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06:52.54anonkundoes kde 5.6 now come with wayland by default?
06:54.13bootkilleranonkun: It's been there since 5.4 but it's still experimental.
06:54.18einar77anonkun: plasma 5 (there's no KDE 5) has Wayland support, but it's still experimental
06:54.20AciD`what can you do when the energy saver turned off your screen, then when you come back and move the mouse/input keys on the keyboard, the screen stays in standby mode?
06:55.24anonkunThanks for the answers.
06:58.15bootkillerAciD`: That's probably a graphics driver crash/stall, depending on severity you may or may not be able to reboot the computer remotely with ssh.
06:59.00AciD`bootkiller > I can reboot by using ctrl+alt+f1
06:59.56hateballAciD`: iirc you're using nvidia? What driver?
07:01.40thiagoAciD`: or is it intel?
07:01.41bootkillerYes, I think I did that before, go to a console, login and reboot blindly. That's if the kernel ins't stalled aswell. If your distribution has it enabled you can also use magic keys. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses
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07:01.58thiagoAciD`: how do you know the mouse is even working?
07:02.16AciD`hateball > I have an amd card
07:02.48thiagoAciD`: or the keyboard. How do you know they're working?
07:03.05AciD`apparently my system uses the radeon driver (although the amdgpu one is installed also)
07:04.00AciD`thiago > well, for once I can ctrl+alt+F1 to access a tty, so I guess it's registering the keyboard
07:04.10thiagoand you see the terminal?
07:04.19AciD`secondly, the mouse is working since I can use it in the tty with the gpm package
07:04.33AciD`yes, I can access the tty withtout problem
07:04.44AciD`also
07:04.44thiagook, in a shell, please run this:
07:05.05thiagosleep 2s; DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output eDP1 --brightness 1
07:05.13thiagothen go back to X, within 2 seconds
07:05.29thiagoreplace eDP1 with the name of your monitor
07:05.40AciD`thiago > how can you check that name?
07:05.46hateballAciD`: My condolences
07:05.51thiagofrom that terminal, run DISPLAY=:0 xrandr
07:06.15AciD`hateball > :(
07:06.31AciD`thiago > I rebooted already (5 times today)
07:06.43AciD`but next time it'll ge black, I'll do that
07:07.00AciD`(that shoudl happen anytime soon if I stop using it for a few moment)
07:07.43thiagoif this works, would you send me an email letting me know, please? thiago@kde.org
07:07.44AciD`bootkiller > I'm not inputing blindly, the ttys are working great, only ctrl+alt+f7 is a black screen
07:07.51AciD`sure
07:08.02thiagoif it works for you, then you'll have just confirmed the same problem I have, but with a different card
07:08.09thiagowhich means it's not the driver's fault
07:08.10AciD`I'll ping you here first if you want
07:08.13thiagoit must be powerdevil
07:08.23thiagoyeah, it's just that it's 23:08 here and I'll be going to bed soon
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07:10.10bootkillerAciD`: That behaviour was was frequent for me with DRI3 enable before mesa 11.1.2 Plasma would stop awaking from power saving. Or plasmashell would be stalled and had to be rebooted.
07:10.20bootkiller*restarted
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07:11.10AciD`I'm using mesa 11.3
07:13.26AciD`ok, I think my monitor name is DisplayPort-0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/15272295/
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08:28.24YellowGT0Hey guys
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08:29.42YellowGT0Can anyone tell me how to shrink the desktop icons?
08:33.14hateballYellowGT0: Are you talking about a folder view plasmoid or... an app launcher?
08:33.21YellowGT0folder view
08:33.22hateballis this KDE 4.x or Plasma 5?
08:33.23YellowGT0Sorry
08:33.29YellowGT0Plasma 5
08:33.36hateballOk
08:33.49hateballI am on 4.x atm so I cant say. I'd guess in settings for the plasmoid however
08:34.10hateballthat's where it is in 4.x anyhows
08:35.14bootkillerYellowGT0: Right click on Desktop and got to Folder View Settings, under Icons you can change the size.
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08:38.37YellowGT0LoL I crashed
08:40.09bootkilleright click on Desktop and got to Folder View Settings, under Icons you can change the size.
08:41.00YellowGT0Oh, thank you bootkiller
08:44.32YellowGT0For Pidgin and Hexchat, when I try to minimize to the tray the program just vanishes
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08:49.30bootkillerYellowGT0: That might be dependent on distribution and Plasma version. Support for legacy systray icons was readded in Plasma 5.5, before tthat you need either sni-qt or libappindicator installed.
08:50.15bootkillerOr both installed, I don't remember exactly.
08:52.37YellowGT0So the newest version of Plasma has Systray icons?
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08:53.38bootkillerYellowGT0: Support for legacy icons, yes.
08:54.41YellowGT0Sorry, my linux knowledge is amateur at best and my KDE knowledge even less
08:55.22bootkillerHappy to help if I know how. :)
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08:56.09YellowGT0Ah, so I have version 5.4.2
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08:56.37YellowGT0Ohh 5.5 is beta
08:56.49YellowGT0Hmmm, do i wanna risk it heh
08:57.35bootkillerNo 5.5.5 is latest, 5.6 is currently in beta (5.5.95).
08:57.53lordievaderGood morning.
08:58.11bootkillerYour distribution may be a bit behind.
08:58.29YellowGT0Damn, im reading older blog post
08:58.30YellowGT0rofl
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09:02.02YellowGT0I'm on Xbuntu 15.10 bootkiller. I added the PPA so its updating now :D
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09:28.52YellowGT0YESSS
09:28.58YellowGT0Thank you bootkiller
09:29.10YellowGT0Fixed my icon issue. Thats been bothering the crap out of me lol
09:29.34bootkillerNo problem
09:30.27genstormicon issue is fixed in 5.5.5
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09:32.57YellowGT0https://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Windows-Web/Linux-Spotify-client-1-x-now-in-stable/m-p/1300404/highlight/false#M151493
09:33.17YellowGT0Spotify abandoned Linux on the day I made linux my primary os :(
09:34.55hateballI switched to google play a while back, from spotify
09:35.37hateballwhich has no desktop client at all, however :p
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09:37.48genstorm...and I just listen to soma.fm which, as a webradio, works everywhere :p
09:39.58hateballgoogle play is also just html5, is why I switched
09:40.13hateballI see someone made a "cross platform" desktop app for it, only runs on windows
09:41.17YellowGT0Does google play have the remote function?
09:41.29YellowGT0Where you can control your PC from your phone/
09:41.30YellowGT0?
09:42.06hateballnope, since it's just browser based
09:42.25hateballthat's why a frontend with mpris support could be nice I guess
09:42.42YellowGT0I figured if anyone could do it on the web it would be google
09:42.54hateballhttps://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=267590 ;f
09:42.57YellowGT0Yeah, thats the main reason I use Spotify :(
09:43.39YellowGT0My KDE is amazing since the last time I used it lol
09:44.21YellowGT0I can use my phone as a touchpad lol
09:44.39hateballoh there is https://tiliado.eu/nuvolaplayer/
09:45.14YellowGT0^Thats neat
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09:46.40YellowGT0Wow, KDE Connect I feel like it should have been Konnect. Anyway its going to have calling answering.
09:46.42YellowGT0Pretty sweet
09:47.27hateballI would enjoy if it could interface with pulseaudio to adjust volume
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10:17.56YellowGT0Okay, how do you change the resolution of the logon screen
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10:18.42YellowGT0I have 3 monitors, with the main being 2560x1080 and the two side ares just 1080
10:19.37YellowGT0If that makes sense
10:23.09lordievaderYellowGT0: You have the same problem that sddm(?) chooses the lowest resolution for all screens?
10:23.42YellowGT0I guess, my big screen says resolution isn't supported
10:23.58YellowGT0But that is what I suspect
10:24.29YellowGT0So, do the themes not work anymore in KDE5.5?
10:24.33lordievaderIf you find a solution please let me know. I have been meaning to look into it, but never have.
10:24.40YellowGT0It only themes my startbar
10:24.54YellowGT0Okay lordievader
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10:50.18qqzhow can I start ktimezoned manually from the command line?
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10:57.23qqzkioclient exec /usr/share/kde4/services/kded/ktimezoned.desktop
10:57.25qqzdoes not work
10:57.49qqzI need to start ktimezoned for xfce4 because xfce4-alarm needs it
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11:13.50anonkunAny of you guys headed to the CERN sprint? :)
11:18.07Tuxicki noticed splasmashell taking way too much cpu on kde5
11:18.55Tuxickalso found out removing system-tray fixes it, and to make it weirder: when deleting entire panel, including system-try, cpu usages stays low
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11:19.17Tuxickis this something only on ubuntu?
11:19.28Tuxickeither way there's a bug somewhere
11:21.06bootkillerTuxick: Here it's using 1-4% cpu Plasma 5.5.5
11:21.40Tuxickon a fresh install of what?
11:22.10leszekTuxick: which version of Plasma 5 ?
11:22.17Tuxicksince recreating panel i suspect it's an ubuntu thing
11:22.28bootkillerThis Arch install is about 6 months old, when I bought an SSD.
11:22.37Tuxickleszek: 5.4.2
11:22.54leszekTuxick: thats old. We are at 5.5 nowadays
11:23.01Tuxickuhm
11:23.16Tuxicksec, not quite sure what package to look at
11:23.38leszekplasmashell --version should tell you the version
11:23.58Tuxickok, got that right then
11:24.22Tuxickand i'm completely not used to kde commands taking that kind of params anymore :)
11:24.31hateballTuxick: 16.04 is out soon, you'll be on 5.5 then
11:24.42Tuxickoh ok, better not bother too much then
11:24.46leszekTuxick: there is also kubuntu backports ppa providing 5.5.4
11:24.49hateball(or do-release-upgrade -d) if you fancy beta-testing
11:24.57Tuxickwell i can wait, it's ok for now, just wondering
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11:25.30Tuxicki tried an ubuntu-lts upgrade to 15 just to see what kde was up to :)
11:26.01Tuxickupgrade failed miserable thanks to )$(*#@%(@# systemd
11:26.32hateballwell 14.04 to 15.10 isnt a supported upgrade path, so...
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11:26.53Tuxickoh yes, i wasn't surprised, but long time linux experience didn't help me either
11:27.00Tuxicknormally i get things fixed
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11:30.09Tuxickah 16.04 next month
11:30.45hateballyeah, so it's probably in good enough shape now that you can do-release-upgrade -d, but who knows
11:30.55hateballI havent upgraded any of my machines yet
11:31.31Tuxicki'm pretty much expecting that to work out yes
11:31.33hateballit is tempting to stay on 16.04 and use project neon + nvidia ppa
11:31.49hateballbuuuuuut, there are other shiny things in a distro as well, so
11:31.58Tuxickbtw, is there really such lack of themes for it so far?
11:32.32Tuxicki was a bit shocked by the lack of choice after installing 15.10
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11:33.35qqzI am getting complaints that it is not though I should just have started it.
11:38.17qqzkcminit ktimezoned returns 0
11:38.26qqzbut kcminit --list does not list it
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14:04.26muscaHello, is it possible to open the menu with the windows key?
14:06.37bootkillermusca: Yes, with ksuperkey https://github.com/hanschen/ksuperkey
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14:09.32muscawow, a daemon to send alt-F1
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14:11.29bootkillerWell, it works, and doesn't break other shortcuts that use meta key.
14:11.39hateballone could also just use krunner to launch things, like a normal person ;p
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14:15.56BlaXpirithateball, why?
14:16.06muscahateball: well spoken. In gnome, cinnamon and xfce the use of the menu key is "normal".
14:16.08BlaXpiritkrunner is bloat
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14:16.28BlaXpiritand it doesn't solve any problems
14:16.33BlaXpiritcan't be started with super key
14:17.02hateballheh, bloat
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14:23.09muscamaybe a design goal for KDE 6.0
14:23.49Tuxickmenu key?
14:23.59muscaAfter 25 years ... yes
14:25.20Tuxickwhat's "menu key" ?
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14:46.20BlaXpiritmusca, u mean Qt 6.0
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15:01.58AchillionWhen using slideshow as a wallpaper, is there any way to force the same wallpaper on both screens in a 2-monitor setup?
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15:16.08leszekAchillion: I think it is not possible as both are basically different activities
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15:16.15leszekfrom a technical point of view
15:17.55BlaXpiritleszek, different activities? that's nonsense
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15:21.08leszekBlaXpirit: why ? This is how multiple monitor setup works if you have extended desktop set
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15:21.23leszekit creates a new activity for that monirot
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15:21.25leszek*monitor
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15:28.17Achillionwait, krunner is bloat? Krunner is the most useful thin in kde/plasma.
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15:29.30AchillionI'd switch DEs and take krunner with me if I could.
15:29.47AchillionI suppose I can.
15:29.50AchillionBut I wont.
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16:54.17SteffstoffHi, can anyone help me with this issue? https://askubuntu.com/questions/740919/korganizer-davcal-calendar-disappeared
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17:03.01SteffstoffHi, can anyone help me with this issue? https://askubuntu.com/questions/740919/korganizer-davcal-calendar-disappeared
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17:32.03SteffstoffHi, can anyone help me with this KOrganizer issue? https://askubuntu.com/questions/740919/korganizer-davcal-calendar-disappeared
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18:22.27SteffstoffHi, can anyone help me with this KOrganizer issue? https://askubuntu.com/questions/740919/korganizer-davcal-calendar-disappeared
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18:29.46AciD`thiago > well, this did not work
18:29.58AciD`(the brigthness trick)
18:30.28AciD`it's not that the screen is only all black, it just goes to standby mode as soon as I switch to ctrl+alt+f7
18:31.08AciD`thiago > ah nevermind, I got a "Invalid mit-magic-cookie-1 keycan't open display :0" error message :x
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18:32.16capricorn_1new in this channel. Have a question about KDE plasma-desktop. Every once in a while it runs system load up to 99% which prevents me to click on command bar (?) to switch to different virtual screen. After about a minute it becomes normal again. I don't have any fancy stuff in the background, only rotate pictures every 15. I run KDE in two monitors. Is there a way to disable plasma-desktop? Any help appreciated.
18:34.21AciD`capricorn_1 > which kde version?
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18:37.01thiagobrightness of 0 puts the screen to sleep
18:37.22AciD`well
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18:38.05AciD`it said 'can't open display :0', so I checked if some of my application, namely firefoxd, dolphin and ktorrent were still open, they were not
18:38.24thiagono XAuth cookie
18:38.30AciD`it seems somehow my whole X session gets killed once it 'goes in standby mode'
18:38.46AciD`I just did a service sddm restart instead of rebooting, this time
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18:39.13thiagocould be
18:39.22thiagocheck with ps x if your X applications are still running
18:39.46AciD`I did a ps auxf|grep x, and saw nothing
18:39.53thiagops xf
18:40.07thiagodon't grep. I just want you to look at what's there. Are KDE applications still running?
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18:40.15thiagokdeinit, ksmserver, kwin, etc
18:40.18YellowGT0Anyone know how to make the taskbar icon only in Plasma 5.5?
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18:40.34AciD`well it's too late since I already restarted sddm :x
18:40.49AciD`YellowGT0 > there is a special widget for that
18:41.06rdieterYellowGT0: right click taskbar -> Alternatives -> select Icons only -> click "Switch"
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18:42.10capricorn_1KDE is the default in Kubuntu 14.04 . How do I find the version?
18:42.32YellowGT0Thank you!
18:42.56AciD`capricorn_1 > dpkg -l|grep kde
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18:43.48hendrixI have a hdmi display set in kscreen as "main display" and 2nd screen which uses vga. Still some programs start in main display, some in vga and some half and half on both. Is there a way I can make them all to start in main display?
18:44.23capricorn_1kde-base-artwork                                            4:4.13.0-0ubuntu1                          all          base artwork for the KDE Plasma Workspace
18:44.52SteffstoffHi, I've trouble with not appearing calendards under calendar management. Do know anybody this isse and could help? I try to fix this since some days and couldn't find a solution. :/
18:45.40AciD`capricorn_1 > 4.13.0 then!
18:45.58SteffstoffPerhabs it could help to delete the korganizer files. But I don't know which I should delete.
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18:48.24capricorn_1KDE version apport-kde  2.14.1-0ubuntu3.19
18:49.55capricorn_1AciD` there are over 30 lines I get with your command. You want me to give a specific line?
18:51.09u5eRcan someone here tell me ram usage for plasma 5.5 on fresh session start ?
18:52.37capricorn_1In addition I have another problem. Kate started to crash today every time I try to switch session. When I try to collect information to send bug report, it says "not enough information. This never happened since I started using KDE over 15+ years ago.
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18:54.34bootkilleru5eR: Last time I checked was using +/-800MB, though I have things on autostart. Samba, MariaDB, Teamviewer client.
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18:56.18hendrixto answer my own question: seems kwin's default "smart" window placement settings places window to 2nd display if there's already window open in main display. luckily that setting can be changed.
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18:57.21akikhendrix: i've had the same problem but managed to solve it
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18:57.48u5eRbootkiller: ty ... for me it going above 1.1 gig on empty session dnt know whats wrong
18:57.57akikhendrix: kcmshell4 kwinrules and created a new rule triplet there
18:58.13Rishcan anyone tell where shoudl i ask this question
18:58.13Rish?
18:59.16bootkilleru5eR: I had Xorg leaking memory on a radeon before mesa 11.1.2
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19:07.27hendrixakik: *nod* that smart placement doesn't work for me because it doesn't seem to detect what screens are actually on or off. and my screens aren't even on same view.
19:08.51YellowGT0The little icon on the right to show when you need an update, always has a red x. When I click it, the package manager says everything is up to date
19:08.54YellowGT0Any ideas?>
19:09.44akikhendrix: i collected the things so that i need not remember them :) https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2015/08/19/how-to-force-all-programs-to-open-on-your-primary-display-kde/
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19:13.11hendrixakik: I only tested now but seems some of them do.
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19:17.33SteffstoffHi, can anyone help me with this KOrganizer issue? https://askubuntu.com/questions/740919/korganizer-davcal-calendar-disappeared
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19:45.45ExcureoHas anybody seen "maximum number of X clients" errors with Plasma 5?  After upgrading applications to 5.12.2 and frameworks to 5.19.0 I get these errors after a day or two in X.  I'm not certain it's related to KDE, but preliminary evidence points possibly to plasmashell, and I'm just wondering if anybody besides me has seen it.
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19:46.06ExcureoIt's been rather difficult pinning down the source since it's a relatively slow leak.
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19:46.15devylhello there. i use kde 5.5.1 with qtcurve theme. i have customized the theme and no i have a problem with white background in lists... can someone maybe help? :)
19:46.31devyls/no/now
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20:15.12e-animahello. the theme selector in kde is acting pretty weird or i dont get it. for example i chose breeze dark, then i went over tw
20:15.16e-animaops
20:15.53e-animahello. the theme selector in kde is acting pretty weird or i dont get it. for example i chose breeze dark, then i went over to window settings and changed the style to Fusion. then everything went back to white.
20:17.51jsamythe-anima: Yeah, tis kinda buggy at this point.  Sometimes a log-out and log-back in sets it straight.  But other times you have to go back to same theme that worked, and then modify that, and save it as a new theme.
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20:18.07e-animaok i see :)
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20:21.28e-animajsamyth, i think the same is true for downloading themes with the UI. tried to download a theme "Velours" and others. they just never appear in the theme list
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20:22.58renn0xtk9Folks when i laucnh kde programm i see a lot of line e.g. for kate : 21:21:12.196  filetree/katefiletreemodel.cpp:1231 : BEGIN!
20:23.25jsamythe-anima: You are braver than I am.  I've not  tried to download an entire theme for a long time.  And last time I did it was a total mess.
20:23.41renn0xtk9it is very verbose, i remmeber that I deed activate an option so that it become so verbose ( in order to find out reason of a bug) but I can't remember what it is and how to deactivate it
20:23.41e-animayep dont do it :)
20:23.46renn0xtk9any idea?
20:23.55e-animai have no idea sorry
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20:29.35akikrenn0xtk9: was it the QT_LOGGING_RULES env. variable?
20:30.32renn0xtk9akik hmm right now when I do echo $QT_LOGGING_RULES I get an empty line
20:30.50akikrenn0xtk9: that was about kde 5 logging lots of stuff into syslg
20:30.53akiksyslog
20:31.17akikrenn0xtk9: QT_LOGGING_RULES="*.debug=false"
20:36.42renn0xtk9akik  don't understandt? should I juste define this as an environement varialbe?   I a m using KDE 4 by the way
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20:38.02akikrenn0xtk9: ok it doesn't apply to kde 4. in kde 5 you would put this in startkde: export QT_LOGGING_RULES="*.debug=false"
20:38.28renn0xtk9okay
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20:51.21renn0xtk9Actually it is indeed Qt programms that log so much, not only KDE
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21:42.26MarkRSis anyone developing apper these days?
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21:52.27e-animawow
21:52.52e-animachanged the primary monitor to another. now the bars are hoppingand blinking around the monitors.
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21:58.52porkslapchopanyone tried 5.6 yet?
21:59.12a17rit built, it started, both fine ;)
21:59.47porkslapchopnice
22:00.20porkslapchopcrazy how fast they are putting out these updates
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22:01.33porkslapchopa17r: you got a link for the plymouth theme? Or will it be added automatically when 5.6 is out?
22:01.47a17rsorry, I don't care about the plymouth theme
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22:06.44SchrostfutzHi, I used i3 in the past with dunst for notifications. With plasma, sometimes dunst starts up and takes over the notifications. Even if I kill it manualy, after a nofify-send it is respawned. I have no idea where this is configured. Do you have a hint?
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22:29.32|aaroncan someone tell me what the filename for the login screen widget is? i dont have it installed on my system somehow
22:30.44|aaroni guess widget is the wrong word. the "login screen" entry in system settings is what im looking for
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22:34.44|aaronnvm i found it
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22:57.45e-animaok after changing the monitor arrangements on the multimonitor page kde crashes....needed to plug out the monitor for it to start nromal again
22:58.48e-animasays frequency now is wrong...i did not change it
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