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| 01:15.31 | LanDi | why when changing the icon theme, dolphin still used the old one? |
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| 01:29.47 | tret | LanDi: did you try to logout and login again? |
| 01:30.04 | tret | this might fix it |
| 01:30.17 | tret | it's like a reboot it has the same effect |
| 01:30.39 | LanDi | tret, yes, but the folders which have preview of images does not change from the oxygen theme... |
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| 01:31.50 | tret | i cannot help you further |
| 01:32.17 | LanDi | ok |
| 01:33.12 | tret | i cannot help you further that's as far as my knowledge goes |
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| 06:28.47 | dorvan | hi all |
| 06:29.50 | dorvan | what about running kde5 and graphic server standalone? or in a chroot? or in a container? |
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| 07:05.30 | peetaur | Hi. for a while now, konsole doesn't let me drag tabs to detach or attach them. Is this a bug or some changed way it works? |
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| 07:06.03 | peetaur | Qt: 4.8.7 KDE Development Platform: 4.14.10 |
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| 07:20.37 | KNRO | I ran a recent update and now plasma no longer works, it's all blank |
| 07:20.51 | KNRO | the only thing that works is "Konversation" which I typing this from |
| 07:21.02 | KNRO | and terminal |
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| 09:08.02 | ShalokShalom | The plasma colour`s effect in many cases on my browsers (Qupzilla, Firefox, Chrome) |
| 09:08.20 | ShalokShalom | Is there a way, to let them use only their default layout for colours ? |
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| 09:29.13 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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| 09:31.36 | liviu__ | hello |
| 09:32.32 | liviu__ | why does ksystemlog crashes on kde 5.3.2;it does not on xfce4 |
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| 09:50.46 | ShalokShalom | liviu__: can you start ksystemlog from commandline please ? |
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| 10:16.08 | leszek | hi |
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| 10:17.27 | leszek | I am looking for a command that I want to execute with a option like dolphin --caption "Dolphin Root" with kdesu and kdesudo. Though kdesudo 'dolphin --caption "Dolphin Root"' is working fine the same command with kdesu fails. Anyone a hint |
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| 10:33.52 | leszek | ah ok I missed that both kdesu and kdesudo have a -c flag. This works now :) |
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| 12:15.33 | w0rp | Has anyone ever noticed that you can't use your power button to turn your computer off when your mouse is moved into the expose thing in a corner of the screen? |
| 12:16.20 | w0rp | It's only really a minor issue for me because I have a mouse on the side of my sofa, and the mouse moves to the corner when I get up now and again, and then pressing the power switch to turn my desktop off doesn't work. |
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| 12:20.04 | BlaXpirit | o.o |
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| 12:27.06 | tret | w0rp this sounds like a bug |
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| 12:38.28 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
| 12:39.52 | w0rp | It's the kind of thing that's hard to notice. |
| 12:40.16 | w0rp | I don't imagine many people have their desktop plugged into their TV all the time with a mouse on an arm, running KDE. |
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| 12:45.33 | tret | if you want you should send a bug report |
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| 12:53.53 | w0rp | Yeah, I'll send one. |
| 12:54.12 | w0rp | Is there an official name for the expose thing? |
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| 13:05.17 | JyZyXEL | what is a good place to store links to important filesystem locations? |
| 13:05.35 | JyZyXEL | so that they can be accessed with minimal effort |
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| 13:06.21 | JyZyXEL | some kind of menu that contains clickable links to all of them would be cool |
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| 13:08.07 | Sho_ | JyZyXEL: https://blogs.kde.org/2015/06/04/folder-view-panel-popups-are-list-views-again might be good for you |
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| 13:13.53 | w0rp | I keep most of my places for quick access in the Dolphin "Places" panel. |
| 13:14.52 | w0rp | The "Recently Accessed" part also helps you find some things quickly. |
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| 13:16.13 | JyZyXEL | oh yeah, you can actually modify the places panel |
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| 13:21.22 | Sho_ | there's also a kioslave for listing the contents of the places list, so you can even put the places into one of those panel folders i linked |
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| 13:24.06 | JyZyXEL | there is a panel widget called "Shelf" that can display "places" in a popup menu on the panel |
| 13:26.36 | Sho_ | Not familiar with it |
| 13:26.48 | Sho_ | Oh, I guess you're still on Plasma 4 and that's that Lancelot subcomponent |
| 13:27.08 | JyZyXEL | this is going away in plasma 5? |
| 13:27.21 | Sho_ | Lancelot hasn't been ported to Plasma 5 so far, no |
| 13:27.46 | Sho_ | But as mentioned there are other ways to get a popup with the places there |
| 13:27.51 | JyZyXEL | guess im better off using the Folder widget then |
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| 13:30.52 | w0rp | Has anyone ever noticed an issue with a little bit of a pause after starting the desktop? There's a 10 second period or so where I can't open any windows. |
| 13:31.00 | w0rp | After the desktop is open. |
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| 13:31.23 | Sho_ | I seem to remember there was a problem with playing of the login sound blocking things on some systems |
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| 16:21.06 | noisykeyboard | Hey |
| 16:21.20 | noisykeyboard | How do I set the clock in the panel to be in 24 hour time? |
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| 16:23.40 | MichaelTunnell | ok so can someone explain to me...what is the point of KDE having both KDiff3 and Kompare? |
| 16:23.58 | MichaelTunnell | they are both official apps on the website and they both perform the same job...so why? |
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| 16:26.32 | MichaelTunnell | KDE is both fantastic and broken...and I dont mean 4 -> 5. KDE fundamentally has a lot of amazing tools and projects and then terrible decisions are made that make them not worth using, Kontact is a great example of that. |
| 16:26.49 | BlaXpirit | hi |
| 16:26.54 | BlaXpirit | yes |
| 16:26.55 | noisykeyboard | hi |
| 16:27.06 | MichaelTunnell | I am really really liking KDE but there are times where I see an app that KDE offers that looks so awesome and then it just ultimately is disappointing |
| 16:27.17 | BlaXpirit | that... rarely happens |
| 16:27.48 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: what rarely happens? duplicate applications? |
| 16:27.58 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, terrible decisions |
| 16:28.22 | BlaXpirit | kde has been going back and forth ultimately not advancing since the kde 4 release |
| 16:28.29 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: it has many times...4 for example had terrible design decisions pretty much everywhere |
| 16:28.43 | MichaelTunnell | so glad the design group was made...I might join it actually |
| 16:28.47 | BlaXpirit | k |
| 16:29.19 | Sho_ | "not advancing since the KDE 4 release" is really nonsense, fwiw |
| 16:29.37 | BlaXpirit | well i mean kde 4 has been advancing |
| 16:29.46 | BlaXpirit | but in general the advancements are minimal |
| 16:29.58 | BlaXpirit | because it's like a buzz wave |
| 16:30.00 | MichaelTunnell | I also think KDE's naming schemes of applications are at times lame, confusing, or just downright stupid |
| 16:30.03 | BlaXpirit | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.33 | Sho_ | There's been a huge amount of work on solving a lot of hard problems since the time of the KDE 4 release |
| 16:30.45 | BlaXpirit | yup, kde 4 is amazing now |
| 16:30.46 | MichaelTunnell | Kontact being the application that organizes all the information management makes no sense...when there is KOrganizer that is really a calendar app...so confusing and broken |
| 16:30.58 | Sho_ | e.g. network management, multiscreen handling and hotplugging, power management and device peering |
| 16:31.33 | MichaelTunnell | Sho_: fundamentally KDE is amazing and I am very close to totally leaving GNOME...makes me feel dirty to say that but it is close. |
| 16:32.10 | MichaelTunnell | there are times KDE impresses me so much that when it can't do something that seems like a natural progression it becomes disappointing...it is kind of like KDE is so good it makes me expect more and then get let down by my own expectations |
| 16:32.13 | Sho_ | There's a lot of new features in Plasma 5 too at the shell level, e.g. things like https://blogs.kde.org/2015/04/25/building-new-pillars-activities-and-kpeople-plasma-53 |
| 16:32.42 | Sho_ | And while it's not really "advancement", let's not forget we did that while once again rewriting 85% of the desktop from scratch in nine months |
| 16:32.52 | tret | kde4 changed stuff just to be different than kde3 |
| 16:32.55 | tret | :p |
| 16:32.58 | MichaelTunnell | Sho_: what are the chances that I could submit package name changes to KDE applications and they be even remotely considered? I want the naming scheme to make sense and stop being so confusing |
| 16:33.00 | BlaXpirit | and kde 5 did it again |
| 16:33.09 | Sho_ | Because Plasma 5 started with a black screen and white panel stripe with nothing on it, and was basically put back together from there with relatively little code reuse |
| 16:33.16 | BlaXpirit | and people didn't learn that it's not stable software and just plopped it into most distros |
| 16:33.22 | Sho_ | And kwin was ported to xcb and so on and so forth |
| 16:33.40 | Sho_ | KDE has never been more productive at any time of its history, really, in terms of work output |
| 16:33.40 | MichaelTunnell | being different than before is fine if it is improvement and so far it looks as though it is mostly improvement...the Windows Rules getting better is AWESOME |
| 16:33.45 | Sho_ | The problems have scaled up, though |
| 16:34.02 | Sho_ | As in, back then, doing things like power management and network management just ... wasn't done |
| 16:34.02 | BlaXpirit | i mean, you aren't lying |
| 16:34.08 | Sho_ | There's a lot more areas to cover these days |
| 16:34.10 | MichaelTunnell | I LOVE KWIN...that is easilly the best window manager on any DE ever |
| 16:34.17 | Sho_ | And it's getting more - kwin is going to be our display server soon |
| 16:34.22 | tret | gnome3 tried to be different than gnome2 |
| 16:34.32 | tret | gnome3 has poor task switching |
| 16:34.41 | tret | everybody left gnome |
| 16:34.41 | BlaXpirit | well plasma 5 has poor task switching |
| 16:34.59 | MichaelTunnell | Sho_: whoa! when you say display server...as in wayland or display manager as in kdm? |
| 16:35.29 | MichaelTunnell | tret: gnome 3 is much improved and I really like it but KWIN dominates Mutter |
| 16:35.31 | tret | i was a gnome2 user |
| 16:35.35 | tret | now i use kde |
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| 16:36.42 | MichaelTunnell | I did the same but went back to GNOME when it got good 3.6+ and now I am back on KDE because well...mostly KWin |
| 16:36.44 | Sho_ | MichaelTunnell: Kontact just embeds KOrganizer |
| 16:37.21 | MichaelTunnell | Sho_: I know...which is why it is confusing. I didnt even know Kontact was what it was until I was googling plugins for KOrganizer |
| 16:37.22 | Sho_ | MichaelTunnell: Wayland @ Display server |
| 16:37.24 | Sho_ | sorry for lag |
| 16:37.43 | MichaelTunnell | guess what I thought Kontact was . . . a Kontacts app but no thats KAddressBook |
| 16:37.59 | MichaelTunnell | the naming scheme in KDE is just confusing and overall poor |
| 16:38.07 | Sho_ | MichaelTunnell: Package name changes: There is value in established bands, and emotional bonds to them, so it's hard to change + it's not like it's the first time this has come up so a lot of people will also be tired of hearing about it |
| 16:38.43 | BlaXpirit | tumbleweed rolls by https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345081 |
| 16:38.46 | MichaelTunnell | yea but I have solutions...emotional bonds to bad names sounds like a terrible reason to keep the bad names |
| 16:39.27 | Sho_ | MichaelTunnell: Yeah, but name changes have associated costs, too |
| 16:39.38 | Sho_ | MichaelTunnell: I'm just answering your question wrt/ what to expect :) |
| 16:39.39 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, the names are like a recognizable trademark |
| 16:39.45 | BlaXpirit | many of them are quite clever |
| 16:39.51 | BlaXpirit | this is not important, anyway |
| 16:41.08 | MichaelTunnell | KOrganizer is essentially a Calendar app...so ask someone who doesnt know what KDE names everything "What is KDE's Calendar app called? "I'd expect it to be Kalendar" . . . "Nope, it is KOrganizer" . . ."What is the Personal Organizer app called?" . . . "KOrganizer?" . . . "Nope, Kontact" . . . "What is the Contacts app called?" . . . "well hell I don't know anymore." . . . "KAddressBook" |
| 16:41.32 | MichaelTunnell | Sho_: I know I just want to explain why the names are so confusing and ultimately are bad |
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| 16:42.18 | MichaelTunnell | there are a lot of cool names actually like the money management app has an awesome name...Skrooge is fantastic naming |
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| 16:43.50 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: application names are important to new users because KDE offers alternatives to everything so they will be trying a TON of new apps all at once. The names should help them learn what they are for not make no sense at all |
| 16:44.06 | BlaXpirit | okay |
| 16:44.15 | BlaXpirit | i've never used any of these apps |
| 16:44.26 | tret | i use konsole |
| 16:44.36 | BlaXpirit | not much point to them nowadays |
| 16:44.43 | MichaelTunnell | KDE4 -> 5 is actually a very optimum time to change them since everything else is changing, it shouldnt be that much of an impact in the long run |
| 16:44.44 | Sho_ | Most launcher menus will either display them using generic names or have a description byline under the app name |
| 16:44.55 | Sho_ | There is no KDE 5 |
| 16:45.10 | Sho_ | There's a Plasma Desktop 5, which has nothing to do with the applications |
| 16:45.14 | BlaXpirit | why would you use organizer apps on your desktop computer if you can have them always available in your pocket |
| 16:45.29 | MichaelTunnell | Sho_: yea that is more confusing to people...but I didnt say KDE 5 on purpose |
| 16:45.32 | Sho_ | And Kontact is virtually un-renamable |
| 16:45.34 | BlaXpirit | Sho_, let people say what they wanna say. we all know what this means |
| 16:46.00 | Sho_ | BlaXpirit: It's useful in this case because the correct naming explains why "the change to 5" has no bearing on renaming apps |
| 16:46.04 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: because KOrganizer connects to server systems like CalDav and Google Calendar so you are always synced with those as well |
| 16:46.28 | Sho_ | BlaXpirit: Which is indeed why the naming scheme was changed, because it closer reflects that organization |
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| 16:46.39 | BlaXpirit | do you expect people to say Plasma 5, KDE Frameworks 5 and applications that use KDE Frameworks 5? |
| 16:46.45 | BlaXpirit | no, let's just say KDE 5, goddammit |
| 16:47.17 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: I agree overall but I dont mind the splitup of names...I usually give up and say KDE |
| 16:47.19 | Sho_ | Yup, I do expect that, and a lot of people already do, because it makes sense and makes all sorts of conversations a lot easier |
| 16:47.32 | MichaelTunnell | KDEF5 or KDE F5 or KDE KF5 |
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| 16:47.49 | BlaXpirit | writing an uncountable amount of letters is easier than writing 4 characters,. sure |
| 16:47.58 | Sho_ | People don't have problems talking about OS X, iOS and iWorks versions - all by Apple - separately, either |
| 16:47.58 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, that's just a small part of it |
| 16:48.00 | Sho_ | It's pretty natural |
| 16:48.16 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: I know |
| 16:48.36 | Sho_ | It'll be even more useful when Plasma Desktop isn't the only Plasma shell anymore |
| 16:48.52 | tret | the best feature of kde is the configurability best in any operating system |
| 16:49.16 | BlaXpirit | sure |
| 16:49.37 | MichaelTunnell | the split up makes sense for support of different things and such...hell I know people who have been KDE users for years who didnt even know that the desktop shell was called Plasma...they had absolutely no idea. So yes the name split makes sense but the part that bothers me is when I am talking about absolutely all of it as in the KDE project itself and the current stage of the project. I dont understand why KDE5 is wrong at |
| 16:49.38 | MichaelTunnell | that point |
| 16:49.55 | BlaXpirit | ^this |
| 16:50.23 | Sho_ | You will soon when there's more products and the differentiation between Plasma Desktop and <other things> becomes useful |
| 16:50.42 | MichaelTunnell | Sho_: but will they still be made by KDE or 3rd Parties? |
| 16:50.56 | Sho_ | MichaelTunnell: Let's say I'd watch for announcements at Akademy |
| 16:51.08 | MichaelTunnell | Akademy . . . see that is a clever name |
| 16:51.34 | MichaelTunnell | unless it is a news site, but if it is a educational site or something then fantastic |
| 16:52.35 | Sho_ | it's the annual developer and user conference |
| 16:53.10 | MichaelTunnell | oh ok thats cool because konferences do often have educational aspects |
| 16:53.20 | MichaelTunnell | see what I did there ^ :) |
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| 16:55.41 | Sho_ | heh |
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| 17:08.22 | BlaXpirit | hah, looking at source code for task manager |
| 17:08.29 | BlaXpirit | everywhere things like "iconsOnly ? 1 : plasmoid.configuration.groupingStrategy" |
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| 17:08.45 | BlaXpirit | basically "screw people who want to configure icons-only task manager" |
| 17:09.30 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: yea but even if you could configure it, in KDE4 it was ALMOST good enough to be a dock replacement...I gave up and just went to Plank |
| 17:09.35 | BlaXpirit | also makes me wonder: if they work from the same codebase, why not complete the merge |
| 17:09.48 | MichaelTunnell | to be fair I dont use the traditional panel layout so it could be that |
| 17:10.43 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, no, seriously, kde 4 icons-only task manager is unmatched |
| 17:11.28 | BlaXpirit | anything else at all just kills my productivity |
| 17:13.40 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: it totally depends on the layout of the user..so for example I made KDE look like GNOME :) |
| 17:13.45 | MichaelTunnell | I know...blasphemy |
| 17:13.50 | BlaXpirit | I kinda made KDE look like Unity |
| 17:13.54 | BlaXpirit | (except usable) |
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| 17:15.07 | MichaelTunnell | my GNOME styled KDE . . . http://imgur.com/a/9viMg (the left dock looks more like Unity though because centering on the panel and icons only is not good |
| 17:15.56 | MichaelTunnell | I actually redid it so it looks different now but still the same idea overall but with Plank now |
| 17:18.11 | BlaXpirit | quite nice |
| 17:18.23 | BlaXpirit | how do you handle multiple windows of one app? |
| 17:18.43 | BlaXpirit | also: why filezilla??? |
| 17:19.32 | LjL | MichaelTunnell: centering used to work fine on my KDE3 (although i used it differently, for a centered taskbar that expanded with more windows), then KDE4 broke it and never fixed it :\ |
| 17:22.13 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: plank groups them just like icons only |
| 17:22.24 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, what happens when you click on it |
| 17:22.26 | MichaelTunnell | LjL: :( |
| 17:22.48 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: pretty sure it opens them all or gives a list to choose hold on I'll check |
| 17:22.56 | BlaXpirit | that's important to me |
| 17:23.27 | MichaelTunnell | one click it minimizes all windows and then restores them |
| 17:23.30 | MichaelTunnell | left click I mean |
| 17:23.35 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, that's great |
| 17:23.37 | MichaelTunnell | right click gives you a list to choose the window |
| 17:23.44 | BlaXpirit | plasma 5 can't do that |
| 17:23.58 | MichaelTunnell | :( |
| 17:24.08 | MichaelTunnell | middle click the icon to open a new instance of the app quickly |
| 17:24.21 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, so is this kde 5 you're using? and plank is not part of it? |
| 17:24.57 | BlaXpirit | I assume I can't obtain something like this http://i.imgur.com/oz36HOL.png with plank |
| 17:25.00 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: I am on KDE4 the screenshot I gave was KDE4 as well but Plank was not in the screenshot |
| 17:25.17 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, so is that kde's icons-only task manager? |
| 17:25.27 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: yes |
| 17:25.44 | BlaXpirit | oh, so you were talking about it, not about plank |
| 17:25.58 | MichaelTunnell | but you can actually make Plank sit ontop of a KDE Panel and you can make the background transparent so it looks good |
| 17:26.26 | MichaelTunnell | but it wont resize the rest of the panel since they are independent |
| 17:26.38 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: no I am talking about plank |
| 17:26.41 | MichaelTunnell | for the functionality |
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| 17:27.13 | MichaelTunnell | I have plank right now |
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| 17:27.22 | MichaelTunnell | I can take a screenshot of what I have now if you want |
| 17:27.40 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, if it's not a big bother |
| 17:27.48 | BlaXpirit | i'm gonna install plank and see what happens |
| 17:27.50 | MichaelTunnell | yea sure no prob |
| 17:30.11 | BlaXpirit | uh it really doesn't look like i can combine plank with another panel |
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| 17:30.58 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: you cant attach it no...but you can "faux-combine" |
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| 17:31.13 | BlaXpirit | I understand but don 't see how to faux-combine |
| 17:31.28 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: |
| 17:31.33 | BlaXpirit | plank-config appears redundant..? |
| 17:31.36 | MichaelTunnell | http://i.imgur.com/hQzrnrg.png |
| 17:32.11 | MichaelTunnell | plank-config is the app for the settings...you can choose to turn off the settings in the dock so the icon is not always forced to be there but still be able to launch just the settings |
| 17:32.40 | MichaelTunnell | you can change the background to transparent so it just sits over the panel and makes it look like it is attached |
| 17:33.01 | BlaXpirit | plank-config looks much less flexible though. now that i entered plank->settings, it seems realistic to combine panels |
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| 17:33.23 | MichaelTunnell | hmm |
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| 17:38.03 | BlaXpirit | yeah.. it's not really worth it |
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| 17:38.36 | BlaXpirit | even in plasma 5 icons-only task manager is more advanced |
| 17:38.42 | BlaXpirit | just that this one has a saner default |
| 17:39.22 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, I can't pin plank's top to a certain position, i can only pin its center to a certain position |
| 17:40.48 | BlaXpirit | also don't understand why you chose to use it with KDE |
| 17:43.49 | MichaelTunnell | BlaXpirit: you can but requires config editing...there is an offset control in the configs |
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| 17:45.34 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, offset is ignored unless center setting is used |
| 17:45.40 | MichaelTunnell | you can align it center, left or right...then you can force the offset to put it wherever |
| 17:45.58 | MichaelTunnell | ahh that could be an issue indeed |
| 17:46.15 | MichaelTunnell | but your screen looked like you wanted it centered anyway |
| 17:47.32 | MichaelTunnell | but I use Plank because I want the GNOME Dash style dock not Unity so I dont do any combining stuff |
| 17:48.06 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, I don't understand what that means |
| 17:48.16 | MichaelTunnell | icons only would be GREAT for a Unity feel but it sucks for GNOME feel |
| 17:48.49 | BlaXpirit | MichaelTunnell, but it's the same thing |
| 17:49.20 | MichaelTunnell | its not the same actually |
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| 17:49.21 | MichaelTunnell | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrNc-MTIkvo |
| 17:49.25 | BlaXpirit | (at least in kde 4) i can't think of anything icons-only task manager can't do that this one can |
| 17:49.54 | MichaelTunnell | it cant center and resize itself based on the contents of the dock...I have to control the size manually and that is awful |
| 17:50.10 | MichaelTunnell | so it kind of looks terrible |
| 17:50.25 | BlaXpirit | oh yeah? possible that this is the case |
| 17:50.48 | MichaelTunnell | that is essentially the only reason it bothers me to not have a real dock |
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| 17:51.59 | BlaXpirit | you're right |
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| 18:00.54 | Marquel | morning. if i do have a question with akonadi/kontact-4 - where should i ask? |
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| 18:04.20 | MichaelTunnell | Marquel: here is fine |
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| 18:05.04 | regedit | hello |
| 18:05.36 | regedit | oh whoops, need to reboot.. |
| 18:05.54 | Marquel | well then... |
| 18:07.17 | Marquel | my akonadi instance keeps forgetting about owncloud calendars. i have to reconfigure them more or less regularly and now it has managed to regard one calendar (shared with me by someone else) as empty though this is certainly not the case. this is ... kind of making akonadi unusable for me. |
| 18:07.29 | tret | Marquel: ask here if anyone knows it will be answered |
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| 18:09.46 | Marquel | tret: see above. |
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| 21:39.19 | arvut | can the windowborders on a program be set to always off upon launch of program? |
| 21:39.39 | arvut | I always have to do alt+F3 m+n to remove them manually |
| 21:40.09 | MichaelTunnell | arvut: yes you can do that with Window Rules |
| 21:40.19 | arvut | found it, thanks |
| 21:40.27 | arvut | I like my konsoles like that |
| 21:42.20 | MichaelTunnell | arvut: I like most of my applications like that if they are something I use a lot...I dont need a titlebar all the time for stuff I am always using |
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| 21:42.44 | MichaelTunnell | I just checked...all of mine are currently off for all of the active apps :) |
| 21:43.11 | MichaelTunnell | dont need the titlebars really anyway...hold alt and click anywhere and move the window |
| 21:43.14 | MichaelTunnell | no prob |
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| 22:21.19 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys , can i make a bootable usb using K3b ? |
| 22:21.26 | cobra-the-joker | i have the ISO |
| 22:24.55 | MichaelTunnell | cobra-the-joker: I dont think so |
| 22:25.02 | MichaelTunnell | maybe but I dont think so |
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| 22:26.51 | mohammad-ghasemi | hi, I installed debian with xfce. I want to try kde. which packages should I install? |
| 22:27.50 | kmh | There is a wiki page with many information: https://wiki.debian.org/KDE |
| 22:28.04 | mohammad-ghasemi | thanks |
| 22:28.12 | kmh | You can find there also information about which packages you need to install |
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| 22:33.20 | MichaelTunnell | if I want to submit a feature request for "Present Windows" desktop effect is there a package for that is that just done through Plasma? |
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| 22:37.50 | excalibr | In kde5 plasma what language widgets are written in? |
| 22:38.47 | excalibr | I have some ideas for widgets which I plan to write. Hoping someone could point me to a right direction |
| 22:39.55 | excalibr | is plasmoid and widget essentially the same thing? |
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| 22:48.50 | mohammad-ghasemi | kmh yes thanks I found it |
| 22:48.54 | tosky | excalibr: QML and javascript https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma5/QML2/GettingStarted |
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| 22:49.09 | tosky | MichaelTunnell: I think it's kwin |
| 22:49.40 | kmh | mohammad-ghasemi, you're welcome! |
| 22:49.57 | NerdWorld | Can somebody offer a suggestion for KMail 4.14.10? It's not setting date header in outgoing mail. |
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| 22:52.22 | holgersson | Hello everyone! For a short time KMail struggles with my ~/.mail/ directory. It contains subdirectories with maildirs, partly created by kmail (or akonadi?) itself. I'm running KMail 4.14.10 @ Gentoo (~amd64 => x86_64). |
| 22:53.15 | holgersson | ^ Err, I forgot: Now KMail doesn't show any folder beside the defaults (inbox, outbox, trash, ..) for the maildir. The files are still there (and not empty). |
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| 22:58.40 | excalibr | hi MichaelTunnell |
| 22:58.54 | excalibr | tosky, ty. Will have a look at it |
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| 23:55.46 | holgersson | As a workaround I moved the old data, created a new dir for the local files and imported the old stuff as "kmail dir". works, but is quiet ugly. |
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