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| 01:24.52 | excalibr | How do you send custom notification in Plasma 5? Plasma 5 way |
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| 06:46.25 | galvao | Greetings. I'm trying to start using KMail. I've imported a very large quantity of e-mails from Thunderbird and now there are 2 KMail "processes" stuck: Mail Filter Agent and Syncing Folder '2008' (which is a previously archived folder in TB). They are both stuck at 0% for a long time. What should I do? |
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| 06:46.53 | galvao | KMail is 4.14.9 |
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| 06:49.41 | valorie | galvao: if you get no answer here, you might try #kontact |
| 06:49.50 | galvao | valorie: ty |
| 06:50.30 | valorie | good luck! |
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| 08:40.02 | Caterpillar | I need to replace kdenlive with another software, due too many crashes. Which software would you suggest me? |
| 08:40.24 | BlaXpirit | kdenlive |
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| 08:40.57 | Caterpillar | nice try |
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| 09:39.42 | greyBoss | . |
| 09:40.48 | greyBoss | anyone to explain me how to start building plasma on a newly complied linux |
| 09:41.14 | greyBoss | if there is any link or a book about it |
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| 09:44.06 | maol4_ | HELLO |
| 09:44.22 | maol4_ | i want win2000 like on linux. will KDE work like that? |
| 09:44.26 | greyBoss | maol4_ hi |
| 09:44.29 | maol4_ | how much HDD space kde steals? |
| 09:44.36 | maol4_ | how to check if i have kde installed already? |
| 09:45.07 | maol4_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.07 | maol4_ | can i destroy that? |
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| 09:46.51 | maol4_ | ? |
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| 09:52.22 | maol4_ | how about my questions i asked earlier? |
| 09:52.32 | B1nny | maol4_: uh.. |
| 09:52.41 | kiranos | lol |
| 09:52.43 | tosky | maol4_: this is not proper IRC netiquette |
| 09:52.43 | B1nny | Tip: nobody will help you now |
| 09:52.46 | maol4_ | i asked waited but you ignored me |
| 09:52.48 | bcooksley | maol4_: please don't highlight the channel like that |
| 09:52.49 | BlaXpirit | ban pls |
| 09:52.54 | peterix | the hell do you want from me? |
| 09:52.55 | maol4_ | B1nny nobody helped me before either |
| 09:52.59 | palasso | !ops |
| 09:53.02 | maol4_ | bcooksley so what do |
| 09:53.05 | hateball | the hell |
| 09:53.10 | Crendgrim | hahaha what |
| 09:53.23 | ecksun | lol maol4_, not ok |
| 09:53.30 | tosky | maol4_: IRC is a place when you wait for answer; maybe people are away, maybe people don't know the answer |
| 09:53.31 | B1nny | maol4_: that doesn't matter, support isn't something you're paying for. It's given to you when we feel like it |
| 09:53.40 | hateball | maol4_: if you want a fugly DE, use xfce or something |
| 09:53.40 | buriedalive | how do u sleep? |
| 09:53.41 | tosky | maol4_: back to your questions, I would say: try it. |
| 09:53.41 | Sephirot | hey |
| 09:53.48 | r-ku | maol4_ members of this chatroom wish you <censored> |
| 09:53.54 | Sephirot | my irc pinged me |
| 09:53.59 | Crendgrim | I have not seen that in a channel this big before. Kinda impressive he didn't get auto-kicked by Freenode. |
| 09:54.03 | maol4_ | B1nny then i should have choosen windows, they support you |
| 09:54.08 | Sephirot | maol4 whats going on? |
| 09:54.17 | vedu | maol4_: how did you hightlight everyone? I mean you used some script or just autocompleted all 400 nicks |
| 09:54.17 | Sephirot | maol4_ sry |
| 09:54.25 | greyBoss | anyone to help me with plasma build??? |
| 09:54.27 | maol4_ | [11:44:19] <maol4_> i want win2000 like on linux. will KDE work like that? |
| 09:54.27 | maol4_ | [11:44:26] <maol4_> how much HDD space kde steals? |
| 09:54.27 | maol4_ | [11:44:32] <maol4_> how to check if i have kde installed already? |
| 09:54.27 | maol4_ | [11:45:04] <maol4_> i used kde in past. i did not liked that it had some crap "panels" and eye candy stuff, and start menu looks, widgets etc |
| 09:54.27 | maol4_ | [11:45:04] <maol4_> can i destroy that? |
| 09:54.37 | Sephirot | ... |
| 09:54.41 | BlaXpirit | please someone ban this little shit |
| 09:54.42 | greyBoss | i have a compiled a linux and need to build plasma on it |
| 09:54.45 | B1nny | troll? |
| 09:54.48 | greyBoss | how to start |
| 09:55.02 | kiranos | maol4_: try try try :) you woiuld probably already have had your answer :O |
| 09:55.04 | rahulch | greyBoss: head over to #plasma |
| 09:55.09 | tosky | maol4_: you are getting thing worse; as I said, try it; if it's installed (PLASMA, not KDE), you can select it from the login manager; the disk space is irrelevant this days; you can customize it |
| 09:55.13 | tijensse | is still waiting for the kick |
| 09:55.15 | StatelessCat | maol4_: don't do mass highlight, the only thing you will get is people here will ignore you. |
| 09:55.24 | tosky | maol4_: that's it, now try it and come back with proper questions |
| 09:55.28 | B1nny | tijensse: no OP :( |
| 09:55.30 | b0stik | was pinged |
| 09:55.46 | kiranos | woke the channel up |
| 09:55.47 | kiranos | :P |
| 09:55.49 | maol4_ | kiranos i tried kde before, i did not liked crap eye candy stuff, crap looks, widgets etc |
| 09:55.55 | maol4_ | and start menu was bad |
| 09:56.00 | kiranos | try it again |
| 09:56.03 | StatelessCat | kiranos: that was a bit harsh wake up :) |
| 09:56.06 | Fusselwurm | well i guess he should try with different address and nickname, i wont delete the ignore line now |
| 09:56.07 | alienBOB | maol4_: go away, you pinged me for nothing |
| 09:56.13 | alienBOB | Your karma is zero now |
| 09:56.23 | maol4_ | alienBOB zero = neutral |
| 09:56.24 | howlymowly | maol4_: try #windows |
| 09:56.39 | greyBoss | rahulch thanks |
| 09:56.40 | eagle | try reactos |
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| 09:56.58 | BlaXpirit | try templeos |
| 09:57.06 | B1nny | ^ +1 |
| 09:57.17 | maol4_ | eagle too early |
| 09:57.22 | B1nny | http://www.templeos.org/ |
| 09:57.35 | maol4_ | how to make KDE look normal like win2000? |
| 09:57.45 | tosky | maol4_: themes |
| 09:57.47 | maol4_ | i dont want stupid panels and widgets |
| 09:57.52 | maol4_ | tosky where is win2000 theme |
| 09:58.03 | tosky | maol4_: look around |
| 09:58.09 | maol4_ | where |
| 09:58.20 | tosky | try first to check the _existing_ themes |
| 09:58.23 | tosky | you didn't even try |
| 09:58.27 | tosky | so first try, then we discuss |
| 09:58.34 | maol4_ | where to try |
| 09:58.43 | tosky | on your system, you install it and try |
| 09:59.40 | maol4_ | how to install |
| 09:59.44 | maol4_ | where is theme installer |
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| 10:00.34 | tosky | look the _existing_ themes, there is systemsettings; please read the Plasma documentation, it's all documented |
| 10:00.47 | StatelessCat | haha thanks guys for templeos, very fun to read http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Home/Wb2/TempleOS.html |
| 10:00.51 | tosky | and that's my last answer |
| 10:01.45 | Blizzz | who woke up Cthulhu? |
| 10:02.16 | IsThataPlanet | somebody k/b the knob pls |
| 10:02.44 | kbroulik | maol4_: just run sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda and it will magically turn into Windows 2000 |
| 10:04.02 | Blizzz | maol4_: seriously, if you want win2k, get it and install it. alchemy does not work. if you glue wings on a lion it still won't fly. |
| 10:04.25 | maol4_ | Blizzz i cant because i already have configured and installed stuff on linux |
| 10:04.34 | maol4_ | i am forced to use stupid linux |
| 10:04.47 | maol4_ | how to make it less stupid? how about KDE vs XFCE differences? |
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| 10:07.25 | maol4_ | ? |
| 10:07.33 | maol4_ | you not answer me. do i have to call you again? |
| 10:07.42 | maol4_ | dont force me to do that |
| 10:07.57 | rahulch | maol4_: http://bfy.tw/1HYF |
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| 10:10.06 | tosky | maol4_: did you read my answers? You didn't say you can't install software (but you can always try a live distribution from a CD/DVD/USB drive) |
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| 10:10.58 | srid_ | is it possible to make oxygen5 look smaller? pic here:https://i.imgur.com/hfURWMj.png oxygen4 is on the left, and oxygen5 is on the right |
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| 10:13.08 | maol4_ | rahulch whats the point of irc if all asked questions are redirected to google? |
| 10:13.09 | maol4_ | guess we can close freenode now |
| 10:13.09 | maol4_ | since we have google |
| 10:13.09 | maol4_ | HELP |
| 10:13.57 | brot | well then. |
| 10:14.35 | srid_ | build-in qt theme (if i delete all theme packages for qt5) looks just fine, but... i want all apps have same style |
| 10:14.40 | brot | maol4_: kde5 is quite customizable, and since you can make it looks massively pinkish with fur around windows and panels, etc, you can make it look like win2k. |
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| 10:14.44 | maol4_ | tosky i dont have time for trying |
| 10:15.04 | maol4_ | srid_ on windows all apps have same style |
| 10:15.18 | maol4_ | brot but how to? |
| 10:15.31 | rahulch | maol4_: IRC isn't really some kind of a helpdesk where people are bound to reply to every kind of question, they might be busy with other work (as stated before). Before asking questions in IRC it's very much expected that you have done some basic research on your part (especially simple things like "difference between A and B" which any tom dick and harry can lookup in Google, including you) |
| 10:15.43 | tosky | maol4_: so you have the software now, did you try to open systemsettings and play with the theme? Can you install new software or not? |
| 10:15.49 | brot | first steps would be to get rid of the panels, add one single panel with the simple app launcher (start menu). then chose a boring looking qt-style and the grey color scheme and you should be already near. |
| 10:16.03 | maol4_ | tosky i have debian + lxde. how to check if i have kde already installed? |
| 10:16.23 | brot | also, maol4_: windows 10 is quite the mix between the normal app-style and the new touch friendly app-style |
| 10:16.36 | tosky | maol4_: as you wrote (did you read it? No) if it's installed (PLASMA, not KDE), you can select it from the login manager; |
| 10:16.43 | maol4_ | brot i meant NORMAL windows, like windows XP. win10 is crap cloned from UBUNTU UNITY |
| 10:16.55 | maol4_ | tosky how to open login manager |
| 10:17.08 | tosky | maol4_: how do you login into the system? |
| 10:17.12 | enno | guys, stop feeding. this is the exact use case for ignore functions. please use them. |
| 10:17.15 | brot | windows xp is dead, and rightfully so. |
| 10:17.25 | srid_ | maol4_: hat a lie! have you treid windows? |
| 10:17.45 | maol4_ | brot really? thats very funny because im writing this line from win xp. doesnt seem so dead? |
| 10:18.12 | brot | enno: well, i am currently at work and waiting for one of the cluster hosts to move its 50-VMs to the others so i can add more ram. |
| 10:18.21 | maol4_ | srid_ yes. 99% apps look normal, only some crap qt/gtk multiOS apps look bad |
| 10:18.33 | enno | xD |
| 10:18.39 | maol4_ | srid_ and also some crap antivirus/antimalware shit look bad but i dont use such apps |
| 10:18.49 | Bhaal | Seriously? Highlighting an entire channel? |
| 10:18.57 | Bhaal | How old are you maol4_ ? |
| 10:19.01 | palasso | Can someone please ban maol4_ ? Not only he pinged everyone in the room, at the same time he's speaking aggressively, even used the "i should have choosen windows, they support you" |
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| 10:19.10 | maol4_ | Bhaal they didnt answered me before. why you call about age? |
| 10:19.22 | maol4_ | palasso that was truth |
| 10:19.23 | palasso | enno: it's not a case of ignore. It's a case of ban. |
| 10:19.30 | Bhaal | Because highlighting an entire LARGE channel like that is somewhat childish... |
| 10:19.49 | tosky | bshah: around? |
| 10:19.52 | srid_ | lol, even MS own apps don't follow system interface style! look at office, security essentials, etc |
| 10:19.53 | maol4_ | Bhaal if thats childish, then im childish. any other question i can ask? |
| 10:19.55 | maol4_ | answer |
| 10:20.15 | maol4_ | srid_ thats correct. but they did so recently. in old times they did normally |
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| 10:20.24 | CounterPillow | I was all excited because somebody highlit me and then it was just some shitter, d'aww :[ |
| 10:20.28 | maol4_ | office 2003 looks normal (almost) |
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| 10:20.38 | tosky | maol4_: stop with windows talk; I asked something |
| 10:20.50 | maol4_ | tosky what |
| 10:21.03 | maol4_ | tosky i dont remember how i login |
| 10:21.03 | tosky | maol4_: read your scrollback, you asked about login |
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| 10:21.15 | maol4_ | tosky i dont shutdown my OS |
| 10:21.23 | tosky | maol4_: how do you use your system? Do you enter username and password? |
| 10:21.26 | Bhaal | maol4_: No, but take this away with you: Be patient when you are asking people for help with software you didn't pay for, you might way days for an answer, but that doesn't matter, you WAIT... If it's a high flow channel sure, ask again in a few hours, but if the channel doesn't move much in a day, don't ask, people will see it when they come back to their IRC... |
| 10:21.30 | maol4_ | tosky i dont remember |
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| 10:21.47 | tosky | maol4_: you don't remember? You arrive and find a desktop already started? |
| 10:22.02 | maol4_ | tosky last time i started this OS was months ago so i dont remember |
| 10:22.03 | tosky | but you know that it's debian+lxde - how do you jknow? |
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| 10:22.09 | maol4_ | i just keep it running |
| 10:22.17 | maol4_ | tosky i installed lxde |
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| 10:22.19 | tosky | maol4_: starting is one thing, logging in is another |
| 10:22.33 | palasso | tosky: why are you trying to help that person with the awful behavior? |
| 10:22.33 | maol4_ | tosky yes but it was months ago so im not sure how i did |
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| 10:22.42 | tosky | maol4_: so logout from the session, and go back at the login manager; it's exactly like Windows |
| 10:22.46 | tosky | maol4_: try it now |
| 10:22.54 | maol4_ | Bhaal i waited, 0 answers. so had to call them |
| 10:22.55 | tosky | palasso: to show that he (?) is trolling |
| 10:23.05 | maol4_ | tosky but if i logout it will close my APPS |
| 10:23.10 | palasso | tosky: and why is that important? |
| 10:23.11 | Bhaal | maol4_: NO |
| 10:23.12 | brot | that is a bold strategy tosky, lets see if it pays out :) |
| 10:23.12 | tosky | maol4_: you waited FIVE minutes |
| 10:23.12 | greyBoss | this channel is polluted |
| 10:23.14 | maol4_ | id need to save my progress |
| 10:23.21 | Bhaal | maol4_: You NEVER do that... |
| 10:23.25 | tosky | maol4_: ok, so stop writing and come back when you are done |
| 10:23.39 | maol4_ | tosky five minutes is enough. |
| 10:23.47 | rahulch | maol4_: what do you mean *had to call them* ? I wasn't aware that people nowdays are capable of forcing people to reply to their questions in IRC ? |
| 10:23.50 | Bhaal | If I was an op in here, I would have kicked and banned you without asking any questions, and I would not have answered any questions sent in private |
| 10:24.02 | BlaXpirit | could u people just be quiet. half an hour passed, and you're still feeding the troll |
| 10:24.03 | tosky | maol4_: it's not please read again IRC netiquette |
| 10:24.11 | maol4_ | rahulch then stop forcing people to install linux if you dont help them later then |
| 10:24.23 | tosky | maol4_: did you ask the person who installed it? |
| 10:24.32 | tosky | ok, so it's really trolling at this point |
| 10:24.39 | maol4_ | tosky ? |
| 10:24.40 | rahulch | maol4_: neither do I recall any people forcing you to install Linux, no one from here atleast? |
| 10:24.57 | BlaXpirit | sherlock tosky |
| 10:24.58 | rahulch | it's free software, and you are welcome to use any other OS I am sure |
| 10:25.05 | maol4_ | rahulch you (linuxers) advertise linux and say its better than windows |
| 10:25.19 | palasso | maol4_: windows is far better, leave that room and go to #windows |
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| 10:25.46 | maol4_ | palasso but i have already linux and its cofigured for some stuff. i cant just go to windows |
| 10:25.49 | srid_ | so, what about oxygen5? is there any way to configure it, or huge widgets are hardcoded? and if i want to change the code, where do i start? |
| 10:26.15 | palasso | maol4_: buy a new windows PC |
| 10:26.18 | rahulch | doesn't know how to respond to extreme bad manenrs and gives up |
| 10:26.24 | maol4_ | palasso whats the point of? |
| 10:26.39 | maol4_ | i have a PC. i dont need new one |
| 10:26.50 | palasso | maol4_: you need windows, so you need a new one |
| 10:26.58 | maol4_ | i have windows |
| 10:27.07 | palasso | Then go to windows |
| 10:27.16 | Bhaal | Trollolololololo |
| 10:27.20 | maol4_ | im already on windows, how to go to it? |
| 10:27.32 | palasso | Awesome! |
| 10:27.40 | palasso | Then you're on the wrong channel. Go to #windows |
| 10:27.43 | maol4_ | no |
| 10:27.46 | maol4_ | im in good channel |
| 10:27.51 | maol4_ | i have LINUX virtual machine |
| 10:27.55 | maol4_ | running off windows |
| 10:28.09 | tosky | maol4_: did you log out it? |
| 10:28.25 | palasso | maol4_: Ask Microsoft about it, you're running Windows. |
| 10:28.27 | maol4_ | tosky its not simple, i would have to bookmark and save all my firefox tabs |
| 10:28.34 | B1nny | maol4_: if you want people to help you, please work along, try the solutions they offer |
| 10:28.43 | B1nny | maol4_: no, you can change the firefox settings to remember your last tabs |
| 10:28.55 | greyBoss | guys what happened to you all please quit talking with a non sense |
| 10:29.01 | tosky | maol4_: it's one click, right click and bookmarks all tabs; but if you reopen you can restore the session |
| 10:29.05 | maol4_ | B1nny but the websites will expire after i open them again. some are already expired |
| 10:29.19 | maol4_ | i have to save them on hdd |
| 10:29.19 | tosky | maol4_: so it does not matter; if they are expired, just close it |
| 10:29.25 | maol4_ | it matters.. |
| 10:29.31 | maol4_ | i can save them to hdd |
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| 10:29.40 | tosky | maol4_: so save them and continue when you are done |
| 10:29.43 | maol4_ | OK |
| 10:29.48 | greyBoss | Admin where are you???????? |
| 10:29.48 | maol4_ | that could work |
| 10:29.57 | tsdgeos | greyBoss: here |
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| 10:30.14 | B1nny | ... |
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| 10:30.15 | *** kick/#kde [maol4_!~quassel@kde/aacid] by tsdgeos (maol4_) |
| 10:30.17 | greyBoss | uff admin isnt the channel heavily polluted??? |
| 10:30.20 | palasso | Finally :) |
| 10:30.25 | B1nny | tsdgeos: thank you |
| 10:30.27 | rahulch | thanks a lot tsdgeos :) |
| 10:30.28 | palasso | thank you tsdgeos |
| 10:30.36 | greyBoss | tsdgoes |
| 10:30.38 | greyBoss | thanks |
| 10:31.34 | tsdgeos | greyBoss: if you use the tab key it's easier you don't make mistakes spelling my nick ;) |
| 10:31.55 | tsdgeos | i'm logging off the channel, query me back if he comes under a different nick |
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| 10:43.07 | copypaste | akonadi is very unreliable and a waste of resources and i hate it |
| 10:43.09 | copypaste | Failed to transport message. Unable to create SMTP job. |
| 10:43.38 | copypaste | you would think the whole point of using mysql and a bunch of other "Enterprise" crap would be for reliability, but of course, when you need to actually send email with a configuration that previously worked for months it fails with a cryptic error |
| 10:43.51 | copypaste | back to thunderbird :^( |
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| 10:45.01 | srid_ | akonady on my system says it's mysql database is corrupted, and i have no idea how to fix this |
| 10:45.10 | srid_ | *akonadi |
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| 10:45.25 | colonolGron | hi |
| 10:45.26 | copypaste | lol |
| 10:45.34 | copypaste | probably just wipe the mysql db |
| 10:45.42 | copypaste | drop all the tables |
| 10:46.28 | colonolGron | i started to learn qt, i created a small application with an tray icon. at first i used qt4 now i switched to qt5 and all of a sudden my tray menu has an extra entry "quit" which now is double because i already created one manually. i wonder if this is only on kde? i mean is it a feature added to all applications started in kde? or a qt4-5 change? |
| 10:47.52 | Tuju | nowdays nothing happens in my kmail if i don't constanty run akonadictl restart. |
| 10:47.58 | Tuju | not even email send. |
| 10:48.08 | copypaste | Tuju: good to know im not hte only one with an unreliable kmail |
| 10:48.17 | copypaste | i tried `akonadictl restart` for this problem but still unable to make SMTP job |
| 10:48.23 | copypaste | just came here to call akonadi shitty |
| 10:48.27 | Tuju | well, we use the same programs, don't we? |
| 10:48.32 | copypaste | haha |
| 10:48.32 | tosky | copypaste: that's not a good use of IRC |
| 10:48.49 | srid_ | i only get "resource broken" errors, and duplicate messages sometimes |
| 10:48.50 | tosky | copypaste: try to use akonadiconsole and check if the error of the SMTP transport' |
| 10:49.08 | copypaste | tosky: akonadi_maildispatcher_agent (0x7f2fbc014710) 87 UID STORE 65952 REV 1 (REMOTEID "1439462686.R693.localhost" +FLAGS ($ERROR) ATR:ErrorAttribute "Failed to transport message. Unable to create SMTP job." ATR:DispatchModeAttribute "never") |
| 10:49.09 | tosky | srid_: you can cleanup the configuration and start over |
| 10:49.10 | Tuju | i just ran it, message is still in outbox, typically i need to run it few times to make it send. |
| 10:49.20 | copypaste | im not going to show you the whole log because above that is my message, and i don't want you reading my mail |
| 10:49.22 | copypaste | but that's all it says |
| 10:49.30 | copypaste | then it does some STORE shit for putting it back in the outbox |
| 10:49.40 | tosky | copypaste: from akonadiconsole, right? |
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| 10:49.44 | copypaste | correct |
| 10:50.03 | tosky | dvratil: sorry for the ping, but... ^ |
| 10:50.04 | Tuju | now that fscking message is not leaving. |
| 10:50.09 | Tuju | it's my work mail. |
| 10:50.31 | Tuju | ah, restarting kmail helped this time. |
| 10:50.35 | copypaste | actually im reading this more carefully |
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| 10:50.41 | srid_ | tosky: i can, but i don't want too loose everything. it would take a lot of time to download and organize it again |
| 10:50.43 | copypaste | my mail is being dumped by akonadi_baloo_indexer |
| 10:50.49 | copypaste | so i can show you everything from akonadi_maildispatcher_agent |
| 10:50.55 | copypaste | since that's the broken thing |
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| 10:51.26 | copypaste | http://pastie.org/private/wajjbfcpvoz4eyhykpyrwg |
| 10:51.28 | copypaste | there |
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| 10:51.37 | BluesKaj | Hey all |
| 10:51.52 | Tuju | copypaste: hey, my internet connection is slowed down by ISP because my imap server is abroad and akonadi have to waste all my net bandwidth for shit it does with folders. |
| 10:52.06 | Tuju | its just killing all the trees for nothing. |
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| 10:52.21 | colonolGron | just tested it, this seems to only happen if i start with plasma5 |
| 10:52.28 | srid_ | but right now my pain is KDE5 qt styles: https://i.imgur.com/hfURWMj.png why it is so huge? some programs won't feet screen anymore |
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| 10:53.06 | Tuju | akonadi's only problem is not the bugs in code, but some very plain stupid deciscions made by developers. |
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| 10:53.32 | Tuju | they even have seen effort to make those deciscions, which is something odd. |
| 10:54.49 | cmakeshift | srid_: I wonder about that too sometimes. I actually like the increased padding and it makes a lot of sense on Breeze but why touch Oxygen? (which should be deprecated for all I care) |
| 10:55.41 | cmakeshift | srid_: maybe the padding is set by Qt, not the style. Only a dev can answer that |
| 10:55.53 | Tuju | any idea why i don't see my ipad in dolphin? |
| 10:55.58 | Tuju | need some pics from it. |
| 10:56.07 | copypaste | just used webmail to send that important message |
| 10:56.11 | copypaste | i remember when mail clients were rock solid |
| 10:56.13 | copypaste | in windows 96 |
| 10:56.15 | copypaste | 95* |
| 10:56.25 | copypaste | get your shit together please guys. thanks ( ´ã»â¿-) ï½ â¥ |
| 10:56.35 | Tuju | copypaste: and w95 didn't even have ip-protocol out of the box. |
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| 10:56.46 | srid_ | built-in qt theme (if i delet all theme packages for qt5) is fine, so it's probably not qt itself |
| 10:56.51 | copypaste | Outlook wasn't so buggy though :D |
| 10:58.19 | cmakeshift | Tuju: distro? you need the packages "libimobiledevice-utils" and "ifuse" on nautilus (ubuntu), not sure about dolphin support |
| 10:58.30 | Tuju | cmakeshift: fedora |
| 10:59.08 | Tuju | http://www.quora.com/Why-can-nautilus-file-manager-acces-ipad-storage-while-windows-file-manager-and-kdes-dolphin-cant |
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| 11:01.22 | cmakeshift | Tuju: there is an old bug about it that was bumped last year: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267701 |
| 11:01.32 | cmakeshift | Tuju: apparently nothing happened |
| 11:01.44 | cmakeshift | Tuju: so, yeah... no support from KDE |
| 11:01.45 | Tuju | cmakeshift: as usual. |
| 11:02.00 | copypaste | kde is a community project |
| 11:02.12 | cmakeshift | Tuju: I wish I still had my iPhone to try and make this work somehow |
| 11:02.15 | copypaste | i understand them not bending over backwards to support some iShit devices |
| 11:02.20 | Tuju | copypaste: so i heard. |
| 11:02.30 | copypaste | but the developers purposely made kmail worse |
| 11:02.33 | copypaste | that's what i don't understand |
| 11:02.38 | tosky | copypaste: there is no "them not bending", it's just "no one implemented it" |
| 11:02.38 | copypaste | it's a community project with limited resources |
| 11:02.40 | cmakeshift | Tuju: But I guess like myself, most KDE devs are averse to iThingies |
| 11:02.42 | copypaste | kmail in kde3 worked fine |
| 11:02.55 | copypaste | but then they decided "hey why don't we take this thing that works and add mysql to it and break it" |
| 11:02.57 | Tuju | cmakeshift: they're everything that is real life related. |
| 11:02.58 | copypaste | "genius :D" |
| 11:02.59 | tosky | copypaste: no lies please, there was no purpose; akonadi was a real effort to solve some problems |
| 11:03.05 | Tuju | cmakeshift: like certificates. |
| 11:03.08 | copypaste | it didn't solve any problems |
| 11:03.12 | copypaste | all it has ever caused me is more problems |
| 11:03.16 | copypaste | what problem was solved? |
| 11:03.19 | tosky | it's not about mysql |
| 11:03.34 | copypaste | it depends on mysql, so yes, it is very much about adding mysql to the kde stack |
| 11:03.41 | cmakeshift | copypaste: I use KMail everyday with GMail IMAP, other IMAP, POP, senf mail through just fine, it works for me |
| 11:03.44 | tosky | a centralized set of libraries to access and cache any PIM resource |
| 11:03.49 | srid_ | cmakeshift: actually, i did ask on #kde-devel channel, nobody replied. should i look for a specific person? |
| 11:03.52 | Tuju | when computers meet reality, certificates are needed to bind trusts between players. and KDE is not there glueing them together. |
| 11:04.01 | cmakeshift | copypaste: akonadi is not perfect but to me it makes a lot of sense and it works |
| 11:04.18 | Tuju | hell, KDE is trying to prevent that even someone would like to submit code. |
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| 11:04.29 | tosky | srid_: I think that visual designers mostly hangs out on their forum on forum.kde.org |
| 11:04.46 | Tuju | cmakeshift: would you like to take that 'akonadi works' back? one time offer! |
| 11:05.14 | cmakeshift | srid_: sadly, I think you are mostly on your own on this one. You might try pinging the Dolphin maintainer, that changed quite some time ago. A quick googling should bring up his name |
| 11:05.37 | cmakeshift | Tuju: I might rephrase it: "it works for me" |
| 11:05.46 | Tuju | cmakeshift: fair enough. |
| 11:06.01 | tosky | I though srid_'s problem was about the theme, not dolphin |
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| 11:07.21 | cmakeshift | tosky, srid_: oh, sorry, you are right. I mixed up with the iPhone support stuff. My bad |
| 11:07.50 | Tuju | just installed nautilus, but still no ipad here. |
| 11:09.17 | cmakeshift | Tuju: also libimobiledevice and ifuse? |
| 11:09.27 | Tuju | mmm, ah ifuse lemme check |
| 11:09.49 | Tuju | Package ifuse-1.1.3-6.fc22.x86_64 is already installed, skipping. - yup. |
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| 11:14.00 | cmakeshift | Tuju: grr. now I am out of options besides running it under gnome proper. My guess is that it requires some service to be running. |
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| 11:18.41 | dvratil | copypaste: "Unable to create SMTP" job sounds like a problem in your installation. What version of KDE do you have, and what distribution? |
| 11:19.28 | copypaste | arch linux, kde frameworks 5.12.0 |
| 11:19.55 | dvratil | copypaste: that's not the version I'm looking for :) What does KMail -> Help -> About says? |
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| 11:20.20 | copypaste | kmail version 4.14.10 |
| 11:20.43 | Tuju | nope, that njautilus doesn't work. kräp. |
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| 11:21.30 | dvratil | copypaste: thanks. Is it possible that some parts of kdepim (akonadi, kdepimlibs, kdepim-runtime) were not updated and/or installed correctly? This error basically means that some part of the system (specifically kio_smtp) is missing |
| 11:21.51 | copypaste | come to think of it, i did update today |
| 11:22.00 | copypaste | the thing is ive been using this kmail installation for a while now |
| 11:22.41 | dvratil | copypaste: that could be the reason. Could you try logging out and back in to make sure all parts of the PIM are running from the updated version? |
| 11:22.47 | Markus_KMi | Use kdepim-noakonadi (google it and compile it yourself because it's AFAIK only packaged for Gentoo) |
| 11:23.41 | copypaste | yeah afk |
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| 11:25.21 | Tuju | whaat, such exists? |
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| 11:25.46 | copypaste | nice dvratil, i can send mails again c: |
| 11:25.53 | copypaste | my pacman log doesn't show an update to any kde stuff though |
| 11:25.56 | Tuju | https://launchpad.net/~pali/+archive/ubuntu/kdepim-noakonadi |
| 11:25.58 | copypaste | oh well, im happy it works |
| 11:26.20 | dvratil | \o/ |
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| 11:37.45 | Tuju | what's the latest ubuntu release? |
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| 11:41.27 | Tuju | this http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/blog/2013-04-18-kdepim-without-akonadi.html is dated 2013 Apri 18, but seems legit even today. |
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| 11:46.10 | leszek | Tuju: despite the fact that nepomuk isn't used anymore. But I agree akonadi is a great idea on paper but not so great in real usage |
| 11:47.22 | Tuju | leszek: i actually was very excited about it back 3.x times when whole concept was unveiled. How wrong I was after all. :( |
| 11:47.49 | Tuju | and frankly, i'm not against the idea per se. I'm against the end result that doesn't work. |
| 11:49.09 | Tuju | for some reason it fcskups folder pointers and messes them up, eats all mem, spends bandwidth on folders that i've not opened for years. that's all stupidity and caused by implementation choices. |
| 11:50.40 | shevy | good old 3 era |
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| 11:54.56 | tosky | Tuju: there is also one thing to check: did you migrate your folder from pre-akonadi kmail? If yes, it's possible they you are using mixedmaildir for them, which could explain the slowness |
| 11:55.22 | Tuju | tosky: i'm using mouse. maybe I shouldn't? |
| 11:55.55 | tosky | Tuju: please. That's not the point. Could you please check if the resources for your folders are mixedmaildir? |
| 11:56.26 | Tuju | tosky: how i could do that? this is the first time i hear something like that. |
| 11:56.52 | Tuju | my akonadi uses remote Postgresql |
| 11:57.01 | tosky | no, it's not akonadi |
| 11:57.07 | tosky | it's they way the folders are stored |
| 11:57.18 | Tuju | how do i check that? |
| 11:57.24 | tosky | from the kmail settings |
| 11:57.46 | tosky | or even better, uhm |
| 11:58.35 | tosky | if you have akonadiconsole, Agents tab, check the Identifier for your resources |
| 11:58.53 | tosky | Do you see any of them called akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_<number> ? |
| 11:59.24 | Tuju | if kmail - heck, if KDE would have url scheme for it's GUI locations, like kde://desktop/programs/kmail/settings/misc/tabs/pluginsettings/#highlight-setting-A&setItOff - we wouldn't waste time by verbally explaining these? |
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| 12:00.09 | Tuju | then i would just click it and KDE would open it all up on my face and even change the diff you suggested, i would then just press Apply and we're done. |
| 12:01.35 | tosky | I would say that such a scheme would be not related to KDE, but it should be an independent standard, but anyway |
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| 12:02.27 | Tuju | tosky: yup, could be. |
| 12:02.54 | Tuju | tosky: i installed console, i can see 'identifier' - but haven't seen any 'mixedmaildir' in any. |
| 12:03.27 | Tuju | some are *_imap_* some *_maildir_* |
| 12:03.29 | tosky | Tuju: ok, thanks for checking; that kind of resource for storing emails can be slow (it was used for migrating existing data) |
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| 12:09.06 | Tuju | tosky: why kdepim has to actively do something on my folder collection? no other email system does that. |
| 12:09.43 | Tuju | it consumes my foreign bandwith and ISP screws it tighter once i'm done spending it. |
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| 12:10.07 | tosky | Tuju: do you mean on the imap folders, apart from synchronizing them? |
| 12:10.19 | tosky | Tuju: akonadiconsole should show you all the operations, if you enable the debug mode |
| 12:10.58 | Tuju | yes, imap folders. i don't know what it does there, but i don't need it to do anything there. |
| 12:11.22 | tosky | if the imap folders are remote, I guess it tries to check if there are updates, no? |
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| 12:11.32 | Tuju | imagine that i've been using my computer since 1993, there is quite a bit of stuff to go through. I don't do that, why should KDE do? |
| 12:12.01 | Tuju | it wears hard drives out, it consumes bandwidth. for nothing. |
| 12:12.02 | leszek | Tuju: you can set only to watch one imap folder though in settings somewhere as far as I remember |
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| 12:12.29 | tosky | yes, you can disable the subscription for folders you don't want to be updated |
| 12:12.57 | Tuju | leszek: i've tried that zillions of times. you have to do that per folder basis, at some point someone here says "destroy all your settings and start over". it takes literally hours to do that for hundreds of folders. |
| 12:13.01 | tosky | or you can switch to offline mode if you don't want to update anything for some time, but still synchronize all of them from time to time |
| 12:13.15 | Tuju | tosky: i don't want to hide those from folder listing. |
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| 12:13.43 | tosky | Tuju: you want to see them, but you don't want to synchronize them? How do you get updates then? |
| 12:13.51 | Tuju | for example alpine starts reading those folders once you *open* them, not before. |
| 12:14.21 | Tuju | tosky: I only want 'updates' from my inbox. That's all. |
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| 12:15.05 | Tuju | and i don't want any 'synchronization' at all. I want IMAP connection. And these days that's impossible with KDE. |
| 12:15.12 | rdieter | agrees with Tuju , the "subsubscribe to all folders" + "make it non-trivial to undo that" is ... a little frustrating |
| 12:15.46 | rdieter | though it's not *hard* to unsubscribe from all except inbox either, just annoyingly verbose |
| 12:15.55 | rdieter | unchecking a bunch of subscription boxes |
| 12:16.09 | Tuju | majority of people get emails into inbox. They leave it there - or deal it later. Once done, they move it into some folder for possible later use. That's all. |
| 12:16.54 | rdieter | Tuju: maybe I can poke akonadi/kontact folks about it again, now that work on kf5 is ongoing (and minor redesign can be considered) |
| 12:17.05 | Tuju | rdieter: i've changed those folder settings multiple times and face situation i would need to do it again, I won't. I'm human, and we have machines for that kind of tedious tasks. |
| 12:17.09 | tosky | Tuju: how do you move emails to other folders if they are not properly updated? |
| 12:17.33 | Tuju | tosky: I've no idea. Alpine does it somehow, maybe take a peak from there? |
| 12:17.35 | rdieter | Tuju: that's a bad attitude. I know I could fix it, but I refuse to, but would rather complain (unconstructively, I might add) |
| 12:18.35 | Tuju | rdieter: I keep my right to have an opinion of my desktop regardless that I don't commit code to each piece of it. So do you and I would have you to have understood that already, after all these years. |
| 12:18.53 | Tuju | rdieter: so you can keep your 'bad attitude'. |
| 12:19.00 | rdieter | you certainly can have your opinion, but unconstructive rants here helps no one (except your ego) |
| 12:19.07 | Tuju | this is a community and it gets better if we share our thoughts. |
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| 12:19.24 | Tuju | rdieter: you don't have to listen it if you cannot take it. |
| 12:19.39 | shevy | someone give me some popcorn |
| 12:20.00 | rdieter | if it wasn't clear, yes, I've will stop listening now indeed |
| 12:20.02 | Tuju | People have been used as test animals for years and you keep saying that they shouldn't get frustrated? |
| 12:20.16 | tosky | that's too much |
| 12:20.26 | shevy | just use gnome3 |
| 12:20.27 | Tuju | tosky: google Akonadi. |
| 12:20.38 | tosky | Tuju: I use it, thanks |
| 12:21.20 | tosky | Tuju: anyway, you said have IMAP connection is not possible; that's not true, full synchronization happens when you check the option to download emails locally |
| 12:21.24 | Tuju | tosky: you misunderstood. Google what people talk about it. |
| 12:21.49 | Tuju | tosky: i've not chosen such option ever. |
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| 12:23.51 | rdieter | general comment: just because you're frustrated, is not a valid justification to complain *unconstructively* (emphasis on the unconstructively part, by willfully ignoring advice on how to make things better for both yourself and everyone else) |
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| 12:24.57 | Tuju | rdieter: we have talked nicely years. that lead nowhere. I'm not even being 'unconstructive' - but i give you that i'm not expecting any 'constructiveness' either from this talk. |
| 12:24.59 | rdieter | worse, to attack those trying to help you. |
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| 12:25.15 | Tuju | this is a user channel, it should affect users feelings. You want to hide them? |
| 12:25.29 | Tuju | rdieter: who did I attack? where? |
| 12:25.30 | rdieter | you don't get it, that's ok. |
| 12:25.39 | Tuju | gimme a line. |
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| 12:26.38 | rdieter | I've reached the point where my participation in this conversation isn't constructive either now, so I'm choosing to depart from it. |
| 12:27.23 | Tuju | indeed. you can make accusation and then leave when I question it. |
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| 12:29.45 | rdieter | Tuju: sorry if you feel I made accustations. It was simply my *opinion* you are being unconstructive in your criticisms and have a bad attitude responding to advice given. nothing more, nothing less |
| 12:30.06 | Tuju | this is the way how kdepim has been for years and how it ended how it is. There are these 'politically correctness officers' who monitor what kind of feedback you can give from it. |
| 12:30.43 | Tuju | rdieter: maybe you didn't notice, it was not me who said he had problems with akonadi. |
| 12:31.38 | rdieter | Tuju: I'm only talking about you in the irc discussion here over the past ~20 minutes or so |
| 12:32.08 | Tuju | yes, you're being 'politically correctivness officer'. doing great so far. |
| 12:32.29 | tosky | Tuju: the problem with akonadi was resolved after a restart of the session (maybe installation related), so please don't use that one |
| 12:32.39 | Tuju | maybe doing something to actual issue in hand, would silent feedback? :) |
| 12:32.47 | rdieter | I admit I probably overreacted to your "you can keep ..." comment. I just find it deeply frustrating when people willfully ignore good advice |
| 12:33.17 | Tuju | tosky: i think that smtp send issue has persisted whole summer or so. |
| 12:33.43 | Tuju | regardless restarts. somehow connection between kmail -- akonadi has started getting rotten recently. |
| 12:34.45 | Tuju | rdieter: you associate my face to trigger your behaviour policing. I don't blame you. imo opensource should be openess and venting if there is a reson for that. |
| 12:36.42 | Tuju | rdieter: ever seen linus being direct? hmmmm. :) |
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| 12:38.35 | Markus_KMi | Tuju: The pim devs seem to understand now what went wrong (although I personally don't have much problems with it, just Pop3 filtering but that's a problem in the pop3 plugin, not akonadi in general) |
| 12:38.43 | rdieter | Tuju: I still don't appreciate your negative attitude to advice... and in that regard, I *was* direct in telling you so. |
| 12:38.56 | Markus_KMi | They are working on a successor to akonadi |
| 12:39.21 | Tuju | Markus_KMi: whoooo, any information about that? |
| 12:39.54 | Tuju | Markus_KMi: we did shout like we do now, when they were desinging the first akonadi. And they didn't listen us. |
| 12:39.55 | Markus_KMi | Tuju: Not much I could find |
| 12:40.13 | tosky | not much? |
| 12:40.16 | Tuju | people were very upset about putting RDBMS into it, but they kept doing it. |
| 12:40.19 | tosky | there was a talk during akademy |
| 12:40.24 | tosky | with video online |
| 12:40.52 | Markus_KMi | last I googled there was a mail "lets hold an IRC meeting" and no followups |
| 12:41.25 | tosky | check the akademy website, the conference schedule; there are videos |
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| 12:41.43 | Tuju | tosky: any onliner what the plans are? |
| 12:41.50 | Tuju | oneliner, that is. |
| 12:41.50 | Markus_KMi | with no transcript it's hard to google for it |
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| 12:42.14 | Markus_KMi | but I'll look the video up now |
| 12:42.17 | Tuju | and for the record: i'm still pro for Akonadi conecpt - if that works. |
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| 12:43.56 | Markus_KMi | OK, entering "video" in Akregator's PlanetKDE feed turns up nothing meaningful |
| 12:44.12 | Tuju | ideally there would be that -noakonadi option as workaroudn until it's proven to work. |
| 12:44.28 | Markus_KMi | ah, KDE.News |
| 12:45.36 | crog | Why was I pinged in here? Obviously need to set my scrollback higher. |
| 12:45.39 | tosky | as I said, akademy website |
| 12:46.06 | rdieter | crog: someone pinged the entire channel a little back because no one answered their question(s) promptly |
| 12:46.08 | Markus_KMi | crog: Ignore that |
| 12:46.19 | crog | Ah ha, that makes sense. |
| 12:46.21 | Markus_KMi | Tuju: https://conf.kde.org/en/akademy2015/public/events/259 |
| 12:46.28 | crog | I should have actually answered them with my non-knowledge. That'll teach them. |
| 12:47.00 | Tuju | rdieter: let's not mix questions to feedback about quality of deliverable. :) |
| 12:47.17 | Tuju | Markus_KMi: thanks! |
| 12:47.19 | Markus_KMi | I only quickly scrolled through my backlog. apparently it was a troll rambling about being forced to use linux or so |
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| 12:52.02 | Tuju | not very <rex>constructive</rex> to name people. |
| 12:53.12 | Tuju | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll pretty negative assoiation. |
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| 12:53.49 | rdieter | in this case, largely deserved though |
| 12:54.30 | Tuju | rdieter: you must be in my fanbase, i think. |
| 12:54.37 | rdieter | they too did not respond well to advice :-P |
| 12:55.42 | Tuju | there is an elefant in the middle of the room, but nobody is willing to admit that. And anyone who says it aloud, it being smacked quiet. :) |
| 12:56.14 | Tuju | by naming, with accusations etc :) |
| 12:58.17 | rdieter | Tuju: no one is disputing the |
| 12:58.29 | rdieter | elefant that akonadi is far from perfect |
| 12:58.58 | rdieter | Tuju: who's not willing to admit that? |
| 12:59.25 | Tuju | there were three people talking about here it until they were silenced. |
| 12:59.49 | Tuju | maybe the ones who took part of it? |
| 12:59.49 | rdieter | that doesn't answer my question |
| 13:00.28 | rdieter | "nobody is willing to admit that" , ok, who exactly? |
| 13:00.30 | Tuju | rdieter: i'm not making name lists as you like to do. I rather discuss about the problem itself. |
| 13:00.49 | rdieter | who is disputing your claims that akonadi has problems? |
| 13:01.02 | Tuju | so we cannot talk abou those then? |
| 13:01.02 | rdieter | hint: no one I can see |
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| 13:01.39 | rdieter | You're claiming oppression when there is none |
| 13:01.41 | tosky | who was silenced? |
| 13:01.46 | Tuju | "15:17] <rdieter> Tuju: that's a bad attitude. I know I could fix it, but I refuse to, but would rather complain (unconstructively, I might add)" |
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| 13:02.00 | Tuju | rdieter: that was your third or so sentence on this channel. |
| 13:02.18 | Tuju | rdieter: have I ever had opinion about your attitude? |
| 13:02.29 | Tuju | no, beacause i don't have any. |
| 13:02.42 | rdieter | sigh, why am I still here |
| 13:02.44 | Tuju | I don't care what's your attitude. |
| 13:03.01 | Tuju | if you've something to say about some setting or so, let's talk. |
| 13:03.12 | rdieter | I gave you advice how to fix the specific problem you were having, and you refused it. end of story |
| 13:03.30 | Tuju | that not sending smtp messages? |
| 13:03.47 | Tuju | that was my problem. and someone elses too on this channel. |
| 13:03.48 | rdieter | Tuju: read your comment 1 or 2 lines before mine, about folder subscriptinos |
| 13:04.08 | Tuju | that is a nuisance. not the biggest problem. |
| 13:04.27 | Tuju | i can loose money or so if some message doesn't leave. |
| 13:04.36 | rdieter | "<Tuju> rdieter: i've changed those folder settings multiple times... I won't do it again" |
| 13:04.47 | enno | sorry to interrupt this but is there a reason and maybe an easy fix for file transfers under plasma taking tons of cpu power when the same costs maybe 5% tops with cp? |
| 13:04.48 | Tuju | truth every word. |
| 13:04.49 | rdieter | ^^ that specifically |
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| 13:05.15 | rdieter | enno: it's fixed in frameworks 5.13 (when available) |
| 13:05.21 | enno | yay :D |
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| 13:05.25 | Tuju | rdieter: spcifically of what? |
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| 13:05.44 | Tuju | rdieter: you want me to go trough those settings once more? |
| 13:05.57 | rdieter | Tuju: If you want things better, yes. |
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| 13:06.27 | Tuju | i've seen kmail to loose those settings many times. I've better things to do than that. |
| 13:07.37 | rdieter | patient: i've this sliver that hurts. dr: let's take the sliver out. patient: I've better things to do... besides I'll just get another one |
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| 13:07.44 | Tuju | my laywer friend took me into car and drow against first red lights we drove trough. He said "our professor said, that don't let machines give orders to humans." :) well, I was a bit shocked thou. |
| 13:08.12 | Tuju | rdieter: i've a feeling that we're talking about different things. |
| 13:08.24 | rdieter | thinks that patient is crazy |
| 13:08.52 | Tuju | rdieter: it's you who likes to hang out with Kevin :D |
| 13:09.33 | rdieter | Kevin is worse than you, he won't take advice on being contructive either |
| 13:09.43 | Tuju | don't offload to me everything you have to experience :) |
| 13:10.20 | rdieter | you're the one who mentioned K |
| 13:10.23 | Tuju | rdieter: for the record, I know how, but I don't try. |
| 13:10.30 | BluesKaj | Tuju: some vary dangerous machines can kill him if he doesn't pay attention to what those machines are doing :-) |
| 13:10.54 | Tuju | it's all part of the plan not to please people youre giving the feedback. that kind of spoils it all otherwise. |
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| 13:12.24 | BluesKaj | he's been reading too much Stephen Hawking |
| 13:12.28 | Tuju | BluesKaj: there is a news of person who died into meat mincer. |
| 13:13.48 | Tuju | rdieter: I guess I've lost hope that things would get any better. too many years have passed in the same stagnation. |
| 13:13.49 | rdieter | Tuju: "I know how, but I don't try." <-- you admit this, yet complain about my calling that a bad attitude? really? that makes me so sad. |
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| 13:14.21 | Tuju | i never denied it so there is nothing to admit. |
| 13:14.50 | Tuju | you make a bad program, commit it and make everyone to use it and ruin their days, what do you expect? |
| 13:15.28 | rdieter | that's just horrible, I'll go being labelling it as bad attitude, we really are into trolling territory now |
| 13:16.25 | rdieter | s/being/beyond/ |
| 13:16.27 | Tuju | it's not trolling. state of akonadi is a fact. and people are more or less in bad spot if you're using KDE. that doesn't fill the trolling |
| 13:17.05 | Tuju | rdieter: how many years we have tried to use it? 10? |
| 13:17.13 | rdieter | 'make everyone use it' you have a choice not to, no one is making you do anything. |
| 13:17.17 | ahoneybun | ahoneybun |
| 13:17.43 | rdieter | there's so much wrong there, I have nothing else to say... going back to work. have a nice day |
| 13:18.07 | Tuju | rdieter: http://mirror.klaus-uwe.me/kde/files/akademy/2015/videos/the_road_to_a_next_iteration_of_akonadi-christian_mollekopf-259.webm |
| 13:18.29 | Markus_KMi | Tuju: Akonadi is not tied into Plasma. It's not even released together. Feel free to use whatever you like. pim-noakonadi, Trojita, Thunderbird, Claws,⦠|
| 13:18.47 | Tuju | Markus_KMi: even you know that i know that. |
| 13:19.05 | Markus_KMi | 15:16 <Tuju> it's not trolling. state of akonadi is a fact. and people are more or less in bad spot if you're using KDE |
| 13:19.21 | Markus_KMi | you cant "use KDE" since 2009 |
| 13:19.53 | Markus_KMi | they are different products |
| 13:20.04 | Tuju | Markus see that video, he puts it better than i can here in irc. |
| 13:20.18 | Markus_KMi | like using a Samsung TV and a LG Bluray player |
| 13:20.29 | Markus_KMi | hadn't time yet |
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| 13:21.39 | Markus_KMi | my personal experience is that I have one regression over non-akonadi releases (that is Pop3 mail filtering) and many improvements |
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| 13:28.49 | Tuju | Markus_KMi: i was not using kmail for years actually. |
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| 13:29.06 | Tuju | two or three years i think. |
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| 13:33.38 | Markus_KMi | https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/pim/akonadi-next/repository :D |
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| 13:36.19 | Tuju | Markus_KMi: you're getting 'internal error' ? |
| 13:36.57 | tsdgeos | fixed |
| 13:37.14 | tsdgeos | i lifted the ban on maol4_ from earlier |
| 13:37.18 | tsdgeos | seems he hasn't rejoined |
| 13:37.22 | tsdgeos | please someone /query me if he does |
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| 13:38.52 | Tuju | yup, works now. |
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| 13:39.32 | Markus_KMi | I would have thought that more development would happen but nothing since 6 months apparently |
| 13:40.07 | Tuju | someone submitted a feature request for fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1253282 |
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| 13:43.02 | Markus_KMi | "someone" who happens to have a name Tuju is an abbreviation of ;) |
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| 13:43.30 | ntz | hello |
| 13:43.32 | shevy | redhat prefers gnome |
| 13:44.16 | Markus_KMi | Fedora-KDE accepts poisonous personalities as leaders |
| 13:44.30 | tosky | Markus_KMi: uh? Look at all branches, not just master, if you talk about akonadi-next |
| 13:45.07 | ntz | is there a way to tell to KDE (maybe not a KDE issue) to make a fullscreen app on specified display ? eg I have two displayes 1600x900+1200x19200 (yes, rotated to right) and I want to make my rdesktop window (with -g 1200x1920) to be fulsscreen on display #2 |
| 13:45.44 | shevy | Markus_KMi now now now that's nothing compared to systemd devs |
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| 13:46.22 | Markus_KMi | ntz: Fullscreen: Sorry, ho idea. Windowes apps would be right click on title bar under More Actions menu |
| 13:46.46 | Markus_KMi | shevy: Yeah, right⦠|
| 13:46.47 | tosky | ntz: do you meant that the application does not go fullscreen? |
| 13:47.02 | ntz | tosky: it does, but it jumps to primary laptop display |
| 13:47.04 | tosky | shevy: that bug is about Fedora and it has nothing to do with Red Hat or Gnome |
| 13:47.41 | shevy | tosky yeah, fedora has nothing to do with Red Hat |
| 13:47.54 | tosky | ntz: uhm, sorry; I use just one monitor so I don't know too much, but maybe you can simply force it with a kwin rule (see Special Application settings) |
| 13:48.05 | tosky | shevy: this is not what I wrote |
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| 13:48.11 | Tuju | i'm sensing some sarcasm on channel. |
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| 13:49.28 | Markus_KMi | Kevin of Fedora-KDE is on a good day worse than Linus Torvalds on a bad day. |
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| 13:50.26 | Tuju | back then i felt that #fedora-kde is a channel were i do belong. After some weeks, i just couldn't stay there. |
| 13:50.37 | shevy | I bet Ulrich Drepper is much cuddlier than Kevin. |
| 13:50.38 | Tuju | 'where i belong to' |
| 13:50.58 | tosky | now it's definitely OT |
| 13:51.03 | Tuju | and hanging out in #fedora-devel or so is just fine. |
| 13:51.35 | Tuju | tosky: well, KDE is a bit alien in fedora even these days. |
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| 13:51.50 | shevy | tosky ah ok sorry. Didn't know you were at red hat - I'll limit my red hat complaints here then. |
| 13:51.51 | Markus_KMi | Kevin is an avid hater of akonadi. He's also at liberty to insult anybody because he's an operator. Maybe you'll get kdepim-noakonadi because of him |
| 13:52.35 | tosky | shevy: that's not the point; I'm not in the desktop group nor in the RHEL group, you can easily check; I stated a fact |
| 13:52.37 | Tuju | and for Kevin's merits, he is technically very skilled guy. |
| 13:52.55 | shevy | tosky no problem, I can understand the conflict of interest there |
| 13:53.16 | tosky | shevy: there is no conflict of interest for decisions taken on open source projects |
| 13:53.31 | shevy | oh ok |
| 13:54.10 | tosky | that said, really, the fact that the package above will go in has nothing to do with Red Hat or Gnome; that was my point |
| 13:54.46 | Markus_KMi | Tuju: He's mentally unstable who bans people on the grounds that they answer to "how can I play mp4 files in amarok" answer that phonon-vlc works and god forbid you say anything against Konqueror+KHTML being a reasonable default for all users ⦠:D |
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| 13:56.13 | Tuju | people once talked about these fights on -devel channel and he came to shout there "how dare you talk behind his back about him?" - someone answered him "not back, we're doing it here on channel publicly." :) |
| 13:56.16 | tekkkz | Hello! Someone an idea why the dropbox icon is not shown in my kde5 tray? |
| 13:56.34 | Markus_KMi | tekkkz: Yes |
| 13:56.44 | tekkkz | ya? |
| 13:56.55 | Markus_KMi | Dropbox uses the deprecated xembed protocol for systray icons |
| 13:57.01 | tekkkz | no |
| 13:57.08 | tekkkz | i think they have upgraded it? |
| 13:57.17 | tekkkz | or am i wrong? |
| 13:57.24 | Markus_KMi | deprecated since years (also by Unity on Ubuntu), finally removed in Plasma 5. Dropbox decided not to react |
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| 13:57.46 | ntz | Tuju: I know severaly technically skilled guys who are lapidary said complete idiots |
| 13:57.48 | tekkkz | okay. but i can get it back with libappindicator right? |
| 13:57.50 | Tuju | i believe that The great desktop war is over and all axes are buried when fedora installation programs give up gtk and start using qt. |
| 13:57.54 | ntz | **several |
| 13:57.57 | Markus_KMi | At least Dropbox and Skype are among the few candidates often mentioned# |
| 13:58.13 | tekkkz | so do i need libappindicator or sni-qt ? |
| 13:58.20 | tosky | the problem of tekkkz, if I remember correctly, is that Dropbox works on one of the machines used, but not on the other |
| 13:58.21 | Tuju | ntz: yup, these two things go hand in hand. |
| 13:58.32 | tekkkz | tosky, yeah |
| 13:58.38 | Markus_KMi | Tuju: So he banned me from IRC, I unsubscribed from all fedora mailing lists and continue my packaging in my own OBS repo where my specfiles are public |
| 13:58.42 | tekkkz | but now i reinstlled arch on my main machine where it worked |
| 13:58.47 | tekkkz | and now it doesnt work anymore .. |
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| 13:58.59 | tosky | uh |
| 13:59.05 | ntz | Markus_KMi: why don't you write an email to irc related fedora mailing list ? |
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| 13:59.09 | Tuju | Markus you ended up to his shitlies apparently :) |
| 13:59.12 | ntz | do it ... |
| 13:59.37 | Markus_KMi | ntz: No. I won't be part of any community that accepts him as a leader |
| 14:00.15 | ntz | I hate it ... for instance in centos/rhel related chans are unfortunatelly lot of real idiots and petty dictators ... I can compare with other chans ... no worry |
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| 14:00.24 | Markus_KMi | And I bet I'm not the only potencial contributer pissed off because of him |
| 14:00.55 | tosky | ntz: I would use "some" channels at most, because it's not in all for sure |
| 14:01.00 | Markus_KMi | I don't care if my ban is lifted or not. I won't rejoin |
| 14:01.46 | ntz | Markus_KMi: then contribute for suse (suse-kde - probably the best kde implementation) and to solaris ... I can tell you that we're completely friendly, fully adult and rational |
| 14:01.59 | Tuju | in my experience, #postgresql has the best atmospehere on all Freenode channels that i've been at. |
| 14:02.09 | Markus_KMi | ntz: I continue to use Fedora but I use OBS |
| 14:02.12 | ntz | Tuju: hehe, #solaris has :) |
| 14:02.24 | ntz | and #perl ... |
| 14:02.28 | Tuju | they're very polite there and go great lenghts to help stranger people who come there for help. |
| 14:03.17 | Tuju | ntz both are pretty oldschool if you ask me :) |
| 14:03.44 | Markus_KMi | ntz: I am also an openSUSE user. It's installed on my older laptop. When I got my new one, openSUSE simply would boot, Fedora 20 did. So I just used that. I don't care much about the distributor |
| 14:04.17 | Tuju | hah, it would be interesting to see an article "The most hostile Freenode channel ever" in some lwn or so. :) |
| 14:04.22 | ntz | yep, and maybe that is the reason ... #solaris is my home channel .. we sometimes seem like bunch of molestatory clowns, but we don't kickban ppl, we don't educate others we only want to have fun |
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| 14:04.37 | Markus_KMi | openSUSE / OBS has a great packaging community |
| 14:04.50 | tosky | people, this could be interesting, but see the topic -> #kde-chat |
| 14:04.51 | Markus_KMi | way more approachable than COPR |
| 14:04.52 | ntz | yeah ... suse is my second home channel |
| 14:05.17 | Markus_KMi | tosky: I package mostly KDE software :D |
| 14:05.17 | ntz | sure ... this is OT, back to the business |
| 14:05.54 | tosky | there is channel for the OT, that's it |
| 14:06.30 | Markus_KMi | if kdepim-noakonadi packages ever turn up on https://build.opensuse.org/ I may even end up packaging it for Fedora just as practice |
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| 14:08.45 | Tuju | packaging 'em to kde crossed my mind too but then i remembered those fights on fedora - that always happen with all kde related. rather stay away from that. |
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| 14:08.54 | Tuju | err, to fedora. |
| 14:09.33 | Tuju | so all packages I sometimes maintain, have nothing to do with kde or those fights :) |
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| 14:12.15 | JyZyXEL | why are links clicked in Konsole suddenly opening in weird applications rather than in the browser? |
| 14:13.18 | Markus_KMi | JyZyXEL: KF5 Konsole or the older KP4 one? |
| 14:13.34 | JyZyXEL | Markus_KMi: KF5 |
| 14:13.59 | Markus_KMi | any example of a link? then I could try it here |
| 14:15.21 | JyZyXEL | http://i.imgur.com/3MHOVhB.jpg |
| 14:15.59 | JyZyXEL | for example it opens up in gwenview for me |
| 14:16.23 | Markus_KMi | huh, Firefox here |
| 14:16.45 | Markus_KMi | at least in the past there were some edge cases xdg-open opened something else than set in KDE System Settings |
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| 14:18.44 | Markus_KMi | maybe you could research how to access the xdg-open database directly |
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| 14:25.45 | FliPPeh | Jeez, what was with that guy earlier, highlighting the entire channel.. |
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| 14:27.26 | rdieter | Markus_KMi: on plasma5, xdg-open simply calls kde-open5, no magic |
| 14:28.36 | Markus_KMi | I was just guessing to give JyZyXEL a hint what he might look into |
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| 14:30.36 | rdieter | ok, no more need to guess :) |
| 14:32.02 | Markus_KMi | so what could be his problem then? |
| 14:32.10 | Markus_KMi | if its not xdg related |
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| 14:36.13 | rdieter | one thing: systemsettings5->applications->default applications->Web browser, is open "in applpication based on the contents of the URL" option selected? |
| 14:36.23 | rdieter | JyZyXEL: ^^ |
| 14:36.41 | rdieter | if so, that's why. in your example, an image will load in your default image viewer (for jpg's), if set |
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| 14:44.59 | Shinonome | [11:53] <r-ku> maol4_ members of this chatroom wish you <censored> <---- i fully endorse this ....lol |
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| 14:47.43 | Shinonome | (that was about the mass higlighting he did and being an ass afterward) |
| 14:47.52 | silver_hook | Em, mysql is running wild and plasma suddenly consumes 1 GiB memory â¦Iâm worried. |
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| 14:49.03 | knivsta | hi |
| 14:49.27 | Shinonome | silver_hook: sorry, i can't help there (I'm not knowldgeable about mysql) |
| 14:49.40 | Shinonome | hi |
| 14:50.08 | silver_hook | Shinonome: mysql here is a child process of akademy |
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| 14:53.37 | tosky | silver_hook: try akonadictl stop |
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| 14:53.47 | silver_hook | tosky: |
| 14:53.57 | silver_hook | tosky: Right, but what does that have to do with plasma? |
| 14:54.21 | tosky | silver_hook: Plasma 5? It should not be related at all, given that akonadi stable is kdelibs4 |
| 14:54.25 | silver_hook | 4 |
| 14:54.27 | tosky | uhm |
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| 14:54.41 | tosky | the calendar integration in the clock applet |
| 14:54.52 | tosky | (maybe) |
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| 15:09.46 | silver_hook | tosky: Nope. |
| 15:10.18 | silver_hook | The mysql stopped thrashing the CPU, but now plasma-desktop uses 100% of one core and still 25% of RAM. |
| 15:10.58 | silver_hook | I stopped the activity with the EventList (depending on Akonadi) and removed the Analogue Clock and the World Clock plasmoids, but no improvement.. |
| 15:11.50 | tosky | silver_hook: so it could be an unrelated issue |
| 15:12.03 | tosky | silver_hook: if it's just plasma-desktop, you can try to kill and restart it (in the same session) |
| 15:12.24 | silver_hook | tosky: I know, but it comes back |
| 15:12.32 | tosky | ah |
| 15:12.46 | tosky | do you see anything in ~/.xsession-errors ? |
| 15:13.03 | silver_hook | â¦also if you kill & restart it, it forgets about some activites that were started. |
| 15:14.23 | silver_hook | tosky: Yup. A bunch Akonadi, Plasma and Lancelot lines. |
| 15:14.43 | tosky | it depends on what the lines say |
| 15:14.53 | tosky | as for testing, I would try to remove lancelot too |
| 15:15.03 | tosky | did it happen after some external event? |
| 15:15.17 | silver_hook | Not that I know of. |
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| 15:17.37 | silver_hook | killed lancelot â¦no change |
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| 15:18.37 | tosky | do the lines on ~/.xsession-erros give some hint? |
| 15:19.19 | silver_hook | Thereâs a ton of: plasma-desktop(5920)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KTimeZoneBackend::offsetAtZoneTime: -> Using cache |
| 15:19.42 | silver_hook | QObject::startTimer: QTimer cannot have a negative interval |
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| 15:20.41 | silver_hook | pages and pages of it |
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| 15:27.12 | tosky | uhm, out of ideas - is this suddenly, or after a resume from suspension? Is the clock correct? (even if probably red herrings) |
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| 15:27.49 | silver_hook | time is correct |
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| 15:31.33 | tekkkz | Hello! Can someone confirm that on Arch Linux with sni-qt and libappindicator at KDE5 Plasma the dropbox systray is shown? at me it works |
| 15:31.40 | tekkkz | but on my laptop (different graphic drivers) it sodesnt works with the same setup, why? why is dropbox systray icon shown on my pc but not on my laptop? |
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| 15:37.47 | silver_hook | tosky: Iâm out of ideas as well. I just removed all plasmoids, even changed the background from Weather to Colour. I even changed the menu from the Top of Screen to just plain normal. |
| 15:37.53 | silver_hook | Still 23% memory. |
| 15:38.17 | tosky | silver_hook: I'm out of ideas as well; the other test I would do is with a fresh user |
| 15:38.39 | silver_hook | All Iâm left with now is 4 empty panels and 3 running Activities with no plasmoids. |
| 15:38.54 | silver_hook | (and several suspended ones, but that really shouldnât affect it) |
| 15:40.53 | tekkkz | silver_hook, whats your problem? |
| 15:41.47 | silver_hook | tekkkz: plasma-desktop consuming 90% of CPU and 23-26% of (6 GiB) RAM. |
| 15:42.05 | silver_hook | 23% with no plasmoids running. |
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| 15:42.15 | silver_hook | 25% if I have them as normal. |
| 15:42.15 | tekkkz | what are plasmoids? |
| 15:42.26 | silver_hook | Plasmaâs widgets. |
| 15:42.29 | tekkkz | ahh okay |
| 15:42.39 | tekkkz | and what for cpu do you have? |
| 15:43.23 | silver_hook | tekkkz: Intel i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz (4 cores) |
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| 15:43.48 | tekkkz | ahh cool , much better than mine :P and at me i have a total cpu usage of 30% :P |
| 15:43.49 | silver_hook | the CPU goes from 0 to 100% and back, but the memory consumption stays high all the time. |
| 15:43.56 | silver_hook | Exactly. |
| 15:44.03 | silver_hook | Not acceptable at all :/ |
| 15:44.10 | tekkkz | i have 8gb ram and i have permanently 1.5GB usage |
| 15:44.26 | tekkkz | but you really have a problem :D |
| 15:44.38 | silver_hook | tekkkz: Yea, but 6 GB RAM and permanently 5 GIB full, is not really cool. :/ |
| 15:44.50 | silver_hook | s/not really cool/*really* not cool :P |
| 15:45.05 | silver_hook | Anyway, so no concrete ideas? |
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| 15:47.52 | tekkkz | me? nah, i absolutely doesnt know anything about kde except how to install it :D |
| 15:49.04 | shevy | all the eyecandy demands RAM! |
| 15:49.17 | tekkkz | hehe :P but not so much |
| 15:49.32 | silver_hook | shevy: Nope, it doesnât. Itâs a bug. |
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| 15:50.51 | tekkkz | how is the program called for using a android phone as webcam? |
| 15:51.01 | silver_hook | Moo |
| 15:51.04 | silver_hook | Kamoso? |
| 15:51.08 | tekkkz | no |
| 15:51.12 | tekkkz | i mean an other one |
| 15:51.14 | silver_hook | Dunno, I donât have an Android. |
| 15:51.18 | silver_hook | KDE Connect? |
| 15:51.23 | tekkkz | no |
| 15:51.32 | tekkkz | when i got synced with dropbox ill have a look |
| 15:52.01 | tekkkz | man db is so slow, i have 65000 file there , total 4gb, and it takes 10 years for getting them all |
| 15:53.18 | shevy | 10 years |
| 15:53.26 | silver_hook | goes try the empty user test |
| 15:53.28 | silver_hook | Meh |
| 15:53.34 | silver_hook | I hate migrations⦠|
| 15:54.12 | tekkkz | migrations? |
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| 15:54.57 | silver_hook | tekkkz: If a bug if fixed with an empty user test, it usually is the easiest to work around it to migrate everything from the existing user to the new one and at the same time see at which point the bug replicates. |
| 15:55.01 | silver_hook | Annoying as hell. |
| 15:56.34 | tekkkz | haha :P much fun. btw, which distro do you use? |
| 15:56.57 | silver_hook | Mageia |
| 15:57.14 | tekkkz | what the hell is this? |
| 15:58.11 | silver_hook | Mageia? Itâs the current community descendent of the legendary Mandrake. |
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| 15:59.38 | shevy | may it rest in peace |
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| 16:00.51 | shevy | in fairness, mageia is going quite strong http://distrowatch.com/ |
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| 16:07.12 | vbgunz_ | Is it possible to make the "fade" effect on close apply to the minimize effect? |
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| 16:10.24 | tekkkz | which opengl version should i use as render backend and which interface? |
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| 16:15.10 | tekkkz | upps, i had a break |
| 16:15.18 | tekkkz | so, whats better, egl or glx? |
| 16:16.07 | rdieter | tekkkz: typically the defaults (glx), but customization depends all on graphics driver (and hardware) |
| 16:16.22 | tekkkz | and what is the difference between glx and egl? |
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| 16:16.56 | Markus_KMi | egl |
| 16:17.12 | Markus_KMi | if it works for you, it's better |
| 16:17.20 | tekkkz | okay cool, yeah, it works |
| 16:17.26 | tekkkz | why is it better? |
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| 16:17.42 | Markus_KMi | it's the future :) |
| 16:17.45 | rdieter | it's simpler |
| 16:17.58 | tekkkz | ahh okay |
| 16:18.03 | Markus_KMi | tekkkz: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/08/should-we-target-egl-as-the-default/ |
| 16:18.06 | tekkkz | i need to go off now, cu guys, byebye |
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| 16:32.36 | tekkkz | anyone an idea why my windows shadow isnt shown and the corners have black dots instead of roundings? |
| 16:33.17 | tomaz | tekkkz, check your graphics driver, this means that you didn't correctly initialized opengl / composite |
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| 16:33.43 | tekkkz | hm? where? how? |
| 16:34.02 | tomaz | tekkkz, open systemsettings and check if composite is enabled |
| 16:35.20 | tekkkz | yeah compositor runs on startup |
| 16:37.18 | tekkkz | or what do you mean? |
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| 16:38.11 | Markus_KMi | it could be a driver bug exposed by yout compositing settings. in that case report the bug to the driver developers |
| 16:38.17 | GreeningGalaxy | how usable/stable is Plasma 5 these days? I tried it about six months ago and it was kinda squirrely, but I'm interested in trying it out again if it's had progress since then. |
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| 16:40.09 | Markus_KMi | GreeningGalaxy: in 5.3 there are a few quirks but in general I like it. In two or so weeks 5.4 will be released |
| 16:41.11 | Markus_KMi | fedora and rolling release distros will hopefully pick it up fast |
| 16:41.18 | GreeningGalaxy | how are the levels of available theme/widget types of content for it, too? that was very minimal last I saw |
| 16:42.17 | Markus_KMi | I think it has gotten better after major distributions like kubuntu, fedora, and opensuse Tumbleweed adopted it by default and exposed it to a wider audience |
| 16:42.50 | Markus_KMi | personally I just use a 3rd party weather widget |
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| 16:43.14 | Markus_KMi | and Breeze Dark which is included but not enabed by default |
| 16:43.19 | GreeningGalaxy | oh, Kubuntu adopted it by default? |
| 16:43.33 | GreeningGalaxy | that about answers my question, then. heh |
| 16:43.33 | tekkkz | Markus_KMi, donoo, how to find out why shadows arent working? |
| 16:43.54 | Markus_KMi | tekkkz: Try other composite settings |
| 16:44.14 | tekkkz | what exactly do you mean? other opengl backend version or what? |
| 16:44.22 | Markus_KMi | tekkkz: yes |
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| 16:45.10 | Markus_KMi | GreeningGalaxy: 15.04 adopted Plasma 5 but thanks to Ubuntu's IMO rather ⦠um ⦠"unfortunate" package policies, it uses an outdated version and nothing newer as sactioned update |
| 16:45.20 | GreeningGalaxy | ah... |
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| 16:45.37 | Markus_KMi | you have to fiddle with PPAs to get newer releases |
| 16:46.17 | GreeningGalaxy | I use Debian now, which is pretty firmly locked on 4, but I was thinking of moving to a distro that has 5 available |
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| 16:47.13 | GreeningGalaxy | Chakra looks like a reasonably good option for that, AFAICT. It's at least upgradable to 5 |
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| 16:47.40 | tekkkz | btw, are my colors correct for breeze theme: http://i.imgur.com/Mw9SIba.png cause i switched the themes im not sure if this the correct grey now |
| 16:47.47 | Markus_KMi | I'd choose a distribution that does not forbid new Plasma versions as regular updates |
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| 16:48.31 | Markus_KMi | tekkkz: Do windows fade in? Maybe it falls back to software rendering |
| 16:49.08 | Markus_KMi | GreeningGalaxy: What are you looking for in a distribution? |
| 16:49.14 | tekkkz | Markus_KMi, first: are these the correct grey tone for breeze: http://i.imgur.com/Mw9SIba.png 2nd: what do you mean with fade in? |
| 16:50.32 | Markus_KMi | tekkkz: I dont use the regular breeze theme, so no idea about the grey. |
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| 16:50.51 | tekkkz | what are you using? (btw i got the shadow working, i need to use glx) |
| 16:51.03 | Markus_KMi | are you on nvidia? |
| 16:51.06 | GreeningGalaxy | Markus_KMi: I like me some stability, but I like to experiment too. |
| 16:51.20 | tekkkz | yap, nvidia, why? |
| 16:51.21 | GreeningGalaxy | Basically that doesn't narrow anything down, haha. I don't really know |
| 16:52.08 | Markus_KMi | tekkkz: As the blog post I posted to you earlier explains, only NVidia's beta drivers support EGL and Martin is looking for feedback |
| 16:52.10 | GreeningGalaxy | I like all the "Easy" distros I've tried well enough, but I also am hardly afraid of the command line. straight-up Arch was a bit much for me, though. |
| 16:52.39 | Markus_KMi | GreeningGalaxy: Do you want a large package selection? |
| 16:52.48 | GreeningGalaxy | that's nice, yes |
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| 16:56.01 | Markus_KMi | GreeningGalaxy: Well, in that case probably either openSUSE Tumbleweed or Fedora (or Korora https://kororaproject.org/discover/kde -- a usability-focused remix of Fedora) are probably good options |
| 16:56.33 | GreeningGalaxy | hmm |
| 16:56.41 | Markus_KMi | others really like KaOS but that on purpose limits its package selection to few packages |
| 16:56.56 | Markus_KMi | Chakra has a similar approach |
| 16:57.02 | Markus_KMi | KDE focus, few GTK packages |
| 16:57.49 | GreeningGalaxy | yeah, fair enough |
| 16:58.01 | GreeningGalaxy | is KaOS AUR compatible, though? |
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| 16:58.51 | Markus_KMi | No, it just uses Arch's package manager but it's not a fork of Arch |
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| 16:58.57 | GreeningGalaxy | right, right, okay |
| 16:59.13 | GreeningGalaxy | i just found that as you said that, lol |
| 16:59.13 | Markus_KMi | ah, Netrunner Rolling may also be a candidate |
| 16:59.35 | Markus_KMi | that is based on Arch but not as hardcore :) |
| 16:59.45 | GreeningGalaxy | korora looks pretty good |
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| 17:00.30 | Markus_KMi | Korora is the distribution I suggest most to others because thanks to its fedora base it has Red Hat's backing |
| 17:00.30 | GreeningGalaxy | although I am rather attracted by the Arch-based ones. |
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| 17:01.20 | Markus_KMi | Fire up VMware Player and try Netrunner Rolling |
| 17:01.33 | GreeningGalaxy | okay |
| 17:01.41 | Markus_KMi | and Korora KDE. |
| 17:01.59 | Markus_KMi | and whatever you like |
| 17:02.04 | rap_wrk | hey I am running plasma5 on arch, I have a strange isse when using dual monitors, most things work perfectly, excetp applications on the primary screen go under my pannel |
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| 17:02.25 | rap_wrk | is this a known issue, should I file a bug report somewhere? |
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| 17:03.38 | tekkkz | silver_hook, i got your problem!!! i know how to fix. maybe you have egl selected? then it takes more resources than with glx |
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| 17:32.19 | silver_hook | Well, dunno. I had Xrender, no idea where EGL should be. But now I changed it to OpenGL 3 and letâs see if it works better. |
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| 17:37.34 | silver_hook | Nope, already climbed up to 10% of RAM |
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| 17:41.52 | silver_hook | 90% CPU and 11% RAM. |
| 17:41.56 | silver_hook | Odd, odd odd |
| 17:51.51 | silver_hook | How stable is Plasma 5.1.2? |
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| 17:53.08 | rdieter | silver_hook: 5.1.x is pretty old, you sure you have the right version? |
| 17:53.24 | silver_hook | rdieter: I know â¦but thatâs the one thatâs in the latest Mageia stable. |
| 17:53.25 | rdieter | 5.3.2 is latest (5.4beta) |
| 17:53.53 | rdieter | I personally didn't try anything prior to 5.2 |
| 17:54.21 | silver_hook | Damn, thought so⦠|
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| 18:17.47 | tekkkz | can someone tell me if it is normal : https://sendvid.com/ztfsgtl6 |
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| 18:32.50 | silver_hook | tekkkz: It probably wasnât the EGL, but thanks anyway. I guess it was the WorkFlow plasmoid that was running although I wasnât using it anymore. |
| 18:33.02 | silver_hook | tekkkz: Whatâs becoming transparent? The panel? |
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| 18:37.47 | tekkkz | silver_hook, yeah, when i scroll between the vdesktops |
| 18:37.52 | tekkkz | you see? |
| 18:37.56 | silver_hook | I saw that yes. |
| 18:38.18 | silver_hook | TBH, no idea. Iâm still on KDE 4 and have an odd use of panels. |
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| 18:52.32 | tekkkz | ahh okay. do you like it like it is at mine? |
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| 18:55.33 | tekkkz | Anyone in kde5 who knows if this transparency at scrolling between virtual desktops is normal for breeze: https://sendvid.com/ztfsgtl6 |
| 18:59.11 | silver_hook | tekkkz: Nope, sorry. I have a very peculiar use :) |
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| 18:59.54 | tekkkz | hm? what does this means? |
| 19:00.14 | silver_hook | Lemme show you. |
| 19:02.29 | silver_hook | Thatâs how my deskop looks like (VD 1 on Activity âCommunicationâ): http://wstaw.org/m/2015/08/13/plasma-desktopaBC460.png |
| 19:02.53 | tekkkz | thats stupid |
| 19:04.45 | silver_hook | And thatâs if all hidden pannels and the Yakuake are visible ;) http://wstaw.org/m/2015/08/13/plasma-desktopFez460.png |
| 19:05.53 | silver_hook | If I move the mouse to the bottom left corner, I get the time and a quick calendar overview; in the bottom right corner I have the system tray. |
| 19:06.20 | Taoki | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/ Ugh... I hope KDE and its software will NEVER have anything like this. I'm so glad I am no longer using Windows nowadays. |
| 19:06.49 | silver_hook | To the left there is the Quick Chat plasmoid, so if someone pings me on Jabber, I can quickly reply there. On the right is the PasteBin plasmoid, so I can always paste something (like these screenshots) whenever I need it. |
| 19:07.27 | shevy | Taoki don't think it would make a lot of sense for KDE to require that, and KDE is open source you can look at code that would phone out, but I would not know why KDE would need that |
| 19:07.40 | silver_hook | I donât use the task bar, because I donât need it. I seldom have more than two windows on the same Virutal Desktop and mostly have it organised by Activities in combination with the VDs. |
| 19:07.46 | Taoki | Yep. Thankfully |
| 19:07.58 | silver_hook | tekkkz: So, it depends on how you look at it ;) |
| 19:08.32 | Taoki | Speaking of which: Is it actually possible to have the kickoff launcher search for web pages in its search bar? That's actually one of the things I might prefer, and don't see as a privacy evil all that much. |
| 19:08.48 | Taoki | Could be nice if websites appeared like applications in its list |
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| 19:10.50 | silver_hook | Taoki: Have you tried this in KRunner? |
| 19:11.14 | Taoki | Seems to work there. But I use kickoff more than alt + f2 |
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| 19:17.39 | silver_hook | Taoki: Well KRunner *is* the powerhorse here ;) |
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| 19:17.46 | clintar | hmm, did someone say my name? |
| 19:17.49 | clintar | doh |
| 19:18.09 | Taoki | Would be nice if kickoff and krunner were in some way combined |
| 19:18.22 | clintar | let me hit up, please |
| 19:18.34 | silver_hook | Taoki: Probably⦠|
| 19:18.46 | Taoki | There is? |
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| 19:19.05 | Taoki | IIRC there's no krunner launcher widget thingie, at least that suits someone used with launchers |
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| 19:19.24 | clintar | oh, krunner lets me hit up! |
| 19:19.39 | clintar | premature bitching |
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| 19:20.11 | clintar | now i just need the "Windows Can Cover" to work |
| 19:20.27 | clintar | in the panel |
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| 19:25.41 | tekkkz | clintar, is the tranparency at me normal at scorlling vdesks? |
| 19:26.52 | silver_hook | Meh, the memory use of `plasma-desktop` climbing again :/ |
| 19:27.01 | silver_hook | It just passed 16% |
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| 19:27.28 | silver_hook | The console output is clean, but the error output has 544171 lines already. |
| 19:27.48 | silver_hook | â¦of which 542221 are about "plasma-desktop(460)/kdecore" |
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| 19:28.37 | silver_hook | â¦and 542059 are about "KTimeZoneBackend::offsetAtZoneTime" (most of the /kdecore ones) |
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| 20:04.14 | silver_hook | Is it possible to delete the whole Plasma settings without affecting the Activities? |
| 20:04.22 | silver_hook | â¦probably not, eh? :/ |
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| 20:56.09 | tekkkz | Hi, anyone using KDE5 Plasma with breeze? |
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| 20:57.57 | tekkkz | at ca 10 seconds: https://sendvid.com/ztfsgtl6 is it normal that at switching the v desktops that the panel is getting more transparent? |
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| 22:28.11 | pwnagepineapple | My Plasma 5 install just keeps crashing every couple seconds completely randomly |
| 22:28.44 | pwnagepineapple | Backtrace is useless |
| 22:32.38 | pwnagepineapple | Any ideas? |
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| 22:33.36 | pwnagepineapple | Didn't think so |
| 22:33.45 | pwnagepineapple | Still thought I'd ask |
| 22:33.50 | pwnagepineapple | Oh well |
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