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00:02.35 | utack | Hi. Is it a known bug that in plasma 5.4.2 in arch the scaling option does not work fully, even after reboot? Lots of stuff is still scaled at 1x, when it is set to 2x (window borders for example) |
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00:49.16 | p00dle | i cant seem to find the option to turn on double-click to open in dolphin. did it get removed? |
00:50.48 | demm | p00dle: systemsettings > input devices > mouse |
00:51.11 | codextremist | I was a GNOME happy user for more than 7 years, but I finally switched to KDE Plasma 5 (which is so damn nice). So far I like it a lot, however from time to time some apps are crashing. Im running the 5.4.2 version. What could be the main causes of such crashes? Anything I can do to reduce such problems (i.e disable 3D accelaration, etc?) What are the experience of other users? |
00:51.34 | p00dle | demm: thanks! |
00:51.55 | codextremist | or is KDE plasma 5 just not mature yet? |
00:52.37 | p00dle | codextremist: plasma 5 != kde applications |
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00:53.54 | p00dle | i experienced some crashes here and there. especially in system-settings and kdepim stuff |
00:54.31 | codextremist | p00dle: that is true, but why apps are crashing so much? From my understanding, crashes were not "so usual" with kde 4 |
00:56.59 | p00dle | codextremist: move from Qt4 -> Qt5, parts of apps were rewritten to make them more modular |
00:57.02 | codextremist | p00dle: I experience many system-settings crashes here too . Another thing that is so frustrating is hot-plugging monitors. From time to time I experience black screens which goes away only upon system reboot |
00:57.55 | p00dle | i found that moving from catalyst back to the open-source radeon driver helped a lot |
00:58.43 | codextremist | in my case I'm running nvidia proprietary drivers |
01:00.49 | p00dle | best thing to do is to report bugs |
01:01.52 | p00dle | most of the crashes i get are very minor |
01:02.18 | p00dle | except akregator is completely borked on my system. corrupts its database every time it exists. |
01:02.26 | p00dle | exits* |
01:02.42 | codextremist | p00dle: sure! Just hope that these bugs won't piss me off to the point that I have to switch back to unity/gnome |
01:02.53 | p00dle | kdepim stuff in general looks like it could use some love |
01:03.32 | codextremist | p00dle: same here! korganizer is also crashing here and there |
01:03.33 | p00dle | codextremist: what distro are you on? do you have kde applications 15.08? |
01:04.45 | codextremist | p00dle: I was planning to install it on Arch (my devel machine is running Arch with I3), but then I went the easy path with Kubuntu |
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01:06.56 | p00dle | p00dle: a lot of the problems people are having with plasma 5 are caused by kubuntu shipping outdated versions of kde stuff |
01:07.19 | p00dle | i'm running plasma 5 on arch and it's been great |
01:07.34 | p00dle | actually switched from i3 as well |
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01:09.19 | tajjada_ | I am developing a Qt application, which does not display correctly in the KDE Breeze theme, and I believe it is Breeze's fault. |
01:09.25 | tajjada_ | the Qt documentation says: "Unlike palette fiddling, style sheets offer guarantees: If you set the background color of a QPushButton to be red, you can be assured that the button will have a red background in all styles, on all platforms." |
01:09.49 | codextremist | p00dle: didn't know that, but I makes sense. With Arch you always get fresh stuff, which is quite important when you want to use the last software out there |
01:09.50 | tajjada_ | I use a stylesheet to set the colour of a QPushButton as part of the functionality of my UI, but Breeze overrides the colour to its blue. |
01:10.33 | tajjada_ | The usability of my UI depends on the colour of that button being what my code sets it to, but in the Breeze theme, it always looks blue. |
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01:12.10 | tajjada_ | It works correctly in every other theme I tried. |
01:13.14 | p00dle | codextremist: i always felt that the debian-stable package management model (i'm using a 2yo distro, so give me 2yo versions of all my apps) has no place on personal desktops/workstations |
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01:14.01 | p00dle | on servers/enterprise desktops it makes sense |
01:14.43 | p00dle | but i like running bleeding edge stuff on my pc |
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01:15.52 | codextremist | p00dle: true, same here. I was just too lazy to setup everything on Arch (last time I had some headache with some drivers). I'll take a time to install Arch on my machine and try KDE Plasma on it |
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02:36.17 | Tarminquay | Hey. |
02:36.52 | Tarminquay | I used to use GNOME but since I've switched to KDE I'm really loving my desktop more than ever before. |
02:36.56 | Tarminquay | Any GNOME users in here? |
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03:52.43 | bodom | hi there... my new plasma thinks my battery is 0% and complains about that. Is here a way to tell it i do not have a battery? |
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04:54.05 | joel1nux | Is there any way in KDE to prevent it from sleeping/locking the screen when I have netflix or youtube full screen? |
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05:00.48 | thiago | those applications should have inhibited the screen saver |
05:01.06 | thiago | you should contact your browser community and report a bug/suggestion |
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05:51.12 | joel1nux | umm... |
05:51.18 | joel1nux | it doesn't |
05:51.34 | joel1nux | and there is nothing that seems to suggest it was supposed to |
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08:22.38 | lordievader | Good morning |
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08:36.53 | absklb | hi |
08:36.57 | absklb | nvm |
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09:00.45 | estan | hm. it seems i can no longer install fonts (.ttf, .otf, ..) from the context menu in Dolphin (version 15.08.2). is this a feature that was lost in the move to KF 5? |
09:01.32 | estan | (i have to open the fonts KCM to do it) |
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09:49.54 | BlaXpirit | estan, i wouldnt be surprised |
09:55.37 | estan | BlaXpirit: yea. i found https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348811 just now and commented on it. |
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11:17.54 | Tazmain | hi all, could someone possibly just take a look at this bug and try to see if they get the same issue? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347563 its been open for months but noone has looked at it yet. |
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11:19.08 | sibok | I can't find user icon shown in KDE plasma 5 "kicker" menu under /usr/share/icons/breeze does anyone know its exact location? thx |
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11:26.10 | timss | Hi. Does anyone know what this screen scaling/high dpi tool is called, or where I can find it? Thanks. http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/high_dpi_again |
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11:26.40 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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11:51.56 | Schrostfutz | is there support in plasma for scaling the UI and an onboard keyboard so that it can be used on convertibles properly? |
11:52.41 | mkolenda | Hey guys, kde4 isn't setting my selected keyboard layout during startup. |
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12:19.31 | JyZyXEL | if KDE 4 is full of all kinds of usability bugs that have been allegedly fixed in KDE 5, but will never be fixed in KDE 4, then what are people supposed to use to get a good stable KDE experience when KDE 5 is otherwise totally unstable? |
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12:47.42 | rindolf | JyZyXEL: don't know - I've switched to Xfce - at least temporarily. |
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13:26.47 | cousin_luigi | JyZyXEL: Unstable in what aspect? |
13:26.59 | cousin_luigi | JyZyXEL: And on what distro, if I may? |
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13:31.24 | bodom | Hi there. I've migrated to the new KDE5 and lost some features. Is there any way to restore the ark's "compress into" right-click menu in dolphin? |
13:32.06 | genstorm | bodom: that requires kf5-based libkonq which hasn't been released yet |
13:32.46 | Ioupek | What distribution? On Archlinux it seems to work. |
13:32.51 | bodom | genstorm: *sub* thank you for answer |
13:34.03 | bodom | After many years, i think time has come to say goodbye to kde :\ |
13:34.21 | cousin_luigi | :O |
13:34.27 | cousin_luigi | It's not like there is much else around. |
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13:35.35 | genstorm | bodom: it does work well though |
13:35.53 | geek | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321706 whats going on with kde? this annoying bug is still happening in plasma 5.4 |
13:36.04 | geek | Reported:2013-06-28 11:46 |
13:36.06 | bodom | genstorm: what works well? |
13:36.34 | genstorm | bodom: libkonq built from git, frameworks branch |
13:37.00 | geek | I am trying to change the file type but after applu it unchange my conf |
13:37.43 | bodom | genstorm: well, if it has not been released yet, there should be a reason |
13:40.11 | geek | the issue is .local and .config have mimeapps.list, so the devs should set only one location to look for this file |
13:40.41 | bodom | sadly lately having a fancy interface has become more important than having a working interface. If it wasn't enough, breaking backward compatibility is now a must. |
13:40.41 | Ioupek | No one has problem with panel not working after waking from sleep? Archlinux + nvidia 355.11 here |
13:41.18 | geek | I am using same setup but I don't use waking from sleep |
13:42.12 | geek | Ioupek, suspend? |
13:42.17 | Ioupek | yes |
13:42.22 | geek | I did here and the panel is stil working |
13:42.43 | geek | that's a problem with your setup |
13:43.03 | Ioupek | I try again |
13:43.09 | geek | Ioupek, disable all widgets and change the themes for the default |
13:43.13 | geek | then try again |
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13:43.40 | Ioupek | well it not happen always |
13:43.45 | geek | aurora is like a virus, when you turn it on, all kde if filled with bugs |
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14:30.04 | dan | has anyone had problems with panels loading after upgraindg to a newer version of kubuntu? i've had this on both my desktop and a VM i use at work. plasma appears frozen for about a minute, sometimes the panel looks like a black bar. then things start and run normally |
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14:39.02 | mkolenda | My kde during startup force us keyboard layout even if i have set different. Keyboard layout applet doesn't change to other layouts and if i set layout through systemsettings and apply and then click this layout applet it changes back to us layout. |
14:39.19 | mkolenda | Do you have any idea how to debug this? |
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14:40.26 | mkolenda | My KDE is 4.14.3 i could add setxkbmap in xinitrc but it is finally getting back to us during startup |
14:51.20 | mkolenda | why does keyboard layout applet doesn't change it? Is it possible to set it from console to get any error back? |
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17:31.32 | geek | why some people prefer kde over gnome? |
17:31.54 | thiago | why do some people prefer bmw over mercedes? |
17:31.59 | genstorm | why some people prefer gnome over kde? |
17:32.01 | thiago | why do some people prefer green over blue? |
17:32.49 | thiago | it's a choice. They're entitled to their opinion. |
17:33.01 | cousin_luigi | genstorm: kde is way more configurable. I used to like gnome2 |
17:33.30 | Ioupek | Try to change for example change height of the panel in gnome. |
17:35.24 | genstorm | cousin_luigi: I am well aware of it, geek maybe isn't :p |
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17:36.15 | geek | thiago that comparison has nothing to do with software |
17:36.22 | thiago | geek: indeed it doesn't |
17:37.03 | cousin_luigi | genstorm: sorry:) |
17:37.15 | geek | thiago green will always be green same for blue, kde is constantly changing also gnome, another comparison which doesn't fit with software |
17:37.19 | cousin_luigi | geek: You can't even have a bottom panel on gnome3 |
17:37.38 | geek | cousin_luigi with extension I can |
17:37.58 | cousin_luigi | geek: Can you move the top panel to the bottom? |
17:38.08 | cousin_luigi | I mean with menus and all, without duplication? |
17:38.22 | geek | cousin_luigi yes |
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17:38.31 | cousin_luigi | geek: That must be new. |
17:38.33 | cousin_luigi | Got a screenshot? |
17:38.58 | thiago | geek: the point was that it's a choice |
17:39.42 | geek | but the factor choice of software changes when the software change |
17:39.56 | geek | color never changes so I can always prefer one over another |
17:40.13 | thiago | bmw and mercedes change |
17:40.46 | geek | doing the compariison with kde3 and plasma4.5, completly different desktops |
17:40.56 | geek | yes |
17:40.57 | genstorm | geek: not at all |
17:41.01 | geek | so that'sthe point |
17:41.47 | geek | we use the present to gather info about the desktop features to make a choice |
17:43.08 | genstorm | geek: technologies have changed, looks have changed, but plasma4/5 are still easily traced back to kde3 |
17:43.24 | geek | genstorm lots of new features |
17:43.43 | geek | but unstable in comparison with kde3 |
17:44.01 | genstorm | geek: kde3 was unstable at times |
17:44.11 | geek | not as much as plasma 5.4 |
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17:44.16 | genstorm | actually, * software was unstable at times |
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17:49.59 | _rd | Hi, where is a good place to get help in debugging the layout of a plasmoid? |
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19:03.34 | hassoon | haha http://on.fb.me/1kiKc9I |
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19:07.07 | messerting | Wow, baschie made my day - he found the reason for focus stealing in Linux Mint, KDE 4.14.2: Akregator. bug #350911 |
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21:02.00 | horuxan | hello all |
21:02.04 | horuxan | one help plis |
21:02.16 | horuxan | the dolphin bug (close after open) is correct |
21:02.19 | horuxan | sorry bad english |
21:02.28 | horuxan | bug resolved ? |
21:02.50 | horuxan | on yes, how to upgrade kde 5.4 in debian stable |
21:02.53 | horuxan | and remove kde 4 |
21:03.00 | horuxan | ?? |
21:08.15 | hassoon | !! |
21:08.31 | horuxan | ? |
21:08.33 | horuxan | ;) |
21:08.35 | horuxan | plis |
21:10.00 | hassoon | now. |
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21:14.52 | ravior | When you're trying to shutdown your machine, the grey bar should span on the whole width of your screen, right? |
21:16.09 | hassoon | waht grey what grey bar |
21:17.57 | horuxan | hasson |
21:18.09 | horuxan | please speak for my question ? |
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21:36.49 | ravior | hassoon: Sorry for the late reply. When you shutdown your computer, a gray bar that stretches the whole width of your monitor informing you in how many seconds remain until the cumputer closes. That bar should be the whole length of the screen? |
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21:39.59 | ravior | I mean, this is a minor bug right? |
21:40.01 | ravior | https://flic.kr/p/AujW3A |
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21:42.07 | thiago | doesn't look like it was meant to be the whole width |
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21:47.36 | ravior | thiago: I always thought that it was meant to stretch the whole width. |
21:48.10 | ravior | I've seen that behavior only when there are 2 screens connected and the primary has a smaller resolution. |
21:49.02 | ravior | that grey bar has the width of the primary display even if it's opened on a larger connected display |
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21:53.01 | ravior | Also, as an unrelated topic, does someone knows what the file that contains the shutdown strings is named? "*.po". I searched for that string, but didn't appear to be in the KDE SVN. |
21:53.19 | ravior | the strings for the sequence from the picture |
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22:18.40 | genstorm | hmm what could be the reason for desktop layout being greyed out... |
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22:24.45 | genstorm | ah! now that's not obvious |
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22:25.52 | genstorm | it only works after a folder view widget was added to the regular desktop |
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23:11.10 | Lionyx | i'd like to set a shortcut for docking a window to left or right, which one is the right entry for that? |
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