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00:19.40YellowGT0So Plasma crashed out, how would I relaunch that?
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01:45.35Egyptian[Home]hello - i got a strange problem - my laptop has a docking station and one day i took it off the docking station and didnt find the task bar so i added one. then when i docked it again .. i had TWO task bars. ..help?
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01:50.27jsamythEgyptian[Home]: why can't you delete one of them?
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04:57.40AciD`thiago -> fun fact : I disabled the screen saving thinking that it would prevent my screen to suspend (and then I'm not able to wake it up, remember?) ; it did not work. BUT, today I tried something else ; I switched to the first tty, then turned off the screen. Few hours later, I turn it back on, then switch to tty7, and my sessionlocker was there !
04:57.44AciD`yay \o/
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06:56.52AciD`side question : the battle.net icon shown in the taskbar in kde4 (when launching a blizzard game via playonlinux for instance) is now shown in the 'Wine system tray' window on kde5. Any fix for that behavior?
06:57.56thiagonever heard of "Wine system tray"
06:58.16thiagois WINE using SNI? Or is it using the old XEmbed protocol?
06:58.22thiagoPS: there's no KDE 5. You're running Plasma 5.
06:59.14AciD`it seems the problem has been spotted a year ago.....
06:59.15AciD`https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38409
06:59.31AciD`oh hey thiago
06:59.55AciD`have you seen my 'discovery' about the switch to a tty instead of staying on the X session?
07:00.28thiagoI did, but I have no further clues
07:00.35thiagotry installing xembedsniproxy for your current problem
07:04.00AciD`I'll try
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07:04.16AciD`looks like the package is named 'stalonetray' on debian-based distro
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07:09.28AciD`ok, it seems this feature (legacy icon) has been restored in 5.5 (cf. https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38409#c23)
07:09.32AciD`sorry for the noise
07:09.33AciD`:)
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09:01.58lordievaderGood morning.
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09:33.34e-animagood morning. lesson learned this night. dont play around with community themes in the theme manager :)
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10:16.50e-animais there any way to NOT make the windows on 2nd 3d and 4th monitor to drop under the bar i added at the bottom to show the active windows on that screen. it does not happen on the main screen btw.
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10:35.41Tujuyeah, so it goes. If i do a merge in kaddresbook with vcard dir resources, it only shows merge at screen, it doesn't do any merge in data.
10:36.18Tujui just merged three cards, and grep shows still three different files inside dir if i grep that lastname.
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11:17.38prillian5If I try to import an public-key of a friend, I only got a message in Kgpg: import fails: [GNUPG:] IMPORT_RES 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
11:17.48prillian5Any Idea how to check what's going wrong
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12:02.46BluesKajHey folks
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12:44.26SchrostfutzKDE takes a long time to exit for me, the whole process does not really look fluid. how can I debug this?
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13:15.16ejayHi all. Is it possible to force application to minimize to systray (plasma5)?
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13:20.57e-animaejay, i have seen that setting in the application settings itself
13:21.56ejaye-anima: but application i'm using got no such option.
13:22.30e-animaok. then i have no idea. i guess the application must support "beeing send to systray"
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13:51.16rdieterejay: currently, I can work, but only if you use some external tool, like ksystraycmd (from kde-workspace-4.x) or kocker (or equivalent)
13:51.26rdietersorry, make that kdocker
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14:32.04quupI have plasma on fedora 23,  how do I mute notifications?
14:32.31quup(I used to have a 'notifications' slider when clicking the volume icon in the tray, but now I can only set output and record volume there.)
14:34.25hateballquup: which volume plasmoid are you using?
14:34.47hateballkmix or plasma-pa ?
14:35.10quuphateball: no idea, will a screenshot help?
14:35.50quup(n/m, PrtScr button doesn't work anymore)
14:42.47rdieterquup: plasma-pa is used by default.  unfortunately, the notification volume feature is not in plasma-pa yet, only kmix
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14:49.37quuprdieter: ok, thanks
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15:44.58nfkthere have been good backgrounds before but the latest one is very, very good
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16:04.07porkslapchopanyone else having problems with sddm? Is not starting on boot for me
16:05.12porkslapchopnvm
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17:22.51Drezil_unihi! should i talk german or english in here?
17:23.06genstormenglish
17:23.11e-animai think english if you want all to understand
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17:23.13e-anima:)
17:23.15Drezil_unii'm thinking about a feature-request for Konsole.. where should i place it at best?
17:23.35Drezil_unior where can i contribute so i can write it myself :)
17:25.12Drezil_unibasically i want to generate pixel-graphics as characters. as console-characters are typically 8x16 px i thought about defining a new escape-pattern (like ^[....) where you can put 8*16 rgba-values that get then rendered as one character
17:25.20Drezil_unibasically defining a symbol inline.
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17:26.31Drezil_unione target use-case would be a better resolution for my img2ascii-converter which displays images in terminals (even over SSH).
17:27.09Drezil_unibut i haven't looked into the code yet, so i don't know how hard that would be on the rendering-side..
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17:29.40ann-sophiaOn plasma 5, t seems that circular scrolling is not working for my touchpad and the two-finger scrolling is too sensitve. What can I do to debug this? Also, I *think* it was already working, I don't know what I've changed, probably an update.
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19:01.51Rishdoes any one knows why to use "#define NanString L"NAN"
19:02.01Rish?
19:06.10nfkDrezil_uni, it really should not be done in a way that's specific to konsole
19:06.18nfkand funny fact, i had the same general idea today
19:07.14nfkyou could probably look into custom fonts and fontconfig or perhaps freetype and generate stuff on the fly or something but you really should not, also consider looking up how old physical graphical terminals did things as they did have actual graphical capabilities
19:07.26nfkstuff like DOS, for example
19:07.51nfkthough from what i know, linux has never had support for those features
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19:08.46nfkDrezil_uni, also ASCII art is shit and there's even an already existing german library aptly named caca
19:09.05nfkhttp://libcaca.zoy.org/
19:09.59nfk(if anyone wonders, it's phonetically same as shit/excrement in german)
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19:36.53leszekthere is no system connection now in plasma 5s network-manager ? How to set them then ?
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19:40.32nfkleszek, make a normal one and then check "available to all users" or something like that
19:40.43nfkyou might or might not need admin privs for that
19:40.49leszekah ok so it was renamed simply
19:41.11nfki have no idea what it's properly called but it's there and been there since long ago
19:41.45leszekhmm... I wonder now how I can make samba-mounter start mounting after the connection was established
19:42.11nfkthat's a systemd question
19:42.47nfkalso it might be possible to launch a script after a connection is established but i think generally it's better to use autoconfiguration if  you can
19:42.51leszeknfk: nope not really. Worked before plasma 5.5 upgrade now it doesn't. Systemd did not change and samba-mounter is a kde service
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19:43.32nfki have no idea what you're talking about there, i usually use sshfs but with fiddling you can make network discovery work with samba
19:44.04leszekI am talking about samba-mounter
19:44.40nfkthe one i know of is not a kde service and is part of your init or base system
19:44.57nfkyou can literally mount samba stuff from /etc/fstab
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19:45.53leszekI mean that
19:45.55leszekhttps://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fafiestas%2Fsamba-mounter.git
19:46.13leszekseems to be some kind of bug. As from the code the onstart.cpp has a check for if its online or not
19:46.26nfkit's been dead for 1.5 years
19:46.35nfkfrankly it's not surprise it  broke
19:47.27nfkleszek, most likely something it's using changed and since it's not been maintained for 1.5 years, it's now broken
19:48.05leszekit is maintained see the frameworks branch
19:48.12leszeklast update was october something
19:48.12nfkyou either get to figure it out yourself, downgrade and stay with old plasma (or more likely frameworks) or you forget about it
19:49.06nfkleszek, in other words the master branch is still broken
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19:49.24leszeknfk: the master branch is old and for plasma 4 and should work
19:49.29FLHerneGood evening
19:49.31leszekwe use it in netrunner 14 and it works
19:49.42nfkleszek, not any more, it would seem
19:49.54nfkand there is no plasma 4, never has been
19:49.59nfkit's plasma and plasma 5
19:50.05leszekI am not sure if the frameworks version is broken or not. We just have a user reporting it not working anymore and I am trying to figure out whats wrong
19:50.31nfkand i don't think plasma has anything to do with it, it's kde sc 4 and probably frameworks stuff
19:50.37FLHerneI'm trying out 5.6-beta via Arch's kde-unstable repo, but the nifty colour-matching in Plasma doesn't seem to work
19:50.45FLHerneIs there a setting I need to enable?
19:50.49porkslapchopdoes anyone know if kdeconnect can support mtp in some way?
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19:50.56FLHerneAlready cleared caches etc
19:50.58nfkleszek, you'll either get to actual think not derp on irc or try out the frameworks branch
19:51.13porkslapchopFLHerne: is it stable or too many crashes?
19:51.37leszeknfk: we have the frameworks version
19:51.49nfkporkslapchop, btw, i hope you sorted out your ssl abi bork
19:51.50FLHerneporkslapchop: Nothing's crashed visibly yet. Several things crash when logging out
19:52.07porkslapchopnfk: ?
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19:52.12nfkleszek, if that is broken, i'd recommend you find the author or someone who actually knows their dev stuff
19:52.18FLHerneOh, and it hung on the splash screen once
19:52.20nfkporkslapchop, sddm being broken
19:52.25porkslapchopFLHerne: well logout works every second time for me
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19:52.53porkslapchopnfk: yes. for some reasn I had to reinstall lightdm and disable that in systemd then reenabled sddm again.
19:53.32nfkporkslapchop, a systemctl enable sddm should have been enough
19:53.41nfkor whatever was the right incantation
19:53.43porkslapchopnfk: that was the problem. it wasnt
19:53.58nfkit actually runs the install every time you enable something, i think
19:54.04nfkporkslapchop, what wasn't?
19:54.17porkslapchopnfk I somehoiw forgot to disable lightdm so I had to reinstall the package and disable it.
19:54.25nfkthe fuck?
19:54.30porkslapchopyeah
19:54.42porkslapchopI thought systemd automatically disables uninstalled packages
19:54.55nfkyou can still just enable over the old one, i think though i'd disable and then enable the new one
19:54.57porkslapchopbtw totally offtopic. but what video player is anyone using?
19:55.01nfkstill, nothing that would require a reinstall
19:55.04nfkmpv
19:55.16nfkthe best one out there, especially if you want one for linux
19:55.21porkslapchopnfk: nope.that was pretty weird actually
19:55.46porkslapchopnfk: yeah I have a pretty simple and nice mpv config. but I switched to bomi.
19:55.57porkslapchophope the dev will work on it again sometime.
19:56.08nfkporkslapchop, i'm rather certain you'd have a dead symlink to the unit file but i'm not aware of it being a problem
19:56.20nfkalso enabling sddm should have overwritten that dead symlink anyway
19:56.34porkslapchopIt didn't
19:56.36nfkbomi?
19:56.44porkslapchopmaybe I reproduce and file a bug report?
19:57.05nfkalso mpv is in a league of its own - frame interpolation, color management, crazy scalers, etc
19:57.23nfkdo whatever you want, i'm just a user
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19:57.31porkslapchopyeah bomi is qt5,youtube-dl support(with on the fly quality switching),themeable,motion-smoothing. Basically a frontend for mpv but without installing the mpv package
19:57.39nfkmpv has youtube-dl support
19:57.42porkslapchopI know
19:57.51nfkand even built-in crunchyroll support
19:58.37nfkthough they don't advertise it as it was a feature request of a crunchyroll someboss derped by his slow ISP and web player
19:59.09porkslapchopbut bomis is also very nice. for example I want to make a youtube playlist from several different channels. I just add the links into the playlist and save the playlist
19:59.28nfkporkslapchop, i guess it's using libmpv
19:59.34porkslapchopthat could be
19:59.42porkslapchopoh well offtopic though.
20:00.00nfkmaking world a better place by telling them about mpv is never wrong
20:00.51porkslapchopyeah it's already way better then mplayer. Ehm do you know if global menu/appmenu/topmenu will be a thing again plasma5? I remember it was a option kde4
20:01.07nfkwhat are you talking about?
20:01.26nfkoh, i remember
20:02.05nfki used to use it even, i think they have played around and there might be some stuff from canonical to export it but i'm not sure how official they are
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20:02.29nfki just know martin graesslin was okay with some concept art (and I liked what i saw, too)
20:02.57porkslapchopmaybe it will come in a couple of years because everyone uses gmenumodel or whatever its called
20:03.18nfkuses what?
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20:04.27nfkporkslapchop, looking at bomi, it does not look very mpv related
20:05.02nfkthat xylosper might ring a bell slightly but i have never heard of any other contributor to bomi
20:06.16porkslapchopnfk: if you look at the github page you can see that it builds mpv. it is also listed in the archwiki under mpv frontend
20:06.27porkslapchopit just does not use the latest version
20:07.04nfkporkslapchop, going by GitHub they are using an terribly old fork of mpv
20:07.11nfkyou really should try the original at this point
20:07.23nfki'm surprised it even has frame interpolation
20:07.40nfksince i don't remember it being there  a year ago but perhaps time just flies that quickly
20:07.57porkslapchopwell I can see a difference. but not as good as in mpv
20:08.04nfkbtw, nowadays mpv has a built-in GUI
20:08.14nfkthough it's not that powerful but at least better than the old OSD
20:08.29porkslapchopnfk: dude no need to tell me.I already have it on windows and on here
20:08.36nfkthough i just use the modernised libass rendered OSD
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20:08.38porkslapchopbut thx anyway
20:09.47nfkvo=opengl-hq:prescale=superxbr:prescale-downscaling-threshold=1.9:prescale-passes=3:scaler-lut-size=9:scale=ewa_lanczossharp:dscale=mitchell:cscale=mitchell:tscale=mitchell:tscale-clamp:interpolation:deband-grain=72:gamma=0.8:blend-subtitles=yes:target-prim=bt.709:target-trc=srgb:icc-profile-auto:icc-intent=0:icc-profile="/home/me/somefile"
20:10.13nfkand that's not even the best quality config you can make, just the best my hardware can run
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20:11.50nfkbtw, one of bomi contributors has a rather peculiar username: https://github.com/ValdikSS
20:12.26nfkan avator from an anime/VN and a username that makes you think of nazis, what has world come to
20:12.31nfk*avatar
20:12.32nfkyawns
20:12.50nfkand i guess i should move to #kde-chat
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20:13.08porkslapchopyes
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21:32.39nemysishehe i not use this chat channel
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22:04.14AciD`does the pastebin widget from kde4 exists for kde5?
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22:18.56rdieterAciD`: as far as I know, no, it's not been ported (yet)
22:25.25nemysisFLHerne, #kde-chat
22:25.27nemysisgood night
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22:32.09axc1298does kde need to be configured to use a VPN, or is it enough to just install the vpn company's client and set it up through that?
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22:38.05porkslapchopyou can do both I think
22:38.39jfmcarreiraany kate devel here??
22:43.48teprrrjfmcarreira: you may want to try #kate
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22:49.05toskyaxc1298: this is not about KDE, but networkmanager; plasma has an applet to configure network manager
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22:52.45axc1298tosky: cool. i'm using the wicd plasma applet, but might try networkmanager if it makes it easier
22:53.28FLHerneaxc1298: Then this is about wicd ;-)
22:54.03axc1298FLHerne: what is? my question?
22:54.26axc1298kde has some network settings in its system settings so i wasn't sure if i configure it through there or what
22:54.35jfmcarreirateprrr: thanks
22:56.11FLHerneaxc1298: The wicd applet configures wicd, the NetworkManager applet configures networkmanager. Either way, it's just configuring the underlying service
22:56.23FLHerneActually, I'm not sure about the systemsettings KCM
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