/yast? |
| 02:03.21 | nfk | i tried it once or twice but there was something really upsetting/offsetting with it |
| 02:03.29 | nfk | it might have been yast or maybe something else |
| 02:03.41 | Trel | nfk: you do know that kubuntu and ubuntu aren't run by the same people though? |
| 02:03.48 | nfk | i know i removed it from my hdd even faster than ubuntu with gnome 2 and that says a lot |
| 02:03.55 | zorrot | nfk: while it is not my favorite, i've found that it's a good choice for people who want kde + stupid simple. |
| 02:04.03 | zorrot | graphical installer, stuff generally Just Works. |
| 02:04.09 | nfk | Trel, yes, and soon kubuntu might not be run at all |
| 02:04.22 | Trel | zorrot: opensuse doesn't even have a functional download page ATM |
| 02:04.25 | zorrot | the glorious new package manager. |
| 02:04.35 | Trel | nfk: I find that hard to believe |
| 02:04.51 | nfk | zorrot, oh, for starters, licence, the first time i did not even agree to that terrible thing |
| 02:04.56 | nfk | the second time i think i bit the bullet |
| 02:05.14 | nfk | but still did not like what i saw but it was like a year or two ago so i don't remember what exactly i did not like |
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| 02:05.31 | nfk | Trel, it has been like that for years |
| 02:05.38 | zorrot | fair enough. you're not required to justify your preferences, i was just wondering before i recommended it to someone else :-) |
| 02:05.51 | zorrot | anyone have any opinions of Rosa Fresh ? |
| 02:06.12 | nfk | don't watch porn with actresses named that badly |
| 02:06.27 | nfk | in fact, all porn is the same, one will suffice for your lifetime |
| 02:06.29 | zorrot | nfk: so you're saying you don't watch porn. :-) |
| 02:06.43 | Trel | nfk: I mean hard to believe that kubuntu won't be run at all in the future |
| 02:07.20 | nfk | Trel, well, it's just moronix a.k.a. phoronix but apparently ubuntu is pwning kubuntu as well as it can |
| 02:07.23 | zorrot | Trel -- people still run amigaos, windows 3.x and beos in emulators. It definitely has _a_ future. |
| 02:08.06 | nfk | zorrot, i'm pretty sure i used to know someoene who had assembled an modern amiga clone or something from individual parts |
| 02:08.07 | Trel | What exactly is happening that points to this doom? |
| 02:08.16 | zorrot | nfk: highly unlikely. |
| 02:08.30 | zorrot | there are current generation PPC machines - nothing special about them except the branded Amiga with the XMOS chip. |
| 02:08.31 | nfk | Trel, just go and read moronix |
| 02:08.41 | zorrot | original amigas used 3 major (and several minor) custom chips |
| 02:08.57 | zorrot | so any "clone" attempt would be at least partially a recycled amiga. |
| 02:09.19 | nfk | couldn't fpga do it? that guy was into those |
| 02:09.26 | Trel | nfk: I'm not sure what I should be seeing |
| 02:09.26 | zorrot | not at speed. |
| 02:09.40 | zorrot | besides, he'd have to have plans for 3 custom chips that have not been released. |
| 02:09.48 | zorrot | non-trivial, non-off-the-shelf parts. |
| 02:10.04 | zorrot | amiga's video subsystem was entirely unique and peerless. nothing else even remotely likely it, ever. |
| 02:10.20 | nfk | backs away slowly smiling |
| 02:10.43 | zorrot | i'm just saying -- the way it worked -- it didn't have anything resembling video used in any other computer. the same thing that made it so weird is what made it good at broadcast graphics. |
| 02:12.03 | zorrot | if you're curious, you can look up "HAM mode" graphics to see what I mean, i'll spare you the greybeard rap. :-) |
| 02:12.07 | Trel | What is moronix? |
| 02:12.12 | zorrot | Trel: phoronix |
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| 02:15.24 | Trel | Ah ok, I did read that, though, that doesn't seem in any way conclusive |
| 02:15.53 | zorrot | it's conclusive to nfk :-) |
| 02:17.59 | Trel | I got nothing |
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| 02:37.50 | nfk | Trel, there's also comment section (yes, i'm slightly ashamed to admit i read them but i generally don't) and there's a link to kubuntu forums there and well it did not terribly good last week |
| 02:38.02 | nfk | out |
| 02:38.20 | nfk | *did not look terribly |
| 02:38.37 | Trel | I did read that, but from what I gathered, it looked more like a possilbity of a split rather than a discontinuance. |
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| 04:11.57 | Trel | Is it normal for KDE 5 to continuously prompt for kwallet password on every single boot? |
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| 04:12.47 | jasonvw | Do you have a wireless connection with a password? |
| 04:13.19 | Trel | Yep, no way around that? |
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| 04:22.45 | rdieter | Trel: you have options: set kwallet password to be empty/blank (then you won't get prompted), or... set wifi connection as system (aka, "all users may connect to this network") so that NetworkManager handles the secrets instead |
| 04:23.15 | Trel | Is that second option something I can do from the default GUI? |
| 04:23.25 | Trel | Because that is already my intent |
| 04:23.34 | Trel | Only thing I want local to my profile is VPN |
| 04:24.39 | rdieter | Trel: kde5-nm-connection-editor , edit connection, general tab, check box labelled "all users may connect to this network" |
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| 04:26.01 | Trel | Ok, cool |
| 04:26.03 | Trel | Thanks |
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| 07:13.14 | macguy | Hi, is it a good idea to istall Kubuntu on a Mac? Will I face any problems regarding software availability etc? |
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| 07:15.53 | macguy | Also will I face any hardware issues? Something like the webcam not working fine, or any other piece of hardware? |
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| 07:25.10 | markc | I'm aware of QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO=2 but on top of a default system wide DPI of 244 it blows the space around text in menus |
| 07:26.14 | markc | so if I could set some kind of DPI env var back to 96 just for ie; qtcreator then all would be well in my hidpi world |
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| 08:37.51 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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| 08:52.09 | StatelessCat | hey |
| 08:52.45 | StatelessCat | is it still possible to detach a tab of a Konsole windows to another Konsole windows ? In plasma5 it doesnt works anymore :/ |
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| 09:32.04 | ShalokShalom | please vote, if you like to see that feature in krita: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349708 |
| 09:32.16 | ShalokShalom | :) |
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| 11:08.52 | James0r | would these debugging methods still be useful for plasma 5 ? https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=212&t=98156 |
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| 11:46.42 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 11:49.00 | Caterpillar | First Mac crash icon http://www.cnet.com/pictures/susan-kares-early-mac-icons-gave-computers-a-personality-photos/6/ Plasma 5 crash handler icon http://i.imgur.com/5HBZMhe.jpg LOL |
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| 12:02.28 | iH2O | how can I get smaller icons when alternating between konsole terminals with ALT-TAB? I looked here but found nothing relevant: system settings -> desktop effects -> all effects |
| 12:03.44 | iH2O | I just installed KDE |
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| 12:19.24 | iH2O | if it's not possible, please let me know! |
| 12:20.02 | iH2O | it was possible in KDE 4. but I installed KDE 5 and maybe it's not possible anymore? |
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| 12:20.42 | StatelessCat | anyone knows about my question about tabs on konsole ? |
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| 12:20.59 | StatelessCat | "is it still possible to detach a tab of a Konsole windows to another Konsole windows ? In plasma5 it doesnt works anymore :/" |
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| 12:21.49 | StatelessCat | iH2O: you can disable alternatives, but that not what you want, right ? |
| 12:22.26 | iH2O | I'm shown huge icons by default. i want smaller ones |
| 12:22.28 | StatelessCat | iH2O: and you can change the visualisation style of alternatives (for a mac-style cover style for example) |
| 12:22.45 | StatelessCat | ok, i dont know how to specify the size of theses icons, sorry |
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| 12:37.05 | colonolGron | hello |
| 12:37.55 | colonolGron | my biggest issue with kde so far was the uglyness of the icons (to my taste) is it many icons you cannot change via a theme, like you can in gnome? |
| 12:38.51 | Sho_ | colonolGron: all icons can be changed via themes |
| 12:38.57 | Sho_ | but not all themes may include all icons |
| 12:40.51 | colonolGron | in gnome i am using faenza theme and greybird gtk theme, i would like to have something similar in kde. maybe you know about that? |
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| 13:12.09 | colonolGron | well all themes i tried dont change that ugly looking glass thing in the main menu |
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| 15:01.36 | nfk | btw, can i get rid of that annoying Media Player widget in Plasma 5 that has taken replaced Clementine's tray icon like some parasite that it is? |
| 15:01.47 | nfk | -taken |
| 15:02.01 | Sho_ | nfk: Yeah you can |
| 15:02.06 | nfk | great, how? |
| 15:02.11 | Sho_ | uses Cantata as well and disables the media player tray too |
| 15:02.22 | Sho_ | nfk: Go into the System Tray Settings and uncheck it |
| 15:02.22 | nfk | Cantata? |
| 15:02.29 | Sho_ | oh you wrote Clemetine |
| 15:02.38 | Sho_ | sorry, I guess I read what I wanted to read |
| 15:02.39 | nfk | Sho_, did that, it went away but Clementne systray icon did not come back ;( |
| 15:02.56 | Sho_ | maybe it's hidden? go to the entries page and set it to always show |
| 15:03.03 | Sho_ | Cantata is another audio player, which I love dearly |
| 15:03.08 | nfk | i think i tried taht as well but let's try |
| 15:03.12 | Sho_ | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/08/22/cantata.png <3 |
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| 15:04.02 | nfk | my favourite is amarok 1.2 but Clementine might have surpassed it over the years, it certainly was worse at first but at least not Amarok 2.0 |
| 15:04.17 | Sho_ | I don't like Clementine, it has too many rendering bugs in the UI |
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| 15:04.33 | Sho_ | Clementine essentially has most of the functionality of Amarok 2.0 in an interface that's cleaner than Amarok 1.x |
| 15:04.41 | Sho_ | err |
| 15:04.42 | Sho_ | Cantata |
| 15:04.45 | Sho_ | geez, my brain today |
| 15:04.47 | Sho_ | So I'm a happy kamper |
| 15:04.54 | nfk | rendering bugs? |
| 15:04.59 | mefistofeles | but mpd sucks :S |
| 15:05.05 | mefistofeles | let the flamewar begin |
| 15:05.08 | mefistofeles | :P |
| 15:05.13 | Sho_ | mefistofeles: eh, does its job |
| 15:05.23 | nfk | i left mpd for amarok |
| 15:05.30 | nfk | 1.x that is |
| 15:05.38 | Sho_ | nfk: Yeah, Clementine is just carelessly done and has so many little papercut rendering bugs all over the UI |
| 15:05.54 | Sho_ | bad alignments, bad margins, some not-anti-aliased things, clipping problems, ... |
| 15:05.55 | nfk | can't say i have noticed anything terrible |
| 15:06.02 | Sho_ | every time I start it my brain explodes |
| 15:06.15 | Sho_ | but i'm very sensitive to things like that |
| 15:06.19 | mefistofeles | I use it everyday :P |
| 15:06.23 | Sho_ | you might say pedantic |
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| 15:06.55 | nfk | Sho_, eh? just right now i have even aliases, hinted and sub-pixel rendered kanji/kana along with english and it's perfectly fine |
| 15:07.01 | nfk | *aliased |
| 15:07.21 | Sho_ | I didn't mean the fonts tho |
| 15:07.27 | nfk | most people will tell you that it's impossible but i messed with fontconfig until it works |
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| 15:07.58 | Sho_ | yeah, I study Korean so I'm familiar with the fontconfig messin' :) |
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| 15:09.59 | nfk | Sho_, no clementine in the list |
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| 15:10.23 | nfk | besides if it was just not shown by default, i'd have notice it among the hidden icons |
| 15:11.01 | nfk | if i disable that parasitic Media Player then music keeps playing but clementine is now inaccessible |
| 15:11.01 | Sho_ | nfk: Then either the tray icon is actually disabled in Clementine, or you have a Qt 4 version without kdelibs support for KStatusNotifierItem on a distro that doesn't patch Qt 4 to use SNIs |
| 15:11.02 | Sho_ | Plasma 5 no longer supports the legacy X11embed-based tray protocol |
| 15:11.11 | nfk | Sho_, hmm... do i have SNI enabled in Qt4? |
| 15:11.15 | nfk | i might not |
| 15:11.20 | Sho_ | Qt 4 doesn't have SNI support without a patch |
| 15:11.28 | Sho_ | But I believe Clementine can be built with kdelibs support to use KSNI |
| 15:11.29 | nfk | there was something about that in gentoo wiki but i did not bother with it as everything seemed to work |
| 15:11.34 | Sho_ | (Cantata can) |
| 15:11.45 | nfk | Canta UI is too simplistic |
| 15:12.04 | Sho_ | nfk: If you're basing that on my screenshot: I disabled a lot of stuff |
| 15:12.06 | nfk | i want my moodbar and i want to be able to give ratings to all files not just the active one |
| 15:12.10 | nfk | and i want my extensive search |
| 15:12.28 | Sho_ | nfk: Extensive search? |
| 15:13.11 | demm | nfk: build from the qt5 branch, works then https://github.com/clementine-player/Clementine/tree/qt5 |
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| 15:14.00 | nfk | like rating:>4 artist:sph |
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| 15:14.26 | Sho_ | nfk: The search interface can't do that I think, but the rule-based dynamic playlists can so you could abuse those as stored queries |
| 15:14.34 | nfk | it will literally find me only songs with rating greater than or equal to 4 and with sph in artist field |
| 15:14.35 | Sho_ | Which is a cludge depending on how you use things, I'll admit |
| 15:14.37 | nfk | which means one song |
| 15:14.57 | nfk | Sho_, in short, it's not even at the level of Amarok 1.x, is it? |
| 15:15.09 | nfk | though i'm not sure if amarok could do such extensive searching |
| 15:15.16 | nfk | one would assume amarok 2.x+ can |
| 15:15.33 | Sho_ | Well it technically can do it, it's a question of how it's exposed |
| 15:15.43 | nfk | i'll point out i do that almost every day |
| 15:15.57 | nfk | like sometimes i do rating:4.5 and only listen to stuff with that rating |
| 15:16.22 | Sho_ | You can do that via dynamic playlists, but you can't just type it into the search field, yeah |
| 15:16.28 | nfk | oh, sorry, i was wondering why it found only one song, it was supposed to be rating:>=4 artist:sph |
| 15:16.59 | nfk | and does cantata even have moodbar? |
| 15:17.02 | nfk | i bet you not |
| 15:17.12 | Sho_ | no clue tbh |
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| 15:18.14 | Sho_ | some things I like about is that it makes it very easy to find stuff that was just added to the collection, generally makes it very easy to navigate from place to place (e.g. jumping from a playlist item to the artist in the collection), has a decent tagging UI, etc. |
| 15:18.33 | Sho_ | sure, i guess that's "the basics", but they work well and fast and there's a lots of well thought out little details |
| 15:19.02 | nfk | For qt4-based applications that miss a systray icon: |
| 15:19.03 | nfk | root #emerge --ask dev-libs/sni-qt |
| 15:19.10 | nfk | Sho_, ^, yep need to install that |
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| 15:22.36 | Sho_ | nfk: can't find moodbar stuff no |
| 15:24.38 | nfk | Sho_, anyway, huge thanks with sni-qt, hopefully i'll be getting back my Clementine systray icon |
| 15:24.45 | nfk | very much appreciated, thank you |
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| 15:27.08 | nfk | btw, what's with KMail now asking me for password every time it's started? could it be because of missing KWallet for KDE SC 4 as it was uninstalled? note that password is still shown in setings, it's just not used instead prompting me every time it's started |
| 15:27.21 | nfk | annoying as hell because i don't even known my gmail password from the top of my head |
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| 15:39.33 | nfk | IT'S BACK, WOOO~ |
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| 16:02.19 | Sho_ | nfk: np & cool @ sni |
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| 16:47.02 | jihedamine | Hi. I'm using a multi-monitor set and KDE 5.2 task switcher is appearing only on the secondary monitor. |
| 16:47.17 | jihedamine | Is there a way to make it appear on both monitors please? |
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| 16:52.44 | mefistofeles | jihedamine: you need to manually add it to the other screen |
| 16:52.50 | mefistofeles | add a panel, and widgets |
| 16:53.30 | jihedamine | mefistofeles: the task switcher is the popup that appears when doing alt-tab |
| 16:53.42 | mefistofeles | ah |
| 16:53.50 | mefistofeles | don't know about that one, sorry |
| 16:53.57 | jihedamine | ok, thanks :) |
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| 17:01.18 | nfk | btw, has the picture frame widget been ported yet? i'd like to get back my picture frames on my desktop |
| 17:04.08 | Sho_ | nfk: no, and that's my fault |
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| 17:04.25 | Sho_ | nfk: i started doing it, keep dropping it because it's not my Real Work and so it's waiting on me |
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| 17:04.56 | nfk | at least i'm glad it's comming back |
| 17:05.02 | nfk | i'll live with what there is |
| 17:05.18 | nfk | it's not like it's that good without pattern backgrounds |
| 17:05.28 | nfk | and i'm sure those aren't comming back in ther forseeable future |
| 17:05.33 | Sho_ | nfk: pattern backgrounds for the image frame? |
| 17:05.44 | nfk | no, patterned backgrounds for the desktop |
| 17:05.50 | Sho_ | ah |
| 17:05.54 | Sho_ | you should try to write it |
| 17:05.59 | Sho_ | it doesn't even need compiling |
| 17:06.10 | Sho_ | could be a fun little project |
| 17:06.16 | nfk | any pointers? i guess if it does not take more than one evening it's okay to try |
| 17:06.31 | nfk | i really need to get to my bachelor thesis over this summer |
| 17:07.04 | Sho_ | i'm not sure we have an up-to-date tutorial, but basically it involves writing a little qml much like for other wallpaper plugins, putting it into the right sort of directory structure and zipping it up and that's that |
| 17:08.10 | nfk | i have written a tiling plugin (not the one that's published) for kwin 4 that also works with kwin 5 and i did do some qt quick ui for a robotics project but never got to gluing that qt quick with custom C++ |
| 17:08.29 | Sho_ | i don't think you'd actually need custom c++ for the pattern thing |
| 17:08.45 | Sho_ | you could just put the patterns as PNGs into the package structure and load them inside the QML |
| 17:08.50 | nfk | just describing my background with qt/kde |
| 17:08.56 | Sho_ | oooor go really fancy and embed them as shaders |
| 17:09.50 | Sho_ | nfk: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=tree&hb=de81f492ade74091abca352dee35538cac2088f0&h=2cf3240084d7657224c3b31c3723ce87e37f52e9&f=wallpapers |
| 17:09.56 | Sho_ | check out the color subfolder |
| 17:10.00 | nfk | i guess that sounds fun too, i wrote some very basic shaders last year for a computer graphics course |
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| 17:10.02 | Sho_ | that's the plugin doing the solid colors |
| 17:10.23 | nfk | can i just git that URL? |
| 17:10.26 | Sho_ | http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=blob&h=b556ad31164c4b20022acb82c2873f4acef51f8b&hb=de81f492ade74091abca352dee35538cac2088f0&f=wallpapers%2Fcolor%2Fcontents%2Fui%2Fmain.qml |
| 17:10.29 | Sho_ | s'much code |
| 17:10.31 | Sho_ | :) |
| 17:11.01 | Sho_ | nfk: git clone git://anongit.kde.org/plasma-workspace.git |
| 17:11.01 | nfk | thanks |
| 17:11.06 | Sho_ | write a cool pattern plugin and we can get it in there (or kdeplasma-addons if anyone objects) |
| 17:11.06 | nfk | wait, how big is that one? |
| 17:11.21 | Sho_ | hmm guessing about 100mb or so |
| 17:11.31 | Sho_ | if you just want to check out the code, do a shallow clone |
| 17:11.34 | Sho_ | if you don't need history |
| 17:11.38 | Sho_ | then it's only a few mb |
| 17:11.44 | nfk | actually, i might have the code already installed |
| 17:11.50 | Sho_ | right, gentoo |
| 17:11.52 | Sho_ | well |
| 17:11.52 | nfk | doing locate right now |
| 17:11.54 | Sho_ | you have the code in any case |
| 17:11.58 | Sho_ | since it's not compiled |
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| 17:12.05 | Sho_ | so what's in git there is just installed |
| 17:12.11 | nfk | normally not but on my system sources are installed to ease debugging |
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| 17:12.28 | Sho_ | yeah but what i mean is that the result of "make install" for something like that is just cp |
| 17:12.28 | nfk | assuming it hasn't changed |
| 17:12.41 | nfk | but after that it's deleted |
| 17:14.12 | kadosh | Hi |
| 17:14.14 | nfk | /usr/share/plasma/wallpapers/org.kde.color/contents/ui/main.qml // could this be the one? |
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| 17:17.46 | nfk | 1) wrong file; 2) opening a URL froze my Konversation; 3) it opened the URL with Geany |
| 17:18.05 | Sho_ | nfk: sounds like the right file actually |
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| 17:18.21 | nfk | oh right, because geany showed me the HTML |
| 17:18.40 | Sho_ | the color wallpaper is dirt simple |
| 17:18.52 | Sho_ | it's basically a good wallpaper hello world |
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| 17:19.53 | nfk | yeah, it was indeed the right file |
| 17:20.16 | nfk | and you don't even need sources for that - it's on every system |
| 17:20.25 | Sho_ | that's what I said~ |
| 17:20.50 | nfk | which is why ms and friens are doing their best to come up with a compiled alternative to javascript so that future web can again be proprietary |
| 17:21.18 | nfk | including an api that does not make it obvious how the obfuscated code works |
| 17:21.24 | Kazaii | my KDE keeps crashing and restarting. Executable: plasmashell PID: 1577 Signal: Segmentation fault (11). It's not crucial but starting to become annoying due to the popups. Happens every few minutes. I'm running KDE 5.11 |
| 17:21.57 | nfk | that alone is not very useful, i expect, can you get a backtrace? |
| 17:22.45 | Sho_ | yeah, we need a backtrace from one of those popups |
| 17:23.33 | nfk | Sho_, looking at the code, does it mean there's some kind of unified wallpaper configuration? i thought every wallpaper plugin had its own config |
| 17:24.00 | Kazaii | I'm unsure how to get a backtrace. Please forgive me on that |
| 17:24.05 | Kazaii | I have the popups open |
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| 17:24.19 | nfk | it's in another tab if by pop up you meant a window |
| 17:24.29 | Sho_ | nfk: every plugin gets to supply it's own config ui that gets embedded into the host dialog |
| 17:24.34 | Sho_ | *its |
| 17:24.42 | Kazaii | developer informaiton ? |
| 17:24.45 | nfk | oh, right, there was another file |
| 17:24.47 | nfk | yes |
| 17:25.07 | Sho_ | Kazaii: yep |
| 17:25.16 | Kazaii | apparently i don't have gdb installed (debugger application) |
| 17:25.22 | Kazaii | so it is unable to geenration crash information |
| 17:25.33 | nfk | distro? |
| 17:25.43 | Kazaii | Arch |
| 17:25.49 | Sho_ | ... ah crap |
| 17:25.51 | Kazaii | installed it now |
| 17:25.58 | Sho_ | arch has no debug symbol packages so it can't make backtraces |
| 17:26.03 | nfk | what? |
| 17:26.07 | Kazaii | i've got a lot of information |
| 17:26.09 | Sho_ | (which is the main reason i tend to think poorly of arch as a developer) |
| 17:27.02 | Kazaii | http://pastebin.com/qcs9CJQc |
| 17:29.40 | rdieter | Kazaii: see all those: ?? () bits? missing debug symbols. backtrace isn't very useful |
| 17:29.51 | Kazaii | :( |
| 17:29.54 | Kazaii | My apologies. |
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| 17:33.28 | nfk | was arch set up by most stupid gentoo users? |
| 17:33.52 | Kazaii | Is that a stab at me? :'( |
| 17:34.02 | nfk | no, at arch developers |
| 17:34.13 | Kazaii | it happened again |
| 17:34.19 | Kazaii | I'll just live with it until it goes away |
| 17:34.23 | nfk | you'd have to be high on moronity to create a distro without debug symbols |
| 17:34.58 | Kazaii | if I create a distribution, I will keep that in mind |
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| 17:40.39 | nfk | i wanted to say that gentoo has gotten better but some fucking asshole has removed my edits to gentoo wiki that did recommend compiling with debug symbols even though my changes were accepted by developers |
| 17:41.37 | nfk | wow, it has been moved two levels deep into wiki |
| 17:41.40 | nfk | who would find it there? |
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| 17:42.18 | Kazaii | not it |
| 17:42.21 | Kazaii | not I * |
| 17:44.32 | nfk | and even then they messed it up by finding some obscure -g3 flag but not even mentioning -ggdb2 |
| 17:44.49 | nfk | as often i have to wonder if gentoo devs are mentally challenged |
| 17:44.55 | nfk | that is, some devs |
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| 17:55.31 | acz32 | is there a way to have the panel vertical and still show the clock in it without making the panel very wide? |
| 17:55.42 | acz32 | if i could hide the AM/PM that would save some space |
| 17:56.18 | nfk | wow, they even managed to confuse people by writing about x86 and -fomit-frame-pointer but never ever ever mentioning that they're talking about the 32 bit x86 and that amd64/x64/x86_64 is not affected by the issue |
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| 17:56.39 | nfk | i seriously wish someone put an axe through those idiots so that world is spared from them |
| 17:56.58 | nfk | acz32, yes, i have that setup |
| 17:57.28 | nfk | it's not gonna be very wide as it's still horizontal but there's no reason why it's not possible unless very wide for you starts at 10 pixels |
| 17:57.54 | nfk | acz32, use a european 24h time format |
| 17:58.44 | nfk | arguably the applet should be able to pt stuff vertically or at least linebreak |
| 17:59.00 | nfk | *put |
| 18:00.22 | acz32 | i'm surprised i can't use a 12 hour format without AM/PM |
| 18:01.28 | nfk | just a gues but maybe the developer was a european |
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| 18:01.33 | nfk | *guess |
| 18:01.38 | acz32 | 24 hour format is going to waste some space too |
| 18:01.54 | nfk | in what way? |
| 18:02.18 | acz32 | well maybe not. it doesn't show seconds does it? |
| 18:02.21 | nfk | after 12:59 comes 13:00, that's it |
| 18:02.27 | nfk | that's up to you |
| 18:02.30 | acz32 | i'll give that a try |
| 18:02.46 | acz32 | thanks |
| 18:08.06 | acz32 | now if only i could use the menu keyboard key in shortcuts |
| 18:08.36 | acz32 | another strange design choice compared to every other WM |
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| 18:11.39 | nfk | can't you? |
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| 18:13.10 | acz32 | no |
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| 18:13.16 | nfk | indeed |
| 18:13.19 | nfk | i wonder why |
| 18:14.17 | acz32 | no clue. i used it heavily in my old window manager so when i switched to kde it was one of the first things i noticed |
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| 18:14.40 | nfk | what did it do? right click emulation? |
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| 18:15.20 | acz32 | ya it opens a context menu in whatever application, but i used to combine it with control/alt to use as keyboard shortcuts for window manipulation |
| 18:15.41 | nfk | which wm was that? |
| 18:16.00 | acz32 | openbox and i3 |
| 18:16.03 | nfk | kde itself can work with another wm though i suspect plasma 2 might be deeply coupled with kwin |
| 18:16.27 | acz32 | i like kwin otherwise |
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| 18:54.41 | Psy-Q | how can i find out what's wrong if the alt-f2 bookmark search isn't showing anything on one machine, but is working fine on the other? both are debian testing and the browser is iceweasel |
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| 18:59.13 | cb400f | Psy-Q: check that bookmarks plugin is enabled ... I didn't think that would support non-kde browsers though |
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| 19:00.10 | Psy-Q | cb400f: it is enabled |
| 19:00.12 | cb400f | but it does... never noticed before, thanks ;-) |
| 19:00.18 | Psy-Q | yeah, it's freaking awesome |
| 19:00.22 | Psy-Q | i found out by accident and it just rocks |
| 19:00.31 | Psy-Q | the plugin is enabled here too, though :( |
| 19:00.50 | Psy-Q | i don't know if i might have some package that does the bridging between iceweasel and kde... hmm. i'm too lazy to compare package lists right now :( |
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| 19:01.32 | cb400f | does testing have kde4 or plasma5 btw? |
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| 19:03.27 | Psy-Q | still 4 |
| 19:03.41 | Psy-Q | i don't mind, 4 is the shit and it's super-stable |
| 19:04.22 | Psy-Q | if there's a log for the alt-f2 thing (does it have a name?) maybe i could poke that |
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| 19:08.27 | cb400f | Psy-Q: the name is "krunner" |
| 19:08.39 | cb400f | dunno if it logs... maybe in .xsession-errors probably |
| 19:09.00 | cb400f | is still on kde4, but starting to have a very bad itch |
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| 19:32.02 | Psy-Q | i'm afraid i might not want to let go of 4 |
| 19:32.15 | Psy-Q | 5 is looking nice now, though |
| 19:33.20 | Psy-Q | KPluginInfo::kcmServices: found 0 offers for "bookmarks" |
| 19:33.27 | Psy-Q | cb400f: thanks, i didn't know KDE logs stuff there :D |
| 19:33.39 | Psy-Q | so now i need to find a kcmservice for bookmarks and that probably solves it all |
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| 19:35.35 | cb400f | maybe try if the plugin will find konqueror bookmarks, or bookmarks for other browsers to narrow down if the issue is specific to iceweasel, or if all browsers are affected |
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| 19:37.59 | Psy-Q | cb400f: i still have "0 offers" for bookmarks, but it looks like konqueror bookmarks are found even without any services (?) |
| 19:38.02 | Psy-Q | at least they do show up |
| 19:39.01 | Psy-Q | odd, the krunner wiki page doesn't mention supporting iceweasel/firefox |
| 19:39.03 | cb400f | I interpret that message as the plugin is essentially "working", just doesn't find the iceweasel bookmarks for some reason |
| 19:39.05 | Psy-Q | it just worked by magic |
| 19:39.40 | cb400f | works for me too, with firefox, but... same thing I should think |
| 19:40.08 | Psy-Q | does your xsession-errors list any services found for bookmarks? |
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| 19:47.21 | Psy-Q | i'm also now poking Baloo to see if desktop search is something i'd like |
| 19:48.30 | cb400f | hm, the only bookmark related things I find in .xsession-errors seems to be akonadi related |
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| 19:52.06 | Psy-Q | hmmm |
| 19:52.13 | Psy-Q | well, i might play around with it a bit more |
| 19:52.48 | Psy-Q | i'm not sure i can figure it out. maybe i'll ask here again in a bunch of days if that's okay |
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| 20:48.04 | johnflux_ | plasmashell is using 102% of my cpu |
| 20:48.09 | johnflux_ | is there any way to find out why? |
| 20:53.00 | acz32 | i get 100% cpu use when i do file transfers to my usb device |
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| 22:04.40 | jay_ | hey all |
| 22:05.27 | jay_ | how can i upgrade my kde as i cant do audio mixing for recorde / streaming so i can stream my output and mic together |
| 22:06.12 | troffasky | is that really a KDE thing? |
| 22:07.11 | jay_ | i have no idea but it looks different compaered to the site i dont know how to show wt kde version im using |
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| 22:09.32 | DaBungalow | I am having an issue with setting chromium as my default browser. |
| 22:09.46 | DaBungalow | I am using Plasma 5 on Arch Linux. |
| 22:10.01 | DaBungalow | I have set Chromium as the default browser in my system settings. |
| 22:10.24 | DaBungalow | However, when I open Chromium in a new X session, I get the set chromium as your default browser notification. |
| 22:11.02 | DaBungalow | When I open links, they all open in Chromium like they should. |
| 22:11.39 | DaBungalow | I just find it weird that Chromium isn't recognizing that it is the default browser. |
| 22:12.55 | jay_ | chrome is better then chromium google that |
| 22:13.51 | jay_ | or just uninstall browsers you dont wana use simple really! |
| 22:14.39 | DaBungalow | I am asking because it seems like this is a bug somewhere and I am trying to help fix it. |
| 22:14.55 | DaBungalow | I don't necessarily want a workaround yet. I want to help. |
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| 22:15.37 | Sho_ | DaBungalow: There's a couple of different ways to specify a default browser on desktop Linux and Chrome is probably checking a different one then |
| 22:15.47 | jay_ | remove chromium thats the crappest browser |
| 22:15.59 | jay_ | just have the 1 u want then itl be fine |
| 22:16.08 | Sho_ | jay_: You misunderstood his problem |
| 22:16.16 | Sho_ | He doesn't have a problem with multiple browsers |
| 22:16.19 | Sho_ | He has the browser he wants |
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| 22:16.22 | jay_ | not really hes using the worse browser made |
| 22:16.34 | DaBungalow | I would argue IE takes that title. |
| 22:16.45 | DaBungalow | Chromium actually fits my needs really well. |
| 22:16.46 | jay_ | iw isnt for linux so thats not an issue |
| 22:16.51 | jay_ | ie* |
| 22:17.03 | jay_ | u chose to install a broiwser thats no good |
| 22:17.05 | Sho_ | (random trivia: there used to be a Unix version of IE) |
| 22:17.22 | jay_ | yer well u gta really wanit on there to get it on there |
| 22:17.32 | Sho_ | Chrome is just Chromium + some perjunctory proprietary bits |
| 22:18.04 | jay_ | to fix default issues take off all browsers except firefox and then restart then install chrome and restart again |
| 22:18.28 | jay_ | make sure you install chrome and not chromium |
| 22:18.34 | DaBungalow | The only other browser I have on KDE is Konqueror. |
| 22:18.40 | DaBungalow | And I am still having this issue. |
| 22:18.48 | jay_ | remove that if you can after you install chrome |
| 22:18.51 | Sho_ | DaBungalow: I'd say just disable the default browser check in Chromium |
| 22:19.26 | DaBungalow | So are you saying you think the problem is Chromium related and not KDE related? |
| 22:19.36 | DaBungalow | Because this all worked great under Gnome 3. |
| 22:20.16 | Sho_ | DaBungalow: I'm not sure, I'd have to dig deeper to come to a real opinion on that. I'm vaguely aware there's two to three ways to set the default browser (a KDE rc file and two based on shared-mime |
| 22:20.34 | jay_ | the problem is chromium itself remove it |
| 22:20.45 | Sho_ | DaBungalow: Whether KDE should be doing what Chromium checks for or whether Chromium should be checking what KDE does depends on the relative merits of those methods |
| 22:21.00 | DaBungalow | Sho_: Good point. |
| 22:21.04 | jay_ | i have kde and i have issues but never with the browsers as i only have firefox and chrome i dont mess with any other browser |
| 22:21.23 | DaBungalow | I did set a bunch of mimetypes to be associated with chromium. |
| 22:21.29 | DaBungalow | Didn't make a differenc.e |
| 22:21.38 | jay_ | u shudnbt mess with that |
| 22:21.40 | DaBungalow | So maybe it is a Chromium issue. |
| 22:22.09 | jay_ | google install chrome for linux and install that then remove all other browsers |
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| 22:22.21 | rdieter | DaBungalow: what does this say (in a termina/konsole): xdg-settings get default-web-browser |
| 22:22.27 | Sho_ | DaBungalow: The MIME thing is complicated, there's file types, but there's also virtual faux file types for protocol schemas like http:// and another default apps thingie |
| 22:22.28 | jay_ | chromium sucks mate not even liying |
| 22:22.43 | Sho_ | DaBungalow: It's all pretty complicated and filled with historical baggage and I forgot half of it by now |
| 22:23.10 | Sho_ | jay_: Please stop with the spamming dude, we heard your take on it now |
| 22:23.33 | DaBungalow | I think I may have found the issue? |
| 22:23.35 | DaBungalow | chrome-fahmaaghhglfmonjliepjlchgpgfmobi-Default.desktop |
| 22:23.43 | DaBungalow | Which points to Google Play Music. |
| 22:23.46 | jay_ | k sho but hes never gna fix it with crap installed i lerned that so im just saying how i fixed it all them years ago lol |
| 22:24.14 | DaBungalow | https://ptpb.pw/ahdG.desktop |
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| 22:24.33 | DaBungalow | that is is chrome-fahmaaghhglfmonjliepjlchgpgfmobi-Default.desktop file |
| 22:24.40 | DaBungalow | in .local/share/applications |
| 22:24.51 | rdieter | DaBungalow: ok, try this: DE=gnome XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=gnome xdg-settings set chrome-fahmaaghhglfmonjliepjlchgpgfmobi-Default.desktop |
| 22:25.28 | jay_ | do anyone know how i can sort this sound issue out plz? i want to upgrade my kide for the newest kmix? |
| 22:25.46 | DaBungalow | Would it make a difference if I had reinstalled the system since I had gnome on it? |
| 22:25.50 | jay_ | and newest kde command? |
| 22:25.53 | DaBungalow | Which was yesterday. |
| 22:26.30 | DaBungalow | Or does that go in the desktop file? |
| 22:26.32 | jay_ | reinstalling is over the top for such a basic issue m8 just my opinion |
| 22:26.47 | DaBungalow | I didn't reinstall because of Chromium. |
| 22:27.08 | jay_ | maybe u didnt do a fresh install |
| 22:27.11 | DaBungalow | I reinstalled because I had all of my Gnome packages still on the system with there configs and things were REALLY funky. |
| 22:27.30 | DaBungalow | The only thing intact from the last install was my data drive. |
| 22:27.38 | DaBungalow | No configs of any kind. |
| 22:27.45 | jay_ | im thinking of going off kde if i cant sort this dam sound recrding selection thing out |
| 22:28.17 | jay_ | all i want is mix recording like windows normally has so u can use mic and w.e output like a music player or other app at the same time |
| 22:28.43 | jay_ | all i get is loud static noise |
| 22:28.55 | troffasky | have you tried unininstalling chrome? |
| 22:29.09 | Sho_ | (lmao) |
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| 22:30.08 | jay_ | i need to upgrade kde how can i do that 1 simple thing# |
| 22:31.05 | jay_ | ]my kmix is old it looks nothing like on kde site |
| 22:31.13 | troffasky | the usual advice would be to use your OS's package management |
| 22:31.44 | troffasky | also bear in mind KDE/Qt is themable so your kmix may look nothing like mine even if it were the same version |
| 22:32.25 | DaBungalow | Ok I fixed the issue. |
| 22:32.31 | DaBungalow | The problem was with xdg-settings. |
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| 22:33.02 | DaBungalow | I ran cat /usr/share/applications/chromium.desktop > .local/share/applications/chromium.desktop. |
| 22:33.22 | DaBungalow | Then a simple xdg-settings set default-web-browser chromium.desktop fixed it. |
| 22:33.28 | DaBungalow | Thanks for the help! |
| 22:34.51 | jay_ | i see this > Settings for the Phonon multimedia framework i think thats the problem whats the best easyest 1 to use for selecting mix audio? |
| 22:35.35 | jay_ | i dont want drop down menus i need select boxs and i dno how to get that sort of framework |
| 22:38.49 | jay_ | in backends theres 1 option only how do i get more? |
| 22:39.12 | rdieter | jay_: there are only 2 to choose from, but your distro default is usually the best option |
| 22:39.18 | rdieter | (gstreamer vs vlc) |
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| 22:40.50 | yates | what is a good way to test a samba drive under kde? |
| 22:41.14 | jay_ | smb:sharename |
| 22:41.42 | yates | jay_: what do you mean? on the cli you can do "ls smb:sharename"? |
| 22:42.01 | jay_ | like smb://jay@jay-pc/ |
| 22:42.10 | jay_ | that will help |
| 22:42.54 | yates | ls: cannot access smb://yates@192.168.1.1/: No such file or directory |
| 22:43.07 | jay_ | oh u gta add a user |
| 22:43.12 | rdieter | yates: in dolphin address bar |
| 22:43.25 | yates | oh, this was just in an xterm... |
| 22:43.28 | jay_ | theres a gui tool to add a user to samba |
| 22:43.53 | jay_ | its not done automatically in case u dont know |
| 22:43.54 | rdieter | or command line: smbclient --user=yates '\\192.168.1.1' |
| 22:44.30 | yates | aha. |
| 22:44.36 | yates | ok, it's working in dolphin. |
| 22:44.39 | yates | thank you! |
| 22:44.50 | rdieter | yates: that's work in any kde app too |
| 22:45.09 | yates | i need it to work in windows across my local netowrk. |
| 22:46.00 | jay_ | itl work if u can access it from linux it should also work from any pc on ur local network |
| 22:46.18 | yates | ok, let me test.. |
| 22:47.45 | yates | yup. i'll be - this stuff really works! |
| 22:47.54 | yates | thanks again, rdieter and jay_ ! |
| 22:48.03 | jay_ | npz |
| 22:48.35 | yates | now i can get back to my Freescale Coldfire V2 debugging... |
| 22:49.01 | yates | are you kde developers ? |
| 22:49.17 | yates | if so, thanks man, fantastic OS! |
| 22:49.39 | yates | except it is still a little bit of a resource hog... |
| 22:49.58 | yates | not at all a problem on my new workstatation, but on the old laptop... |
| 22:50.46 | jay_ | make sure your using 64 bit and you got enough ram |
| 22:50.49 | yates | actually i guess nouveau is in the process of pulling in some fixes for old nvidia cards |
| 22:51.14 | yates | so i had to switch to lxde for now.. |
| 22:51.31 | yates | i think it's 2GB on the laptop. |
| 22:51.47 | yates | 64 GB on the workstation... is that enough? :) |
| 22:55.02 | jay_ | i got 3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 23:30:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:55.02 | jay_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.40 | thiago | jay_: not a KDE question |
| 22:56.45 | thiago | please ask in #linuxmint or so |
| 22:56.53 | jay_ | i wana upgrade kde to latest version |
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| 23:00.36 | jay_ | i found Muon Update Manager and upgrading now is that the best way? |
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| 23:07.14 | yates | thiago: got the qt project done. |
| 23:07.30 | yates | it was about 10000 SLOC. |
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