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10:26.14 | kolandra | ifyou have free time: https://github.com/xylosper/bomi/issues/452#issuecomment-173604049 |
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11:28.04 | jmorganti | Hi all,someone can tell me how to change the Plasma theme?, I managed to change the theme of programs, but I dont manage to change the color of the taskbar |
11:28.18 | NanoSector | hey |
11:28.28 | NanoSector | there's a special Workspace Appearance panel in your system settings |
11:29.01 | BlaXpirit | jmorganti, desktop theme |
11:29.27 | jmorganti | NanoSector, BlaXpirit you both are genius,thank you very much,thank you |
11:29.36 | NanoSector | np :) |
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11:30.16 | jmorganti | a last question,do you know to to make a little transparent the programs, like the xchat for example? |
11:32.22 | BlaXpirit | jmorganti, you can make a shortcut to quickly make any program transparent |
11:32.28 | BlaXpirit | or go to window menu in topleft |
11:32.31 | BlaXpirit | special window settings |
11:32.56 | BlaXpirit | to always apply different rules, which include transparency, to a particular kind of window - jmorganti |
11:33.34 | jmorganti | transparence in kde is called opacity? |
11:33.40 | BlaXpirit | jmorganti, uh yes |
11:33.47 | jmorganti | ah,ok, thank you |
11:33.54 | BlaXpirit | jmorganti, transparency is the opposite of opacity |
11:34.01 | jmorganti | yes, I see now |
11:34.02 | jmorganti | thanks |
11:34.12 | NanoSector | 20% opacity means 80% transparency |
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11:38.04 | jmorganti | this was the most effective IRC channel I saw, in 2 minutes the questions solved |
11:41.53 | NanoSector | :) |
11:42.17 | NanoSector | other channels can be effective too, depends on if there's a lot of people around |
11:43.23 | jmorganti | Maybe you are right,but according to my experience this was the most fast, also many times in other channels you get answered "but why you use X?, change ot Y" |
11:43.58 | NanoSector | you should use what you feel comfortable with |
11:44.04 | jmorganti | of course |
11:44.14 | jmorganti | I was using for years fluxbox |
11:44.18 | jmorganti | I love KDE now |
11:44.22 | NanoSector | :) |
11:44.31 | NanoSector | I hop between DEs a lot |
11:44.47 | jmorganti | Des? |
11:45.14 | NanoSector | desktop environments, e.g. GNOME and KDE |
11:45.40 | jmorganti | ah, ok |
11:45.55 | jmorganti | KDE is in debian available just from Jessia |
11:45.59 | jmorganti | Jessie |
11:46.10 | NanoSector | Plasma 5 you mean? |
11:46.19 | jmorganti | yes |
11:46.26 | NanoSector | yeah |
11:46.29 | NanoSector | Plasma 5 isn't so old |
11:46.42 | NanoSector | I use Arch Linux myself, it has had it for a while now |
11:46.51 | NanoSector | but it's mostly been unstable for a lot of people |
11:46.58 | NanoSector | until 5.5 where things cleared up a lot |
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11:47.09 | BlaXpirit | 5.4 was better than 5.5 for me |
11:47.26 | NanoSector | I didn't notice a difference |
11:47.34 | BlaXpirit | it's good that latest ubuntu has 5.4 |
11:48.06 | BlaXpirit | kubuntu remains a viable distro for now |
11:49.46 | NanoSector | i only have panel crashes at times when e.g. my network changes |
11:51.11 | BlaXpirit | NanoSector, i have panel crashes all the time on all my virtualbox VMs |
11:51.28 | NanoSector | :( |
11:51.43 | NanoSector | and I had tearing but that fixed with setting DRI3 for my intel graphics |
11:51.44 | BlaXpirit | hard to determine the exact cause, can be whenever i move mouse overit |
11:51.59 | NanoSector | yeah there's not really a single cause here either |
11:52.10 | NanoSector | mostly when my wifi drops or something |
11:52.14 | NanoSector | or when editing widgets |
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12:05.16 | BluesKaj | Hi all |
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12:24.58 | a-l-e | i have questions relating to the inner workings of the kross scripting engine... |
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12:25.07 | a-l-e | anybody around who knows about it? |
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12:28.27 | solvarr | Yesterday I found that after I ugpraded kde from 5.4.3 to 5.5.3, dolphin crashes almost everytime configure dolphin is clicked. |
12:28.48 | BlaXpirit | solvarr, happens. not that it didn't happen in 5.4... |
12:29.01 | solvarr | It did? |
12:29.09 | BlaXpirit | for me it did |
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12:29.53 | solvarr | I downloaded opensuse iso with kde 5.4, installed it in a virtual machine and it didn't happen. |
12:29.57 | solvarr | That's strange. |
12:30.14 | solvarr | I also downloaded manjaro with kde 5.5.1 and it also didn't happen. |
12:30.19 | a-l-e | is there a place where i can talk to people who know about kross? |
12:30.32 | solvarr | They both start crashing after I upgraded them to 5.5.3. |
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12:34.58 | Omikron | Hello Gentlements i need your help with problem. This is Kde related. Im using Manjaro XFCE Kernel 4.1.15-2 and i have a Nvidia Gtx 960 installed. When I turn my Montitor off and on again i get this error message |
12:35.07 | Omikron | http://dpaste.com/31DS4BB |
12:35.49 | BlaXpirit | how do you "get" it |
12:36.03 | BlaXpirit | and why do you have plasmashell if you say you're runnign xfce |
12:36.25 | Omikron | sorry mistyped |
12:36.34 | Omikron | im actually using plasma 5 right now |
12:37.55 | Omikron | i dont know how i got this error message. On xfce my computer doenst even turn on my monitor back on again when turning it off |
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13:24.37 | Omikron | ok i guess you cannot help me this problem. Arent there any developers in this channel= |
13:24.39 | Omikron | ? |
13:25.05 | a-l-e | is also looking for kde developers... |
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14:05.40 | silentz0r | plasmashell hits up to 100% cpu every 1 or 2 seconds, making the system completely unresponsive for a brief moment. Any ideas? |
14:09.22 | Cova | Hi all, I'm seeing a weird behaviour in kde printing (KDE5): when I try to print the test page on a postscriptmprinter (HP1300) it takes ages and the file sent to printer is 10 times bigger than the original .ps. Using test from hplip all works fine. Anyone with the same issue? |
14:11.12 | BlaXpirit | what is "kde printing"? |
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14:25.18 | Cova | BlaXpirit: I mean in printer setup |
14:25.41 | Cova | under hardware |
14:26.36 | Cova | I think that this is due to the fact that the original file is postscript, that gets translated to pdf and then again in postscrpit, being the printer a PS one. |
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14:27.51 | Cova | basically, I'm referring to systemsettings5 |
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15:45.17 | NanoSector | Is there a possibility in KDE to suspend the screensaver/locker when certain applications are running? Right now the screensaver/locker kicks in in the middle of a game with a controller :( |
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15:49.35 | NanoSector | okay opening specific application settings for the game causes it to go funky |
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15:56.19 | rdieter_work | NanoSector: yes, there's a screensaver inhibitor api apps can use |
15:57.04 | BlaXpirit | "can" |
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15:57.43 | rdieter_work | NanoSector: if the app doesn't use it natively, if you can get the WindowID, you can use: xdg-screensaver suspend WindowID |
15:57.44 | NanoSector | but don't :) |
15:57.54 | BlaXpirit | the real problem here is that desktop doesn't care that controller is being used |
15:58.06 | NanoSector | okay but there's no settings for that? |
15:58.16 | NanoSector | I'd prefer not to run a command manually every time when starting a game |
15:59.10 | rdieter_work | NanoSector: if the app doesn't do it automatically yourself, it requires you to actually *do* something for it, sorry |
15:59.29 | rdieter_work | sorry, I meant "automatically *itself*" |
15:59.30 | NanoSector | crap now i have to do something :( |
15:59.37 | NanoSector | haha |
15:59.39 | NanoSector | thanks anyway |
15:59.56 | NanoSector | also I've been told by the Dolphin emulator developers that Dolphin tries to suspend screensavers by itself |
16:00.18 | NanoSector | guess it doesn't try hard enough? |
16:00.28 | rdieter_work | apparently not |
16:00.33 | rdieter_work | or it's buggy |
16:01.15 | rdieter_work | NanoSector: are you using recent plasma5? |
16:01.35 | rdieter_work | the battery/power applet should show all active screensaver/power inhibitors, if they exist |
16:01.41 | NanoSector | I run Plasma 5.5 on Arch |
16:01.46 | NanoSector | Hmm fair point |
16:02.05 | NanoSector | No it is not listed |
16:02.19 | rdieter_work | then it's not working |
16:02.51 | rdieter_work | for example, for me, if I play a movie using vlc, now the battery applet lists: VLC media player is currently suppressing power management: Playing some media |
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16:03.06 | NanoSector | Yeah I've seen it before |
16:03.18 | NanoSector | But Dolphin doesn't get listed |
16:03.20 | rdieter_work | that's the api I mentioned, that apps can use |
16:03.53 | rdieter_work | so either dolphin isn't using it, or isn't using it properly |
16:04.14 | BlaXpirit | the real problem here is that desktop doesn't care that controller is being used |
16:04.23 | NanoSector | Yeah |
16:04.31 | NanoSector | Dolphin cares, but desktop doesn't, I can imagine |
16:04.39 | BlaXpirit | nothing good comes to mind |
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16:04.57 | NanoSector | rdieter_work: I'll have a chat with them, thanks |
16:05.04 | BlaXpirit | best workaround: get some app that translates controller presses to keyboard presses |
16:05.14 | BlaXpirit | and make them all press scroll lock or something |
16:05.30 | rdieter_work | or just use the inhibitor api properly, that's why it exists |
16:05.38 | BlaXpirit | rdieter_work, sigh |
16:06.08 | BlaXpirit | first of all, this is NOT proper use of the inhibitor api |
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16:06.24 | BlaXpirit | if someone goes away and leaves their game, that doesn't mean the computer must not be suspended |
16:06.27 | BlaXpirit | this is stupid |
16:06.34 | rdieter_work | BlaXpirit: sure it is, why shouldn't an active game inhibit screensaver? |
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16:06.42 | BlaXpirit | i just said |
16:06.44 | NanoSector | but what if the game has a long cutscene? |
16:06.56 | rdieter_work | BlaXpirit: I said active, you said "leaves their game", not the same |
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16:07.25 | rdieter_work | reporter claimed it already has support for this, maybe it's just a simple (fixable) bug |
16:07.39 | NanoSector | There's no way for the emulator to know if there's a long cutscene or just no activity from the user |
16:07.47 | NanoSector | For all it knows it could be emulating such cutscene |
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16:09.11 | NanoSector | https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin/blob/696d6eae099feba23c280017c5184785fc1e3076/Source/Core/DolphinWX/X11Utils.cpp#L48 |
16:09.16 | NanoSector | Seems it tries to use xdg-screensaver |
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16:50.36 | smead | So, For reasons discussed previously, I'm always right clicking my desktop and having to Add -> Default Panel. Is there a way to customize my panel settings and 'Add -> My Panel' ? |
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17:19.42 | Mo | Hi There is ~/.kde4/Autostart/, but is there something to be run at logout? |
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17:30.12 | dlam | hey how do i enable emacs keybindings on the desktop? like when im in google chrome and in the address bar, i wanna press Ctrl+E to go the end of line, and like Ctrl+W to delete the previous word etc. |
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17:58.51 | Tatsh | is there no longer a place to customise the time format exactly? |
17:59.03 | Tatsh | i'm in the US, but i always use YYYY-mm-dd HH:mm:ss |
17:59.11 | Tatsh | whether short form or long |
17:59.34 | Tatsh | best bet for me as far as i can tell is to use zh_TW for time settings even though this adds a part i don't want |
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18:29.41 | thisischrys | anyone know why a kcm module might be grayed out or how to get logging for them? |
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18:35.44 | NanoSector | thisischrys: do you have anything entered in your search bar? |
18:36.34 | thisischrys | nope, not the main kcm screen, but one of the modules (grub 2 editor) I tried running it with kcmshell5 but it gives no useful output |
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18:54.25 | psychof | On plasma 5.4.3, I don't have the option to add a calendar to the clock on the bottom right of the screen. Is it a package I needed to install or a configuration I need to make. I installed akonadi, I thought I needed to install it but still no calendar. |
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18:57.35 | thisischrys | psychof: if you right click it, do you see alternatives? if so, what is currently selected? |
18:58.15 | psychof | a digital clock |
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19:00.42 | psychof | I need to specify, I think there should be a list of holidays on the right of the regular calendar, that is what I would like to have displayed. |
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19:06.47 | spiderkeys | Hi, I've got Ubuntu 14.04 with KDE 4.13.3 installed. After doing an apt-get update/upgrade the other day, my computer seems to be going into hibernate every 5 minutes or so, even if I'm moving the mouse. I have checked the Power settings in System Settings->Power Management, but there doesn't seem to be anything causing it there. Also checked /var/log/pm-suspend.log, which shows it happening, but doesn't say what triggered it. Any id |
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21:02.25 | popnfloss | in global shortcuts it only has an option for the master channel |
21:02.57 | popnfloss | and i want the volume buttons on my headset to change the volume for the headset device, not the onboard sound |
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21:07.31 | jonascj | Hi all. On ubuntu 14.04 I have installed Okular (v. 0.19.3) which should support saving pdf annotations to the pdf-file itself. |
21:07.59 | jonascj | That however requires libpoppler 0.20+ (maybe 0.22+), and I am unsure how to check / verify which version my okular is built against |
21:10.30 | jonascj | Okay, it appears to be built against the right version, I just needed "file -> save as" to save the ocmments, "file -> save copy" wasn't enough. |
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21:11.46 | jonascj | Hmm, only the yellow highlight marks etc. are there, the comments which should be visible when clicking on a high-light is not |
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21:15.26 | Tirili | Hey, today I bought 50 new fresh empty CD-ROMs, but when I put them into my dvd-burner, most of them are not even recognized as an empty medium. |
21:15.40 | Tirili | by k3b |
21:16.05 | Tirili | I could finally burn one (with minor errors), but it cannot be read now. |
21:21.31 | saptech | Tirili, cheap unknown brand? |
21:21.57 | Tirili | Brand name is "isy" |
21:22.04 | Tirili | 50 for 12,99 Euros |
21:22.30 | saptech | I never heard of that brand. But I'm in the States |
21:22.37 | Tirili | Maybe they lay around in the store for some years? |
21:22.54 | saptech | that could be, how old is the drive |
21:23.10 | saptech | a number of reason could cause not to work |
21:24.25 | Tirili | Several drives don't recognize them. |
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21:24.48 | saptech | hmmm, may be a bad batch |
21:24.51 | Tirili | I doubt it's the drive of my laptop, because it can work with other empty CDs. |
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21:26.14 | Tirili | I'll try and do a reclamation, because 80% of all blanks were not detected at all. |
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21:39.42 | Tirili | saptech, thank you for your help though :) |
21:40.03 | saptech | yw |
21:40.54 | saptech | I just bought a bunch of HP DVD-R discs recently and so far no problems |
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21:43.48 | jaggzt | any of you have problems with the PrintScreen key's screenshot tool making windows disappear? |
21:44.12 | jaggzt | I have to exit that window and re-printscreen several times before I can keep my desired window up front |
21:44.43 | jaggzt | (the capture DOES get the whole screen.. but I have it set so I can draw a rectangular region.. so I need the window to stay so I can drag) |
21:45.02 | jaggzt | it might be that setting which causes it.. need to test that.. nevertheless, the problem still exists at least with that setting on |
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