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| 04:12.47 | yates | i am not seeing icons for "background" programs anywhere in my system tray, even under "show hidden icons". namely, ktorrent isn't showing up, yet ps -AL | grep ktorrent shows it's running. |
| 04:13.11 | yates | this is a f23 x86_64 system |
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| 04:15.31 | yates | any thoughts how to see such icons? |
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| 04:15.55 | thiago | it's a per-application setting |
| 04:16.03 | thiago | if it doesn't create a system tray icon, you won't see one |
| 04:16.19 | yates | ktorrent doesn't create an icon? |
| 04:16.25 | thiago | apparently it didn't |
| 04:16.37 | yates | it has in the past |
| 04:16.43 | yates | kde4? |
| 04:16.53 | thiago | are you running a kde4 ktorrent in plasma 5? |
| 04:17.07 | yates | yes |
| 04:17.23 | thiago | it's possible that ktorrent is trying to use the old XEmbed protocol, which plasma 5 no longer supports |
| 04:17.34 | thiago | the best solution is to upgrade ktorrent to a version that supports SNI |
| 04:17.52 | thiago | if that is not possible, you can try installing sni-qt or xembedsniproxy |
| 04:18.34 | yates | right. there isn't a ktorrent 5.x available in f23, it appears... |
| 04:19.20 | yates | sni-qt is already installed, both x86_64 and i686 versions |
| 04:19.53 | yates | they have been since last reboot, still no icons. |
| 04:20.58 | yates | any thoughts, thiago |
| 04:20.59 | yates | ? |
| 04:21.19 | yates | have i hosed something somewhere that this is happening? |
| 04:22.11 | yates | is "tabbed" equivalent to "xembedsniproxy"? |
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| 04:22.44 | yates | there is no package named explicitly xembedsniproxy |
| 04:22.51 | yates | in f23 or rpmfusion |
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| 04:25.17 | yates | why didn't the kde developers, in all their wisdom, think that some apps may still be using the old protocol and support both at least temporarily? |
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| 04:25.32 | thiago | because the old protocol has been deprecated for years |
| 04:25.43 | thiago | no KDE application (even KDE 4 ones) is using it |
| 04:25.47 | thiago | so I doubt that this is the issue |
| 04:25.55 | yates | oh. |
| 04:26.02 | thiago | the most likely scenario is that ktorrent simply did not create an icon |
| 04:26.21 | yates | so ktorrent has a bug? |
| 04:26.25 | thiago | most likely |
| 04:26.51 | yates | is there somewhere i could get an rpm for ktorrent 5.x? |
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| 04:27.32 | yates | or has something replaced ktorrent? |
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| 04:28.32 | yates | it looks like only from source |
| 04:28.45 | yates | http://shaforostoff.blogspot.com/2015/11/ktorrent-kf5-port.html |
| 04:28.52 | thiago | right |
| 04:28.59 | thiago | that's what it looks like from the source code |
| 04:29.05 | thiago | it's being ported, but it has no KF5 release yet |
| 04:29.50 | yates | i'll do without an icon for now... |
| 04:30.01 | yates | not worth messing with for an icon. |
| 04:30.16 | yates | thanks for the information, thiago. |
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| 04:44.42 | DarinMiller | yates, something is strange. ktorrent icon shows up on Kubuntu 16.04, Plasam 5.5.4, ktorrent v. 4.3.1. What is you plasma version? |
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| 04:55.37 | yates | DarinMiller: how do i find out? |
| 04:56.04 | DarinMiller | kinfocenter |
| 04:56.09 | yates | also, do you have the sni-qt package installed? |
| 04:56.40 | DarinMiller | yes, sni-qt is installed. |
| 04:57.13 | yates | yes, i'm running 5.5.4 according to kinfocenter |
| 04:57.49 | yates | and 4.3.1 of ktorrent |
| 04:58.08 | DarinMiller | Hmmmj, must be a config thing as it's working here, but I appogize as I have no idea how. It was automatic. |
| 04:58.12 | yates | perhaps it's a configuration inside ktorrent? |
| 04:58.18 | yates | yeah. |
| 04:58.46 | DarinMiller | Did you check your sys tray settings while ktorrent was running? |
| 04:59.26 | yates | yes |
| 04:59.37 | yates | you mean did i look in my system tray? yes, i did |
| 04:59.57 | DarinMiller | When ktorrent is running, sys tray setting shows up under the entries list. From there I can toggle visibility. |
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| 05:00.26 | DarinMiller | No, right click on the triangle and select system settings. |
| 05:00.42 | DarinMiller | System Tray Settings^ |
| 05:01.25 | DarinMiller | My sys tray settings triangle/icon is next to my clock.... |
| 05:01.39 | yates | yes, i see it. looking... |
| 05:02.17 | DarinMiller | Left hand side of the setting menu, select the Entries icon... |
| 05:02.29 | yates | ktorrent is running but not in the entries window.. |
| 05:04.17 | DarinMiller | My entries list is not sorted. Also, there is a checkbox at the top that says Always show all entries... |
| 05:05.05 | yates | http://www.digitalsignallabs.com/systray.png |
| 05:05.24 | DarinMiller | My list is much longer... |
| 05:05.46 | DarinMiller | What if you check the box at the top? |
| 05:06.06 | yates | i get a bunch of icons shown separately, but still not ktorrent |
| 05:08.09 | DarinMiller | Google search for people experiencing same issue said remove system tray then re-add it. |
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| 05:09.12 | yates | how do you delete it? |
| 05:09.18 | yates | remove it? |
| 05:10.20 | DarinMiller | Right click on panel and unlock widgets if it is locked. Then click on hamburger/settings icon next to clock. |
| 05:10.21 | yates | not right click on the triangle, panel options, remove panel, is it? |
| 05:11.01 | DarinMiller | No need to remove the entire panel |
| 05:13.05 | yates | damn kde |
| 05:13.19 | DarinMiller | When the panel is in edit mode, hover over the sys tray. mouse pointer become a x-hair and drag it off the panel |
| 05:13.42 | yates | no, i've got it deleted, now i'm trying to add it back in |
| 05:13.53 | DarinMiller | then return to edit mode and add widget |
| 05:14.08 | DarinMiller | type sys in filter box |
| 05:14.12 | yates | the Add Widgets brings up a panel on the left with the widgets, but when i move my mouse over toward it it disappears. |
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| 05:14.34 | DarinMiller | drag sys tray widget onto panel |
| 05:14.41 | yates | i can't |
| 05:14.48 | yates | it disappears when i move my mouse! |
| 05:15.07 | DarinMiller | ensure to disable auto hide |
| 05:15.31 | DarinMiller | panel edit mode : more settings button |
| 05:15.52 | yates | yeah, it's not in autohide |
| 05:17.31 | yates | impossible. |
| 05:17.52 | yates | the widgets panel disappears every time i move my mouse. what bullshit. |
| 05:18.19 | DarinMiller | Hmmm, I have the opposite problem. Drag and drop worked fine but I can remove the 2nd one... |
| 05:19.06 | DarinMiller | Use the add widgets button from the panel menu. The desktop one is buggy at the moment. |
| 05:19.20 | yates | that's what i was using |
| 05:20.27 | DarinMiller | weird, mine is working fine from the panel settings. from the console try: killall plasmashell && plasmashell & |
| 05:20.57 | yates | as root? |
| 05:21.03 | DarinMiller | no |
| 05:22.42 | yates | i give up. |
| 05:22.45 | yates | taking too much time. |
| 05:22.48 | DarinMiller | the above commend fixed my desktop hamburger |
| 05:24.37 | DarinMiller | try killing the panel (right click on it and panel options and remove panel) |
| 05:24.49 | DarinMiller | then right click on desktop to add panel |
| 05:25.16 | DarinMiller | Add default panel |
| 05:25.50 | yates | sorry, i'm going to bed. |
| 05:26.04 | yates | thanks for your help, DarinMiller |
| 05:26.59 | DarinMiller | np |
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| 07:53.44 | vincent42 | where does baloo store its db ? |
| 07:54.16 | vincent42 | I disabled it but I still have lots of results from its initial file scan attempt |
| 07:54.24 | vincent42 | want to get rid of them |
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| 07:58.27 | thiago | ~/.local/share/baloo |
| 07:58.47 | vincent42 | thanks ! |
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| 07:59.47 | vincent42 | I don't know why, when disabling baloo, it then spawn a process _cleaner which sole purpose seems to be to delete all this mess, but it takes forever and uses all the disk bandwidth it can |
| 07:59.53 | vincent42 | rm -rf seems more efficient |
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| 08:12.33 | jsamyth | Because Baloo stores its index in mysql maybe? |
| 08:13.40 | vincent42 | mysql ? not sqlite |
| 08:13.42 | vincent42 | ? |
| 08:14.01 | rdieter | if I recall, baloo stores indexing data in extended attributes of the files it indexes |
| 08:14.28 | vincent42 | like some kind of parasite ? |
| 08:15.08 | vincent42 | I surely hope it doesn't do that |
| 08:15.21 | rdieter | vincent42: that is why the cleaner is needed |
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| 08:16.10 | jsamyth | Oh, yeah, I got mixed up with Akonodi. |
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| 08:17.08 | rdieter | vincent42: though now I'm second guessing myself, reading https://community.kde.org/Baloo/Architecture#Files (though that's a bit light on implementation details) |
| 08:18.27 | vincent42 | they talk about sqlite and xiapian |
| 08:18.41 | rdieter | http://vhanda.in/blog/2015/03/the-semantic-desktop-is-dead/ mentions "File tags, ratings and comments are stored in the file system as extended attributes." |
| 08:19.01 | rdieter | so looks like I was wrong |
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| 08:22.35 | vincent42 | yeah I think that would really be too intrusive to store that in the files' metadat a theemselves, furthermore, this would not help search / indexing since it would still be located at the file and not in some centralized place (like a db) |
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| 08:27.01 | jsamyth | I saw a talk given by Handa, and he really seems to have his shit together. I only wish he had more time to work on Baloo because its the first indexing system that actually works fast. |
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| 08:28.23 | vincent42 | I'm on kubnutu 14.04 so maybe it's a bit old, but it didn't seem too fast :/ |
| 08:28.46 | vincent42 | problem is that it's activated by default and kick in immediately |
| 08:29.53 | jsamyth | It might be an old version. The newer version uses a different indexing engine and its amazingly fast. And yes it starts up right away, but it is "niceed" to not bother you. |
| 08:30.07 | vincent42 | when you have a home directory already populated with lots of file that's really annoying |
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| 08:30.21 | vincent42 | on first rtun it should first ask you which directory you want to index |
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| 08:31.19 | jsamyth | It happens once. It never is a bother if you install and turn on Baloo before you dump a tone of files on your home directory. |
| 08:31.57 | vincent42 | I guess I have to try it on something more up to date |
| 08:32.27 | jsamyth | There are settings, but this version they have chosen to make them very sparce. They learned a hard lesson with neopmuk, where it was so damn intrusive that everybody uninstalled it. |
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| 08:34.20 | jsamyth | See https://community.kde.org/Baloo/Configuration |
| 08:35.42 | jsamyth | My problem with baloo righ now is I want to index a whole mess of source code, but it will only index plain text files if their extension is .txt. Apparently some hack-ish temporary fix never got removed. |
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| 08:42.48 | jsamyth | rdieter: Here is where Vanda explains the indexing system being used today is LMDB http://vhanda.in/blog/2015/10/baloo-5-15/ |
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| 10:13.30 | excalibr | My issue with laptop audio not switching back to internal speaker when lineout/headphone is plugged out solved on its own after the recent pulseaudio update |
| 10:14.00 | excalibr | It's not issue with plasma as it turns out |
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| 10:36.20 | vincent42 | hi al, when doing alt-f2 the search dialog appear, it's possible to configure into wht it's searched , what plugin shoud I disable to not see opened applications in the result ? |
| 10:36.38 | vincent42 | typcally I use this to open a new application instance, but it first show me already opened instances |
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| 10:37.22 | vincent42 | I tried to disable the "activities" plugin |
| 10:38.07 | BlaXpirit | vincent42, "windows" plugin |
| 10:38.17 | vincent42 | ah thanks |
| 10:38.45 | vincent42 | actually this could be useful, but maybe in another search dialog , could there be two different ones with two settings ? |
| 10:39.23 | BlaXpirit | vincent42, no |
| 10:39.47 | BlaXpirit | vincent42, i recommend you to use application menu to open applications |
| 10:39.55 | vincent42 | yes true |
| 10:40.01 | BlaXpirit | alt+f1 or.. |
| 10:40.02 | vincent42 | actually I used to do that |
| 10:40.32 | vincent42 | but the shortcut disappeared during an upgrade |
| 10:40.39 | vincent42 | I'll try to put it back |
| 10:41.13 | hateball | isnt there like an app drawer plasmoid as well, maybe it can be hotkeyed |
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| 10:44.06 | vincent42 | where is defined the hotkey for the K menu ? |
| 10:44.15 | BlaXpirit | vincent42, in its settings |
| 10:44.46 | vincent42 | alright |
| 10:45.39 | vincent42 | since I upgraded the os but kept my home, my KDE menus are a bit weird , is there a way to reset the menus, but still keeping other options ? |
| 10:45.48 | BlaXpirit | maybe |
| 10:45.49 | vincent42 | i.e. I don't want to delete .kde |
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| 10:46.07 | BlaXpirit | vincent42, what versions are you on now? |
| 10:46.33 | vincent42 | 4.13 in kubuntu 14.04 |
| 10:46.40 | vincent42 | coming from kubuntu 12.04 |
| 10:46.46 | BlaXpirit | :| :| :| :| :| |
| 10:46.57 | vincent42 | but was already messed up then actually |
| 10:47.07 | vincent42 | my home has a longer history than that :) |
| 10:48.04 | vincent42 | why :| ? |
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| 12:27.28 | sebsebseb | what's a good distro to virtual machine for a quick try of plasma 5? |
| 12:27.53 | hateball | any that comes with plasma 5 default? |
| 12:28.08 | hateball | Kubuntu, for instance |
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| 13:10.57 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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| 13:25.29 | sobczyk | to stdout I mean |
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| 13:56.03 | Achillion | Any way to make Bluetooth autoconnect to my phone? When I turn BT on, on the phone, I need to press connect either in KDE or on the phone to make the connection. With other devices (bt speakers), my phone automatically connects when they're in range. I suppose that's a design feature of the speakers? |
| 13:56.20 | Achillion | Is it possible to make the KDE BT service automatically request a connection when my phone is in range? |
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| 13:58.32 | Achillion | If that's not possible, maybe I can write a connection script and have it run on keypress (connect to phone if in range) |
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| 14:02.20 | Achillion | well, that was easy |
| 14:02.32 | Achillion | bluetoothctl <<< "connect DEVADDRESS" |
| 14:02.35 | Achillion | and that's it |
| 14:03.52 | Achillion | oh my |
| 14:04.03 | Achillion | I just discovered "bluetooth-player" |
| 14:04.09 | Achillion | This is wonderful. |
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| 15:51.49 | Yan881 | Hi guys! I'm using KDE Plasma 5.5 on Archlinux. Just used "rm ~/.config/akonadi*" to clean up. As a result KMail no longer displays my "Local Folders". Instead I see "akonadi_maildir_resource_0" containing only empty folders. |
| 15:53.07 | Yan881 | My question: The mail data seems to be stored in "~/.local/share/akonadi_maildir_resource_0". What is the easiest way to recover the mails from there? |
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| 15:53.57 | Yan881 | (I don't see what option to choose in KMail's import wizard to import the mail from these database files.) |
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| 15:55.22 | Achillion | Yan881: I would try copying akonadi_maildir_resource_0 somewhere, just to be safe, then creating a new mail resource (local folder type), see what it creates under ~/.local/share/akonadi*, and put (again, copy, just to be sure) the old database files into the new resource storage location. |
| 15:55.36 | Achillion | No idea if that will work, but it shouldn't take long to try. |
| 15:55.41 | rdieter | Yan881: if you truly want to "clean" akonadi (for some definition of clean), then remove ~/.local/share/akonadi too |
| 15:55.56 | Achillion | Isn't that where the mail is actually stored though, rdieter? |
| 15:56.03 | Achillion | I think he's trying to restore the actual messages. |
| 15:56.09 | rdieter | Achillion: yes and no. akonadi is simply a cache |
| 15:56.14 | Achillion | right |
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| 15:56.24 | xxavi | hi |
| 15:56.42 | rdieter | my point is: deleting random stuff will often cause more problems if you're not very careful about it (best simply not to do it) |
| 15:56.48 | xxavi | PNM preview images don't work with dolphin file browser ? |
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| 15:57.37 | Achillion | I usually move stuff, check that everything's still working for a couple of days and delete if nothing is broken, but I usually just end up with backed up stuff I wanted to clean up because I never take that last delete step :) |
| 15:58.29 | Yan881 | Thank rdieter and thanks Achillion, I'll try this out. |
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| 16:02.17 | Yan881 | It worked. Thanks again, that was a quick solution. |
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| 16:47.28 | Agonizer | Hi guys |
| 16:47.58 | Agonizer | i have and issue with kubuntu 15.10, KAOS with the ipv4 manually |
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| 16:48.31 | Agonizer | in graphical mode i cant set up the ip for a wired connection |
| 16:48.38 | Agonizer | it keeping saying this |
| 16:49.09 | Agonizer | ipv4.addresses: this property cannot be empty for method=manual |
| 16:49.27 | Agonizer | and never get the ip manually |
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| 18:43.21 | vincent42 | hi all, in kde 4.13, I'm trying to use the "highlight window" effect, but it seems rather broken : all windows become very translucide and get all merged together, we can't really make out which is which |
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| 19:50.00 | fairc | when I empty the trash in dolphin there are two annoying sounds, where can I configure these? |
| 19:51.00 | einar77 | fairc: settings -> configure notifications |
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| 19:53.49 | fairc | einar77: I already looked there, but I can't find anything relating to trash |
| 19:54.02 | fairc | einar77: can you be more specific? |
| 19:54.46 | fairc | unfortunately there is no search function in that KCM.... :-/ |
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| 20:00.30 | rdieter | brain0: does your distro include pam-kwallet to automatically open kwallets on login? If so, that could be it |
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| 20:05.38 | Pr0metheus | Does anyone use Calligra for real work, in his profession? |
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| 20:09.10 | fairc | einar77: ping |
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| 20:12.53 | samy____ | Hello folks! i installed kdeconnect on my system and phone but to activate it when i am running qdbus org.kde.kded /kded loadModule kdeconnect i get false :/ |
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| 20:13.44 | anonkun | hey guys, why do some fullscreen applications minimize when I switch virtual desktops? is there a way to fix this? |
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| 20:16.15 | gschanuel | hello |
| 20:17.14 | gschanuel | i'm using plasma 5.5 on archlinux. It's a fresh install. I just cant find how to tMy /etc/locale.conf have : LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 20:17.32 | gschanuel | sorry.. i just cant find out hot to change my locale setting for plasma |
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| 20:18.34 | fairc | gschanuel: try system settings -> regional settings -> formats |
| 20:18.52 | fairc | and then set Region |
| 20:18.57 | fairc | to your locale |
| 20:19.26 | gschanuel | huuum |
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| 20:21.12 | gschanuel | that's it :) |
| 20:21.15 | gschanuel | thanks fairc |
| 20:21.54 | fairc | gschanuel: np |
| 20:23.07 | fairc | when I empty the trash in dolphin there are two annoying sounds, where can I configure these? |
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| 20:24.00 | fairc | it must be somewhere in system settings -> notifications -> "something". but WHAT IS SOMETHING??? |
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| 21:26.09 | brain0 | rdieter: I don't think so |
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| 21:38.14 | axc1298 | fairc: lol those sounds are pretty annoying, i know. they always seem to be way too loud |
| 21:39.14 | Hairo | I disabled all system sounds, but can't remember how |
| 21:40.33 | Hairo | Tried to do it in a new laptop but couldn't find the option |
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| 21:47.45 | axc1298 | is there a way to pass the contents of the clipboard as a commandline argument if we use klipper? it would be nice to be able to do that, for example copy a video URL to clipboard, then run youtube-dl to download it without having to paste the url manually |
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| 22:02.31 | fairc | axc1298: and the sounds are also dull. Windows has this rustle at least... |
| 22:03.32 | fairc | axc1298: regarding klipper, it actually has this configuration for automatic actions. Did you try this? |
| 22:05.37 | BlaXpirit | axc1298, it's possible but it's kinda buggy |
| 22:07.12 | axc1298 | fairc: haven't tried it no |
| 22:07.12 | fairc | axc1298: http://i.imgur.com/rFOPi4l.png |
| 22:07.51 | BlaXpirit | so I tried to check out the clipboard widget's settings but nah, it decided to not show on the panel |
| 22:08.07 | BlaXpirit | regression from 2 months ago. oh well |
| 22:08.46 | axc1298 | hmm |
| 22:08.46 | axc1298 | thanks |
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| 23:29.57 | axc1298 | BlaXpirit: i found it's easier just to install xsel and use that |
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| 23:41.05 | Cube | hy guys, i've a problem with plasma5 (5.5.4). actually, I can login only as root user by command "startx". from sddm, with others user (new user too), plasmashell crashing with error "abort(6)"... any hint? |
| 23:41.53 | Cube | i've a gentoo distribution and the problem show up from the latest update |
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| 23:43.18 | gschanuel | hello again ^^ |
| 23:43.23 | Cube | :'( |
| 23:43.37 | gschanuel | another little problem here.. dropbox |
| 23:44.17 | gschanuel | there is no dropbox on system tray. I'm not runing it as service, just running "dropbox" from menu |
| 23:44.52 | gschanuel | i see that some folks said it was working with 3.14.7.. |
| 23:44.54 | gschanuel | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=209011 |
| 23:45.12 | gschanuel | yes.. i'm also on archlinux |
| 23:46.53 | demm | gschanuel: dropbox issue, 3.12.6 had the icon, 3.14.x lost it again, see the comments https://www.dropboxforum.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/205672126-Stable-Build-3-14-5 |
| 23:47.02 | demm | and https://www.dropboxforum.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/205739106-Stable-Build-3-14-7 |
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