IRC log for #kde on 20160313

00:01.23grepperyeah. And pavucontrol gets it right afaict
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00:10.02uid1KDE Menu Editor, Version 0.9 on KDE 4.14.8 (CentOS 7) is having problem(s): make changes to a menu entry (LibreOffice), click "Save" and ... no changes in menu.
00:11.27uid1Anyone have any ideas?
00:12.17uid1Hmm, making changes, clicking "Save", exiting, re-opening, changes gone.
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00:15.26greppertries to see if a logout/login fixes it
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00:31.20robertgagnonhi, i use dual screen often when i do a suspen 2 ram or lock my session, when i reconnect plasma seem to have crashed... my program still running... but lost background, menu.... how to restart plasma?
00:31.51toskycan you open krunner with ALT-F2? If yes, just run plasmashell
00:32.24toskyif not, login to a terminal (ctrl-alt-f2) with your user, execute the command
00:32.27toskyexport DISPLAY=:0
00:32.29toskyand then
00:32.32toskyplasmashell &
00:33.38robertgagnonnoresult with plasmashell
00:34.25toskyno result with plasmashell where?
00:34.28toskyfrom krunner?
00:35.40robertgagnonfrom console...
00:35.53robertgagnoni tried kstart plasmashell, and that worked
00:36.51grepperrdieter: reboot fixed it. Also removed the legacy systray package as I noticed in dmesg it segfaulted
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01:40.05AndrzejLGentleman I am running into a little snag with inkscape under plasma 5. When I am clicking / dragging the ruler to get the "grid" line I seem to be pulling the whole window from maximized to window mode and I cannot grab the grid line and move it to where I want it to be. Anyone here experienced the same issue or knows the solution (other to stop using plasma5)? :)
01:40.11AndrzejLIt happens without the alt + click action btw.
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02:02.08AndrzejLhttps://andrzejl.eu:30303/images/picture.php?/1272/category/173
02:02.10AndrzejLthis is exactly what it looks like
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08:04.39egonsenhi! how does kde tell gtk which theme it should use and where are the kde system settings for gtk styling saved? i'm interested how that stuff works technically
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08:29.35egonsenis there a way to set the default action for the "lock/logout" plasmoid? i want it to show the shutdown tab when clicking
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09:02.53lordievaderGood morning.
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10:43.48ElementWHi, I have a weird issue with Dolphin: when it deals with abnormally long I/O (slow sshfs FUSE or sftp), it just hangs and sends SIGSTOP to most of my processes (at least all the ones running under the Xorg instance). Can this be fixed in any way? Arch Linux, Dolphin 15.12.1/KF5.18.0/Qt5.5.1 on Xfce 4.12.1
10:45.43lateniteHi folks, where and how can I set this with script (for multiple desktops) : http://s13.postimg.org/f2z6vwnav/keyy.png
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10:55.12Quetzalcoatlhi guys
10:55.32Quetzalcoatli just run into a problem and i cant solve it
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10:57.24Quetzalcoatli'm testing kde neon  and for some reason when i try to install oxygen5-icon-theme it's giving me a message error
10:57.53Quetzalcoatl!pastebin
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11:02.17Quetzalcoatli tried apt-get -f install but it fails also
11:03.15Quetzalcoatlall my K menu is unusable
11:03.18Quetzalcoatl!paste
11:04.17Quetzalcoatlhttp://pastebin.com/PrLQ7R5F
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11:07.50Quetzalcoatlhttps://paste.kde.org/pzmt4nxx5
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11:08.59Quetzalcoatlhttps://paste.kde.org/pykvrbbw7
11:09.27Quetzalcoatlhow can i fix this problem
11:09.50Quetzalcoatlbcz i cannot install or remove anything unless i fix this roblem
11:09.56Quetzalcoatl*problem
11:10.28genstormisn't that a question for some neon channel?
11:11.13Quetzalcoatlgenstorm: do you know the kde neon channel name ?
11:11.35genstormQuetzalcoatl: #kde-neon it seems
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11:11.54Quetzalcoatlthank you
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11:42.37lateniteHi folks, where and how can I set this with script (for multiple desktops) : http://s13.postimg.org/f2z6vwnav/keyy.png
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12:01.25BluesKajHiyas all
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12:48.16demlakhmm.. currently i'm playing with xrandr and multimonitor-setup... and now i lose my panels... how to reactivate them? i'm able to reactivate them by restarting X.. but this is a bad workaraund..
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13:00.43rdieterdemlak: restart plasmashell ?
13:01.23rdieterkquitapp5 plasmashell
13:01.25rdieter(wait a bit)
13:01.27rdieterplasmashell
13:01.37rdieterin a terminal or krunner (ALT-F2)
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13:03.22demlakthx.. seems to work
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13:06.33demlakhmm... krunner is not at the middle of the screen anymore
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13:10.38demlakhmm.. and after plaing around... krunner does not appear anymore on primary screen
13:11.27demlakthis all is very buggy
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15:28.05AloysiousHello - has anyone tried building on CentOS  successfully?
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15:46.00akikanyone know a way to get back the device files for an usb stick after using safely remove in dolphin?
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15:52.36karolherbstakik: plug it out and in again?
15:52.59karolherbstakik: maybe you can convince udev too, but never done that
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15:56.24Aloysiouswhere can I check if a package is broken?
15:56.56akikkarolherbst: yes that works but i'm looking for a command to do it
15:57.13karolherbstakik: udevadm should have some subcomand for that or any other udev tool
15:57.34akikkarolherbst: i found a reference to udevadm trigger but that doesn't work
15:57.55karolherbsttrigger only reapplies some rules I think
15:58.35karolherbstakik: maybe you can rescan the usb bus
16:00.03akikfor hard disks, dolphin shows umount. it would be nice to have that entry for usb sticks
16:02.24karolherbstakik: I think you can do that when you remove the udisks permission to remove devices
16:02.56akikkarolherbst: i don't know what you mean by that
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16:08.59akikkarolherbst: do you think udisksctl could help me?
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16:09.07karolherbstmaybe
16:09.37karolherbstakik: maybe udis
16:09.44karolherbstudisksctl dump
16:10.09karolherbstmaybe the device is still listed there
16:10.33akikudisksctl status shows it
16:11.00akikfdisk doesn't see it
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16:14.09karolherbstakik: use  udisksctl mount -p
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16:14.18karolherbstand give it the path you found in dump
16:15.32Aloysiousrdieter: are you around today?
16:17.33akikkarolherbst: what do you mean by path found in dump?
16:17.55karolherbstohh I meant udisksctl status
16:18.07karolherbstwell there is no path in status
16:18.11karolherbstthere is one in dump
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16:20.45akikkarolherbst: this is the output from udisksctl dump http://pastebin.com/raw/SiTWpKAQ
16:22.35karolherbstakik: udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdd
16:22.42karolherbstahh
16:22.46karolherbstyeah, seems oaky
16:24.02akikkarolherbst: comes back with "Error looking up object with path /dev/sdd"
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16:24.45karolherbstk thought so because udev already removed it. There should be a way somehow, but nothing comes into my mind, it has something to do with udev and udisks though
16:24.55akikok thanks
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17:24.21Aloysioushmmm is wayland required for kf5 now?
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17:27.17Aloysiousor can I somehow skip kwayland packages somehow?
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17:46.50ShalokShalomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQM5fU7V-MM
17:47.36karolherbstcan somebody tell me which applications besides chromium/thunderbird/telegram should add those progress bar stuff in plasma 5.6? I want to work on adding support for it in gentoo, but I don't really know which should work with it
17:47.41karolherbstgot it to work within chromium though
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17:55.37ShalokShalomkarolherbst: my prefered usb image writer: http://wiki.rosalab.com/en/index.php/Blog:ROSA_Planet/ROSA_Image_Writer
17:55.51ShalokShalomworks with each distro, in my expirience :)
17:56.29ShalokShalomand it offers a GUI way to delete the partition table, very useful, since dd leads to unaseable sticks sometimes
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18:01.34karolherbstShalokShalom: I was thinking about concentrating on applications first, which are widely used like chromium
18:02.12ShalokShalomwhen popularity is your primary interest, is windows maybe your plattform..
18:02.19ShalokShalomit works with each iso
18:02.26ShalokShalomalso without packaging
18:02.34ShalokShalomamarok ?
18:02.58ShalokShalomshow the progress of the current song/playlist :)
18:03.10karolherbstohh amarok
18:03.16ShalokShalomyep :)
18:03.21karolherbstk, that I have installed
18:03.24ShalokShalomnice idea, thanks
18:03.29ShalokShalomgood
18:03.38genstormhmm amarok
18:03.45karolherbstmhhh
18:03.46karolherbstfunny
18:03.47ShalokShalomand so on
18:03.56karolherbsteven the mediaplayer stuff from 5.6 doesn't work with amarok here
18:04.06karolherbstbut I use the kf5 version
18:04.15ShalokShalomdistro ?
18:04.18karolherbstgentoo
18:04.24ShalokShalommediaplayer stuff ?
18:04.27ShalokShalomah, yeah
18:04.34ShalokShalom#kaosx
18:04.36karolherbstit works with juk
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18:04.49ShalokShalomah
18:04.51ShalokShalomyeah
18:04.59ShalokShalomamarok port start very late
18:05.08ShalokShalomand 5.6 is in beta
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18:06.58genstormmaybe the mpris plugin is still deactivated in kf5 branch
18:07.01ShalokShalomwhats up with fiber/qupzilla and otter ?
18:07.06ShalokShalomyep
18:07.13karolherbstwell
18:07.19ShalokShalomalready ask in devel ?
18:07.20karolherbstthe systray media player icon works with amarok:5
18:08.44ShalokShalomok, no new info about fiber
18:08.56ShalokShalom#amarok
18:11.47ShalokShalomkarolherbst: otter ? qupzilla ?
18:11.51ShalokShalomdownloads
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18:11.58ShalokShalompage loadings
18:12.19genstormpage loadings... maybe the function shouldn't be overused
18:12.24karolherbstyeah
18:12.33karolherbstI already though song playtime is a bit much
18:12.35karolherbst*thought
18:12.44karolherbstbut IE does it on windows I think?
18:12.54karolherbstor was it only in the tabs
18:12.57genstormrebuilding the database on the other hand
18:13.08ShalokShalomkarolherbst: playlist ?
18:13.23ShalokShalom13/25 tracks might be easy ?
18:13.26karolherbstI don't think any user cares
18:13.44ShalokShalomgenstorm: its KDE: optional ofc :)
18:13.52ShalokShalomi care :)
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18:14.29genstormI wouldn't even see it, task manager being hidden :p
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19:20.38AloysiousHello all - is it possible to build without kwayland or does main branch now demand wayland to build?
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19:50.22HamRadiohttps://www.strawpoll.me/7073843
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20:21.16BlaXpiritI'm not sure if you mean the panel theme or the window skins
20:22.35BlaXpiritoh, they're joined together in "Look and Feel"
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20:23.02BlaXpiritwell, I use dark for panels but for window colors light is easier on the eye and causes less problems
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20:26.34saintdevon Plasma 5, I have a default panel on each of my monitors, is there any way to synchronize the application launchers so they show the same favorites?
20:27.07BlaXpiritprobably not
20:30.46karolherbstby the way, does anybody else have some strange song lags with pulse over the network with phonon based applications?
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21:10.58AndrzejLGentleman I am running into a little snag with inkscape (and not only) under plasma 5. When I am clicking / dragging the ruler to get the "grid" line I seem to be pulling the whole window from maximized to window mode and I cannot grab the grid line and move it to where I want it to be. Anyone here experienced the same issue or knows the solution (other to stop using plasma5)? :) It happens ...
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21:11.04AndrzejL... without the alt + click action btw. https://andrzejl.eu:30303/images/picture.php?/1272/category/173 this is exactly what it looks like.
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21:13.22BlaXpiritAndrzejL, :/
21:14.24BlaXpiritAndrzejL, does not happen here
21:15.13AndrzejLit happens here with almost any window I click / drag
21:15.24BlaXpiritAndrzejL, it happens only on oxygen-gtk
21:15.34AndrzejLMmmmm
21:15.50AndrzejLWait... so IF I switch to breeze I should be mkay?
21:15.52AndrzejLlets see
21:16.19BlaXpiritAndrzejL, you don't switch to breeze
21:16.33BlaXpiritAndrzejL, just gtk theme
21:17.08AndrzejLmy gtk theme is set to breeze for both gtk 2 and 3
21:17.10AndrzejLhowever..
21:18.44AndrzejLGTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-2.0/gtkrc inkscape %F
21:18.50AndrzejLthat explains a lot...
21:18.51AndrzejL;)
21:18.55AndrzejLthanks BlaXpirit
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21:49.23AloysiousAnyone have experience building kwayland on systems that don't have libwayland > 1.7.0 ?
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22:09.13thiagoAloysious: first step, upgrade
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22:22.12Aloysiousthiago: using centos7 - its the newest?
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22:23.45karolherbstAloysious: then don't use ancient software if you really want to use plasma, just a hint
22:24.14genstormI guess tjhat
22:24.53genstormis supposed to be a recent release of centos but yeah, it's bound to be rather depressing trying to run up-to-date plasma there
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22:32.27Aloysiouskarolherbst: eh? centos has all the requirements to run latest plasma. I'm asking about Wayland, which is not standard afaik.
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22:33.17thiagoAloysious: no, it isn't. The latest is Wayland 1.10
22:33.23thiagoAloysious: why would you use anything but the latest?
22:33.24thiagoupgrade
22:33.25genstormAloysious: wayland is a build requirement even if you don't run it
22:34.13karolherbstonly for 5.5.95 right?
22:35.47genstormit has been that way for 5.5 already
22:35.58karolherbstAloysious: with requierements you mean you build all the frameworks pacakges yourself?
22:36.07karolherbstand qt5?
22:36.31toskyAloysious: how difficult is to locally compile a newer libwayland? It shouldn't have too many requirements
22:36.41Aloysiousgenstrom: Thanks, that's what I was asking about. centOS comes with wayland standard (runs nicely for gnome) but was curious if I might find help building a new version here
22:37.02thiagoyou can get help for building a new version of wayland in #wayland
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22:37.17Aloysiouskarolherbst: yes - Qt5 and cmake are distributed from epel for centos
22:38.03Aloysioustosky: thanks - I'll take a look there
22:38.42Aloysiouserr sorry - meant thiago
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22:44.54karolherbstmhh in kwin_wayland the window titlebar is a bit big
22:45.02Aloysiouswell thanks for all your help - quite excited to get cmake 3.5 :3
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