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00:14.48 | CrustY_ | Hi everyone |
00:14.51 | CrustY_ | I use kde 4 |
00:15.12 | CrustY_ | since last update I has some strange problem and kde hangs after login screen |
00:15.25 | CrustY_ | there's nothing special in .xsession-errors |
00:15.37 | CrustY_ | and in Xorg.0.log (not sure about this one) |
00:15.48 | CrustY_ | tried to remove cache/config |
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00:20.58 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. I'm having a problem mounting a device with a special character in its path in Dolphin. The path is /media/Music&Video it's listed in /etc/fstab as /media/Music\046Video and Dolphin is trying to mount that literally, i.e. Command-line `mount "/media/Music\\046Video"' |
00:21.03 | Pegasus_RPG | Which fails of course |
00:21.23 | Pegasus_RPG | How can I correct what it's trying to use? |
00:22.04 | Pegasus_RPG | Strangely, I have "System & Data" as another mount point and that's fine |
00:23.22 | Pegasus_RPG | Oh nevermind, renaming it in /etc/fstab (with a & instead of \046) seems to have fixed it. |
00:24.32 | Pegasus_RPG | Sorry for the noise |
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00:59.43 | jaggzt | he left? |
00:59.49 | jaggzt | oh |
00:59.54 | jaggzt | he got his answer.. heh |
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02:25.45 | cisc | is there a way on Plasma 5 to rearrange the order of running applications in the task manager on the panel? |
02:25.53 | cisc | dragging & dropping |
02:31.48 | cisc | nvm, manual sorting in settings |
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06:05.18 | KWhat4 | how do i rest kwallet5 ? |
06:05.32 | KWhat4 | network manager wont accept my password |
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06:06.53 | bshah | KWhat4: you can remove files, from ~/.local/share/kwalletd or move them somewhere else |
06:07.24 | KWhat4 | bshah: i think its the other kdewallet |
06:07.38 | bshah | hmm? |
06:08.04 | bshah | kwallet5 stores wallets in that directory |
06:08.15 | KWhat4 | maybe i got it confused let me see |
06:09.49 | KWhat4 | that seems to have done it, thanks bshah |
06:10.03 | bshah | no problem :) |
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06:16.56 | IIT | i have multihead setup, is it possible to open a specific application in specific window ? |
06:16.56 | SemiNus | hi all |
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06:17.39 | SemiNus | I have a problem with KDE 5.9.0 - the ALT+F2 dialoque does not let me configure it the way I would want to. |
06:18.00 | SemiNus | I disabled everything but the command line and the calculator |
06:18.12 | SemiNus | now I want a dropdown appear with the latest commands I executed |
06:18.20 | SemiNus | unfortunately, I only get programs suggested |
06:18.28 | SemiNus | many of them have never been used by me |
06:18.39 | SemiNus | but for example, I often entered a command like: |
06:18.42 | SemiNus | kdesu kwrite /etc/hosts |
06:19.01 | SemiNus | when I type "kd" I would want the ALT+F2 dialoque suggest "kdesu kwrite /etc/hosts" |
06:19.12 | SemiNus | how can I achieve that, please? |
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13:15.38 | jfmcarreira | everytime mouse is under a window the mouse gets huge |
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14:11.54 | JyZyXEL | how can i bind a shortcut to Super + scroll wheel? |
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14:12.47 | hateball | Not possible afaik |
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14:14.04 | JyZyXEL | great. |
14:14.30 | JyZyXEL | because Xorg? |
14:17.04 | hateball | Nope, I do think it is possible under gnome and others |
14:17.13 | hateball | There's some bug, somewhere, on kde bugzilla |
14:17.22 | JyZyXEL | so it is possible? |
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14:18.44 | hateball | Pretty sure I used super+scroll to zoom in/out when I was running gnome/compiz almost 10 years ago |
14:19.14 | JyZyXEL | that could mean it in fact is possible |
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14:22.23 | hateball | I cant find it, but I remember it was due to how the super key was hardcoded in kde/plasma or something |
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14:23.56 | JyZyXEL | so might be that its impossible in kde |
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14:24.18 | JyZyXEL | how about Ctrl+Alt+ Scroll? |
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14:51.54 | JyZyXEL | hateball: it turned out to be possible with xbindkeys |
14:52.10 | JyZyXEL | "m:0x50 + c:133 + b:4" and "m:0x50 + c:133 + b:5" |
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14:52.27 | JyZyXEL | for Super_L + Scrollwheel Up/Scrollwheel Down |
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14:53.12 | larsemil | does plasma 5 still nog have hidpi support? |
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14:56.42 | hateball | JyZyXEL: does that break anything else? |
14:57.23 | JyZyXEL | Super+Tab still works at least |
14:57.31 | rdieter | larsemil: hidpi is supported (from the start) |
14:57.49 | JyZyXEL | work with KSuperkey as well |
14:57.50 | larsemil | rdieter: it does not scale at all for me. everything looks soooo tiny |
15:02.10 | rdieter | larsemil: ok, check your ~/.config/startupconfig, does it contain kdeglobals_kscreen_scalefactor=2 ? If not, set that and restart your session |
15:03.34 | rdieter | larsemil: hrm, that or startupconfigkeys , I'm not sure how that's supposed to get set, but if it's at 1, then it's not scaling, that much I do know |
15:03.51 | larsemil | rdieter: i changed to 2.. will see what happens now... |
15:05.50 | larsemil | rdieter: it changes it to 1 every time i start the desktop |
15:06.00 | larsemil | rdieter: if i change, it changes it back |
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15:06.55 | rdieter | k, I think kstartupconfig populates it, now need to figure out how that works :-/ |
15:07.04 | rdieter | err, kstartupconfig5 |
15:07.32 | rdieter | it's related to kscreen somehow too I think |
15:08.12 | rdieter | larsemil: ah, found it, systemsettings->display&monitor->display configuration->advanced |
15:08.30 | rdieter | larsemil: under advanced settings, there's a "scale display" slider |
15:10.04 | larsemil | rdieter: does not help... |
15:10.23 | larsemil | rdieter: or actually it does for some things |
15:10.27 | larsemil | not for menu.. |
15:12.04 | rdieter | larsemil: looks like it doesn't take effect immediately, may need session restart (and even then, older legacy apps obviously won't be scaled) |
15:12.20 | rdieter | but plasma elements should be, as well as anything Qt5 based |
15:12.28 | larsemil | i did logout, and back in again |
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15:48.03 | porton | Weird, now a bookmark in Kate is restored after close/reopen of a file. Is it non-repeatable bug in Kate or bug in my brain? I am confused |
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16:01.36 | unormal | KDE I LOVE YOU. THANKS EVERYBODY! |
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16:21.00 | AciD` | hi, is there a way to mark as read recursively with kmail? I just imported thousands of mail in lots of folders, and doing 'mark as read' one by one is a pita |
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16:22.29 | unormal | AciD`: Mark all the messages and mark them as read? |
16:23.03 | AciD` | unormal > what do you mean by 'mark all the messages' ? |
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16:23.39 | unormal | AciD`: Ctrl+A in a folder selects all messages and then you can mark all of them at once. |
16:23.50 | AciD` | that's the point |
16:24.23 | AciD` | it only work for that current directory. When you have 1500+ dir, I really don't want to do that manually 1500 times |
16:24.48 | AciD` | specially since kmail is pretty slow and showing each 1000+ mails in each dir take some times :( |
16:25.23 | unormal | AciD`: Ah, I see. You might want to ask in #kontact then. |
16:25.45 | AciD` | thanks for the help |
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17:00.10 | Khaotic | plasma is so fucked up on 15.10 |
17:00.25 | leszek | why ? Works fine here |
17:01.06 | cb400f | is pretty happy with it too, considering how young it still is |
17:01.21 | Khaotic | i have issues when bringing my laptop back from sleep, and when i use dual monitors |
17:06.10 | rdieter | Khaotic: in fairness, neither of those are strictly "plasma" issues |
17:06.30 | rdieter | the former, is kernel/drivers, the latter, Qt5 |
17:06.44 | Khaotic | oh |
17:07.10 | Khaotic | how is the dual desktop thing a qt5 thing? |
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17:08.03 | leszek | Khaotic: its a known Qt5 bug. Qt5 is used by KDE Plasma as the toolkit |
17:08.22 | Khaotic | oh ok |
17:08.32 | Khaotic | you have an idea when they will release a patch for it/ |
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17:08.57 | leszek | Khaotic: see this blog entry about Multiscreen issues: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/10/some-thoughts-on-the-quality-of-plasma-5/ |
17:09.19 | Khaotic | thanks |
17:10.53 | rdieter | Khaotic: http://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-42985 mostly (among others) |
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17:14.39 | Khaotic | ah |
17:14.56 | Khaotic | brb |
17:15.13 | Khaotic | will there be an ubuntu release patch that you know of rdieter? |
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17:17.03 | rdieter | Khaotic: the bug isn't fixed yet, but when it is, that would be a possibility, yes |
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17:17.10 | Khaotic | ok cool |
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17:17.24 | Khaotic | thanks |
17:17.25 | Khaotic | brb |
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17:21.16 | usermiteinemprob | Hi, I'm using KDE 4.12.2 on Debian Jessie and since Chromium was updated, the application launcher for Chromium doesn't work anymore. When I click on it, it opens this "Open with..." window instead of Chromium. Also, when I hover over the icon, it is not saying "Chromium-Webbrowser" anymore as it did when it still worked but just "chromium" now. I created the application launcher by opening Chromium over the application menu and k |
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17:21.46 | usermiteinemprob | Does anyone know how I can fix this? It is a rather minor problem but really annoying... |
17:22.04 | Khaotic | anyone having issues with systray icons now showing up? |
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17:22.44 | usermiteinemprob | *clicking |
17:22.46 | rdieter | Khaotic: plasma5 doesn't support apps that use legacy xembed systray icons |
17:23.00 | rdieter | Khaotic: (that will be fixed in 5.5 with a wonderful hack to support them again though) |
17:23.21 | Khaotic | oh yeah. when will that be released? |
17:23.30 | Khaotic | but i meant like my device notifier and stuff |
17:23.39 | rdieter | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ has some background |
17:23.53 | Khaotic | who is martin graesslin? |
17:23.58 | Khaotic | ive seen that link |
17:24.15 | Khaotic | i was speaking about the actual icons like volume and stuff. |
17:24.25 | rdieter | dec 12 release date, according to https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 |
17:24.47 | rdieter | Khaotic: martin is a primary kwin developer |
17:25.11 | Khaotic | oh |
17:26.04 | rdieter | Khaotic: maybe? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=352055 |
17:26.36 | Khaotic | im not seeing a dec 12 release |
17:27.51 | Khaotic | so question. do i need kmix installed if audio volume is also installed |
17:29.20 | redeyedman | Hi |
17:29.29 | rdieter | Khaotic: you want to use only 1 of kmix or plasma-pa, but not both. so pick one, disable or uninstall the other |
17:30.15 | redeyedman | how can I easily move track in the Amarok playlist? |
17:30.19 | rdieter | (when both run, they interfere with media shortcuts, ie, volume up/down, or mute keys may not work right) |
17:30.25 | Khaotic | i think i tried that but volume wouldnt work for me |
17:30.32 | Khaotic | im not having issues with them both being installed |
17:30.41 | redeyedman | I have 2/8 |
17:30.51 | redeyedman | 2.8 |
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17:46.51 | SemiNus | hi |
17:47.21 | SemiNus | I have a problem concerning KDE 5.9.0 |
17:47.49 | SemiNus | In the past, I could configure that the ALT+F2 dialogue windows drops down a list of commands I typed in the past |
17:47.57 | SemiNus | now, in the new version, I cannot find this option any more |
17:48.26 | SemiNus | for example, let's say I typed "kwrite /home/user/foo.txt" into my ALT+F2 dialoque in the past |
17:48.41 | rdieter | SemiNus: that feature is back in a recent release |
17:48.41 | SemiNus | then the old version of KDE would have showed this command to me when I typed "kwr..." |
17:48.42 | rdieter | checks |
17:49.10 | rdieter | SemiNus: I think that's a new plasma-5.4.x feature |
17:49.10 | SemiNus | heh, it seems as if I would always be on some kind of wrong version of something |
17:49.34 | SemiNus | rdieter, new? it was already there in the past! |
17:49.43 | SemiNus | it was there in KDE 3 |
17:49.48 | SemiNus | and then in a worse way in KDE 4 |
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17:49.59 | SemiNus | I try to figure out how to upgrade |
17:50.07 | rdieter | SemiNus: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.4.0.php |
17:50.13 | SemiNus | yesterday I upgraded to Ubuntu vivid |
17:50.17 | rdieter | new feature to plasma5 |
17:50.33 | rdieter | "KRunner now remembers your previous searches and automatically completes from the history as you type." |
17:50.36 | SemiNus | now I am wondering |
17:50.45 | SemiNus | I think I am using 5.9.0 |
17:50.52 | SemiNus | so the feature should be present on my system? |
17:50.54 | rdieter | that's kde frameworks version |
17:51.18 | rdieter | SemiNus: what does kinfocenter say ? |
17:51.19 | SemiNus | do you have any suggestion what to do on Ubuntu Vivid or shall I google ? |
17:51.35 | rdieter | SemiNus: ask your distro (#kubuntu probably) |
17:51.51 | SemiNus | KDE Plasma Version 5.2.2 |
17:52.47 | SemiNus | thank you rdieter |
17:52.51 | SemiNus | erm, one more thing please |
17:53.14 | SemiNus | there is a panel containing the taskbar |
17:53.35 | SemiNus | the thing at the bottom with the minimized windows in it |
17:53.48 | SemiNus | I describe how to reproduce the problem |
17:53.55 | SemiNus | set the rows to 2 rows in the settings |
17:54.01 | SemiNus | select [x] force row settings |
17:54.19 | SemiNus | then open a window (e.g. kwrite) and type 1 into it |
17:54.27 | SemiNus | open another kwrite (or any other window) and type 2 |
17:54.36 | SemiNus | then open another window and type 3 |
17:54.45 | SemiNus | then click on the 2nd window in the taskbar |
17:54.53 | SemiNus | you will get the 3rd window (where you typed 3) |
17:54.59 | SemiNus | 3 and 2 changed places |
17:55.05 | SemiNus | same goes for 5 and 4 |
17:55.06 | SemiNus | and so on |
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17:55.23 | rdieter | interesting, I don't recall ever seeing or hearing anything like that before |
17:55.27 | rdieter | tries that now |
17:55.38 | rdieter | SemiNus: it only happens with > 1 row ? |
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17:55.42 | SemiNus | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215231 |
17:55.47 | SemiNus | there is a bug |
17:56.02 | SemiNus | and it was said to be resolved ... and not resolved ... and resolved... |
17:56.03 | rdieter | that's an old/closed kde4 bug |
17:56.13 | SemiNus | yep, but the bug is still present |
17:56.56 | rdieter | SemiNus: my plasma-5.4.x doesn't have a "force rows" option |
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17:57.16 | rdieter | I only have a "Always arrange tasks in columns of as many rows" |
17:57.40 | rdieter | (which turns out doesn't seem to actually give me > 1 row) |
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17:58.23 | SemiNus | rdieter, why are the KDE guys always changing things to the worse?! |
17:58.34 | SemiNus | rdieter, usually functionality should become better |
17:58.42 | SemiNus | but there is stuff that already worked perfectly in the past |
17:58.47 | SemiNus | and now it does not work any more |
17:58.56 | rdieter | "always... for the worse", i think if you're going to start saying silly stuff like that, we won't have much of a conversation |
17:58.58 | SemiNus | instead of solving it, they remove the force-row-setting option?! |
17:59.42 | SemiNus | rdieter, sorry I did not want to be offensive, but it's really hard when you have a work flow, and the next version changes everything |
18:01.30 | rdieter | there you go again... "changes everything". |
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20:29.32 | Orochimarufan | Is it not possible to set a specific proxy in KGet? |
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20:43.30 | ShalokShalom | whats the difference between kdestart and startx please ? |
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20:44.59 | Vonor | startx starts an X server with whatever apps you defined in your xinitrc (might be a terminal or an entire desktop manager) |
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20:45.35 | ShalokShalom | ah, ok, thanks :) |
20:46.08 | Vonor | no problem |
20:47.55 | Vonor | could anyone give me a quick start in kde connect? i installed the package on opensuse leap via the kde:extra repo, the only binary i can spot is kdeconnect-cli though and it doesn't list my phone (android app is installed). the phone is connected via tethering (That's also how i'm online on the pc right now) |
20:48.25 | Vonor | pc <-> phone is a different network than phpne <-> wifi router though |
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20:53.26 | ShalokShalom | Vonor: the app is also installed on your phone ? :) |
20:53.34 | ShalokShalom | ah, ok |
20:53.37 | ShalokShalom | i read now :P |
20:53.38 | ShalokShalom | sory |
20:53.40 | ShalokShalom | sorry |
20:54.18 | Vonor | yes |
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20:55.34 | Vonor | accourding to some ubuntu help page i should just install the package on both devices and start the app on the phone and it should find my pc...but shouldn't i start something on the pc too, first? anyway, neither the phone now kdeconnect-cli find the other device |
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20:59.59 | ShalokShalom | maybe reboot ? (work here without one, just guessing) |
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21:36.02 | daum | hey guys i'm on kde 4 (kubuntu 14.04) and it kde itself seems to be acting really weird: http://i.imgur.com/nucOzmQ.png windows/menus aren't filling in properly |
21:36.55 | daum | any ideas what may be occurring? It seems to affect things like konsole, the start menu, etc. |
21:37.23 | ShalokShalom | do that change, when you hover over with the cursor ? |
21:37.45 | ShalokShalom | appear the correct graphics then ? |
21:38.24 | rattking | daum: I had the same issue with a intel graphics system try changing Qt graphics system to Native |
21:38.44 | daum | rattking, how do i do that? |
21:39.09 | rattking | system settings / Desktop effects / Advanced |
21:39.20 | daum | ShalokShalom, sorta...like highlighting in console never gets it to a black background, its always missing |
21:39.32 | ShalokShalom | and if that wont work, change one line above to xrender or another OpenGL |
21:39.50 | daum | ok will do |
21:40.29 | sdfg | How do I view the sessions that plasma stores? Because I've turned off all the autostarts, I've logged out with nothing open, and still every time the same apps open up when I don't want them too >:-( |
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21:41.56 | daum | rattking, can't actuall see waht is there: http://i.imgur.com/KkdJ4hA.png is what happens when i navigate to it |
21:42.29 | rattking | you will have to restart X and do it before it starts corrupting :( |
21:42.37 | rattking | or thats what I did |
21:42.45 | ShalokShalom | from the very beginning ? |
21:42.49 | ShalokShalom | or after a update ? |
21:43.16 | rattking | I found it odd that I just started getting that error on Debian Jessie.. I had no issues before |
21:44.52 | ShalokShalom | oh wow, many kdenlive updates in 15.08.3 :D |
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21:47.40 | daum | rattking, is there an easy way to prevent kde from restoring my previous session on login? just so it doesn't start up a ton of programs before i can get to the system settings? |
21:47.52 | ShalokShalom | daum: yes, also in system settings |
21:47.56 | daum | haha |
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21:48.13 | kubast2 | Hey ,how to stop klipper from saving selection into clipboard? |
21:48.42 | kubast2 | Configure - Klipper > General > Selection and Clipboard > Ignore Selection doesn't work |
21:49.12 | daum | what's weird though are the windows it "restored" from the previous session actually work fine |
21:50.00 | kubast2 | wait I have klipper clipboard |
21:50.04 | kubast2 | and plasma clipboard |
21:50.11 | kubast2 | well that explains a bit |
21:50.36 | kubast2 | and they both have seperate settings to each other |
21:51.21 | kubast2 | I guess problem solved lol |
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21:59.55 | Vonor | ShalokShalom, got it working. i needed the package kdeconnect-kde5 from kde:unstable:extra |
22:00.05 | ShalokShalom | ah, fine ^^ |
22:00.11 | ShalokShalom | yeah.. split packages.. |
22:00.39 | ShalokShalom | i already talk today a bit about it |
22:00.51 | ShalokShalom | and the headache, which gives that to users ^^ |
22:01.03 | genstorm | I like to confuse users |
22:01.45 | ShalokShalom | ^^ |
22:02.02 | ShalokShalom | yeah, devs like you seem to dominate the whole FOSS world |
22:02.10 | ShalokShalom | the whole FOSS world... ? |
22:02.19 | ShalokShalom | no, there is a little village... :D |
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22:04.10 | genstorm | ShalokShalom: from time to time, the tree of devs needs to be fed with fresh blood |
22:04.17 | Vonor | asterix wasn't foss...the recipe for the magic drink was closed source :P |
22:04.30 | ShalokShalom | hahaaha :D |
22:04.34 | ShalokShalom | @both ^^ |
22:04.42 | ShalokShalom | epic :) |
22:05.41 | ShalokShalom | ah, autostart is available now in krunner ^^ |
22:07.30 | Bitwise | Hello, how can I disable window tabbing for a specific application? |
22:08.06 | Bitwise | I don't see anything in "Special Application Settings" to disable tabbing. |
22:09.13 | ShalokShalom | system settings > windows behaviour ? |
22:10.15 | ShalokShalom | nope, just for activitis and workspaces |
22:10.22 | demm | ShalokShalom: systemsettings > startup and shutdown |
22:10.39 | Bitwise | ShalokShalom, I only want to disable it for specific applications. |
22:10.58 | ShalokShalom | demm: please ? |
22:11.16 | ShalokShalom | i already found autostart, if you mean that, thanks :) |
22:11.25 | demm | ok |
22:11.26 | ShalokShalom | alt + f2 find it now |
22:11.31 | ShalokShalom | thanks :) |
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22:14.28 | demm | Bitwise: tried right click on the application top window border > more actions > special application settings? |
22:15.37 | ShalokShalom | he writes: I don't see anything in "Special Application Settings" to disable tabbing. |
22:15.40 | ShalokShalom | :) |
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22:17.05 | Bitwise | demm, Yes that's what I was saying I did. I think I found it though. I think I found it as "Autogroup with identical" or "Autogroup in foreground" |
22:17.30 | Bitwise | Forcing those to "No" seems to work. |
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22:18.44 | ShalokShalom | ah, fine :) |
22:18.56 | ShalokShalom | while autogroup means something different, iirc |
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22:22.44 | sdfg | What would cause a specific application to use different settings from anything else? VirtualBox is using a different colour scheme from the one I've selected o.o |
22:23.03 | sdfg | Oh, wait, qt4? |
22:23.36 | sdfg | But it's using the breeze widget theme, hmm. |
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22:42.54 | wallie_ | Hello everyone |
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23:14.53 | Harrold | Hi. I have a slight problem with Kde-5.4 and Plasma 5. It starts with a black screen and I can open a terminal with alt+f2. When I start plasmashell manually, I get the shell back, but as soon as I press the "kde" button in the bottom left, plasmashell crashes with the message https://paste.kde.org/pscmjtsut |
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23:16.50 | Harrold | Is anyone available to hel me troubleshooting maybe? |
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23:25.29 | ShalokShalom | Harrold: you can ask here #kwin and here #plasma as well :) |
23:25.29 | LapJup | y'all could make my life lots easier if you had LinNeighborhood available for kde :-) http://www.mozillaquest.org/Linux03/Mandrake_9-1_Linux_Networking_LinNeighborhood_Story01.html#Introduction it looks abandoned.http://pkgs.repoforge.org/linneighborhood/ |
23:26.19 | LapJup | there is a screenshot towards the bottom of that mozillaquest article |
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23:27.38 | LapJup | http://www.tucows.com/preview/26672/LinNeighborhood |
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23:30.14 | tosky | LapJup: smb4k |
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