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03:43.36qptain_Nemokate doesn't offer me an option to not autosave sessions for me, and it seems to spawn redundant window splitters to the right after using sessions with split views, and when the "include window configuration" option is checked it results in infinite growth of those splitters that can't even be prevented. are those known bugs or should i report them?
03:49.07qptain_Nemook so it's still possible to use 1 session with split views, but as soon as i press "new session" all hell breaks loose
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05:14.49xamindarso.....is kwallet not used anymore in plasma5?
05:15.26xamindarI had to explicatly enable it through a manual edit to kwalletrc, otherwise kwalletmanager would not even open
05:16.45xamindarthen i created a wallet named "xamindar", but nothing will use it. I get an occasional prompt to unlock the non-existant wallet called kdewallet so i'm not sure what that is about
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05:25.39bAndChat409644Hi
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07:26.12bAndChat409644Hi
07:26.21bAndChat409644This chenel for?
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07:45.20jakob__Is there a place where I can follow progress for dolphin
07:45.53jakob__I am curious when dolphin will start using KDE Frameworks 5.0
07:46.18bAndChat409644What is new in framework 5
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07:47.44jgrulichjakob__: there is already port of Dolphin to KF5 and works perfectly, it was not just released yet
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07:49.36jakob__Sounds great - right now I have the problem that kio-slaves features don't work between dolphin and Kate because they are using different KDE frameworks.
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08:11.10sacardehi
08:11.57sacardedo you know projects of a minimal/light KDE ?
08:12.27sacardelike the old: trinity-de or klyde projects ?
08:12.35BlaXpiritkde 5
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08:13.30sacardeI have to install it on an old PC (celeron) with 1gb ram
08:13.57xmorphsacarde: opensuse KlyDE
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08:15.07sacardexmorph, Minimal Klyde is abandoned
08:15.30xmorphinstall kde5 then
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08:15.53BlaXpiritinstall xfce
08:16.18sacardewhat do you think of trinity-r14 ?
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10:47.18lordievaderGood afternoon.
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10:49.34BluesKajG'Day folks
10:50.25Tujuewwww, all my konversation bookmarks are gone.
10:50.36Tujunice job 4->5
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11:23.59BluesKajHi again
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11:27.07rindolfBluesKaj: meow!
11:27.10rindolfBluesKaj: sup?
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11:30.08BluesKajhey rindolf, trying debian Jessie for fun with KDE , still as I remember it , a little different , but not much.
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11:32.46BlaXpiritBluesKaj, what are you normally on?
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11:34.50BluesKajBlaXpirit, kubuntu dev releases, testing 15.10 on another partition atm
11:35.14BlaXpiritgreat
11:35.27BluesKajKubuntu 15.10 alpha 1 actually
11:35.40BlaXpiritso you're normally on "dev releases"?
11:35.59BlaXpiritdoes that mean beta software?
11:36.11BlaXpiritkde beta releases, in particular
11:36.20BluesKajBlaXpirit, yes, I'm a kubuntu "tester"
11:36.23BlaXpiritok
11:36.38BluesKajnot beta yes , still in alspha
11:36.46BluesKajyes=yet
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11:37.22BluesKajtries to shed more light on the KB and turn spellcheck on
11:38.06asasmitais the kde 5 on fedora stable enough? thx before :)
11:38.14BlaXpiriti wonder how many applications get kf5 ports in the next release
11:38.25BlaXpiritexcited for dolphin
11:38.34BlaXpiritbut i still probably won't switch to kde 5
11:39.09BluesKajkde5 has morphed into plasma5 , there's no kde5 afaik
11:39.21BlaXpiriti get it
11:39.26BlaXpiritbut of course there is kde5
11:40.01BluesKajunofficiallyI reckon
11:40.04BlaXpiritit's just a careless generalization of everything that goes after kde4
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11:54.01BluesKajso rindolf , what's your project today?
11:54.18rindolfBluesKaj: Freecell Solver.
11:54.53BluesKajwow, there's an oldie
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12:24.14BlaXpiriti'm trying to hack on Dolphin to make awesome integration between file manager and terminal
12:24.24BlaXpiritand fix the bugs with directory switching
12:24.47BlaXpiritthe bug seems gone, at least :)
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13:10.26BlaXpiritcd() { command cd $@; qdbus $KONSOLE_DBUS_SERVICE /dolphin/Dolphin_1 changeUrlString "file://$PWD"; }
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13:17.49MrSassyPantsthe whole "fullscreen windows have no borders thing" that supposedly worked with older versions doesn't work
13:19.19MrSassyPantsBorderlessMaximizedWindows=true under [Windows] in kwinrc.
13:19.20MrSassyPantsthat
13:20.20MrSassyPantsah, never mind, apparently kwinrc is now in .config rather than .kde/share/config, and the latter is still there.
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15:31.23Aristidehttp://download.lazyone.fr/share/screenshot/9d4b1042-6f81-45d3-9cd3-4cf94569cc0f.png J'ai trouvé un bogue \o/
15:31.27AristideOoops sorry, I have found a bug :')
15:32.50bshahis there some kwin script or something so that if I have two windows snapped to each other and if I resize one other also get resized/
15:32.52bshah?
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15:49.52AristideAnd sometime, I get crash in KDE 5 when I open Open/Save file dialog
15:50.05AristideApp continue to work, but nothing appear
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16:34.36iH2Owhen I'm in a konsole and I type "kconsole" to launch a new one I get a bit of junk, namely this message:
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16:35.09iH2OFontconfig warning: ignoring ISO-8859-1: not a valid region tag
16:35.17iH2OX Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
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16:35.54iH2OBut I don't get this when I launch konsole with a shortcut
16:36.16iH2Okonsole still works fine
16:38.01iH2OI get this message in the original konsole, not in the new one
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18:27.26ksardasbshah: sorry for the delayed anwser. you can always request that feature in the community forum
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19:34.41jerichowasahoaxWould things melt if I replaced ~/.local/share/Trash with a symlink to /dev/null?
19:35.00jerichowasahoaxWell, besides not having a working "trash can" anymore but that's the idea
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20:04.42BlaXpiritjerichowasahoax, y u no disable it
20:05.40jerichowasahoaxBlaXpirit: There's no actual "disable", and even if there was, non-KDE programs (Wine especially) still use .local/share/Trash with no way for me to stop that
20:06.43jerichowasahoaxReplacing the directory with a symlink to /dev/null would do the job but I have no idea if it would break other things that happen to try to look inside that directory, and how bad that damage would be
20:07.29jerichowasahoaxRunning a cronjob to delete the contents of that directory would also do the trick, but that's an extra process that runs every so often and I'd just prefer not to do that
20:07.35BlaXpiritjerichowasahoax, much much better to link it to tmp
20:07.55jerichowasahoaxBlaXpirit: Except when I delete things, I want them *gone*. Not moved somewhere.
20:07.58BlaXpiritu could even undelete something before rebooting
20:08.02BlaXpiritjerichowasahoax, tmp gets deleted
20:08.23jerichowasahoaxBlaXpirit: As in "deleted immediately". /tmp does not get cleared immediately
20:08.40BlaXpiritthen don't delete things to trashbin, delete permanently
20:08.40jerichowasahoaxheck, i've never known it to get cleared at all unless I explicitly configure it as a tmpfs in /etc/fstab
20:08.52jerichowasahoaxBlaXpirit: ...are you even paying attention to what i'm saying
20:09.13BlaXpiritjerichowasahoax, no, it should get cleared in any case
20:09.55jerichowasahoaxBlaXpirit: To reiterate: Programs are using .local/share/Trash against my will without any way for me to stop it, so I want to force permanent deletion on a "global" scale
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20:11.16jerichowasahoaxBlaXpirit: I'm merely asking if KDE would break if I replaced that directory with a symlink to /dev/null.
20:11.46BlaXpiriti'm sure something some time will break
20:12.33jerichowasahoaxThe only way I see things breaking is if it tries to look at the contents of that directory, and isn't prepared to react when it finds out it's not really a directory
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20:13.24jerichowasahoaxdolphin would probably spit an error at worst, but i don't know if any background processes check the contents as part of their routine operation and how bad they would break down
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20:34.24acz32kdm starts and takes over about 5-7 seconds after
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21:11.06Pastafarianist1Hi everyone. Yesterday I asked a question here and was told to do some diagnostics, however it didn't really help. I went to Superuser and created a question there, but so far it has no answer either. Maybe someone who's here now could help me with this issue? https://superuser.com/questions/938471/graphical-artifacts-in-kde-5-on-intel-gma4500mhd
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21:15.14Pastafarianist1Or maybe point me to another channel where I could get help.
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