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00:07.32arvuthey
00:07.54arvuthow do I tell kde4 to not automess with my volumes on various apps sharing the same source?
00:08.08arvutfor example, making a skypecall mutes playback from vlc
00:08.44arvutwhile playing a youtube video in firefox works fine with initiated or incomming skypecall, and with vlc
00:09.13arvutsound is not muted on other app than vlc whenever I think of it actually
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00:37.03Tordekhi, I'm having an odd issue with certificates
00:37.58TordekI have a google account on akonadi, and whenever I boot I get an error message: "The server failed the authenticity check", it's the equifax cert with hash 7359755c6df9a0abc3060bce369564c8ec4542a3
00:38.38Tordekif I manually add the cert, it appears correctly on my "user installed certs", but it disappears on reboot
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00:54.54arvutplz crash all programs
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01:15.05grepperI'm wondering what the issue is that when I click on certain links (external), like those within the kde system settings, it tries tries the download the file *.php or whatever, instead of opening it in a browser. Then I get a bunch of popups "KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/kioexec'" that repeat for a few minutes.
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01:19.57genstormgrepper: in applications kcm you can change link behaviour, open based on content or just pass the url
01:21.58greppergenstorm: is the problem that I have selected chrome as my browser in default applications?
01:22.37genstormno
01:23.50grepperah, changing to google-chrome %s seems to have fixed it. Is that the solution?
01:24.06grepperI just had "google-chrome" in there before under default apps
01:25.19genstormwell obviously it is, no? ;)
01:26.09grepperwell, obviously only if unintended side effects don't show up  Some fixes are only partial fixes,no ?  ;)
01:26.16grepperanyway, thanks
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07:11.16dreamerboyhi I am trying to install simon, for it I need Qwt but I am unable to install it.
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07:17.38dreamerboy:(
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07:20.32genstormdreamerboy: that would be a distro bug then, no?
07:21.08dreamerboyidk I am under arch
07:21.15dreamerboygenstorm
07:21.32dreamerboywhat do I need to install to have qwt?
07:21.54genstormthat shouldn't be your business, it's Arches package management's to figure out
07:22.12genstormwhat's the problem exactly?
07:22.13dreamerboyto install qwt?
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07:22.41genstormdreamerboy: if you install simon in Arch, it should pull in qwt automatically, no?
07:22.43dreamerboywhen I try to cmake simon-0.4.1 i get the error Could not find Qwt 6.x
07:22.57genstormah. they don't provide simon in their repository?
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07:23.02dreamerboyno
07:24.39genstormthen you should wait for an Arch person to help out, probably on Arch IRC, for I have no idea if they provide something like *-devel packages or similar, or if you should look for simon in some alternative repository
07:24.50dreamerboyI also got Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_ui_files"
07:25.22dreamerboyin which repository should I look for?
07:25.35genstorm--> not an Arch person
07:25.42dreamerboythank you
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07:48.25BlaXpiritdreamerboy, what's the problem? https://google.com/search?q=arch+linux+simon
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07:54.07dreamerboyya well when I makepkg it it says it miss qwt
07:54.26dreamerboyand portaudio + kdepimlibs
07:55.35dreamerboyoh well idk y but it work now :)
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08:02.59BlaXpiritdreamerboy, so install qwt...
08:03.08BlaXpiritanyhow,   makepkg -si  does everything
08:03.33dreamerboystill fail
08:04.51dreamerboynot a question for this channel but how do I install it with the file simon.install?
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08:06.04BlaXpiriti'd tell you to go to #archlinux but they aren't gonna like your vague descriptions
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08:10.49ghostknifeWhen I search with the application launcher, I get many results including documents from my home directory. How can I remove these results? I only want to search in apps/settings/etc.
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08:20.35BlaXpiritghostknife, ever tried settings?
08:21.14BlaXpiritnamely, right click > application menu settings
08:23.53ghostknifeBlaXpirit: yeah, I did. and the right click settings barely contains anything. via System Settings -> Search I disabled all plugins, but the search remains unaffected
08:24.28BlaXpiritghostknife, so you're talking about the one at the top of the screen
08:25.17ghostknifeBlaXpirit: When I click on the K menu, I get an application launcher. When I start typing it starts searching. I'm referring to this one.
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08:25.56BlaXpiritghostknife, well that's good then,  if you right-click it, there are plenty of settings like "show recent documents"
08:26.14BlaXpiritif you're using kde 4, then i'm gonna be mad
08:27.59ghostknifeBlaXpirit: I'm not using the Application Menu, but the Application Launcher in KDE4
08:28.04lordievaderGood morning.
08:28.20ghostknifeBlaXpirit: why mad?
08:28.24BlaXpiritghostknife, OK then I'm mad. you're using obsolete software without even mentioning it
08:28.41ghostknifeBlaXpirit: didn't know that.. I'm just using what came with latest Kubuntu
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08:29.47BlaXpiritghostknife, do you have a   /usr/share/kde4/services/recentdocuments.desktop   ?
08:29.48lordievaderghostknife: If you are using the latest Kubuntu (15.10) you are using Plasma5/KF5.
08:30.09lordievaderOnly Trusty still has KDE4. (Trusty is the latest LTS)
08:31.13ghostknifelordievader: thanks lordievader. I thought as much, but I have binaries like kde4 and I couldn't find definitive answers through the package manager.
08:31.33ghostknifeBlaXpirit: I have /usr/share/kde4/services/recentdocuments.protocol, but not .desktop
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08:31.59lordievaderThat is because of the gradual transition to KF5.
08:32.05BlaXpiritghostknife, what about  /usr/share/kservices5/recentdocuments.desktop
08:32.27ghostknifeBlaXpirit: got that one
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08:33.01BlaXpiritghostknife,  Copy /usr/share/kservices5/plasma-runner-bookmarks.desktop → ~/.local/share/kservices5/plasma-runner-bookmarks.desktop
08:33.09BlaXpiritwait, that's not the file
08:33.27BlaXpiritthough it's also useful for nasty bookmark integration
08:33.29BlaXpiritCopy /usr/share/kservices5/recentdocuments.desktop → ~/.local/share/kservices5/recentdocuments.desktop
08:33.44BlaXpiritReplace a line at the bottom:    X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false    (it used to say true)
08:33.52BlaXpiritrelogin
08:34.53ghostknifebrb
08:34.54BlaXpiritghostknife, indeed the application launcher doesn't have any useful settings. strange. well, the alternative menu is better
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08:36.06ghostknifeBlaXpirit: yeah, I usually prefer the Application Menu as well. But I like trying out the latest features. And the Application Launcher is getting much better
08:36.14ghostknifebrb
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08:41.57ghostknifeBlaXpirit: no change. here is an screengrab to demonstrate what I'm referring to. Perhaps it helps: http://ibin.co/2aCZSbMcQWRl
08:42.44BlaXpirit:(
08:43.42BlaXpiritghostknife, when you go to Dolphin, do you see things like "last week" on the left panel?
08:43.48ghostknifeBlaXpirit: the listed documents aren't only recent documents. it appears to be a file-content search of some sort
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08:44.08ghostknifeBlaXpirit: nope. no last week
08:44.53BlaXpirituh it's actually "last month"
08:45.12ghostknifeBlaXpirit: mine only shows Places and Devices
08:45.30BlaXpiritwell I'm stumped. then I can recommend application menu...  by the way, application launcher barely changed its design at all.  application menu, however, became actually usable and even better in my opinion
08:47.25ghostknifeBlaXpirit: thanks for the effort. So Application Launcher is still very immature :) Back to Application Menu then
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08:48.04ghostknifeah perfect. the application menu is much better!! it also has a search now.
08:49.09BlaXpiritthat's what i'm getting at
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09:00.18iron_houziMy external screen has been working perfectly, until I connected it to my screen today. Now both laptop and external screens are black, only showing the cursor on the laptop screen. The cursor can only be moved in the vertical axis.
09:00.58iron_houziThe problems persists between reboots and the external screen works fine when leaving Xorg
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09:20.38iron_houziLooks like the only option I have now is reinstalling kde :(
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09:37.44alhow do I make changes to the userbase wiki? https://userbase.kde.org/Quick_Start#Creating_an_Account step 2 is a dead link for me
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09:41.41elvisangelaccioal: I believe the login has moved to phabricator + oauth
09:42.03elvisangelacciotry to ask in #kde-www or #kde-sysadmin
09:43.17alelvisangelaccio, ah, and those are the same credentials
09:43.20algot it, thanks
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10:13.43iheIs KDE supposed to work when docking and undocking a laptop (thinkpad t410)? I have tested this with latest opensuse live-cd and the results are poor. Usually, the taskbar disappears completely and all kinds of strange phenomena such as flickering when moving the cursor take place.
10:17.49ghostknifeihe: does your docking station link to an extra monitor?
10:18.19iheyes, external monitor is connected to the displayport connection of the dock.
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10:20.00ghostknifeihe: it could be a driver problem. what screen driver are you using?
10:21.02ihei'm not sure. the laptop has intel graphics as far as i know.
10:21.31ihehow can i check this?
10:21.39srthsrAt least in Kubuntu 15.10 it does work, although displays doesn't get properly activated automatically (Dell Latitude D630, Intel Graphics).
10:22.09ghostknifeihe: lspci -v
10:22.27ghostknifeihe: look at the "VGA controller" section for "Kernel driver in use"
10:22.59ghostknifeihe: the i915 driver has some problems on the latest release kernels, that causes symptoms you're describing. there are some workarounds if this is your problem
10:23.58ihei see... i'll boot the livecd now and check the driver.
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10:31.08iheghostknife: it is i915.
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11:32.29iron_houzighostknife: What are these workarounds you're mentioning? I just had something weird happen to my dell laptop connected to an external screen just now.
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11:33.57ghostknifeihe: that explains the flickering.
11:34.12BluesKajHowdy folks
11:34.36ghostknifeiron_houzi: it's specific to the i915 driver, and manifests most when plugging/unplugging screens, flickering when moving windows/mouse, and screen doesnt recover if it was turned of for power saving.
11:34.47ghostknifeiron_houzi, ihe: I'm looking for the page that described the workaround. will link in a moment
11:35.52iron_houzighostknife: yes .. I'm using this driver and it worked fine until plugging/unplugging and now both screens are black, except the cursor on the laptop screen, which only moves vertically. When dropping out to a TTY, both screens start working again.
11:36.29iron_houzi..and yes .. the external monitor goes off.
11:37.39ghostknifeiron_houzi: try this workaround: System Settings->Display and Monitor->Compositor. Then set Tearing Prevention: Full screen repaints
11:38.10ghostknifeiron_houzi: this works around most of the problems I experienced. I'm still looking for the page describing the bug and all the workarounds - will link when I find it
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11:42.59ghostknifeihe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/672007/flickering-in-kde-plasma-5-4
11:43.03ghostknifeiron_houzi: see ^^^
11:43.32arminhi. is there a usable jabber client for KDE? could be gtk2/gtk3 too as long as it isn't pidgin, but qt would be prefered. OTR support is a must, desktop notifications too. any recommendation would be welcome.
11:44.02iron_houzighostknife: Your first suggestion made the external monitor work, but the display on both screens is black! .. and now I can't reset the change. Is it possible to reset the change from the CLI?
11:44.33ghostknifeiron_houzi: try and reboot
11:44.41iron_houziOK
11:45.26ghostknifeihe, iron_houzi: google "i915 flicker kde". many hits on that, also some details on manually patching removing a patch from the kernel, which is causing the problems.
11:46.15iron_houzighostknife: Is there no fix coming in the near future?
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11:47.13ghostknifeiron_houzi: it's coming for sure. but it needs to go into the kernel upstream and then filter down into the distros, which I guess can be slow. it's been around since December I think
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11:48.02ghostknifeiron_houzi: you can also manually install a Kernel v3, as opposed to v4. From what I gather, the driver for v3 doesn't have the bug.
11:49.02iron_houziI'm on Arch at least
11:50.14ghostknifeah, convenient and up to date :) reading the numerous bug reports referencing these 2 patches causing the problem, you could probably determine how far integration into the v4 kernel is.
11:52.55ghostknifeusing the workarounds I got a dual display working on kernel 4.2.0, i915 and KDE5 without flickering. In my case I disabled the idle screen power management and changed the compositor settings.
11:53.55TaokiYeah... I get flickering too on one computer, even in latest KDE. Typical example of a generic Linux bug :P
11:54.23TaokiBut just confirming it's there for me too. In the past (some weeks ago) it happened on my main machine too.
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11:57.47iron_houziI read that kernel 4.5 might fix things
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12:08.39excalibrHi Im trying to open my Lumia phone in Dolphin but without success. It tells me 'The file or folder udi=/org/kde/solid/udev/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb5/5-2 does not exist.'
12:09.04excalibrany kde guru able to make sense out of this error?
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12:27.42e-animaexcalibr, looks like maybe wrong mounted?
12:27.57e-animais you devide listed if you tyle "lsusb" in the console?
12:28.59e-animaexcalibr, automounter failed maybe. you sure you have all libs needed installed?
12:29.44e-animahttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MTP
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12:37.00excalibre-anima, yep it's listed in lsusb output
12:37.04excalibrBus 005 Device 013: ID 0421:06fc Nokia Mobile Phones
12:39.24ShalokShalommy sound works in the kde systemsettings module (i mean the test there) and not in my media player/browser
12:39.29ShalokShalomusb soundchip
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12:51.32ShalokShalomhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360518
12:51.47ShalokShalomif anybody want to vote for it:
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13:47.26iheghostknife: thanks for the tips! i'll try googling. actually the flickering occurs only when moving the cursor across the two screens. when undocking, task bar disappears.
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15:35.42ghostmagHey there. I am using two screens, 1. is my normal one and 2. is my tv. But KDE thinks the TV is my first and everything I open will open on the TV
15:37.21ghostmagHow can I change that? It's very difficult to work that way
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15:42.57mefistofelesit worked with previous versions of yakuake
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16:21.12lacrymologyon Plasma 5, I've got a few launchers created by running an application and right-clicking and selecting show louncher when not running. One of them is transmission-qt, but for a while now the icon when not running is gone (It's showing a generic icon)
16:22.11lacrymologyI've just created a launcher by running transmission-qt from a console, and that had the right icon, but the launcher couldn't find transmission
16:22.45lacrymologyI also notice that the icon is gone from the application launcher (the "main menu")
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16:23.56lacrymologyI tried uninstalling and reinstalling transmission-qt
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16:48.20gagbohi guys
16:48.28gagboIs there any plan to include per app volume control with plasma-pa applet ? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=352042 Or should I go back to KMix ?
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16:50.05ZaisterIs there a way in Plasma to "zoom" an individual window?
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16:54.07mefistofelesgagbo: I use kmix tbh
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16:55.24gagboYeah I think I'll do that, it's a pita to control volumes with pa, Amarok resets volume between each song, system songs are still loud as hell and stuff
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17:08.57rmk0'lo. is it possible to get okteta to avoid the use of scientific notation when decoding floating point values?
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17:38.18BlaXpiritZaister, no. center cursor on the window and zoom in
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17:38.34BobbejaantjeIs there any way to compile kde 5 apps without the polkit/consolekit dependencies?
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17:41.37victorxI have not installed yet because I understand Plasma 5 giving problems ... is that true?
17:42.38mefistofelesvictorx: been using plasma 5 for months now, no real problems to be honest
17:44.01victorxbut I am using kde4 could use with the Plasma 5? or is it better to stick with kde4
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17:44.56mefistofelesvictorx: better is something subjective, I like plasma 5 and kde apps 5, but kde4 is also nice...
17:45.08mefistofelesvictorx: you may just give it a try using some live OS if in doubt
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17:45.43thiagoplasma 5 has some regressions, but it also has new features
17:45.59victorxcould then help with installation please?
17:45.59thiagoit's a matter of deciding what is more important for you
17:46.25mefistofelesthiago: any relevant regression you can think of right now?
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17:48.28victorxmefistofeles: could show a good link for easy installation?
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17:50.37victorxin principle I would like to me indicates that you use must turn in my make.conf for KDE because I have not activated the essential for this environment.
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17:51.04mefistofelesvictorx: it depends on what OS/Distribution you are using
17:51.16victorxmefistofeles: gentoo
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17:52.06mefistofelesvictorx: I see, I think KDE 5 is still in testing for Gentoo
17:52.42mefistofelesvictorx: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE#KDE_Frameworks.2C_Plasma.2C_and_Applications_5
17:52.46victorxonly for gentoo?
17:52.46mefistofelesread that, I think it has everything
17:52.54mefistofelesvictorx: no, not only for gentoo
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17:54.19genstormKF 5.18 is about to be stabilised, Plasma-5.5.5 will follow afterwards
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17:55.45victorxI'm seeing because according to plasma 5 is testing for gentoo
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18:04.18victorxmefistofeles: You gentoo you have ever used it?
18:04.24mefistofelesvictorx: I have used it, yes
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18:05.35victorxmefistofeles:  not because reason I remember, as you can see was right ... and now is your OS?
18:06.08mefistofelesvictorx: no, I don't use gentoo now, I use archlinux
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18:06.40victorxmefistofeles: for that reason it has been changed to Arch
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18:07.19mefistofelesvictorx: I like rolling release and not having to compile everything
18:07.59Bobbejaantje>using Arch Linux
18:08.18BobbejaantjeIt's like you sexually enjoy being a wilfull slave to your slavemasters
18:08.29victorxmefistofeles: good gentoo has its drawbacks front arch but also advantages
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18:22.33victorxplease could help me get the sound? it is not because it has stopped working.
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18:25.30forestehi
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18:26.24victorxperhaps someone who uses gentoo simultaneously with KDE?
18:27.45forestehow previous normal system tray in kde5 ?
18:33.48mike-zalheh? was that a question? it seems lacking of something...
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18:34.11genstormit is lacking a verb
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18:35.41foresteif the current linux with kde4? kde 5 it still is a big mistake
18:37.12e-animakde 5 is running solid here. but i needed the nvidia proprietary drivers to have stable opengl :D
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18:37.47genstormyou keep talking of some kde5 that does not exist :p
18:37.54e-animaforeste, are you using a translator to paste the text?
18:37.58e-animagenstorm,  plasnma yea
18:38.01e-animasorry :)
18:38.05forestekde big interface :(
18:38.18e-animaforeste, imho not really
18:38.39AciD`hi, why is intellij idea window not showing at all in the icon-only taskbar?
18:38.44AciD`(using plasma 5)
18:39.04e-animaAciD`, i use phpstorm. is it even possible to minimze it into the tray?
18:39.24e-animaah the taskaar. sorry misread
18:39.28AciD`phpstorm, android studio, pycharm works greats with that icon-only taskbar
18:39.32AciD`just not idea
18:39.34AciD`weird
18:39.37e-animayea
18:40.02e-animahavent had such na issue with any program yet. only with the taskbar icon of keepass
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18:40.36forestee-anima: yes using translate google little I know english
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18:42.35AciD`see http://imgur.com/Y6tqPd9 no icon for idea
18:43.13AciD`also for a couple of days, the icon for firefox-dev and qalculate show a bar at the bottom of the icon, is that normal?
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18:45.18victorxAciD`: Which operating system are you using with KDE?
18:46.41AciD`kubuntu 15.10
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18:52.26genstormit's got to have _some_ appearance ;) imo it's very user friendly
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18:56.28forestekde4 was better integrated, even teething versions, the interface on 1600x900 is large compared to the kde4
18:57.13genstormI can't confirm
18:57.44genstormmy borders are slim, my panels are slim
18:59.11karolherbstI don't have borderds :O
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19:00.17genstormor that ;)
19:00.19AciD`the main grip against kde5 (yes, I'll continue to say kde5), is that again, it has lost quite a lot of feature over kde4 (which itself lost features compared to kde3)
19:00.26AciD`this trend is annoying
19:00.42AciD`features + app
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19:01.48karolherbstwell which features are you missing?
19:01.52karolherbstmaybe you should talk about that
19:02.02AciD`I did/do
19:02.11AciD`in numerous bugs.kde.org
19:02.17AciD`which are usually ignored
19:02.19AciD`oh well
19:02.35karolherbstyeah well, you could pay developers to implement that stuff again
19:02.40AciD`I guess I cannot complain since it's open-source right? :)
19:02.48BlaXpiritcan we pay developers not to break stuff?
19:02.52AciD`hehe
19:02.55AciD`^
19:03.22karolherbstwell maybe some features just need to be ported
19:03.32karolherbstand they have a lower priotity
19:03.54karolherbstand I know that there is always more important stuff going on, so the best thing would be if you could try to add stuff you are missing
19:03.59karolherbstbest chances to get that back
19:04.02forestekde4 could change the appearance of kplash by indicating tar file or kdm and KDE in 5 of these functions is the lack of
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19:04.48karolherbstmhh to be honest, I absolutly dislike those login splash screens
19:04.56karolherbstbecause they usually hinder me to do stuff early
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19:05.06karolherbstand if something hangs, it hangs also the splash
19:05.13genstormusually you'd like to get rid of it as fast as possible
19:05.31karolherbstthe first thing I did in plasma5 was to disable the login splash :)
19:06.17karolherbstAciD`: and there you see a simple optimization by priority, beacuse the splash screen is so damn unimportant and should be rather removed in my opiniton or replaced by a fixed 1s animation if somebody really wants to have it
19:06.46genstormI'm sure some people also miss screensavers :p
19:06.57karolherbst:)
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19:07.05karolherbstthere are acutally some cool ones though
19:07.09karolherbstor were
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19:26.17AciD`so, basic session saving is low priority?
19:26.21AciD`meh
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19:31.29karolherbstAciD`: session saving? mhh I don't use it for various reasons, but none of them applies to most users
19:31.56karolherbstbut it is a pain to get it right
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20:33.44Deep_ThoughtHello, I have a small issue, when I open the kmenu and type some app name (eg dolphin) the menu does not find the app
20:33.57Deep_Thoughtrunning kde 5.4 on debian sid
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20:36.57mike-zalDeep_Thought: check out search settings. maybe searching apps is disabled
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20:39.13Deep_ThoughtAll the boxes are ticked. The search works fine for other content. It returns files, or settings
20:39.19Deep_ThoughtOnly apps are missing
20:42.46toskyDeep_Thought: Plasma 5.4 on debian testing, I can't reproduce this problem
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20:53.06karolherbsthi, I've got the problem, that the Multimedia kcm in systemsettings5 doesn't show all audio device most of the time
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21:01.22BorusAnyone having issues with dolphin accessing to sftp folders ? i have to close it and open it again really often or else it just stop working and F5 make it stuck at "loading folder"
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21:15.12mike-zalBorus: I don't use dolphin for ftp. try filezilla. dolphin may not be the best for the task.
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21:17.10Borusi wished to have some way of being able to drag&drop folders from my desktop to my phone :p
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21:57.39Fleckso, kde-open and kde-open5 opens with different application, ideas?
21:58.12FleckKDE Frameworks 5.18.0
21:58.44mefistofelesFleck: Distro?
21:58.51Fleckkubuntu/ubuntu
21:59.13mefistofelesin my case those two are provided by different packages (ArchLinux)
21:59.49Flecksame here
21:59.53Fleckkde-cli-tools: /usr/bin/kde-open5 | kde-runtime: /usr/bin/kde-open
22:00.14mefistofelesFleck: exactly
22:00.26mefistofelesso that could explain it, though I would expect them to behave equally
22:00.39Fleckexactly...
22:01.07Fleckas in file properties I have set one app to open file type, open5 ignores it
22:01.41Fleckand xdg-open uses open5 here... as it checks kde version ;(
22:01.59genstormwell, one is kde4-based, the other kf5. so it's entirely possible they behave differently
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22:08.02Zren_Hmmm. For the weather column: 16x16 Icon, Text, or scale up both the icon and text? http://i.imgur.com/oRSBnHw.png
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22:48.42AbsTradELichi all .... greetings !!
22:48.48mefistofeleshello
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22:49.02AbsTradELicmefistofeles: hello
22:49.12AbsTradELic;)
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22:50.21AbsTradELicthen .... Im having few problems using desktops in KDE
22:50.56AbsTradELicI will try to explain:
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23:30.43shanemikelis there a widget for a convenience switch in the taskbar that simultaneously disables screen locking and screensaver
23:30.47shanemikel?
23:31.55shanemikelin plasma/kde5 that is
23:35.13shanemikelalso, is all the stuff from plasma active still really active? and merged into plasma 5?  is anybody successfully running it on arm chromebooks?
23:35.20shanemikelno pun intended
23:35.22mefistofelesshanemikel: I think you can accomplish that with activities
23:36.58shanemikelis there a large base of people using kde5 on tabets and touchscreen? how important is that profile device to the kde community?
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