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00:17.28 | lacrymology | I get asked the password for the wallet at kde startup, but I can't find a gui to manage my keys, etc |
00:17.32 | lacrymology | sorry |
00:17.47 | lacrymology | does anyone know if there's a gui for kwallet? I can't find it |
00:18.03 | lacrymology | as I said before, it gets unlocked at the beginning, the daemon is running, but I can't find a gui |
00:18.29 | thiago | kwalletmanager |
00:19.28 | lacrymology | that doesn't exist |
00:19.32 | lacrymology | let me see if I find a package |
00:20.28 | lacrymology | there it is |
00:20.31 | lacrymology | thanks, thiago |
00:22.18 | lacrymology | okay, so, I've got my .gnupg directory from my old box, can I import that? |
00:23.23 | thiago | I don't think kwalletmanager manages GPG keys |
00:24.28 | lacrymology | really |
00:24.43 | lacrymology | hm |
00:24.47 | lacrymology | but it can be encrypted using pgp |
00:25.00 | lacrymology | at least it offered me to do it the first time, but I didn't have my key set up yet |
00:25.22 | thiago | PGP/GPG can do symmetric key encryption of files |
00:25.27 | thiago | that has nothing to do with private keys |
00:26.11 | thiago | I don't know if kwallet can encrypt your wallet with your asymmetric keys. But even if it can, kwallet/kwalletmanager have nothing to do with importing your old keys. |
00:27.35 | lacrymology | thiago: yes, I got that part. I just remembered it offering using pgp the first time, but failing because I didn't have a key, and I thought it did |
00:28.01 | lacrymology | also, I'm coming from unity ubuntu, and the keyring there handles all keys, the gpg keyring |
00:28.05 | lacrymology | ssh keys, everything |
00:28.10 | lacrymology | I assumed it'd be the same thing |
00:28.29 | thiago | gnome-keyring works differently |
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00:29.48 | lacrymology | right |
00:29.57 | lacrymology | pity. I liked it |
00:30.12 | lacrymology | but I'm not installing a bunch of gnome libs just to have a keyring |
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00:34.42 | lacrymology | installing kgpg and it requires smbclient... wat? |
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00:36.19 | thiago | indirect dependency |
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07:55.32 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
07:55.55 | cousin_luigi | Where are the filetypes stored? Not necessarily the associations. |
07:57.41 | cousin_luigi | nm, found it |
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08:11.00 | portnov | hi all |
08:11.26 | portnov | Q: where can i adjust settings for KDE4-based apps while running KDE5? |
08:11.40 | portnov | for example in my case I want to change default DPI |
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08:12.03 | portnov | i configured it in systemsettings, but it seems it affected only kde5 apps |
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08:17.55 | portnov | O_o |
08:17.57 | frenda | When your mind changes to type sth else, the only way is to use back-space key, while ctrl-A could make it easier |
08:18.56 | frenda | Indeed, ctrl-A does not work into app-dash (application dashboard) |
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08:20.48 | frenda | Ctrl-A: http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/77075 (img) |
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08:38.37 | portnov | :/ |
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10:54.57 | lord_rob | Hi! When I want to mount a CD/DVD/Bluray in KDE I see it mounted in /media/robert/foo but I cannot access it unless I'm root. I see the problem is the same with udisks2, so it's not KDE specific. Anybody knows what's happening there ? |
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12:35.58 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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13:29.05 | qwerty_ | Hello, russian characters are displayed with question marks in dolphin. Can anyone help me? I use plasma 5 |
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13:35.21 | BlaXpirit | qwerty_, well that's strange, shouldn't they just use a different font? |
13:35.28 | BlaXpirit | anyway, qwerty_, please switch to a real font |
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13:35.45 | BlaXpirit | e.g. DejaVu Sans, Ubuntu |
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13:37.57 | BlaXpirit | i dont understand how this toy font could be picked AND why distros don't change the default at least for languages unsupported by the font |
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13:43.35 | qwerty_ | BlaXpirit, changed to deja vu sans, that didn't help |
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13:45.27 | BlaXpirit | qwerty_, i dunno, maybe you didn't configure locale somehow. is it by chance arch linux? |
13:45.41 | qwerty_ | BlaXpirit, yup |
13:46.02 | BlaXpirit | qwerty_, uh try to follow beginner's tutorial more closely, where the part about locales is |
13:46.13 | BlaXpirit | i installed arch linux like a week ago and also had "???" in konsole |
13:46.25 | BlaXpirit | because i missed something |
13:46.41 | BlaXpirit | just confirms that the installation instructions keep getting worse |
13:47.21 | qwerty_ | BlaXpirit, well, I can type in russian in console, but 'ls' shows "???" instead of lile names |
13:47.43 | BlaXpirit | yes, qwerty_, i had something very similar or exactly the same |
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13:51.39 | rizwan | Hi |
13:52.16 | BluesKaj | I don't understand why arch doesn't create global installer like most other proper OSs. I guess one is supposed to learn about linux along the way while following the installation instructions , but if the instruction set is flawed then a case can be made for a proper installer |
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13:53.11 | BlaXpirit | BluesKaj, there is a third party distro+installer |
13:53.29 | BlaXpirit | and arch also used to have a terminal gui installer |
13:53.55 | BlaXpirit | but as it is, it's just fine. if only they didn't keep making the instructions worse all the time |
13:54.13 | qwerty_ | BluesKaj, the installer isn't needed actually, you install almost all you need with "pacstrap /mnt base". Everything else is n fact configuration of your system |
13:54.15 | BluesKaj | BlaXpirit: then maybe arch should officially adopt it if it works |
13:54.36 | BlaXpirit | naah, BluesKaj, that's not elitist enough |
13:57.18 | BluesKaj | elitist ? fine ,that's a real intelligent way to attrcat new users |
13:57.32 | BluesKaj | attract even |
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13:58.17 | BlaXpirit | i mean i soud ironic but that's how it is. still best distro |
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14:01.33 | BluesKaj | BlaXpirit: well, you're entitled to that opinion, personall, after inputting the commands I had a successful installation, but it wasn't anything special IMO |
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14:02.07 | BluesKaj | especially after the length of time it took to do so |
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14:04.19 | qwerty_ | BluesKaj, nothing special? what about aur? |
14:04.30 | BluesKaj | maybe arch suffers from too much hype |
14:06.12 | Verge | Fanboys always hype their stuff |
14:06.16 | BluesKaj | a repos is a repos |
14:07.21 | Verge | More often than not a package in AUR won't compile |
14:07.30 | Verge | Or fails the hash check |
14:08.11 | Verge | Ubuntu has a comprehensive source of 3rd party _pre-built_ packages |
14:09.20 | BluesKaj | yeah I recall some packages building successfully in aur, but i think it's not a fully finish build/packaging system |
14:09.54 | BluesKaj | Verge: and tested |
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14:26.56 | MoonUnit` | arch aur poor selection since the move to aur4 |
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14:29.06 | BluesKaj | TBH it's been a few yrs since I tried arch, maybe it has an improved experience compared to the past versions |
14:29.58 | BluesKaj | but rolling disros never seem finshed som how |
14:32.55 | Keziolio | arch is cool, it's pretty stable until you install kde |
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14:38.59 | BlaXpirit | ^this |
14:40.12 | MoonUnit` | yup dumped plasma5 last night |
14:40.19 | MoonUnit` | had enough of the bugs |
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15:01.04 | BluesKaj | MoonUnit`: which DE are you using instead? |
15:02.11 | MoonUnit` | Mate |
15:03.16 | BluesKaj | odd, I'm on plasma 5.4.2 and I had one freeze right after the tnstall, but now after some upgrades all is well. |
15:03.43 | BlaXpirit | lucky you |
15:03.51 | genstorm | BluesKaj: plasma-5 exposes some issues on certain hardware/driver combinations |
15:04.01 | BluesKaj | not lucky, just persisitent' |
15:04.19 | genstorm | no problem on my boxes either, except for the odd baloo/akonadi hiccup |
15:04.32 | MoonUnit` | plasmashell was locking up regularly and yesterday after a reboot desktop folder mode was gone. had enough after that. |
15:05.42 | BluesKaj | genstorm: no kidding, I'm not a big fan, but I'm getting over the issues I have with it |
15:06.21 | BlaXpirit | with the feature loss, task manager panel is not much better than windows |
15:06.21 | BluesKaj | genstorm: I disable those 2 pitas |
15:06.26 | BlaXpirit | i mean Windows 7 |
15:08.14 | BluesKaj | BlaXpirit: yeah, I'm still waiting for some dropped features to return, but i still have a stable kubuntu as my backup OS |
15:08.39 | BluesKaj | which doesn't use plasma 5 |
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15:26.24 | vHanda | genstorm: what the problem with Baloo? |
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15:32.12 | genstorm | vHanda: some segfaults *searches for bug* |
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15:32.28 | vHanda | right, those should be fixed with the new release (5.15), |
15:32.34 | vHanda | we had a lot of memory corruption issues. |
15:33.09 | genstorm | vHanda: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353107 |
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15:36.50 | genstorm | vHanda: and then there is that segfault whenever I type some letters into krunner |
15:37.00 | vHanda | genstorm: Right. I'm leaving it open for now. Lets see if we get any more crashes with the latest release. |
15:37.08 | vHanda | These all are fixed in theory, but we can only reproduce some of them. |
15:37.13 | genstorm | I'll be first to test |
15:37.13 | vHanda | ouch |
15:37.24 | vHanda | I think the release is this week |
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15:38.07 | vHanda | feel free to ping me if you still get any more crashes, or write it on the bug report. |
15:39.20 | genstorm | vHanda: thx, will do |
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15:39.47 | genstorm | hm, might as well build from git master right now |
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16:00.19 | genstorm | oh, gwenview-15.08 claims to not support tif metadata? |
16:01.24 | genstorm | surely that's a mistake |
16:02.46 | genstorm | got it |
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16:14.03 | Egyptian[Home] | help . i just updated my system kde5 /f22 and now my mouse cursor is invisible... |
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16:19.49 | lufu | Does kwin in KDE 4.14 have native support for tiling? |
16:20.44 | ChemBro | it had |
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16:21.30 | lufu | So when I'm running KDE 4.14 I can activate it? If so how? |
16:21.39 | ChemBro | no, you can't |
16:21.52 | lufu | What happend to that feature? |
16:22.07 | ChemBro | dumped, because there was no dev to finish it |
16:23.35 | lufu | I see, thanks for the information. |
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16:28.09 | Egyptian[Home] | anyone know how to make my mouse cursor visible again ? |
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16:50.40 | pdobrogost_ | Hi! It seems there's some problem with systray icon of Instant Messanging - I have blank place in systray for it. Is this a known issue? |
16:52.09 | pdobrogost_ | The workaround is to uncheck "Instanting Messanging (Automaic Load)" in system tray settings/extra items and check it again. |
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16:57.29 | Egyptian[Home] | i copied a .kde directory from my other machine and now i have my mouse cursor back but the 2nd monitor is missing the background and right mouse clicks |
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18:00.06 | Keziolio | look, a bug: http://i.imgur.com/pau5OuL.png |
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18:02.08 | Keziolio | uhm ok not exactly a bug |
18:02.41 | Keziolio | well, kinda, the panels get randomly moved |
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18:17.31 | jaggzt | hmm |
18:17.41 | jaggzt | why's my messages log filled with "org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication." ? |
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19:17.03 | memleak | hi all! I tarred up a Linux system and for the first time ever, I get this problem when disabling KDE wallet: Sorry, the system security policy didn't allow you to save the changes. |
19:17.47 | Verge | Did you run out of disk spac |
19:17.48 | Verge | e |
19:18.03 | memleak | no, but the initial login of KDE after making a new user, says I did. |
19:18.24 | Verge | Then you ought to double check |
19:18.46 | memleak | userdel -rf user && useradd -m -G users,audio,video,wheel -s /bin/bash userhere && /etc/init.d/kdm start -> login -> you're out of space |
19:18.58 | memleak | its a 500GB partition with only 6GB used |
19:19.05 | memleak | its a fresh install |
19:19.14 | memleak | from a tarred up system |
19:19.23 | memleak | the system that the tarball came from, works fine |
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19:19.51 | memleak | and it only happens on the very first login. |
19:20.49 | memleak | It's KDE 4 btw compiled without PIM and it's using sqlite |
19:20.55 | memleak | mysql is bloat |
19:21.32 | memleak | something in KDE must be hard coded to the system the tar came from |
19:23.01 | memleak | the KDE magic testing system to see if you're out of space has always sucked. It's been that way for years with making new users. |
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19:56.37 | memleak | im gunna try a few things, brb |
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20:00.32 | memleak | Reinstalling kdm, consolekit, dbus, polkit, systemsettings, kdelibs, networkmanager, accountsservice and plasma-runtime fixed it :) |
20:01.02 | memleak | BOOM BABY!!!!!!!!!! Alright guys, i'm out, take careeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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20:25.13 | viric | Hello KDE |
20:25.28 | viric | I'm trying to have kdenlive running without running kde |
20:25.40 | viric | and I miss common icons, like those of New, Open, ... |
20:25.53 | viric | I have oxygen icons installed. What else may I miss? Anyone knows? |
20:26.14 | ChemBro | breeze icons? |
20:26.20 | viric | may be. Let me check |
20:26.28 | viric | (I have no idea of these kde names) |
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20:26.48 | Fuchs | oxygen was the default in 4.*, breeze in 5.* |
20:26.52 | Fuchs | so that is worth a try. |
20:27.00 | viric | great! Thank you |
20:27.14 | viric | Would a program use both? |
20:27.57 | ChemBro | 15.04 used a mix from both |
20:28.29 | ChemBro | because breeze wasn't finished |
20:28.44 | viric | ah clear |
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20:38.19 | viric | fail for breeze. meh. |
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20:38.49 | viric | I still miss icons |
20:38.54 | viric | no improvement. |
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20:39.40 | destinthegreat | what qt browser do you guys use for day to day activities? |
20:40.22 | destinthegreat | I tried konqueror and qupzilla but ran in to troubles with google docs. Otter browser had its own quirks, arora browser was apparantly dead so i didn't try that |
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20:41.19 | Fuchs | viric: could you test whether other KDE / Qt apps also have missing icons? |
20:41.23 | Fuchs | Maybe you need to configure the icon theme |
20:41.31 | viric | Fuchs: maybe. How would I do that? |
20:41.42 | viric | what other kde application I could build? |
20:41.55 | Fuchs | viric: sanest way I am aware of is using systemsettings(5) via the icons kcm, but that might pull in some dependencies you don't want, |
20:42.11 | Fuchs | and afair qtconfig doesn't have settings for icons. Build? Is that gentoo? |
20:42.11 | tosky | viric: install the frameworksintegration package, and export XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=KDE |
20:42.24 | Fuchs | if yes: ^ |
20:42.31 | viric | nah, not gentoo |
20:42.34 | viric | NixOS |
20:42.56 | viric | All works if I just bring in all kde5 |
20:44.06 | tosky | viric: as I said, you probably miss the frameworksintegration plugin, the idea is that your desktop environment should provide an alternative one to better integrate Qt applications running under it |
20:44.28 | tosky | viric: so you need the plugin installed AND export a variable to explicitly load it |
20:44.42 | tosky | viric: of course you don't need Plasma for that |
20:45.21 | viric | tosky: ah, do you mean about getting the icons, or choosing the theme? |
20:45.34 | tosky | viric: all the integration |
20:46.29 | viric | I started kfourinline, also missing icons |
20:46.38 | viric | tosky: is the 'integration' about getting icons? |
20:47.04 | viric | isntalling |
20:47.07 | tosky | about many things |
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20:47.34 | viric | got the icons! |
20:47.38 | viric | thank you a lot, tosky |
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20:49.17 | viric | tosky: isn't that XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP variable harmful, in some situations? If the 'desktop' weren't kde, for eample |
20:49.20 | viric | example |
20:49.43 | tosky | viric: I really don't know, sorry |
20:50.09 | tosky | viric: I think that there are other ways to trigger the loading of the platform plugin, but I didn't try them |
20:50.17 | viric | ok |
20:50.25 | viric | hm now it cannot open files... |
20:50.35 | viric | all fails in file open. |
20:50.47 | viric | it doesn't see any directory |
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20:50.50 | tosky | viric: see https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=224&t=128101#p341075 |
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20:51.16 | viric | ok |
20:51.57 | viric | tosky: without the variable I don't have icons, but I can open files |
20:52.06 | viric | with the variable, I have icons, but I can't open files |
20:53.40 | tosky | and it works under Plasma? Did you restart the session after installing? Can you set the variable before loading the desktop? |
20:53.59 | viric | I don't use any 'desktop' |
20:54.04 | viric | I use a small window manager |
20:54.17 | viric | but I want to run kdenlive. |
20:54.19 | tosky | same, replace it in the question above |
20:54.26 | tosky | and it works under Plasma? Did you restart the session after installing? Can you set the variable before loading the window manager? |
20:54.30 | viric | ok |
20:54.41 | viric | Hm I can't test it now... I don't have the plasma |
20:55.47 | viric | hm it complains about ksycoca5, klauncher, ... |
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20:57.02 | tosky | missing? |
20:57.06 | viric | sure, missing |
20:57.13 | tosky | runtime dependencies, I guess you want them |
20:57.23 | viric | yes, I wish I knew what are those. |
20:58.13 | viric | I need the kded5 |
21:02.59 | viric | ksycoca5 and kbuildsycoca5 is not the same thing... |
21:04.36 | tosky | uh? kbuildsycoca5 generates the cache (ksycoca5) |
21:04.51 | viric | I understand really little about kde... |
21:05.33 | viric | it is very big :) |
21:05.43 | tosky | kbuildsycoca5 has a man page |
21:06.06 | viric | klauncher said: protocol unknown «file» |
21:06.08 | tosky | this is all about Frameworks; KDE is something much different |
21:06.12 | tosky | do you have kio installed? |
21:06.20 | viric | sure not |
21:06.24 | viric | I install drop by drop |
21:06.41 | tosky | no dependencies provided by the package manager? |
21:06.48 | viric | Build dependencies. |
21:06.59 | viric | hm and kio wants some phonon things |
21:07.06 | viric | is phonon related to file dialogs? |
21:07.10 | tosky | no automatic resolution of build dependencies? |
21:07.16 | tosky | no, audio |
21:07.26 | viric | ok |
21:07.40 | viric | now, with kio, it says plugin "kf5/kio/file" not found |
21:07.59 | tosky | who? CMake? |
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21:16.36 | viric | tosky: running kdenlive |
21:16.54 | viric | tosky: "klauncher answered: couldn't find kf5/kio/file |
21:18.59 | viric | ah, restarting kded5 and so on, it worked |
21:19.07 | viric | now files/folders don't have icons :) |
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21:57.14 | viric | by the way, 50% of my clicks on a menu bar open the menu. |
21:57.33 | viric | the other 50% just highlights the menu bar menu. |
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22:05.18 | poboiko | Hey guys! I want to add an AP wifi hotspot on my laptop using plasma-nm (Plasma 5.4.1 using Gentoo here), I add one in settings, but it doesn't appear in applet itself. "iw" tool says my wifi-card supports AP mode. Any ideas? |
22:10.14 | thiago | try to force it on, manually |
22:10.34 | thiago | nmcli c up "connection name goes here" |
22:10.39 | thiago | does that work? |
22:11.32 | poboiko | I don't have nmcli installed, wait a moment :) |
22:11.38 | poboiko | It's gentoo, so I have to build it :P |
22:12.35 | poboiko | oh, damn. I have |
22:13.31 | poboiko | thiago: nmcli says "Connection 'network-name' is not available on the device wlp2s0 at this time." |
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22:15.25 | thiago | disconnect from your current wifi connection to try it |
22:17.23 | poboiko | oh, apparently it was connected to Ad-hoc network I created when I was playing with it. But applet didn't show it. Weird. |
22:17.51 | poboiko | ok, now it says "Error: Connection activation failed: No suitable device found for this connection." |
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22:19.23 | thiago | so it's an NM problem |
22:19.39 | thiago | make sure you have hostapd and dnsmasq installed too |
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22:20.37 | poboiko | that was the first thing I googled :) yeah, they are installed |
22:21.27 | poboiko | ok, gonna ping them. thanks for the help :) |
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22:24.58 | poboiko | it might be that wpa_supplicant is built without AP support... going to try that |
22:25.05 | SJr | Plasmashell keeps crashing or having issues when my monitor configuration changes. This was happening in 5.2 and 5.4. I'm using Arch and 5.4 |
22:25.20 | genstorm | SJr: is that qt-5.4 or 5.5? |
22:25.26 | SJr | qt 5.5 |
22:25.53 | genstorm | ouch - I did place my bets on the upgrade |
22:26.01 | SJr | At least that is what konsole says it is compiled with :) |
22:26.16 | SJr | Lol yeah I switched from Kubuntu to Arch for the latest version :) |
22:26.34 | genstorm | SJr: qtwidgets is the one segfaulting all the time, for me |
22:26.49 | genstorm | but all qt packages must be at the same version anyway, if arch even cares to split them |
22:27.11 | SJr | I don't think that's true, e.g., konqueror is using QT 4.8.7 |
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22:27.22 | genstorm | SJr: well that's qt-4 |
22:27.25 | genstorm | different matter |
22:27.31 | SJr | Ah |
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22:39.40 | poboiko | thiago: is it possible to make networkmanager be more specific? both NetworkManager and wpa_supplicant logs doesn't say anything about my attempts (at least, there is no time correlation with my "nmcli" command) :( |
22:40.08 | viric | tosky: thank you! it works enough for me; I don't need the file dialog icons. Bye! |
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23:13.27 | holgersson | Hello everyone! I have trouble uploading wallpapers to kde-look.org. When I create new artwork or update old one I can select a picture to upload, but when I go to "save" the pages says I need to add a download link. |
23:13.52 | obZen | Hi, I was told to recompile kservice with the debug statements in KMimeAssociations::parseRemovedAssociations enabled |
23:14.06 | obZen | What exactly am I enabling? |
23:14.14 | obZen | In the source code, I see a void function... |
23:14.20 | obZen | and don't know what to really do |
23:14.33 | holgersson | Can someone confirm this behaviour - and even better - tell me what do to about it? kde-look.org doesn't respond to my mails :( |
23:19.03 | tosky | holgersson: kde-look.org, despite the name, is not under kde.org control |
23:20.07 | holgersson | tosky: I know, but I hoped to reach some KDE users here who upload wallpapers there. |
23:20.11 | holgersson | *hope |
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