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01:45.35 | Egyptian[Home] | hello - i got a strange problem - my laptop has a docking station and one day i took it off the docking station and didnt find the task bar so i added one. then when i docked it again .. i had TWO task bars. ..help? |
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01:50.27 | jsamyth | Egyptian[Home]: why can't you delete one of them? |
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04:57.40 | AciD` | thiago -> fun fact : I disabled the screen saving thinking that it would prevent my screen to suspend (and then I'm not able to wake it up, remember?) ; it did not work. BUT, today I tried something else ; I switched to the first tty, then turned off the screen. Few hours later, I turn it back on, then switch to tty7, and my sessionlocker was there ! |
04:57.44 | AciD` | yay \o/ |
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06:56.52 | AciD` | side question : the battle.net icon shown in the taskbar in kde4 (when launching a blizzard game via playonlinux for instance) is now shown in the 'Wine system tray' window on kde5. Any fix for that behavior? |
06:57.56 | thiago | never heard of "Wine system tray" |
06:58.16 | thiago | is WINE using SNI? Or is it using the old XEmbed protocol? |
06:58.22 | thiago | PS: there's no KDE 5. You're running Plasma 5. |
06:59.14 | AciD` | it seems the problem has been spotted a year ago..... |
06:59.15 | AciD` | https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38409 |
06:59.31 | AciD` | oh hey thiago |
06:59.55 | AciD` | have you seen my 'discovery' about the switch to a tty instead of staying on the X session? |
07:00.28 | thiago | I did, but I have no further clues |
07:00.35 | thiago | try installing xembedsniproxy for your current problem |
07:04.00 | AciD` | I'll try |
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07:04.16 | AciD` | looks like the package is named 'stalonetray' on debian-based distro |
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07:09.28 | AciD` | ok, it seems this feature (legacy icon) has been restored in 5.5 (cf. https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38409#c23) |
07:09.32 | AciD` | sorry for the noise |
07:09.33 | AciD` | :) |
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09:01.58 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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09:33.34 | e-anima | good morning. lesson learned this night. dont play around with community themes in the theme manager :) |
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10:16.50 | e-anima | is there any way to NOT make the windows on 2nd 3d and 4th monitor to drop under the bar i added at the bottom to show the active windows on that screen. it does not happen on the main screen btw. |
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10:35.41 | Tuju | yeah, so it goes. If i do a merge in kaddresbook with vcard dir resources, it only shows merge at screen, it doesn't do any merge in data. |
10:36.18 | Tuju | i just merged three cards, and grep shows still three different files inside dir if i grep that lastname. |
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11:17.38 | prillian5 | If I try to import an public-key of a friend, I only got a message in Kgpg: import fails: [GNUPG:] IMPORT_RES 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 |
11:17.48 | prillian5 | Any Idea how to check what's going wrong |
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12:02.46 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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12:11.43 | e-anima | hi |
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12:42.52 | _2M1R_ | bry |
12:43.30 | _2M1R_ | sorry wrong channel :) |
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12:44.26 | Schrostfutz | KDE takes a long time to exit for me, the whole process does not really look fluid. how can I debug this? |
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13:15.16 | ejay | Hi all. Is it possible to force application to minimize to systray (plasma5)? |
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13:20.57 | e-anima | ejay, i have seen that setting in the application settings itself |
13:21.56 | ejay | e-anima: but application i'm using got no such option. |
13:22.30 | e-anima | ok. then i have no idea. i guess the application must support "beeing send to systray" |
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13:51.16 | rdieter | ejay: currently, I can work, but only if you use some external tool, like ksystraycmd (from kde-workspace-4.x) or kocker (or equivalent) |
13:51.26 | rdieter | sorry, make that kdocker |
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14:32.04 | quup | I have plasma on fedora 23, how do I mute notifications? |
14:32.31 | quup | (I used to have a 'notifications' slider when clicking the volume icon in the tray, but now I can only set output and record volume there.) |
14:34.25 | hateball | quup: which volume plasmoid are you using? |
14:34.47 | hateball | kmix or plasma-pa ? |
14:35.10 | quup | hateball: no idea, will a screenshot help? |
14:35.50 | quup | (n/m, PrtScr button doesn't work anymore) |
14:42.47 | rdieter | quup: plasma-pa is used by default. unfortunately, the notification volume feature is not in plasma-pa yet, only kmix |
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14:49.37 | quup | rdieter: ok, thanks |
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15:15.54 | hendrix | I've laptop with it's own screen off, hooked with 2 external displays: hdmi1 (main) and vga1. every now and then all the content of main display (windows, plasmoids, wallapaper) disappears leaving me only a black screen and appears in vga secondary screen. how can I prevent this happening? output of xrandr and ~/.Xsession-errors. http://paste.opensuse.org/94308056 |
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15:44.58 | nfk | there have been good backgrounds before but the latest one is very, very good |
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16:04.07 | porkslapchop | anyone else having problems with sddm? Is not starting on boot for me |
16:05.12 | porkslapchop | nvm |
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17:22.51 | Drezil_uni | hi! should i talk german or english in here? |
17:23.06 | genstorm | english |
17:23.11 | e-anima | i think english if you want all to understand |
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17:23.13 | e-anima | :) |
17:23.15 | Drezil_uni | i'm thinking about a feature-request for Konsole.. where should i place it at best? |
17:23.35 | Drezil_uni | or where can i contribute so i can write it myself :) |
17:25.12 | Drezil_uni | basically i want to generate pixel-graphics as characters. as console-characters are typically 8x16 px i thought about defining a new escape-pattern (like ^[....) where you can put 8*16 rgba-values that get then rendered as one character |
17:25.20 | Drezil_uni | basically defining a symbol inline. |
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17:26.31 | Drezil_uni | one target use-case would be a better resolution for my img2ascii-converter which displays images in terminals (even over SSH). |
17:27.09 | Drezil_uni | but i haven't looked into the code yet, so i don't know how hard that would be on the rendering-side.. |
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17:29.40 | ann-sophia | On plasma 5, t seems that circular scrolling is not working for my touchpad and the two-finger scrolling is too sensitve. What can I do to debug this? Also, I *think* it was already working, I don't know what I've changed, probably an update. |
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19:01.51 | Rish | does any one knows why to use "#define NanString L"NAN" |
19:02.01 | Rish | ? |
19:06.10 | nfk | Drezil_uni, it really should not be done in a way that's specific to konsole |
19:06.18 | nfk | and funny fact, i had the same general idea today |
19:07.14 | nfk | you could probably look into custom fonts and fontconfig or perhaps freetype and generate stuff on the fly or something but you really should not, also consider looking up how old physical graphical terminals did things as they did have actual graphical capabilities |
19:07.26 | nfk | stuff like DOS, for example |
19:07.51 | nfk | though from what i know, linux has never had support for those features |
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19:08.46 | nfk | Drezil_uni, also ASCII art is shit and there's even an already existing german library aptly named caca |
19:09.05 | nfk | http://libcaca.zoy.org/ |
19:09.59 | nfk | (if anyone wonders, it's phonetically same as shit/excrement in german) |
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19:36.53 | leszek | there is no system connection now in plasma 5s network-manager ? How to set them then ? |
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19:40.32 | nfk | leszek, make a normal one and then check "available to all users" or something like that |
19:40.43 | nfk | you might or might not need admin privs for that |
19:40.49 | leszek | ah ok so it was renamed simply |
19:41.11 | nfk | i have no idea what it's properly called but it's there and been there since long ago |
19:41.45 | leszek | hmm... I wonder now how I can make samba-mounter start mounting after the connection was established |
19:42.11 | nfk | that's a systemd question |
19:42.47 | nfk | also it might be possible to launch a script after a connection is established but i think generally it's better to use autoconfiguration if you can |
19:42.51 | leszek | nfk: nope not really. Worked before plasma 5.5 upgrade now it doesn't. Systemd did not change and samba-mounter is a kde service |
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19:43.32 | nfk | i have no idea what you're talking about there, i usually use sshfs but with fiddling you can make network discovery work with samba |
19:44.04 | leszek | I am talking about samba-mounter |
19:44.40 | nfk | the one i know of is not a kde service and is part of your init or base system |
19:44.57 | nfk | you can literally mount samba stuff from /etc/fstab |
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19:45.53 | leszek | I mean that |
19:45.55 | leszek | https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fafiestas%2Fsamba-mounter.git |
19:46.13 | leszek | seems to be some kind of bug. As from the code the onstart.cpp has a check for if its online or not |
19:46.26 | nfk | it's been dead for 1.5 years |
19:46.35 | nfk | frankly it's not surprise it broke |
19:47.27 | nfk | leszek, most likely something it's using changed and since it's not been maintained for 1.5 years, it's now broken |
19:48.05 | leszek | it is maintained see the frameworks branch |
19:48.12 | leszek | last update was october something |
19:48.12 | nfk | you either get to figure it out yourself, downgrade and stay with old plasma (or more likely frameworks) or you forget about it |
19:49.06 | nfk | leszek, in other words the master branch is still broken |
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19:49.24 | leszek | nfk: the master branch is old and for plasma 4 and should work |
19:49.29 | FLHerne | Good evening |
19:49.31 | leszek | we use it in netrunner 14 and it works |
19:49.42 | nfk | leszek, not any more, it would seem |
19:49.54 | nfk | and there is no plasma 4, never has been |
19:49.59 | nfk | it's plasma and plasma 5 |
19:50.05 | leszek | I am not sure if the frameworks version is broken or not. We just have a user reporting it not working anymore and I am trying to figure out whats wrong |
19:50.31 | nfk | and i don't think plasma has anything to do with it, it's kde sc 4 and probably frameworks stuff |
19:50.37 | FLHerne | I'm trying out 5.6-beta via Arch's kde-unstable repo, but the nifty colour-matching in Plasma doesn't seem to work |
19:50.45 | FLHerne | Is there a setting I need to enable? |
19:50.49 | porkslapchop | does anyone know if kdeconnect can support mtp in some way? |
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19:50.56 | FLHerne | Already cleared caches etc |
19:50.58 | nfk | leszek, you'll either get to actual think not derp on irc or try out the frameworks branch |
19:51.13 | porkslapchop | FLHerne: is it stable or too many crashes? |
19:51.37 | leszek | nfk: we have the frameworks version |
19:51.49 | nfk | porkslapchop, btw, i hope you sorted out your ssl abi bork |
19:51.50 | FLHerne | porkslapchop: Nothing's crashed visibly yet. Several things crash when logging out |
19:52.07 | porkslapchop | nfk: ? |
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19:52.12 | nfk | leszek, if that is broken, i'd recommend you find the author or someone who actually knows their dev stuff |
19:52.18 | FLHerne | Oh, and it hung on the splash screen once |
19:52.20 | nfk | porkslapchop, sddm being broken |
19:52.25 | porkslapchop | FLHerne: well logout works every second time for me |
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19:52.53 | porkslapchop | nfk: yes. for some reasn I had to reinstall lightdm and disable that in systemd then reenabled sddm again. |
19:53.32 | nfk | porkslapchop, a systemctl enable sddm should have been enough |
19:53.41 | nfk | or whatever was the right incantation |
19:53.43 | porkslapchop | nfk: that was the problem. it wasnt |
19:53.58 | nfk | it actually runs the install every time you enable something, i think |
19:54.04 | nfk | porkslapchop, what wasn't? |
19:54.17 | porkslapchop | nfk I somehoiw forgot to disable lightdm so I had to reinstall the package and disable it. |
19:54.25 | nfk | the fuck? |
19:54.30 | porkslapchop | yeah |
19:54.42 | porkslapchop | I thought systemd automatically disables uninstalled packages |
19:54.55 | nfk | you can still just enable over the old one, i think though i'd disable and then enable the new one |
19:54.57 | porkslapchop | btw totally offtopic. but what video player is anyone using? |
19:55.01 | nfk | still, nothing that would require a reinstall |
19:55.04 | nfk | mpv |
19:55.16 | nfk | the best one out there, especially if you want one for linux |
19:55.21 | porkslapchop | nfk: nope.that was pretty weird actually |
19:55.46 | porkslapchop | nfk: yeah I have a pretty simple and nice mpv config. but I switched to bomi. |
19:55.57 | porkslapchop | hope the dev will work on it again sometime. |
19:56.08 | nfk | porkslapchop, i'm rather certain you'd have a dead symlink to the unit file but i'm not aware of it being a problem |
19:56.20 | nfk | also enabling sddm should have overwritten that dead symlink anyway |
19:56.34 | porkslapchop | It didn't |
19:56.36 | nfk | bomi? |
19:56.44 | porkslapchop | maybe I reproduce and file a bug report? |
19:57.05 | nfk | also mpv is in a league of its own - frame interpolation, color management, crazy scalers, etc |
19:57.23 | nfk | do whatever you want, i'm just a user |
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19:57.31 | porkslapchop | yeah bomi is qt5,youtube-dl support(with on the fly quality switching),themeable,motion-smoothing. Basically a frontend for mpv but without installing the mpv package |
19:57.39 | nfk | mpv has youtube-dl support |
19:57.42 | porkslapchop | I know |
19:57.51 | nfk | and even built-in crunchyroll support |
19:58.37 | nfk | though they don't advertise it as it was a feature request of a crunchyroll someboss derped by his slow ISP and web player |
19:59.09 | porkslapchop | but bomis is also very nice. for example I want to make a youtube playlist from several different channels. I just add the links into the playlist and save the playlist |
19:59.28 | nfk | porkslapchop, i guess it's using libmpv |
19:59.34 | porkslapchop | that could be |
19:59.42 | porkslapchop | oh well offtopic though. |
20:00.00 | nfk | making world a better place by telling them about mpv is never wrong |
20:00.51 | porkslapchop | yeah it's already way better then mplayer. Ehm do you know if global menu/appmenu/topmenu will be a thing again plasma5? I remember it was a option kde4 |
20:01.07 | nfk | what are you talking about? |
20:01.26 | nfk | oh, i remember |
20:02.05 | nfk | i used to use it even, i think they have played around and there might be some stuff from canonical to export it but i'm not sure how official they are |
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20:02.29 | nfk | i just know martin graesslin was okay with some concept art (and I liked what i saw, too) |
20:02.57 | porkslapchop | maybe it will come in a couple of years because everyone uses gmenumodel or whatever its called |
20:03.18 | nfk | uses what? |
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20:04.27 | nfk | porkslapchop, looking at bomi, it does not look very mpv related |
20:05.02 | nfk | that xylosper might ring a bell slightly but i have never heard of any other contributor to bomi |
20:06.16 | porkslapchop | nfk: if you look at the github page you can see that it builds mpv. it is also listed in the archwiki under mpv frontend |
20:06.27 | porkslapchop | it just does not use the latest version |
20:07.04 | nfk | porkslapchop, going by GitHub they are using an terribly old fork of mpv |
20:07.11 | nfk | you really should try the original at this point |
20:07.23 | nfk | i'm surprised it even has frame interpolation |
20:07.40 | nfk | since i don't remember it being there a year ago but perhaps time just flies that quickly |
20:07.57 | porkslapchop | well I can see a difference. but not as good as in mpv |
20:08.04 | nfk | btw, nowadays mpv has a built-in GUI |
20:08.14 | nfk | though it's not that powerful but at least better than the old OSD |
20:08.29 | porkslapchop | nfk: dude no need to tell me.I already have it on windows and on here |
20:08.36 | nfk | though i just use the modernised libass rendered OSD |
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20:08.38 | porkslapchop | but thx anyway |
20:09.47 | nfk | vo=opengl-hq:prescale=superxbr:prescale-downscaling-threshold=1.9:prescale-passes=3:scaler-lut-size=9:scale=ewa_lanczossharp:dscale=mitchell:cscale=mitchell:tscale=mitchell:tscale-clamp:interpolation:deband-grain=72:gamma=0.8:blend-subtitles=yes:target-prim=bt.709:target-trc=srgb:icc-profile-auto:icc-intent=0:icc-profile="/home/me/somefile" |
20:10.13 | nfk | and that's not even the best quality config you can make, just the best my hardware can run |
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20:11.50 | nfk | btw, one of bomi contributors has a rather peculiar username: https://github.com/ValdikSS |
20:12.26 | nfk | an avator from an anime/VN and a username that makes you think of nazis, what has world come to |
20:12.31 | nfk | *avatar |
20:12.32 | nfk | yawns |
20:12.50 | nfk | and i guess i should move to #kde-chat |
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20:13.08 | porkslapchop | yes |
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21:38.04 | FLHerne | nemysis: ? |
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22:04.14 | AciD` | does the pastebin widget from kde4 exists for kde5? |
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22:18.56 | rdieter | AciD`: as far as I know, no, it's not been ported (yet) |
22:25.25 | nemysis | FLHerne, #kde-chat |
22:25.27 | nemysis | good night |
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22:32.09 | axc1298 | does kde need to be configured to use a VPN, or is it enough to just install the vpn company's client and set it up through that? |
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22:38.05 | porkslapchop | you can do both I think |
22:38.39 | jfmcarreira | any kate devel here?? |
22:43.48 | teprrr | jfmcarreira: you may want to try #kate |
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22:49.05 | tosky | axc1298: this is not about KDE, but networkmanager; plasma has an applet to configure network manager |
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22:52.45 | axc1298 | tosky: cool. i'm using the wicd plasma applet, but might try networkmanager if it makes it easier |
22:53.28 | FLHerne | axc1298: Then this is about wicd ;-) |
22:54.03 | axc1298 | FLHerne: what is? my question? |
22:54.26 | axc1298 | kde has some network settings in its system settings so i wasn't sure if i configure it through there or what |
22:54.35 | jfmcarreira | teprrr: thanks |
22:56.11 | FLHerne | axc1298: The wicd applet configures wicd, the NetworkManager applet configures networkmanager. Either way, it's just configuring the underlying service |
22:56.23 | FLHerne | Actually, I'm not sure about the systemsettings KCM |
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