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| 00:20.32 | mark4_ | how do i make my panel multi line? |
| 00:22.40 | mark4_ | when i adjust the height every widget on it also scales |
| 00:22.44 | mark4_ | NOT what im trying to do |
| 00:35.36 | mark4_ | how do i HIDE a task from the taskbar? |
| 00:35.51 | mark4_ | just a specific task i dont want showing on the taskbar. ever |
| 00:36.05 | mark4_ | do want the app to run, dont want an entry in the taskbar for it |
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| 01:24.09 | mark4 | eery time i launch chromium it complains that it is not the default browser so i set it as default. |
| 01:24.21 | mark4 | next time i launch it it is not the default browser again |
| 01:27.30 | Walreason | mark4: sometimes the application itself is not the best at controlling defaults. |
| 01:27.45 | Walreason | mark4: better to use the kde settings. |
| 01:28.07 | mark4 | where is that setting? |
| 01:29.37 | Walreason | mark4: system settings / Applications (top side bar item). |
| 01:30.36 | mark4 | ty |
| 01:30.50 | mark4 | ok so i set chromium in there |
| 01:30.59 | mark4 | launch it and.... is not the default browser |
| 01:31.01 | mark4 | wtf |
| 01:31.57 | mark4 | yup. i select4ed chromium from the ... and it pout in |
| 01:32.17 | mark4 | chromium-browser-chromium |
| 01:32.23 | mark4 | launch chromium and.... |
| 01:32.29 | mark4 | is not the default browser |
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| 01:36.30 | Walreason | mark4: well it works here. Did you set FF to always insist it is the default? |
| 01:36.41 | mark4 | i unmerged ff |
| 01:36.42 | mark4 | gone |
| 01:37.45 | Walreason | we call that uninstalled. |
| 01:38.10 | mark4 | gentoo calls it unmerged |
| 01:38.40 | Walreason | How unfortunate. No wonder it doesn't work. ;-) |
| 01:38.54 | mark4 | fsck u :) |
| 01:38.55 | mark4 | lol |
| 01:39.33 | Walreason | In the title bar of this very window, right click and see if you have more actions listed |
| 01:40.12 | mark4 | the xchat window? |
| 01:40.20 | mark4 | or the chromium window |
| 01:40.34 | mark4 | chromium has a list of stuff under that menu |
| 01:40.37 | Walreason | Yeah, the kde title bar of the xchat window.. |
| 01:41.06 | mark4 | that menu hhas quite a few items in it |
| 01:41.07 | Walreason | Select Special Applciation options |
| 01:41.33 | mark4 | special application settings? |
| 01:41.53 | mark4 | tha window is too tall for my display\ |
| 01:41.57 | Walreason | Yes, then Select Arrangement and Access settings tab |
| 01:41.58 | mark4 | and not resizeable |
| 01:42.02 | mark4 | fucking stupid people |
| 01:42.19 | Walreason | It is resizeable... |
| 01:42.25 | mark4 | no its not |
| 01:42.26 | mark4 | i tried |
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| 01:42.41 | mark4 | it wont shrink smaller than its content allows |
| 01:43.10 | mark4 | oh skip taskbar? in regards to a much earlier question? |
| 01:43.32 | Walreason | SEE I knew that might catch your eye..... |
| 01:43.38 | mark4 | lol |
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| 01:44.24 | Walreason | And its is supposed to be specific to an application. So it won't hose over all the other apps. |
| 01:44.39 | mark4 | yea |
| 01:45.04 | mark4 | i think u used to be able to click on the task bar item and somewhere under there was the skip option |
| 01:45.09 | mark4 | now its buried deep |
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| 01:46.09 | Walreason | Its because there was so much bitching about loss of kde3 options they threw them all in that hidden panel for the 7 people that wanted them. |
| 01:46.43 | Walreason | I have no idea what half of those things actually do..... |
| 01:47.26 | mark4 | lol |
| 01:48.34 | mark4 | is it possible to make the panel multi line? |
| 01:49.18 | Walreason | Right click task bar, task manager settings |
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| 01:49.55 | mark4 | no. that just makes it TALLER |
| 01:50.00 | mark4 | rescaling all the widgets to match |
| 01:50.20 | Walreason | Set multi line to 2, and click enforce. |
| 01:50.58 | Walreason | Then when you drag it bigger (you have to be at least as tall as two small icons) it will pop to multi line and enforce staking. |
| 01:51.08 | mark4 | dont see that opton |
| 01:51.43 | Walreason | task manager settings, |
| 01:51.45 | mark4 | ok i see it doing it |
| 01:51.50 | mark4 | but ONLY for the task manager |
| 01:51.56 | mark4 | not for the reset of it |
| 01:51.59 | Walreason | I think so... |
| 01:52.08 | mark4 | i still have HUGE ICONS docked |
| 01:52.09 | Walreason | The tray too. |
| 01:52.15 | mark4 | yup tray too |
| 01:52.31 | Walreason | Did you click enforce? |
| 01:52.43 | mark4 | did not see anything that said enforce |
| 01:52.54 | Walreason | top checkbox |
| 01:53.04 | mark4 | no "enforce" |
| 01:53.22 | mark4 | always arrange tasks in columns of as many rows |
| 01:53.25 | mark4 | is checked |
| 01:53.27 | Walreason | What about just force? |
| 01:53.46 | mark4 | and i have 4 small items in my tray and ONE HUGE one |
| 01:53.53 | mark4 | not in there |
| 01:53.54 | mark4 | no force |
| 01:53.55 | mark4 | no enforce |
| 01:54.27 | Walreason | What about the word Always? |
| 01:54.36 | mark4 | yes i said that. its checked |
| 01:54.39 | mark4 | its not changing anything |
| 01:54.51 | mark4 | i still have HUGE ICONS in the panel |
| 01:55.00 | mark4 | and some small and SOME HUGE items in the tray |
| 01:55.52 | mark4 | i want ALL small. not mix-n-match. |
| 01:56.08 | mark4 | seems like this is something the kde devs only half thought out and 1/4 implemented :/ |
| 01:56.14 | mark4 | totally unusable in its current state |
| 01:56.33 | mark4 | its not a TASK MANAGER setting |
| 01:56.38 | mark4 | its a PANEL setting |
| 01:56.43 | Walreason | You have to Panel tall enough for two rows before it kicks in. (And you have to unlock widgets for this to happen). |
| 01:56.55 | mark4 | adjusting settings for the task manager is not going to adust those settings for the rest of the panel |
| 01:57.05 | mark4 | yes it has two rows |
| 01:57.09 | Walreason | It actually works better in kde5 than in kde5/plasma |
| 01:57.20 | mark4 | and some things are split across two rows. other things overlap two rows |
| 01:58.05 | mark4 | it DOESNT work here |
| 01:58.10 | mark4 | it hyalf ass half broken works |
| 01:58.16 | mark4 | i.e. it doesnt work |
| 01:58.32 | Walreason | Its kind of a mess in Plasma, Useable in kde4. But I just drag my pane height as small as I can still read it becuase it wastes real estate. |
| 01:58.57 | mark4 | thats what i want to do too but i want TWO rows for a reason |
| 01:59.14 | mark4 | but the fact that this is a task manager setting means its not applicable to THE PANEL |
| 01:59.20 | mark4 | only to that one item ON the panel |
| 01:59.22 | mark4 | fucking stupid |
| 01:59.47 | mark4 | the icons on the panel should NOT scale. not EVER |
| 01:59.59 | mark4 | there should be a setting to set their size |
| 02:00.28 | mark4 | my quicklaunch is not "add launcher" its "add to panel" |
| 02:00.54 | Walreason | I'm sure there is a setting someplace, but god only knoww were. |
| 02:01.57 | mark4 | the only way i can see to do this is to add TWO panels and thats moronic |
| 02:02.10 | mark4 | becayse the tray wont cover both panels |
| 02:02.18 | mark4 | the taskbar wont cover both panels |
| 02:02.49 | Walreason | Why do you need them stacked on the pane? |
| 02:02.53 | mark4 | so im stuck with one row because the devs didnt get it right |
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| 02:03.24 | mark4 | want what stacked? |
| 02:03.33 | Walreason | the panel... |
| 02:03.57 | mark4 | because i want to be able to add windowmaker dockapps to the panel. |
| 02:04.09 | mark4 | this is possible in xfce4 and there should be a way here too |
| 02:04.42 | mark4 | taskbar, quick launch, system tray all take up TWO rows |
| 02:04.51 | mark4 | one dockapp fits in TWO rows |
| 02:06.37 | Walreason | So, dockapp didn't get it right sounds like.... |
| 02:07.07 | mark4 | no |
| 02:07.32 | mark4 | in fact windowmaker is the ONLY freeking window manager in the entire history of linux/unix that "got it right" |
| 02:07.56 | mark4 | every other DE/WM looks FUGLY as hell, is slow, is bloated and drags any system its installed on into the mud |
| 02:08.12 | Walreason | Well then you are wasting your time here, since you already found nirvana somewhere else. |
| 02:08.24 | mark4 | windowmaker is fast, light, beautiful, intuitive and... seriously broken because the devs are edit one line per year mode |
| 02:08.46 | mark4 | this kde system is not actuyally for me |
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| 02:16.18 | mark4 | the windowmaker dockapps are supposed to fit across both rows of the panel |
| 02:16.26 | mark4 | the dockapps are all 64x64 exactly |
| 02:16.46 | mark4 | but they dont dock to ANY old panel |
| 02:16.58 | mark4 | they dock to what windowmaker calls "the dock" |
| 02:17.17 | mark4 | xfce4 has a simulated dock that brings windowmaker dockapps into the panel |
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| 02:58.06 | chx | occassionally kwin_x11 gets into this weird state where windows no longer work properly and opening the menu or the mixer just results in a black rectangle. i dumped http://sprunge.us/NgHQ some errors from journalctl |
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| 02:59.26 | chx | i would say the machine got unusuable around Jan 28 18:49:50 quad kwin_x11[518]: QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 3 here. |
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| 03:31.50 | themill | Why do I get a stack of dolphin processes thrashing CPU whenever I mount or unmount a removable disk from the plasma UI? udisksd and dbus-daemon also consume lots of CPU when this happens. It lasts a couple of minutes and dbus-monitor has hundreds of entries per second like http://paste.debian.net/377109/ |
| 03:34.07 | thiago | bug |
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| 03:39.19 | themill | Quite, although it strikes me as the sort of bug that wouldn't make it into a release and thus makes me wonder if there's something else screwy here. |
| 03:42.42 | themill | I also don't see it on every machine |
| 03:46.13 | thiago | right, there is something screwy |
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| 12:27.37 | Tuju | if you type email addresses into kmail's To: field, you get a pull down suggestion list. You can scroll down that list with up-down arrows, but you cannot press page down button, it doesn't do anything. |
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| 12:36.31 | Old_nick | Where find python lib for kwin thumbnail taskbar system ? |
| 12:36.57 | mgraesslin | Old_nick: I'm sorry such a thing doesn't exist |
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| 12:37.30 | Old_nick | kwin thumbnail ? |
| 12:38.03 | mgraesslin | taskbar renders thumbnails without support from KWin |
| 12:38.13 | mgraesslin | and there are no python bindings for that |
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| 12:39.25 | Old_nick | taskbar renders thumbnails |
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| 13:25.37 | not_roasted | hello friends |
| 13:26.56 | not_roasted | I'm wondering what options are out there to get a "gvfs-like" environment within KDE, i.e. where I can actually stream videos from my file server over samba, or edit libreoffice documents on the NAS without it failing to save and/or freezing up. gvfs is the ticket in other environments. Is it... possible to install (and integrate) gvfs into a KDE environment to help with that? |
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| 13:32.43 | BluesKaj | not_roasted, guess it can since gvfs is in the repos, but I have no experience with it personally |
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| 13:33.38 | BluesKaj | not_roasted, of course much depends on your OS |
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| 13:37.56 | hateball | not_roasted: are kio-slaves failing you? |
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| 13:38.36 | not_roasted | hateball: pretty much. It's been a hassle for years (there's a bug dating back to 2010 I believe on the subject) |
| 13:39.00 | hateball | I see |
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| 13:39.21 | hateball | cant say I use smb much outside of work, and that's just for various documents... not had any issues with that tho |
| 13:39.24 | not_roasted | hateball: double clicking any video type on a NAS (over smb, to the extent I've tried) downloads the video locally and then plays it (if at all). Often times, like with dragon player, it just flat out doesn't work. I figured it was a multimedia thing, but I found editing some of our tax documents I keep on the NAS to be a problem too. |
| 13:39.53 | hateball | not_roasted: I am somewhat sure that VLC can stream over smb |
| 13:40.16 | not_roasted | hateball: as in, double click, if libreoffice opens (once in a while it locks up), edit a document, save it, and it prompts me to "upload changes" (??). Sometimes this works, sometimes it sends the file across with nobody:nogroup as owner/group, thereby requiring rooting into NAS to chown it back to normal. |
| 13:40.37 | not_roasted | hateball: at one point VLC didn't, but last I tried VLC could. Dragon was still a flop though. |
| 13:41.01 | hateball | well it doesnt help that LibreOffice itself aint exactly golden for working with network shares |
| 13:41.01 | not_roasted | I experienced it on multiple distros but in the end the only common denominator is KDE itself. |
| 13:41.12 | not_roasted | hateball: in all honesty... |
| 13:41.26 | not_roasted | hateball: libre office has been absolutely flawless in literally every environment except KDE with files on network shares. :( |
| 13:41.29 | not_roasted | (in my experience) |
| 13:41.33 | hateball | Heh |
| 13:41.50 | hateball | I've had immense pains using it, mostly using UNC paths on windows tho |
| 13:41.54 | hateball | anyhowssssssss |
| 13:42.08 | not_roasted | we've got about 4,000 Linux machines here at the moment, so... if there was a widespread issue I'd be the one getting my ear chomped off being the IT guy here. |
| 13:42.14 | hateball | not_roasted: tried mounting using smbfs ? |
| 13:42.21 | hateball | as opposed to using a kio slave |
| 13:43.09 | not_roasted | hateball: I can mount via terminal without issue, but that's kind of another topic that I have an issue with, given that Dolphin literally walks me through the steps (click network, click workgroup, click NAS, etc) to proceed with a straight forward and, truth be told, wildly common feature in every other OS environment... except the KIO portion just comes up short. |
| 13:43.40 | not_roasted | Just the stance of it being seemingly available due to all of the buttons being in place to navigate through to mountain a network share easily, but it failing, makes me raise an eyebrow. |
| 13:44.01 | not_roasted | Anyway that's why I was curious about gvfs since that's something most (all?) other environments I've tried use, which all don't have this issue. |
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| 14:00.39 | anonkun | I keep on getting sending mail failed, SMTP does not support PLAIN on KMAIL, any ideas how to fix this? |
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| 14:23.07 | rdieter_work | anonkun: configure kmail to use different auth settings to match what your smtp server supports |
| 14:23.26 | anonkun | Doesnt work |
| 14:23.30 | anonkun | my server supports PLAIN |
| 14:23.53 | anonkun | This settings works fine in thunderbird |
| 14:23.54 | rdieter_work | for *me*, using auth also requires encryption, is that enabled too? |
| 14:24.11 | anonkun | I tried using the wizard, that didnt work |
| 14:24.15 | anonkun | Im using TLS with PLAIN |
| 14:24.21 | anonkun | Tried other settings too |
| 14:24.29 | anonkun | tried autodetect oo |
| 14:24.31 | anonkun | too* |
| 14:24.42 | rdieter_work | anonkun: what specific settings is thunderbird using? |
| 14:25.04 | rdieter_work | what encryption, and port? (hint: configure kmail to use the same) |
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| 14:25.37 | anonkun | cross checking |
| 14:25.59 | rdieter_work | if all else fails, then just use thunderbird :-/ |
| 14:26.18 | anonkun | Well yeah, but it breaks the whole kde experience...its GTK and stuff |
| 14:26.28 | anonkun | if I wanted that then i'd just stick to gtk :P |
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| 14:28.24 | BluesKaj | aha, a purist, but t-bird works for me since kmail is such pita |
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| 14:29.26 | BluesKaj | a little gtk doesn't hurt , especially when it works seamlessly |
| 14:30.48 | anonkun | hehe |
| 14:31.00 | anonkun | I switched to KDE because I got tired of having to fetch everything on GTK |
| 14:31.05 | anonkun | kde has everyhing out of the box |
| 14:31.10 | anonkun | sadly half of it is broken :P |
| 14:31.21 | BluesKaj | xcept for an easy email setup |
| 14:32.10 | BluesKaj | kmail before kde4 was terrific , they ruined it with the pim/akonadi/database |
| 14:32.19 | anonkun | ah |
| 14:32.37 | anonkun | is that why people to me to change akonadi server to false in the config? |
| 14:33.09 | anonkun | Well its all cool |
| 14:33.12 | anonkun | as far as they fix it |
| 14:33.13 | BluesKaj | no need to use the config , just don't enable it in the gui |
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| 14:38.12 | anonkun | well i'm sticking to thunderbird |
| 14:38.24 | anonkun | kmail is horrible :P |
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| 14:40.30 | BluesKaj | kmail is great if you can get it to work for users on the job who need a large email database etc, home users don't need the complications that kmail comes with. |
| 14:40.43 | FliPPeh | super tiny nitpicky problem that maybe someone here can help me with |
| 14:40.48 | FliPPeh | http://i.imgur.com/lhPD57e.png |
| 14:40.56 | FliPPeh | How can I fix firefox's symbol being wrong? |
| 14:41.14 | FliPPeh | The icon displays fine in the program list and title bar |
| 14:41.22 | FliPPeh | Just the taskbar that's wrong |
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| 14:45.29 | rdieter_work | FliPPeh: app's specify their own icon in that case (in general) => firefox bug |
| 14:46.16 | rdieter_work | though in my experience, I've never seen the titlebar and taskmanger icons differ before |
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| 14:46.58 | FliPPeh | rdieter_work: Yeah, that's what's confusing me, in Xfce that doesn't happen |
| 14:47.43 | FliPPeh | The .desktop file points to a valid icon |
| 14:48.04 | rdieter_work | .desktop file icon is irrelevant in this case |
| 14:48.22 | rdieter_work | (that's only for what's shown in kickoff menu) |
| 14:48.26 | FliPPeh | mhh |
| 14:49.06 | rdieter_work | are you using the default plasma taskmanager? |
| 14:49.13 | FliPPeh | xprop lists the icons as well |
| 14:49.16 | FliPPeh | yep |
| 14:49.32 | FliPPeh | But it happened with the icon-only widget as well |
| 14:49.52 | rdieter_work | ok, the xprop one is what is supposed to get used here, if I recall correctly |
| 14:50.00 | rdieter_work | wierd |
| 14:50.09 | FliPPeh | I'll try firefox-not-nightly real fast |
| 14:50.35 | FliPPeh | That one displays the nightly symbol in the title bar and the proper FF logo in the task bar |
| 14:50.39 | FliPPeh | fun |
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| 14:51.32 | FliPPeh | wait no, that was me messing up, the non-nightly works fine |
| 14:51.45 | FliPPeh | Yeah, may be a nightly bug and their fault |
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| 16:29.43 | FliPPeh | Right, I think I found a bug in the plasma compositor. Had it happen the first time yesterday and just now again where it would out of the blue break OpenGL applications or anything else requiring the GPU |
| 16:29.54 | FliPPeh | Specifically, mpv will segfault, games will segfault |
| 16:30.00 | FliPPeh | Disabling the compositor fixes it |
| 16:30.26 | FliPPeh | 5.5.4 |
| 16:30.46 | FliPPeh | No idea how to go about finding out WHY it happens though |
| 16:31.20 | FliPPeh | "mpv/vo[16690]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f7d199ee550 sp 00007f7d29ad63c0 error 6 in libnvidia-glcore.so.361.18[7f7d188a5000+12fd000]" |
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| 16:31.57 | BlaXpirit | FliPPeh, do you have intel skylake cpu? |
| 16:32.04 | FliPPeh | BlaXpirit: Sandy Bridge |
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| 16:32.05 | BlaXpirit | do you use arch linux? |
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| 16:32.08 | FliPPeh | yes |
| 16:32.16 | BlaXpirit | sandy bridge eh? then probably disregard me. |
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| 16:32.23 | FliPPeh | i5 2500k to be precise |
| 16:33.02 | BlaXpirit | FliPPeh, skylake+nvidia has segfault problems, related to glibc --enable-lock-elision . but this probably doesn't apply here |
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| 16:33.24 | FliPPeh | Nah, it also only happens in plasma as far as I can tell |
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| 16:34.01 | BlaXpirit | FliPPeh, you must understand that this could just be some graphics feature that only plasma uses while not being plasma's bug |
| 16:34.06 | FliPPeh | If I turn the compositor off, it works, when I turn it back on it begins to fail again, so it's fairly isolated |
| 16:35.57 | BlaXpirit | FliPPeh, also you're using beta driver..... did this only happen recently? |
| 16:36.12 | FliPPeh | Well I found out that since using KDE again, my dmesg mentions nvidia-modeset a couple of times, freeing and allocating my GPU for a few milliseconds |
| 16:36.32 | johnfg | Is there a way to have krfb started, so available after a reboot, and via remote access? |
| 16:36.37 | johnfg | I added it to the startup applications, but after a reboot, and not logged into the console, it's not available remotely. |
| 16:36.52 | FliPPeh | BlaXpirit: Couldn't tell, I've been using the beta driver for a few weeks now because it fixes steam crashing randomly, and I've only restarted using KDE recently |
| 16:37.01 | BlaXpirit | johnfg, kde startup is associated with your graphical session |
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| 16:38.07 | BlaXpirit | FliPPeh, well if you want to get any useful info on this, first thing i'd try would be a different driver version. nvidia-352 preferably which doesnt crash steam, or nvidia (358) |
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| 16:38.48 | BlaXpirit | johnfg, if you add something to kde startup, naturally if you don't log into a graphical environment ,that app doesn't start |
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| 16:40.28 | BlaXpirit | johnfg, the only thing you could do is auto-login into your account after boot..... |
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| 16:46.15 | johnfg | BlaXpirit: how does one auto-login into their account after boot? |
| 16:46.33 | BlaXpirit | johnfg, depends on login manager |
| 16:46.46 | BlaXpirit | KDM, SDDM can do it, LightDM might be able to do it |
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| 16:47.13 | johnfg | right now i'm using lightdm. sddm didn't seem able to find user information in ldap via pam. |
| 16:47.46 | BlaXpirit | johnfg, i can't help with lightdm, go to its settings and set up auto login. note that this is very insecure |
| 16:48.33 | BlaXpirit | i've been using autologin for a long time, but insecure at least if someone gets physical access to your computer |
| 16:48.42 | BlaXpirit | should be secure otherwise |
| 16:49.59 | johnfg | BlaXpirit: ok. btw...have you any experience in getting sddm to work with ldap? |
| 16:50.04 | BlaXpirit | no |
| 16:50.27 | johnfg | I don't have my regular user info in /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow. It's securely held in openldap. |
| 16:51.02 | BlaXpirit | johnfg, expect problems with autologin and ldap |
| 16:51.21 | BlaXpirit | johnfg, this seems like not a good idea. maybe look for alternative applications for remote acces |
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| 16:52.38 | BlaXpirit | because from what I see "krfb" requires to be run from a graphical user session |
| 16:54.17 | johnfg | BlaXpirit: will do, thanks |
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| 16:56.59 | poisond | johnfg: sddm uses pam, /etc/pam.d/sddm* for arch |
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| 16:57.28 | poisond | I believe everything uses pam theese days ^^ |
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| 16:58.39 | poisond | johnfg: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LDAP_authentication |
| 17:00.23 | johnfg | poisond: Right about pam being used by everything. |
| 17:01.25 | johnfg | I used ldap for storing all my regular user info on a number of different machines and distros. sddm seems to be the only one that isn't configured or written to easily integrate with ldap. |
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| 17:03.16 | poisond | johnfg: since it uses ldap it's the same as for everything else. Change the pam config for sddm |
| 17:03.22 | poisond | bleh |
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| 17:03.34 | poisond | sorry, little sleep. uses pam I meantz |
| 17:04.27 | johnfg | poisond: no worries about the misstatement. The thing is, pam is configured correctly on the pam side, for gentoo in /etc/pam.d/system-auth. |
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| 17:04.58 | poisond | johnfg: you probably have /etc/pam.d/sddm also? |
| 17:05.10 | johnfg | I'll look again at the config for sddm. |
| 17:05.10 | poisond | might not include system-auth |
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| 17:06.58 | johnfg | poisond: good call, it doesn't have system-auth. Do you know what would be the correct way to add system-auth to /etc/pam.d/sddm? |
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| 17:08.14 | poisond | johnfg: not off the top of my head, I don't mess with pam a lot and I wouldn't want to give you security critical advice on that. but the arch wiki definately has good information on it ;) |
| 17:09.00 | poisond | even if you're not using arch, best documentation around ;) |
| 17:09.02 | johnfg | poisond: I'm not using arch right now, but used it in a vm and liked it pretty well. I'll have to give it another go. Is it your favorite? |
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| 17:10.54 | poisond | johnfg: yeah, used slackware before and arch was the only worthy successor. Best packaging system I found and mostly vanilla packages except for bugfix patches |
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| 17:11.19 | johnfg | and your DE is plasma 5? |
| 17:11.40 | poisond | yes, since kde4 got dropped from arch. |
| 17:12.12 | poisond | still got plenty of crashes and akonadi got worse |
| 17:13.27 | johnfg | On gentoo, i'm liking plasma 5 a lot, but didn't use kde4. |
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| 17:14.31 | BlaXpirit | johnfg, well kde 4 is even better |
| 17:14.46 | poisond | and kde3 was even better |
| 17:14.47 | poisond | sorry ^^ |
| 17:14.53 | poisond | runs for cover |
| 17:15.06 | BlaXpirit | well it probably was, but i wasn't there at the time |
| 17:15.39 | johnfg | That's how I felt about gnome3. And I did use kde (don't remember the number) with fedora, for quite a long time. |
| 17:16.10 | johnfg | fwiw, I sure like plasma5 much better than gnome3. |
| 17:16.34 | poisond | :o) |
| 17:17.05 | poisond | gnome 1 was rather good |
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| 17:17.16 | poisond | for it's time ... |
| 17:17.23 | poisond | *its |
| 17:18.41 | poisond | I'd use lxqt but I depend on kde anyway and it seems like you can't get around using akonadi in that case anyway |
| 17:18.46 | poisond | *kde apps |
| 17:18.55 | poisond | wow, I really should get some sleep ^^ |
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| 17:20.53 | johnfg | poisond: go get some rest! :-) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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| 17:37.47 | FliPPeh | Is there any benefit to using OpenGL 3.1 rather than OpenGL 2.0 as compositor backend? |
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| 18:03.01 | anonkun | finally got kmail to work |
| 18:03.02 | anonkun | phew |
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| 18:08.29 | FliPPeh | Hmm, how can I persuade Konsole to nicely render fonts? The rest of KDE is doing it beautifully, but Konsole doesn't play by the rules |
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| 18:17.13 | Gamayun | FliPPeh: Is this regardless of which font you choose for the profile? |
| 18:19.46 | FliPPeh | Gamayun: Pretty much. It doesn't look *horrible*, but it appears like it defaults to no hinting at least |
| 18:22.53 | Gamayun | Does ticking 'Smooth fonts' do anything? |
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| 18:24.59 | Gamayun | Other than that, I'm not sure what to suggest. Though there is a fix for Firefox that involves blocking bitmap fonts from being used. Doubt that applies here though. |
| 18:26.20 | BlaXpirit | FliPPeh, > State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions |
| 18:26.45 | BlaXpirit | konsole --version would be most helpful |
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| 18:32.31 | FliPPeh | Actually, I'm going to go ahead and blame my font on that one |
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| 22:20.02 | Crendgrim | hi, did the "Wobbly Windows" effect get removed from KWin? |
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| 22:21.37 | bootkiller | Crendgrim: No, it's still there |
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| 22:21.59 | Crendgrim | oh, nevermind, my compositor is broken. And that made the effect hidden. |
| 22:22.11 | Crendgrim | Same result, different cause. Time to investigate. |
| 22:26.12 | Crendgrim | Something caused it to reset to XRender. Anyway, my windows are wobbly again \o/ |
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| 23:28.22 | CrowX- | the hardware monitor widget isn't showing ram consumption correctly |
| 23:28.32 | CrowX- | i.e. its data is different than top's data |
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| 23:28.45 | CrowX- | and this happened after I added additional 4gb ram |
| 23:28.47 | CrowX- | why? |
| 23:30.50 | bootkiller | CrowX-: I think it's disk cache, hwmon doesn't show it. |
| 23:31.03 | CrowX- | bootkiller, solution? |
| 23:33.16 | bootkiller | CrowX-: I you really want it to disk cache you can add a new tab and add the apropiate sensor for it. The standard tab only reads date from mem/physical/application |
| 23:34.24 | CrowX- | bootkiller, I'm not sure what you mean |
| 23:34.39 | CrowX- | my physical memory is shown wrong |
| 23:34.53 | CrowX- | i.e. it shows less ram consumed than it actually is |
| 23:36.58 | bootkiller | CrowX-: Application consuption has priority over disk cache, it will be freed if an application needs it. Hwmon doesn't disk cache by default, Kinfocenter and do however. |
| 23:37.42 | CrowX- | bootkiller, what do you mean by 'disk cache'? virtual/swap memory? |
| 23:40.15 | bootkiller | CrowX-: No, it isn't swap nor virtual memory. |
| 23:40.24 | CrowX- | what is it |
| 23:40.55 | bootkiller | CrowX-: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 23:46.18 | CrowX- | bootkiller, thanks |
| 23:46.32 | bootkiller | CrowX-: np |
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| 23:58.15 | King_DuckZ | hello, I just wanted to remind you all about my personal project here https://bitbucket.org/King_DuckZ/dindexer and tell that if anybody fancies helping me writing the GUI that would make me really happy since I suck at doing that :) |
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| 23:58.53 | valorie | King_DuckZ: any reason you have it on bitbucket instead of KDE git? |
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| 23:59.08 | King_DuckZ | either way, please try it and give me feedback, thanks in advance if you do :) |
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| 23:59.34 | valorie | you could ask the VDG for help, although having your project on KDE infra would certainly make it easier |
| 23:59.37 | King_DuckZ | valorie: that's where I usually put my projects, but it can be cloned anywhere |
| 23:59.50 | valorie | that isn't the point |
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