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02:05.24utu8ois there a separate Okular app for windows without installing all the other KDE stuff?
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03:11.49qwerty_Hello, I wrote simple opengl program. It looks vert unsmooth in kde and looks perfect in openbox. What is that and how can it be fixed?
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04:42.28Igelhello is there any x1 carbon lenovo users with debian & kde, what is your set up for other kernels? i loose left/right mouse (become mousewheel up/down)
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06:00.25aditsuhi, are you guys using kwallet? I never used it before, but it seems necessary for certain things, and I'm very confused
06:00.33aditsuit asks me to choose a password, and after I do that, it asks me to choose a password o_O
06:00.41aditsuso I don't understand what's going on… I uploaded a couple of screenshots at http://imgur.com/a/1BFqB
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06:15.29boombatowerquite literally one of the most useful things https://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Plasmoids#Pastebin_Widget
06:15.44boombatowerjust played with klipper actions, but doesn't work on screenshot...hmm
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06:50.59wowanameslowpoke made it on irc... 20 years late
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08:43.16ke4nhwJust installed Centos 6 on a netbook with touchpad. Gnome is allowing me to configure tapping, and it works normally under Gnome. KDE has no options for enabling tapping or anything else touchpad related.
08:43.32ke4nhwAny idea where it is and what I need to get it working?
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08:47.34thiagoinstall the missing package
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08:48.16thiagothere is a module for configuring the touchpad
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09:03.47ke4nhwwhat is the module?
09:03.57ke4nhwI'm not finding a whole lot on google
09:04.13ke4nhwmissing package?
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09:37.37yedidaHi, I'm trying to have add a custom Solid action for a CD that contains DICOM images
09:37.54yedidaI already have a program installed that can display them.
09:38.18yedidaBasically I want that if a CD has a file called DICOMDIR in its toplevel directory,
09:38.30yedidathis action will be (optionally?) run
09:39.18yedidaI found https://techbase.https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Solid/Device_Actionskde.org/Development/Tutorials/Solid/Device_Actions
09:39.19lordievaderGood morning.
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09:40.00yedidaBut I don't understand how to add a condition of the file name
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12:49.23BluesKajdoes kdeconnect do streaming?
12:50.14BluesKajI can transfer photos etc. but never tried streaming
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13:53.13BlaXpiritBluesKaj, did you give it a try?
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14:00.28BluesKajBlaXpirit, ??
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15:05.41ToxicFrogHow do I turn on double click to open, single click to select in Dolphin 15.08.3 in plasma5?
15:06.00ToxicFrogThe options dialogue in Dolphin has no such option; the system settings "file manage" settings does, but Dolphin ignores it.
15:06.44eplightningI’m pretty sure this option was somewhere in system settings -> input devices -> mouse
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15:07.50ToxicFrogeplightning: and there it is.
15:07.57ToxicFrogThat is not at all where I would expect it to be.
15:08.06ToxicFrogEspecially since there's another setting under File Manager that doesn't work.
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15:19.39BlaXpiritsingle click to open rocks though
15:20.34BlaXpiritToxicFrog, you think it doesn't work
15:20.40BlaXpiritbut in reality it's probably about Konqueror
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15:21.34ToxicFrogBlaXpirit: then it should be labled "konqueror" and not "file manager"; I expect the latter to apply to the default file manager.
15:21.37BlaXpiriti don't have Konqueror and don't have such a "File Manager" dialog
15:21.51BlaXpiritwell it is the default file manager in some sense :|
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15:23.09ToxicFrogNot in the sense that it's what actually opens, though.
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17:39.08hexnewbieWhat's the key to getting Marble to support a touchscreen? Before I upgraded to Ubuntu Trusty, it supported multitouch perfectly. Now, it doesn't register *ANY* touch at all. Same under KDE, Gnome or Unity. Even after killing all touchscreen helper utilities. Is there configuration somewhere or something?
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17:41.47hexnewbieShould I try deleting ~/.kde?
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17:47.21SonikkuAmericahexnewbie: Make sure you're using evdev and not libinput
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17:48.30hexnewbieSonikkuAmerica: Thanks for the pointer. :) Will check that
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18:01.29GuiTorishey all! Does anyone use dm-crypt under KDE? I tried to make an encrypted flashdrive, but KDE mounts for root
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18:05.36ke4nhwHi, I installed Centos 6 32bit on a netbook using ipxe install. In Gnome, everything works as expected, and I can configure tapping on the touch pad. in KDE, I can use the touch pad to move the mouse around (so it's not completely disabled) but I have no options for configuring it. Can someone help me on this one?
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18:08.11hexnewbieke4nhw: I use xinput to configure, and then put the commands in my .xsessionrc . Ever since the synaptics driver maintainers decided to disable tapping by default they've made life miserable for KDE users.
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18:09.19ke4nhwokay, so it's a driver problem then. So why is it configurable by default install in gnome? Gnome us it's own drivers?
18:09.29ke4nhwuse*
18:10.22hexnewbieke4nhw: No, but GNOME knows how to configure it. KDE (or at least my version) doesn't know how to set xinput settings such as touchpad tapping, or mouse deceleration, so I use xinput and place the commands in .xsessionrc
18:10.23SonikkuAmericaNo, GNOME uses the same drivers in most cases
18:10.39SonikkuAmerica(I'm on GNOME right now)
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18:11.13ke4nhwokay. Is xinput cli or gui
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18:12.07hexnewbieke4nhw: CLI. "xinput" prints the devices, "xinput --list-props 'The Name of the Touchpad'" would print the props for it.
18:12.41hexnewbieke4nhw: Then you put "xinput --set-prop 'Device Name' 'Property Name' 1" in .xsessionrc and you're done
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18:13.03hexnewbieOf course, I also add two-finger scrolling (if my touchpad supports it), side-scrolling, etc.
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18:14.09ke4nhwOkay, I'll take a closer look through the man page
18:14.42ke4nhwsee about how to find the device name (whether it's the /dev or the common name, etc)
18:15.32ke4nhwAnother question, will it change the setup I already have in gnome, and will I have to do this for any other user I add (which is no big deal I might only add one more user)
18:15.49hexnewbieSonikkuAmerica: It's using evdev, no libinput anywhere in the Xorg log - or would this appear somewhere else?
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18:16.18hexnewbieSonikkuAmerica: Touchscreen works for Marble menus, no touchscreen inside the window. If I start ginn I can zoom in or out with ginn, but other than that, I can't even move the map
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18:17.09SonikkuAmericahexnewbie: It'd be in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
18:17.28hexnewbieAlso xinput lists it as evdev device
18:18.06ke4nhwokay using the man page I've listed the properties
18:18.27ke4nhwI'm gonna go digging on the Internet see if I can find a doc to explain all the property values
18:19.01ke4nhwDon't wanna change a value to the wrong thing, or mess with values that need to be left alone
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18:20.46Guest29945Where can i find an Softwarecenter in opensuse 13.2 ?
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18:21.14hexnewbieke4nhw: I have this on my laptop: https://paste.debian.net/338289/ TWO WARNINGS: I've written that ages ago, I don't remember what some of the options are (some don't even work on my new laptop), and specifying -*int*-prop with the size of the integer is probably unnecessary. So just --set-prop and skip the first number,  MAYBE.
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18:22.06Guest29945Do you speak german ?
18:22.26SonikkuAmericaNein.
18:22.31hexnewbieke4nhw: Also restarting X fixes things if you mess the values :)
18:22.35Guest29945Ok
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18:23.00r-kuis it possible to make all applications remember to what desktop they were moved?
18:24.51Guest29945desktop Kde
18:25.12ke4nhwIf restarting x resets it I'll have to deal with this every time?
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18:25.45ke4nhwI'm also seeing a lot about kcm_touchpad but I don't seem to be able to find it in the repos
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18:28.30hexnewbieke4nhw: By the way, I may have lied to you. Just noticed that Ubuntu has KDE configuration panel for touchpad. Perhaps you're missing a package installed?
18:28.54ke4nhwI'm on CentOS 6
18:28.59hexnewbieke4nhw: But no, you put commands to be executed on login in .xsessionrc - which doesn't work on all distros.
18:29.03hexnewbieOr DEs.
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18:33.33hexnewbieUgh, touchscreen only hovers in Marble, as if it is not focused or something.
18:36.15ke4nhwwhat package are you saying I'm missing, and where should I look to get it?
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18:38.05hexnewbieIt's kde-config-touchpad (or kde-touchpad) in Debian/Ubuntu
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18:39.29ke4nhwI got bupkis
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18:40.41hexnewbieMarble is printing this in the console when I try to tap: "Got touch without getting TouchBegin for id 337"
18:41.54ke4nhwI'm seeing something floating on the web about kcm_touchpad, but can't find it in the repos, can't find a repo for it, can't even find an rpm for my distro (pretty common distro
18:41.57ke4nhw)
18:42.52ke4nhwBest I found is the source, cept I'm not a coder to rewrite and recompile the thing for my distro
18:44.03hexnewbieI would try xinput first - it's easier, and it works for every DE
18:45.14hexnewbieUgh, turns my Marble problem is an Ubuntu bug introduced by one of their patches. Time to switch to a real distro I guess.
18:45.41hexnewbieToo bad Unity is the only Touchscreen-usable DE. :(
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18:55.20ke4nhwOkay, but documentation out there is sparse
18:55.23ke4nhwand limited
18:55.34hexnewbieke4nhw: man synaptics
18:55.43ke4nhwhmm
18:55.48ke4nhwI did man xinput
18:55.52ke4nhwoops
18:56.13hexnewbieke4nhw: I forgot to mention that, sorry. All the configuration options are there, a bit badly formatted - you have to search for the option, since they are not documented where they are listed. :)
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18:57.21hexnewbieke4nhw: There's a list at the bottom that documents what are the "properties" settable by xinput and their types, and above to which option they correspond.
18:57.53ke4nhwgods it's been so long since I've searched a man page. I usually do one of two things: either read the whole damn thing (might find other stuff I didn't even know it could do) or find the man page online, so I can search it easier
18:58.27ke4nhwAwesome
18:58.39ke4nhwI just dread what I've got to do next to this poor netbook
18:58.42hexnewbieke4nhw: By the way, you could put the options in a properly-crafted file in xorg.conf.d (something I avoided doing since I got fed up with the synaptics/hal/udev debacle). Testing with xinput first is, of course, preferable
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18:59.11ke4nhwnow that's something I've seen online the xorg.conf.d
18:59.22hexnewbieOf course, the names in xinput and xorg.conf are different (to make everything easier), but both are documented in the man page
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18:59.25ke4nhwstill haven't seen a reference to .xsessionrc anywhere
19:00.07ke4nhwto make everything easier?
19:00.33hexnewbie.xsessionrc just a file that KDE sources on some distros, and you can force source them elsewhere too
19:01.21ke4nhwbut xorg.conf will be read by X itself, thus affecting kde, gnome (which is currently working perfectly), and others?
19:01.24hexnewbieFor example, Debian has /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc which sources ~/.xsessionrc
19:01.39hexnewbieBut GNOME doesn't source it on Ubuntu for some reason.
19:02.04hexnewbieConsistency all the way!
19:02.17ke4nhwI'm debating on whether or not I should put on my SUperhero costume for this one
19:02.38ke4nhwlooks like lots of file editing across directories where my reguser may not have privs
19:02.47hexnewbieYou should dress as a superhero for when you pay a visit to the people responsible for this mess
19:03.07ke4nhwThe caps above were intentional
19:03.24hexnewbieWell, hm, no.
19:03.29ke4nhwShould have said su-perhero
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19:04.21hexnewbieI'll advise you to just run xinput --set-prop to see what happens. If it works for you, try putting it in .xsessionrc. If that doesn't work, then resort to switchuserheroing
19:04.53ke4nhwWell before the lecture on the use of root (and man have I heard this one too much) I do use root, have used root for years, I just have a policy on root commands: check, doublecheck, reread the docs, reread the command, then take echo off the front of the line if everything is good
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19:06.02ke4nhwI don't see why they stopped supporting it. I also don't see why KDE hasn't started supporting it on its own, even if it means using the old driver/modules and retweaking them every now and then.
19:06.06hexnewbieThe proper order is: check, doublecheck, reread the docs, reread the command, then accidentally paste completely unrelated command copied from 4chan into the root console.
19:06.21BlaXpirit:D
19:06.27ke4nhwlol
19:07.07ke4nhwActually I will, as a matter of practice, enter most commands on a root console as 'echo blah blah blah'
19:07.28ke4nhwThat why even if I get froggy and hit enter before I reread my typing, it's just going to the stdout
19:07.44GuiTorisI placed a lock/logout widget to the panel. If I click on that, I'll get a gray panel, where I can choose from reboot, shutdown and logout. How can I make shutdown default? And I need to confirm it (or wait 30 seconds), can I leave out this one? I need to click 3 times if I'd like to shut my computer off. Is there a way to change this?
19:07.45ke4nhwIf I like it I can remove echo
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19:09.13ke4nhwNot sure I don't use the widgets I go straight to the proper spot in the menu
19:09.17ke4nhwdo it that way
19:09.58ke4nhwOne surefire way, and it's fewer clicks if you leave one open like I do, is to pull up your handy dandy terminal and type 'sudo shutdown now' and give your password
19:10.22ke4nhwoff it goes into quiet serenity until needed again
19:11.18BlaXpiritke4nhw, that's so very lame
19:11.19ke4nhwOr build a script that you can link to the desktop
19:11.30BlaXpiritGuiToris, it's a a separate settings
19:11.31ke4nhwone click and it's naptime
19:11.45ke4nhwlame yes but effective
19:12.10BlaXpiritGuiToris, "Desktop Session"
19:12.12GuiToriske4nhw, I used to shutdown my computer with poweroff, but I had some artifacts. KDE didn't save something or similar things
19:12.14ke4nhwbut so is using the shutdown/logout on the menu
19:12.31ke4nhwahh
19:13.17GuiTorissorry BlaXpirit, I don't understand it this time :/
19:13.17ke4nhwI'm just getting back into using the gui's again, it's been about a year and a half that I've used nothing but cli
19:13.26BlaXpiritGuiToris, search that in menu
19:13.34BlaXpiritit has all the settings you're asking for
19:13.52GuiTorisgenious :)
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19:15.39BlaXpiritpretty sure GuiToris just unchecked "Confirm logout" :p
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19:18.57GuiTorisThanks BlaXpirit it worked like charmed. Could you help me about mounting to or I should ask it on an other channel? :)
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21:42.17aaronm04Hi, so I have a problem with KDE4 on OpenBSD: even though I have the time zone set correctly for the system, KDE's clock doesn't recognize it and shows UTC
21:42.55aaronm04I went into Date & Time in the System Settings to try to set the time zone, but it only has "UTC" listed, and it says "You are not allowed to save the configuration"
21:43.31aaronm04What is going on here, and how do I add my timezone? Thanks!
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