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00:19.50rattatoueHas anyone had the issue in Plasma 5 where the clock is blank? There is an addon for it, I can remove add etc, but there is no time shown.
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05:37.26AliShi inatalled twice debian in past days. first debian 7.3.3 with lxde which notfied me about broken battery and charge cappacity about 47%. next i have installed debian 8.2 with kde. it also saying broken battery with 47% cappacity.
05:38.01AliShin kde when i unplug the ac the notify will appear
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05:41.16AliShand i should say that i was using windows 7 until 3days ago and there wasnt any problem
05:41.43AliShin plug mode i havent  any problem
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06:59.55Guest46775when I open a 'Help->File a bug report' menu in KDE application, it tries to open the url in winebrowser (iexplorer)... how can I change default behavior of kde :)
07:00.03Guest46775I have install firefox and opera in my system
07:00.15Guest46775so I would epxect one of them to be detected as default
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07:03.23dziaduok, I found
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07:05.20valoriedziadu: if you were Guest46775 -- defaults probably depend on your distro
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07:06.00valorieand sometimes you have to tell both the browser and your environment what browser should be default
07:06.13valorieor they fight about it
07:06.16valorie:-)
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07:10.01dziaduvalorie: I wasn't sure where it is, but now I know: File types -> text -> html
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07:10.35valoriecool
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08:00.39mitch0hello. how can I add file-actions to dolphin5? (to the right-click context menu)
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08:45.03lordievaderGood morning.
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10:16.14underplayWhere is the taskbar config file stored? I searched in ~/.kde/share/config and couldnt find anything
10:16.59underplaywhat im trying to do is make hidden windows have a fully-brightened icon in the taskbar
10:17.35leszekunderplay: plasma-desktop-appletsrc
10:17.45leszekon plasma 4
10:17.47leszekthat is
10:17.53underplayleszek: Thank you
10:18.04underplayNot sure what plasma version im using, i have fedora 23
10:18.17mitch0what is the kf5 place of ServiceMenus? (the local ones, I have global ServiceMenus under /usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/ )
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10:18.32leszekunderplay: then it is plasma 5 though that has a ~/.config/org.kde.somethingSomething appletsrc file :P
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10:18.57underplaythx leszek
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10:19.23leszekmitch0: according to xdg standards it should be ~/.local/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus
10:19.37mitch0thanks, I'll give it a try
10:19.39leszekmitch0: though I did not test it
10:19.43leszek:)
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10:21.16A_I_hello
10:21.27A_I_how does "kconsole" get its icon ?
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10:21.48A_I__NET_WM_ICON:  not found.
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10:35.19mitch0leszek: thanks. workses
10:35.49leszeknice :)
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11:34.28jaggztcan I set the background for all my desktops at once?
11:34.33jaggzt(commandline will do)
11:37.15leszekjaggzt: virtual desktops ? That would be the default
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11:37.44leszekbtw. no one fixed the vlc phonon backend with pulseaudio yet ? It is still restoring the volume to 100% on every boot
11:37.58jaggztI set the default, but now I'd need to go and edit each I guess?
11:38.29jaggztcan't figure out kreadconfig
11:40.31leszekjaggzt: plasma 4 with different activities for every virtual desktop ? If yes turn this feature off. Or do you need different widgets on each virtual desktop ?
11:40.56jaggztyeah I keep some widgets on desktop 12
11:41.01jaggztthat's too convenient
11:41.19leszekhmm... then there is no option for setting all wallpapers to the same
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11:45.50jaggztleszek, darn...  almost: http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201401/page11.html
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12:00.30BluesKajHey all
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12:37.47nluxtonDoes anybody know if the "Log notification to file" feature in KDE is broken at the moment? It doesn't seem to work for me. I'm trying to get KDE connect notifications to be logged to a file to display them in my dzen2 bar
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12:43.01jklmnnis anyone using kaddressbook with carddav with owncloud? I only get a part of my contacts synched
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12:47.01jaggztokay
12:47.15jaggztleszek, I could edit plasma-desktop-appletsrc by hand, then log out and back in
12:47.35leszek:)
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12:49.35jklmnnis anyone using kaddressbook with carddav with owncloud? I only get a part of my contacts synched
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12:55.32leszekjklmnn: yeah I use it here and I don't have that problem. Do you use maybe an older owncloud version ? Is it maybe still syncing ?
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13:02.50jklmnnleszek: i have found out, that no entries older that 1 year are synced. That might be helpfull with calendars, but is a problem with contacts
13:03.55leszekjklmnn: it synced everything here. And I have a lot of contacts older than 1 year here.
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13:05.48jklmnnhmm, well i can't say exactly how old my contacts are, but i checked the one year for the calendar, and the only common between the contacs that are synced is, that i have added them not that long ago
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13:11.04jaggztleszek, this is what caused all this: https://unsplash.com/photos/FRYtAMzphLs
13:11.10jaggztI had to have that on my backgrounds
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13:12.29jaggztread that last line as old contact lenses
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13:49.20jklmnnis there a possibility to cache cal/carddav data in korganizer?
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13:50.47Two_Dogsjklmnn: akonadi is a cache, you mean something else?
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13:53.02jklmnnwell, if i go suspend and wake up, all my calendars and contacts are gone and i have to run akonadictl restart to get them sync
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13:53.56Two_Dogsjklmnn: that is not normal, akonadi should be up when you return to a kde session
13:55.09jklmnnyes, it's running, but it doesn't sync anymore. and it seems to forget previously synced data
13:56.05jklmnnbtw I'm using kde 4.14.2
13:56.08Two_Dogsjklmnn: you do a akonadi server restart and all is normal again?
13:57.11Two_Dogsjklmnn: i dont think akonadi has changed too much between 4.14 and kf5
13:57.51jklmnnyes
13:58.02jklmnnat least as normal as it was before
13:58.04Two_Dogsjklmnn: do you have akonadiconsole installed?
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13:59.42Two_Dogsjklmnn: can you try something, reboot or logout, on return to session execute> pstree -nsupa
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14:00.08Two_Dogscheck if akonadi is running before you do anything else
14:01.12Two_Dogsjklmnn: sounds more like akonadi start is trashed
14:02.24jklmnnTwo_Dogs: ok, I'll try that, brb
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14:05.06jklmnnTwo_Dogs: akonadi seems to be running,  and i have akonadiconsole installed now
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14:06.33jklmnnAnd everything seems to work, unlike before
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14:07.26Two_Dogsjklmnn: your data is set to update how often? for instance i have gmail imap updating every three minutes and at kmail start
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14:08.07Two_Dogsjklmnn: i dont think installing akonadiconsole fixed the issue :)
14:08.49jklmnnTwo_Dogs: i have the 5 mins, everything is set to update by default, and also at startup, and the addressbooks on click
14:09.22codextremisttrying to setup a two monitor configuration and still I couldnt get a setup which would work after reboot (after reboot my screen goes black)
14:09.59jklmnnTwo_Dogs: I suspecetd that ;) I have read about that kind of bug, it only appears sometimes, and all calendars and addressbooks are unchecked, which also happened to me
14:10.19codextremistreading further I found more about xrandr and xinerama, then I was curious to know which of these programs the multimonitor setup of KDE uses
14:10.42codextremistnot sure where each of them (xrandr and xinerama) belong
14:11.02Two_Dogsjklmnn: i use the sql3 driver, works for me, its not recommended, your driver could be the issue also
14:11.32Two_Dogscodextremist: in kde session the displays are correct?
14:12.10Two_Dogsjklmnn: akonadi is voodoo :)
14:12.16jklmnnTwo_Dogs: how do I change that driver? (I assume that I use mysql, since this is default)
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14:12.54Two_Dogsjklmnn: you can on akonadiconsole
14:13.02Two_Dogsjklmnn: be careful though
14:13.20jklmnnTwo_Dogs: thanks :) and I have another issue, only contacts that are not older that 1 year are synced with carddav
14:13.22codextremistTwo_Dogs: I installed the 340 drivers for NVidia( the proprietary ones). When I restart my computer AFAIK my session is already black
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14:13.41Two_Dogsjklmnn: server > configure server
14:13.56Two_Dogscodextremist: what distro?
14:14.14codextremistTwo_Dogs: arch
14:14.49Two_Dogscodextremist: are you actually using nvidia driver or in fallback?
14:15.21codextremistTwo_Dogs: I came from Kubuntu 15.10 and using arch + kde seems even more stable to me
14:15.38codextremistTwo_Dogs: I`m using the blob from NVidia
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14:16.11Two_Dogsjklmnn: i would assume that is a server issue, most likely, but the app may be also limiting how far back or much data it pulls
14:16.51jklmnnTwo_Dogs: well it works on android and in thunderbird(with sogo)
14:17.10Two_Dogscodextremist: i use opensuse-tw kf5 , i would guess arch kf5 is about same as 15.10
14:17.44codextremistTwo_Dogs: But googling it I found out that Nvidia prop drivers are compatible with Xinerama (although it is known that above 319 drivers, Xinerama will crash)
14:18.10Two_Dogsjklmnn: in kde14.xx each source for akonadi is available to tweak
14:18.20codextremistTwo_Dogs: Using nvidia-settings to setup xorg.conf for a two monitor configuration I realized that a option for Xinerama was created
14:19.08Two_Dogscodextremist: you are using the nvidia driver then?
14:19.34codextremistTwo_Dogs: My question is Xinerama or XRandr bundled with Xorg? In this case, the kde GUI for setting up multi monitors uses which one of them?
14:19.40jklmnnTwo_Dogs: I just don't find where to do this
14:19.42Two_Dogscodextremist: in arch does > glxinfo | grep -i render
14:19.42codextremistTwo_Dogs: yep
14:20.12Two_Dogscodextremist: xrandr should be available now
14:20.31Two_Dogscodextremist: execute> xrandr
14:20.49Two_Dogscmd: http://git.io/v823M
14:20.57Two_Dogsmine codextremist ^^
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14:21.36codextremistcodextremist: glxinfo prints nothing. Xrandr is available, but from my understanding nvidia-settings is actually setting up a xorg.conf file which is not compatible with xrandr
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14:22.08codextremistTwo_Dogs: because there is an option, precisely Option         "nvidiaXineramaInfoOrder" "DFP-0"
14:22.16codextremistwhich is addressed to Xinerama
14:22.27Two_Dogscodextremist: via kde > system-settings > display
14:22.50BluesKajmesa-itils is required for glxinfo
14:22.53Two_Dogscodextremist: via kde you cant manage the display?
14:23.10codextremistTwo_Dogs: I can but then I have the same problem
14:23.34codextremistTwo_Dogs: it seems that Nvidia prop drivers do not support XRandr yet
14:24.12Two_Dogscodextremist: how do you know you are actually using the nvidia driver?
14:24.31Two_Dogsxrandr should output
14:24.33codextremistTwo_Dogs:because I installed it
14:24.40Two_Dogscodextremist: ok
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14:25.08Two_DogsBluesKaj: thanks
14:25.34Two_Dogscodextremist: get the package needed to make 'glxinfo' work
14:26.02codextremistcodextremist: how would glxinfo help on multihead setup?
14:26.04Two_Dogsjklmnn: to do?
14:26.11codextremistTwo_Dogs: how would glxinfo help on multihead setup?
14:27.06Two_Dogscodextremist: glxinfo is just that, an info tool
14:27.09jklmnnTwo_Dogs: you said i can tweak each source for akonadi, but I don't know where to do this. In the usual dav resource settings I can't find anything useful for this
14:27.43BluesKajTwo_Dogs, actually it's mesa-utils
14:28.32codextremistTwo_Dogs: Ok but when I am setting stuff through KDE display manager, am I actually creating settings for Xrandr or Xinerama?
14:28.34Two_Dogsjklmnn: in system-settings on kde-14.xx there is a panel for specific akonadi services
14:28.50Two_Dogscodextremist: for xrand for sure
14:29.07codextremistTwo_Dogs: http://i3wm.org/docs/multi-monitor.html#_the_explanation
14:29.27Two_Dogscodextremist: on diff is that those settings are user-settings, from login
14:29.28codextremistTwo_Dogs: if that is true, than this link explains why my setup might be crashing here and there
14:30.08codextremistTwo_Dogs: bc Nvidia blobs above 319 do not work properly with Xrandr
14:30.33codextremistTwo_Dogs: So my only choice seems to be fallback to noveau
14:30.54Two_Dogscodextremist: multi-monitor via system-settings > display tends to be a painless setup
14:31.13Two_Dogscodextremist: no, nvidia should manage two monitor just fine
14:31.27codextremistTwo_Dogs: should be, but that might not be true for Nvidia blobs
14:31.48Two_Dogsi dont know what 'bobs' are/do
14:31.56Two_Dogsblobs :)
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14:32.15codextremistTwo_Dogs: just a short nickname for Nvidia proprietary drivers
14:32.21codextremistTwo_Dogs: =)
14:32.59Two_Dogscodextremist: nvidia driver better be able to manage two monitor, or get your money back
14:33.30codextremistcodextremist: It should but with xinerama, not xrandr
14:33.38codextremistTwo_Dogs: It should but with xinerama, not xrandr
14:33.51Two_Dogscodextremist: does> lsmod | grep nvidia #see nvidia?
14:34.20codextremistTwo_Dogs: it sure does
14:34.23jklmnnTwo_Dogs: but there are also just the normal settings, nothing about how long back data is synced
14:34.24Two_Dogscodextremist: not true, via xrandr you should be able to setup two monitor
14:34.35shadowbanecodextremist: xinerama support is pretty much absent from everything these days.  Why would you want to use it?
14:35.44codextremistshadowbane: bc archlinux wiki and http://i3wm.org/docs/multi-monitor.html#_the_explanation, that above 319 drivers nvidia proprietary drivers are not guarantee to work properly with xrandr
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14:37.09Two_Dogshttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/3bd3f5f57c33085e64d8 codextremist if you have to setup dual monitor the painful way via xrandr, i would use the kde system-settings > display
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14:37.35Two_Dogscodextremist: good luck
14:38.31codextremistTwo_Dogs: thanks! Maybe I should try noveau drivers (I wanted to use the proprietary bc I was concerned with efficiency)
14:38.34Two_Dogsjklmnn: the limitation could be set from server, local-folder size restriction etc
14:38.38shadowbanecodextremist: that is from 2010.  Nvidia drivers have worked fine with xrandr for years now.
14:38.59codextremistshadowbane: the proprietary ones?
14:39.34shadowbaneyes.
14:39.34Two_Dogscodextremist: use nvidia if the driver working, novo is going backwards to fix a simple issue
14:39.44codextremistshadowbane: Any clue why my multihead setup stops working after rebooting the computer?
14:40.05codextremistshadowbane: "stops working" -> black screen on login
14:40.08Two_Dogscodextremist: because its not saved
14:40.10jklmnnTwo_Dogs: I found two posts: one about owncloud which says that owncloud is not able to force a sync timespan and one about korganizer which says that there are 5 months hardcoded
14:40.47codextremistTwo_Dogs: I thought that setting it up through KDE display manager would save it for me after pressing "apply"
14:41.04jklmnnTwo_Dogs: https://forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28420
14:41.17jklmnnTwo_Dogs: https://code.google.com/p/kcaldav/issues/detail?id=34
14:41.40Two_Dogscodextremist: should yes
14:42.01jklmnnTwo_Dogs: even though these issues are old, i suspect that they might be still there in a similar form
14:43.59Two_Dogsjklmnn: i barely figured out how to get my mail and contacts :)
14:45.45jklmnnTwo_Dogs: still thanks for your help! :) akonadi is now a bit less vodoo for me than it was before ;)
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14:47.18Two_Dogsjklmnn: akonadi is a excellent tool, i could not live without kdepim, i dont know how people manage multiple apps for pim, i would go crazy
14:47.57Two_Dogsjklmnn: and akonadi is realtime :)
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15:11.49jklmnnTwo_Dogs: I kinda "solved" it. I exported all my contacts from the owncloud, deleted them all after and imported them into kaddressbook which synced them back to the owncloud. This results in all contacs in my owncloud being from today and therefore being synced in akonadi :D
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15:12.24Two_Dogsjklmnn: fixed !! cool
15:12.53Two_Dogsjklmnn: call it the yearly-do, add it to kalarm :)
15:13.53jklmnnTwo_Dogs: I will :D
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15:50.45thparUsing Fedora 23, KDE spin, my telepathy is currently completely messed up. The passwords were not stored in KWallet anymore. After deleting all chat accounts, somehow it kept asking for their passwords. I deleted all ktp and telepathy config files and now nothing is working anymore: I can add accounts, but the config buttons don't anything and the contact list insists that I don't have any accounts configured.
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15:50.53thparAnyone similar experiences?
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15:54.21sdfgIs there a way to migrate settings from KDE4 to Plasma 5?
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15:55.47genstormsdfg: there's migration of mail and kwallet, but that's pretty much it
15:56.08sdfggenstorm: boo :-(  So I need to manually set all my shortcuts and colours and things?
16:04.45rdieter_workthpar: you can try ktp-15.08.2 in updates-testing repo, but I'm still running into some race condition setting up new accounts
16:05.19rdieter_workthpar: what I'm hitting, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354565
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16:07.50thparrdieter_work: I'm not familiar with kcm or even KAccounts. But I can conclude that creating/configuring chat accounts is currently seriously buggy?
16:08.19thparrdieter_work: that's somehow somehow some consolation :-)
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16:14.59thparrdieter_work: oh, I see. KAccounts is the config tool for the chat-accounts. It's indeed seriously bugged. The Configure button for any of my current accounts just doesn't do anything.
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16:26.15guillomHello.
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16:28.29guillomDoes anyone have an idea of why one external monitor would be detected without problem, but another wouldn't not? I'm using Plasma 5.4.2 on openSUSE Leap 42.1. They both used to work with Plasma 4.
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16:29.18rdieter_workguillom: Qt5 simply doesn't handle multiple monitors very well yet
16:29.42VergeWhy's that
16:29.45guillomAww :(
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16:30.06VergePretty shit that in 2015 "Linux DE doesn't handle multi-head very well"
16:30.16rdieter_workbecause it's hard, and Qt5 made some new assumptions that kde/plasma didn't expect
16:30.23rdieter_workit's being worked on
16:30.36VergeGnome doesn't either, to add to the dispair
16:30.44rdieter_workwell, the assumptions part is vice-versa too
16:31.33rdieter_workthe most promising recent action can be seen @ https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/138201/
16:31.44rdieter_workand http://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-42985
16:31.44guillomSo is there anything I can try to fix this, or can I just not use my work monitor any more?
16:32.07rdieter_workguillom: depends on what your problem(s) are, you haven't given any details yet
16:32.19rdieter_workoh, one monitor is not detected
16:32.26rdieter_workthat's a new one
16:32.41rdieter_workguillom: does command-line xrandr tool see it?
16:33.02sdfgIs there a way to make the transparency for yakuake use the blur effect?  I've tried setting it in the profile, and settings it as a window behaviour
16:33.09Sho_No
16:33.40guillomrdieter_work: Apparently not. What does that mean?
16:34.31rdieter_workguillom: it means it's something lower level than qt/plasma
16:34.49rdieter_workguillom: either X issue, or hardware
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16:36.18guillomrdieter_work: wait, I unplugged and replugged it and now there's a "virtual" one, with resolutions but shown as disconnected. It's not there when the exsernal monitor isn't plugged in.
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16:39.08rdieter_workwierd, still, X is clearly still confused
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16:39.31rdieter_workguillom: what kind of computer?
16:39.54guillomrdieter_work: ThinkPad X1 Carbon; the old version :)
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16:40.26rdieter_workwe had a recent dell box do screwy things like try to cache the last 2 monitors (where the cache was wrong), so we ended up having to (re)connect 2 others to make it forget
16:40.30sdfgAh, got it :-)
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16:41.57guillomI can live without my work monitor for a few days if needed, even if it's not comfortable. I'll try to reconnect to my external monitor at home tonight, since that one worked.
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16:52.40ngongmusca: thanks
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17:15.25guillomrdieter_work: FYI, the monitor works when connected over DVI instead of VGA. That's good enough for me :)
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18:55.14teprrrhi there, anyone knows how to kill the lock screen in plasma 5? back in the kde4 days I used to kill the kscreenlocker, but it's nowadays a bit different :)
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18:56.42teprrrorg.kde.screensaver has an interface for locking the screen, but no Unlock, or so it seems
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19:01.58einar77teprrr: the only way to do it is to kill ksmserver and your session with it
19:02.02einar77this is by design
19:02.07teprrrouch :(
19:02.51einar77teprrr: martin graesslin wrote at great length the reasoning back in the days
19:03.07teprrryup, I think I may have read about that indeed
19:03.18teprrrhmh, although I can always make the lock screen crash though somehow
19:03.24einar77teprrr: which version?
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19:03.31einar77and distro
19:03.41teprrrmy problem is actually that the greeter can find some
19:03.53einar77because you *can* unlock it using alternative methods without killing your session
19:04.09teprrrcan't find some qml elements/files, and after inserting the correct password it will stay locked
19:04.12einar77at least, if you're using a systemd-enable distro
19:04.20einar77teprrr: that's unrelated, that's usually some PAM issue
19:04.28teprrrarchlinux, and 5.4.2
19:04.34einar77teprrr: can you chmod +s your "kcheckpass" binary?
19:04.38einar77and try again?
19:04.54teprrroh, okay. this is a fresh installation and I haven't yet managed to make it work. maybe some dependency is missing then :P
19:04.58teprrrlet me check
19:05.08einar77teprrr: alternative to get out of this -> log in to a vt, "sudo loginctl unlock-sessions"
19:05.31teprrrokay, that's not indeed suided.. weird..
19:05.45einar77teprrr: you don't need the SUID bit depending on the PAM configuration
19:06.28einar77but an upgrade issue hit openSUSE users repeatedly so I remember the steps to fix it
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19:06.53teprrrokay :)
19:07.03teprrrhmm, suidin it didn't help, I'll try loginctl
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19:07.43teprrryay, that worked. thanks einar77 :)
19:07.54einar77teprrr: the lockscreen has a testing mode
19:08.06einar77so you can replicate the issue WITHOUT locking you out
19:08.27einar77kscreenlocker (my distro puts it in /usr/lib{64}/libexec; YMMV) --testing
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19:09.58teprrrnot the greet right?
19:10.03einar77hm
19:10.04teprrrkscreenlocker_greet I mean
19:10.06einar77probably yes
19:10.11einar77yeah
19:10.15einar77kscreenlocker_greet
19:10.50teprrrhttps://paste.kde.org/psn3lpwkl/lmblq0 oh, it crashes :P
19:11.13einar77hm
19:11.26einar77you're on a released ersion, so not the issue I had a while ago
19:11.53teprrrokay, maybe I should recompile it with debug symbols and see why it crashes then
19:11.57einar77right
19:12.01einar77it'd be appreciated
19:12.07teprrrI tried googling around before, but couldn't find any hits. so it seems a bit odd
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19:18.30teprrrokay, compiling :) first time compiling anything with this skylake build, looks to be crazy fast
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19:24.43teprrrokay, damn. it crashes inside the nvidia's egl blob.. :P
19:25.37teprrror in libpthread, but it's called by the egl blob
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19:48.30teprrreinar77: anyway, thanks for the tip. at least I don't need to trash the complete session after suspend now :)
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20:09.09GreeningGalaxyI'm trying to use a few less-supported protocols (skype, facebook, steam) with a linux chat client. At the moment I have nice google chat integration with telepathy in Plasma 5, but none of the others, and although Pidgin supports those protocols, its system tray icon won't show up. telepathy-haze is supposed to integrate libpurple protocols with telepathy, but I've had no luck.
20:09.27GreeningGalaxycan anyone help me figure out how to either get telepathy-haze or pidgin's systray icon working?
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20:11.00GreeningGalaxyalready tried pidgin-indicator and libappindicator, to no apparent effect whatsoever
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20:12.39GreeningGalaxytelepathy-haze would be more ideal, but I can't figure out how to configure it. googles suggest that it 'just works' for everyone else.
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20:15.59axc1298GreeningGalaxy: pidgin's system tray icon appears when i tested it
20:16.17axc1298without installing anything extra besides pidgin
20:16.20GreeningGalaxyok... what distro?
20:16.27axc1298debian
20:16.42GreeningGalaxyyou have Plasma 5?
20:16.50axc12984
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20:17.12GreeningGalaxyah, there it is. works fine in my Debian install with 4, I'm talking about 5 here
20:17.24axc1298oh ok. is it still debian?
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20:17.39GreeningGalaxyno, Arch
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20:18.25axc1298hmm not sure. haven't used that before
20:18.31GreeningGalaxyI should probably just go to #archlinux and see if I can find out anything about what "single-click activation via Activate dbus method" actually means. it says that on the packages in the AUR that are supposed to make systray icons like pidgin's work
20:19.00axc1298yea maybe they can help
20:19.33GreeningGalaxyit'd be most fun to get KTP's support for purple protocols working, though, since I already use KTP a lot and like it
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20:22.46GreeningGalaxyI do have a button to connect an Office 365/Lync account (via libpurple) so maybe the extra stuff I installed for pidgin to use all those dubious protocols isn't supported by telepathy-haze
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20:59.06sdfgIs there anyway to make the breeze-gtk theme use the system colors?
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21:15.06robotdevil1http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/top-4-graphical-partition-managers
21:15.35robotdevil1where does one request the first program port in this list?
21:15.52sdfgOn another note, is there anyway to change the background of the splash screen?  Being able to set the lock and sddm background is brilliant, there's just one more bit missing heh
21:16.28robotdevil1partitionmanager is NOT the same thing :)
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22:11.50sdfgHow do I send messages to the notifications in 5?  I used kdialog for a couple of scripts that I need to update
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22:49.15BlaXpiritsdfg, i don't quite understand
22:49.35BlaXpiriti only know that dbus can be used for this
22:50.02BlaXpiritsdfg, also seems like kdialog uses kde4
22:50.06sdfgBlaXpirit: in KDE4, I would send 'kdialog --passivepopup <message>'.  I can still do that, but it doesn't come up as a notification, it comes up in a simple black square in the centre of the screen.
22:50.23sdfgYes, when I do kdialog -v, it shows 4
22:50.30sdfgIs there a similar mechanism for 5?
22:50.34BlaXpiriti dunno
22:51.59BlaXpiritsdfg, https://gist.github.com/BlaXpirit/694381c0adf88b60fdce
22:53.06BlaXpiritsdfg, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=900140#p900140
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22:54.01BlaXpiritdbus is universal, good stuff
22:54.24BlaXpiritsure, this particular dbus method is quite complex, but it's worth the trouble
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22:55.22sdfgyeah, that's a good point, it is a more universal way of doing it
22:55.32sdfgThe first link doesn't work, I'll try the second one
22:56.25BlaXpiritsdfg, doesn't work???
22:56.28BlaXpiritthat's alarming
22:56.37sdfg./notify.py: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `('
22:56.42sdfg./notify.py: line 2: `bus = dbus.SessionBus()'
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22:56.55BlaXpiritwell that's not the link
22:57.09BlaXpiritsdfg, this is python programming language code
22:57.10sdfgYes, sorry, the contents of the first link doesn't work :-P
22:57.17sdfgBlaXpirit: yes, thus the .py at the end ;-)
22:57.36BlaXpiritand i think you're trying to run it in bash or something
22:58.06BlaXpiritno, that can't be right
22:58.07sdfgTrue, I just ran it with python notify.py
22:59.16sdfgThis was the result: https://bpaste.net/show/a90163a10b0c
22:59.49BlaXpiritsdfg, that sucks.  are you not running Plasma??
23:00.01sdfgYes.
23:00.03sdfgI am.
23:00.25BlaXpiriti have no idea what's going on then
23:00.29BlaXpiritthis code never failed me
23:00.50BlaXpiritgotta go, sorry
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23:05.27BlaXpirit|mthat must be why kdialog is failing   now that i think about it
23:05.46BlaXpirit|msomething is broken on your system
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