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| 06:08.31 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys , sorry i can't seem to remember the shortcut for the terminal that opens from the top of KDE |
| 06:08.34 | cobra-the-joker | what was it ? |
| 06:10.09 | valorie | are you talking about yakuake?> |
| 06:10.27 | valorie | if so, it's f12 unless you changed it |
| 06:11.13 | tret | each distro has it's own shortcuts |
| 06:11.34 | valorie | ok, or if your distro changes it |
| 06:11.50 | tret | go to System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures |
| 06:12.20 | valorie | the shortcut for yakuake can be set within yakuake |
| 06:12.22 | cobra-the-joker | oh ok , that's it , thank you |
| 06:12.37 | valorie | yw |
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| 13:11.46 | hugosthlm | I get this error in kdm.log when connecting with xdmcp: "kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have started the DBUS server.". The dbus is running. Restarting KDM does not help. KDM is fully working locally. I'm not aware of having changed anything that could cause the problem. It's latest KDE4 on arch linux. Any clues? |
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| 15:02.35 | jd704 | Hi everybody, I'm new here and just getting to grips with KDE Plasma. Really impressed with it so far. |
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| 17:18.33 | thisischrys | anyone know of a way to use the folderview widget in plasma 5 to view something as another user? |
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| 18:00.13 | StatelessCat | when i do printing with theses tools, i got something like 60" font size ... that not good |
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| 19:06.50 | ashemark | Hi! |
| 19:07.26 | mefistofeles | hey |
| 19:07.41 | ashemark | I'm running the latest plasma on my arch linux distro; but the cursor doesn't follow the specified theme on desktop/in some other apps |
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| 19:08.01 | ashemark | changes to the generic black cursor, but reverts back to the theme in kde apps... |
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| 19:49.26 | finetundra | hello there, is it possible to import windows cursors into kde? |
| 19:50.03 | ShalokShalom | finetundra: import not, port yes |
| 19:50.12 | ShalokShalom | which ones ? |
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| 19:52.16 | finetundra | http://lavalon.deviantart.com/art/Oxygen-Cursors-76614092 I realize these are oxygen cursor but there are a couple that I just couldn't find for kde that are in this pack, spcefiaclly the terra-green |
| 19:53.42 | finetundra | ShalokShalom: are you offering to do it? |
| 19:54.46 | ShalokShalom | these cursors are already in plasma ? |
| 19:54.50 | ShalokShalom | you mean vice versa ? |
| 19:54.56 | ShalokShalom | implement them into windows ? |
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| 19:56.26 | finetundra | no, no, they're in windows but I couldn't find them in plasma. Or do they already exist in plasma and I'm not looking hard enough? |
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| 19:58.28 | ShalokShalom | they are in windows ? lol |
| 19:58.38 | ShalokShalom | oxygen is the default theme in KDE SC 4 :P |
| 19:58.55 | ShalokShalom | finetundra: ask in your distros channel :) |
| 19:59.03 | ShalokShalom | or on kde-look |
| 20:00.38 | finetundra | ShalokShalom: hmm, ok then, guess I'll be going then. Thanks though |
| 20:00.56 | ShalokShalom | :) |
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| 20:01.11 | ShalokShalom | i already see these cursors in plasma, if that helps :) |
| 20:01.16 | ShalokShalom | just forget where |
| 20:01.21 | ShalokShalom | :) |
| 20:01.36 | finetundra | All of them? |
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| 20:08.42 | persi | 'Shift+Space' is not supported by Kwrite v5.0.0! |
| 20:09.18 | persi | Shift + Space is called semi-space in some languages such as persian |
| 20:09.45 | thiago | usually not a KDE issue, but simply a keyboard mapping one |
| 20:10.16 | thiago | run xev and press Shift+Space. Does it print "space" or something different? |
| 20:10.32 | thiago | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.04 | persi | Look at these three cases: |
| 20:11.26 | persi | . Without space or anything else: Ù
Ù
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| 20:11.49 | persi | with just normal space: Ù
Ù
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| 20:12.05 | persi | with Shift+Space: Ù
âÙ
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| 20:12.44 | persi | It's a semi space; it keeps letters separated, but not far from each others |
| 20:13.02 | thiago | I can't see a difference |
| 20:13.08 | persi | Ù
=M :) |
| 20:13.16 | krytarik | I do. |
| 20:13.45 | thiago | anyway, that's irrelevant. I am sure it's important to be able to produce the symbol. |
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| 20:14.12 | persi | What is xev? @thiago |
| 20:14.30 | thiago | it's a tool that prints events from X |
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| 20:24.48 | artej_ | hi |
| 20:24.54 | artej_ | debian users here? |
| 20:25.04 | artej_ | My kde broke after upgrade to 5 :( |
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| 20:35.19 | ShalokShalom | artej_: you upgrade to 5 on debian and wonder ? |
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| 20:35.33 | ShalokShalom | experimental ? sid ? |
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| 21:02.59 | Artej | how much distros rolled out kde5? |
| 21:06.05 | BlaXpirit | Artej, too many |
| 21:06.31 | ShalokShalom | Artej: i know 3/4: fedora, kubuntu/netrunner and KaOS |
| 21:06.35 | BlaXpirit | woah woah woah |
| 21:06.38 | ShalokShalom | parts of Arch as well |
| 21:06.40 | BlaXpirit | > debian |
| 21:06.40 | ShalokShalom | ah yes manjaro |
| 21:06.42 | BlaXpirit | > kde 5 |
| 21:06.45 | BlaXpirit | is this real life? |
| 21:06.52 | Artej | ) |
| 21:07.05 | BlaXpirit | seriously, how do u have kde 5 on debian |
| 21:07.07 | ShalokShalom | Artej: i recommend only KaOS :) |
| 21:07.18 | Artej | BlaXpirit: it is in testing |
| 21:07.21 | BlaXpirit | ok |
| 21:07.25 | Artej | it is broken but semiusable |
| 21:07.32 | ShalokShalom | with mixed libs |
| 21:07.45 | ShalokShalom | Artej: useable since februar here :) |
| 21:07.51 | Artej | what's KaOS? |
| 21:07.54 | BlaXpirit | OS |
| 21:07.59 | Artej | CO |
| 21:07.59 | ShalokShalom | a distro :P |
| 21:08.06 | ShalokShalom | kaosx.us |
| 21:08.09 | ShalokShalom | much fun |
| 21:08.16 | Artej | is it as updated as debian? |
| 21:08.20 | ShalokShalom | no |
| 21:08.30 | ShalokShalom | like KaOS |
| 21:09.03 | ShalokShalom | if you like a distro like debian with kf5/ka5/plasma 5 then wait 1 year more |
| 21:09.05 | Artej | shame mandriva is dead |
| 21:09.09 | ShalokShalom | at least |
| 21:09.18 | ShalokShalom | Artej: it lives in ROSA further :) |
| 21:09.20 | ShalokShalom | for me |
| 21:09.34 | ShalokShalom | in theory, also in mageia and openmandriva |
| 21:09.50 | Artej | kind of live old opera has xD |
| 21:10.27 | Artej | otter & vivaldi are both existing, but both are the shadow of the former glory |
| 21:10.41 | ShalokShalom | Artej: oh no |
| 21:10.48 | ShalokShalom | Artej: You already run ROSA ? |
| 21:11.06 | Artej | no) |
| 21:11.12 | ShalokShalom | Artej: and just spend the otter project, what opera have :P |
| 21:11.12 | Artej | haven't tried |
| 21:11.19 | Artej | tried mageia once though |
| 21:11.22 | ShalokShalom | then we will see, how far it comes :) |
| 21:11.23 | ShalokShalom | ah |
| 21:11.25 | ShalokShalom | crap now |
| 21:11.29 | ShalokShalom | nice until 2 |
| 21:11.40 | ShalokShalom | then started the stronger focus on GNOME |
| 21:11.58 | tosky | BlaXpirit, Artej there is no Plasma 5 in Debian testing yet; some packages are landing on sid |
| 21:11.59 | ShalokShalom | which cause imho a bad implementation of the KDE stack |
| 21:12.00 | ShalokShalom | anyway |
| 21:12.35 | ShalokShalom | and mixing with more as kdelibs4 brake things |
| 21:14.04 | Artej | tosky: proof in ~1m |
| 21:14.34 | tosky | Artej: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=plasma-desktop |
| 21:14.44 | tosky | only sid |
| 21:15.51 | BlaXpirit | lol I just realized |
| 21:15.52 | Artej | tosky: it's clusterfuck actualy, some packages in testing and higher are 5 and other are 5 |
| 21:15.55 | Artej | *4 |
| 21:16.07 | BlaXpirit | for me Plasma 5 has no advantage at all over Unity |
| 21:16.14 | Artej | ? |
| 21:16.41 | BlaXpirit | its Icon-only task manager is as limited as in Unity |
| 21:16.48 | Artej | tosky: https://www.dropbox.com/s/u3nll5oig3prmj9/IMG_20150712_241255460_HDR.jpg?dl=0 testing/experimental) |
| 21:16.54 | BlaXpirit | and I don't use plasmoids |
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| 21:17.30 | tosky | Artej: testing has no Plasma 5 yet; there are some Frameworks packages (which are libraries and co-installable with kdelibs4, no overlaps) |
| 21:17.31 | Artej | BlaXpirit: it doesn't work for me, so I can't see for myself yet |
| 21:17.31 | Artej | xD |
| 21:18.07 | Artej | tosky: meta packages are 5 iirc, as I understand kde5 is "released" |
| 21:19.27 | Artej | I know because "dist upgrade" wouldn't upgrade kde and I somewhat forced it xD |
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| 21:21.48 | Artej | btw is it normal for kde 5 to show battery sign on desktop? |
| 21:21.53 | Artej | windows 10 does that too |
| 21:22.04 | tosky | Artej: if you have experimental packages, well, that's another story |
| 21:22.53 | Artej | tosky: plasma-desktop is from unstable and libkde5 from experimental |
| 21:23.29 | tosky | Artej: there is no libkde5 |
| 21:23.46 | Artej | tosky: something like that, had to install as fix |
| 21:24.03 | tosky | Artej: I would disable experimental and wait few days until things settle down |
| 21:24.16 | Artej | meh, have windows for work) |
| 21:24.24 | Artej | I will look at things) |
| 21:25.03 | Artej | somehow I can't help liking new stuff xD for a few days at least |
| 21:25.20 | Artej | "proud" owner of windows vista xD |
| 21:25.57 | Artej | alas used it for like 3 days |
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| 21:29.32 | Artej | idk why I am using debian, but I like it more then others because I got used to it |
| 21:30.37 | Artej | I tried gentoo and arch when I was young xD |
| 21:30.47 | Artej | I know I won't use them any more |
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| 21:35.35 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys , in the system settings when i attempt to change timezone , it asks me for a password , neither root password or my user password is working , anyhelp ? |
| 21:35.46 | Artej | ShalokShalom: why is KaOS trying to look like macos ? |
| 21:36.21 | ShalokShalom | o.O |
| 21:36.41 | ShalokShalom | if anything want to look like aqua, then plasma :P |
| 21:37.12 | ShalokShalom | nor the top or the bottom panel/dock is the same |
| 21:37.32 | ShalokShalom | what looks similar ? |
| 21:37.45 | Artej | it looks like you make it look, but on screenshots from official site there is mac launchbar |
| 21:37.48 | Artej | mac colors |
| 21:38.00 | Artej | bar at top |
| 21:38.13 | Artej | idk where are window controlls by default |
| 21:38.26 | ShalokShalom | i guess you mean the user screenshots ? |
| 21:38.46 | ShalokShalom | cobra-the-joker: both, user and root work anywhere else ? |
| 21:38.49 | Artej | http://kaosx.us/ three screens on top |
| 21:38.56 | ShalokShalom | please try a sudo command and su first |
| 21:39.01 | Artej | cobra-the-joker: ad yourself to sudoers |
| 21:39.13 | Artej | open visudo and see if you are there |
| 21:40.05 | ShalokShalom | very first picture with the strand is default |
| 21:40.16 | ShalokShalom | others are custom pics |
| 21:40.32 | cobra-the-joker | Artej: i am already a sudoer , i just sudo systemsettings5 and it worked |
| 21:40.35 | ShalokShalom | default panel is on the bottom, no panel on the top |
| 21:40.49 | ShalokShalom | cobra-the-joker: mixed libs, i guess ? |
| 21:40.59 | ShalokShalom | cobra-the-joker: so you get maybe 2 different kwallets etc |
| 21:40.59 | cobra-the-joker | probably |
| 21:41.04 | ShalokShalom | yep |
| 21:41.13 | cobra-the-joker | 2 kwallets , probably |
| 21:41.19 | cobra-the-joker | how can i check |
| 21:41.34 | ShalokShalom | very most distros mix 4 with 5 |
| 21:41.34 | Artej | ShalokShalom: why people want their os look like mac xD |
| 21:41.44 | ShalokShalom | Artej: idk, ask them :P |
| 21:42.00 | ShalokShalom | cobra-the-joker: question is, how to solve |
| 21:42.08 | ShalokShalom | ask maybe in your distros channel |
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| 21:42.52 | Artej | ShalokShalom: win xp style for the win ) |
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| 21:43.34 | ShalokShalom | Artej: look and feel packages will help plasma to get on the top :) |
| 21:43.42 | ShalokShalom | imho |
| 21:44.08 | Artej | ShalokShalom: or neckbeard style with smug animegirls 8/10 |
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| 21:44.21 | ShalokShalom | :P |
| 21:44.31 | ShalokShalom | post your own style ;) |
| 21:46.35 | ShalokShalom | plasma is all about customation |
| 21:47.11 | Artej | btw why are all community chanels without ops |
| 21:48.05 | ShalokShalom | maybe because they did not take op priv. by default ? |
| 21:49.03 | Artej | they are surprisingly quiet for that |
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| 21:49.36 | Artej | nobody is spamming any advertisments and stuff |
| 21:49.44 | ShalokShalom | jo |
| 21:50.02 | ShalokShalom | at all: i never see any ad in 3 years here |
| 21:50.04 | ShalokShalom | (IRC) |
| 21:50.31 | Artej | you are not downloading chinese porn from rizon xD |
| 21:50.42 | ShalokShalom | haha yeah |
| 21:50.54 | ShalokShalom | with community channel, you mean that one with ## ? |
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| 21:51.34 | ShalokShalom | the ads in IRC are mostly called meanings :P |
| 21:51.36 | Artej | I mean chats people created for FOSS and other stuff |
| 21:51.53 | ShalokShalom | i see |
| 21:52.00 | ShalokShalom | so whole freenode and more ? |
| 21:52.07 | Artej | yep) |
| 21:52.19 | Artej | 450 people idle in #kde |
| 21:52.23 | Artej | it must mean something) |
| 21:52.43 | hussam | KDE's had this for years http://www.neowin.net/news/ear-trumpet-a-windows-10-audio-utility-worth-checking-out |
| 21:53.55 | ShalokShalom | one more thing, which they copy from us :P |
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| 21:54.22 | Artej | is this just a mixer? |
| 21:54.39 | ShalokShalom | yes |
| 21:54.49 | Artej | I used veromix for a while) |
| 21:54.51 | hussam | Artej: it lets you control the volume of running audio apps (kmix does this already) |
| 21:55.17 | Artej | veromix plasmid open 100% of time ) |
| 21:55.22 | ShalokShalom | and see the comments |
| 21:55.31 | ShalokShalom | a mixer was already there as well before |
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| 21:56.05 | hussam | ah |
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| 22:10.16 | kadoban | Is there any kind of guide somewhere for how to get a microphone to work in general? I can never figure it out, I swear. I end up spending forever messing around in alsamixer and none of it makes sense, and I never see anything useful in kmix? |
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| 22:12.11 | BlaXpirit | kadoban, why alsamixer |
| 22:12.22 | BlaXpirit | i can understand pavucontrol |
| 22:12.24 | BlaXpirit | but this? |
| 22:12.44 | BlaXpirit | microphone is supposed to just work |
| 22:12.54 | BlaXpirit | if it doesn't work, you need troubleshooting, not just sound settings |
| 22:13.45 | kadoban | BlaXpirit: Never heard of it, alsamixer used to be the old way. I know it's worked before on recentish kde/linux. I'll try your suggestion, thanks. |
| 22:14.01 | BlaXpirit | kadoban, do u use pulseaudio? |
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| 22:14.35 | kadoban | I believe so (but I understand it not at all essentially; I've rarely ever understood sound at all on linux I'm afraid) |
| 22:14.44 | BlaXpirit | definitely check out pavucontrol |
| 22:14.57 | BlaXpirit | hopefully you haven't broken everything with alsamixer |
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| 22:15.40 | kadoban | Thankfully this time I didn't do much, and I just undid it. |
| 22:15.55 | ShalokShalom | kadoban: systemsettings > multimedia > put your mic to the top (if its an usb device) |
| 22:16.17 | BlaXpirit | yeah, that's very important too |
| 22:16.26 | BlaXpirit | phonon settings or whatever |
| 22:16.29 | ShalokShalom | which is a great bug, imho |
| 22:16.35 | ShalokShalom | since a longer time :) |
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| 22:16.59 | ShalokShalom | plug in an usb audio device > put it on top of the list, without manual invention |
| 22:17.24 | kadoban | Hmm, I only have one "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo" in each category in there, I guess that means I'm potentially good? I'm just using my mic port, a crappy plugin headset, not USB or anything. |
| 22:17.47 | BlaXpirit | kadoban, very unusual that it doesn't work |
| 22:17.50 | ShalokShalom | ok, thats fine then |
| 22:17.51 | BlaXpirit | maybe it's broken? |
| 22:17.58 | BlaXpirit | maybe you just need to unmute it? |
| 22:18.12 | ShalokShalom | on the headphone itself ? |
| 22:18.15 | BlaXpirit | maybe physical mute button on mic |
| 22:18.21 | ShalokShalom | yeah |
| 22:18.24 | kadoban | Hmm, pavucontrol definitely looks useful. I see something happening on talking. I'll play a few minutes and see if I can figure it out. Naw, no physical mute button. Brb |
| 22:18.29 | BlaXpirit | or maybe unmute in kmix, maybe in pavucontrol |
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| 22:31.18 | BlaXpirit | sup, kadoban? |
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| 22:44.05 | kadoban | BlaXpirit: Not sure if the mic itself is busted ⦠the levels it's giving out seem to sometimes go to nothing, heh. Messing a bit more ⦠|
| 22:49.37 | kadoban | BlaXpirit: Any idea of a simple program that can record playback? I can't tell if the volume levels I'm seeing in pavucontrol are actually real or noise. I thought krec used to exist, but I don't see it or in package manager ⦠|
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| 22:51.32 | BlaXpirit | dont know |
| 22:54.57 | thisischrys | sure |
| 22:54.58 | thisischrys | use kaos |
| 22:55.08 | thisischrys | if you hate even the OPTION of running 32 bit app |
| 22:55.10 | thisischrys | s |
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| 22:59.06 | kadoban | BlaXpirit: Thanks for the help. I think it might be working, possibly XD |
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