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00:12.40 | mayhew | Is there any way to change the font size of the clock font in the bottom right corner of Plasma 5? |
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02:47.57 | AndrzejL | anyone here knows how to stop panel from jumping from desktop primary to secondary on each reboot? |
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03:02.07 | uid1 | I have a ~/.kde and a ~/.kde4 -- can anyone explain which is for what? I've never run KDE 3 and only accidentally a few QT5 apps. |
03:02.54 | uid1 | I'm getting odd results between Kubuntu 14.04 and Manjaro with KDE 4.14 on it; not sure which folder I should remove (or which is currently being used). |
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03:10.02 | thiago | uid1: what do you have in ~/.kde? |
03:10.10 | thiago | check the file dates |
03:10.38 | thiago | the official place to store application files in KDE was ~/.kde for all versions, including KDE 4 |
03:10.49 | thiago | KF5-based applications store in ~/.local and ~/.config |
03:11.04 | thiago | ~/.kde4 is a change that some distros make, so you have to ask your distro, not us |
03:11.04 | apt | thiago: okay |
03:11.57 | uid1 | thiago: I have stuff from 2009 until today. Most recent is a socket symlink. |
03:12.20 | uid1 | I have a ~/.local and ~/.config too. Jeez. |
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03:13.08 | uid1 | Would the distro "guilty" of using ~/.kde4 be Kubuntu ? |
03:15.08 | uid1 | And ~/.local has things from today too. |
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03:21.25 | uid1 | Another question. Manjaro with KDE 4.14.5 has Remote Control in SystemSettings -> Input Devices. Works perfectly with lirc + VLC. Kubuntu 14.04 doesn't (4.13 I believe). Neither does Kubuntu 16.04. |
03:21.47 | uid1 | How would one get that feature back - Remote Control in Input Devices ? Thanks... |
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06:51.03 | zoldyck | Hi, I upgraded to KDE Apps 16.04 yesterday. Announcement says: |
06:51.04 | zoldyck | The new features include a redesign of the KAddressbook contact editor, a new default KMail Header theme, improvements to the Settings Exporter and a fix of Favicon support in Akregator. The KMail composer interface has been cleaned up along with the introduction of a new Default KMail Header Theme with the Grantlee theme used for the 'About' page in KMail as well as Kontact and Akregator. |
06:51.15 | zoldyck | [09:46:42] <zoldyck> but message headers disappeared in my KMail |
06:51.16 | zoldyck | [09:46:58] <zoldyck> menu item View -> Headers does not show the next menu level |
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06:51.18 | zoldyck | [09:47:10] <zoldyck> the app "KMail Header Theme Editor" does not show any themes and crashes on exit |
06:51.19 | zoldyck | [09:47:24] <zoldyck> not a pleasant upgrade :) |
06:51.21 | zoldyck | [09:49:07] <zoldyck> oh, and KMail crashes when I try to open a message with double click |
06:51.22 | zoldyck | [09:49:14] <zoldyck> it's a disaster :) |
06:51.24 | zoldyck | [09:49:59] <zoldyck> log_messageviewer: trying to writeMsgHeader() without a header style set! |
06:51.25 | zoldyck | [09:49:59] <zoldyck> *** KMail got signal 11 (Exiting) |
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06:52.41 | uid1 | zoldyck: Seems like KDE updates have been well and truly f#cked of late, at least in my experience. |
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06:53.34 | zoldyck | I don't know, maybe it's a packaging error |
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06:53.58 | Sho_ | we've gotten really, really positive feedback about Plasma 5.6, but I'm not really sure what's going on with PIM |
06:55.42 | zoldyck | where are those theme files? |
06:56.32 | zoldyck | theme editor expects to open a theme directory |
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07:01.40 | zoldyck | hmm, the theme editor already crashed in 15.12.3 |
07:01.48 | zoldyck | I checked on another PC |
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07:01.55 | zoldyck | different distro :) |
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08:00.52 | geodb27 | People : hi ! |
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08:03.53 | geodb27 | There are few things that are confusing with plasma 5 and the new version of all kde (I've been using kde for years now), and I would like to fill some bug reports, but I wold like to be sure about what I would ask for. May I entertain you about what I find wrong ? |
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08:10.05 | geodb27 | Well, there doesn't seem to be much people over here. I'll see later. For now, and as a sum-up : multiscreen don't work as expected (main screen change on logout/login, wallpapers are set randomly while they are set correctly, screen positions are not kep). |
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08:23.27 | flurick | geodb27: agree, also my laptops screen brightness buttons crashes both kde and gnome so not sure if those screen issues comes from some other basic packages or what |
08:24.06 | flurick | (works fine in openbox) |
08:24.30 | geodb27 | Hi fulrick ! Indeed, that's why I talk about it over here. I wouldn't like to fill in a bug report for the wrong package. |
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08:25.58 | flurick | it would just get closed and the next person would find out it was known... hopefully |
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08:32.03 | kfunk | geodb27: google your problem(s) and check if there already existing bug reports |
08:32.07 | kfunk | likely there are |
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08:47.46 | e-anima | you guys know any kde tool taht is a simple stopwatch that plays an alarm after finsihing? |
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09:03.49 | kfunk | e-anima: kteatime |
09:04.24 | kfunk | e-anima: there's also a plasma widget, called 'timer' I think |
09:04.42 | e-anima | the widget is not useful. it plays no soudn after finishing |
09:04.58 | kfunk | e-anima: you can run a command after finishing |
09:05.15 | e-anima | ok thank you |
09:05.20 | e-anima | sounds good |
09:07.49 | kfunk | e-anima: aplay /usr/share/alarmclock/ring.wav |
09:07.52 | kfunk | for a useful command :) |
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09:08.17 | kfunk | could be easier to select a sound, I agree, that's not solved nicely... |
09:08.44 | e-anima | i need to find myself some nice soudnfiles pack. |
09:08.58 | e-anima | i dont have the folder you posted :D |
09:09.25 | kfunk | e-anima: there should be lots of stuff in e.g. oxygen-sounds package |
09:09.35 | e-anima | ah ok nice |
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09:10.51 | kfunk | play /usr/share/sounds/Oxygen-Im-Phone-Ring.ogg |
09:11.18 | kfunk | e-anima: anyway: it's easier to configure in kteatime |
09:11.30 | e-anima | i take a look at it thank you |
09:11.31 | kfunk | and it already has sound notifications by default |
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09:11.43 | kfunk | uses kteatime heavily for pizza-ready notifications |
09:11.47 | kfunk | is such a nerd |
09:11.55 | e-anima | rofl. thats what i need it for too |
09:12.02 | e-anima | otherwise i get fried black brickets :D |
09:12.06 | kfunk | +1 |
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09:42.18 | alvin | What's the difference between xclock/xterm/firefox and kwrite/dolphin regarding X11Forwarding over SSH? xclock and so on works, but plasma 5 programs do not. No errors. They are just not there when launched. |
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10:05.24 | e-anima | kfunk, teatime seems nice. but who ever coded that could have allowed poeple to set a time that is mor that 59 min , 59 seconds :D |
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10:06.19 | kfunk | e-anima: arguably, there's no tea that'll steep that long ;) |
10:06.23 | e-anima | lol |
10:06.31 | e-anima | if i put my big chicken in the oven! |
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10:13.20 | kfunk | e-anima: E_NOTSUPPORTED |
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10:21.46 | teprrr | kteatime allows longer time periods, no? |
10:22.00 | teprrr | I'm using it all the time when doing laundry, making food etc. which may took longer than 60min.. :P |
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10:46.01 | e-anima | kfunk, ? context? |
10:46.31 | e-anima | teprrr, i got my version from the RCh repositorys. maybe thats an older version |
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10:55.51 | teprrr | e-anima: that can very well be. kteatime 1.3.0 says --version here |
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11:07.09 | Justice | has anyone noticed in kf5 that rightclicks on contextmenu automaticly clicks if you rightclick and drag your mouse a bit? |
11:08.08 | Justice | ie rightclick on desktop and drag mouse diagonally to the right. |
11:08.24 | Justice | triggers krunner without clicking again for me |
11:09.15 | rdieter | Justice: that's odd, but not reproducible here for me |
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11:09.43 | Justice | i wonder if it is related to polling rate |
11:09.58 | Justice | lemme check |
11:12.23 | Justice | nope |
11:13.00 | Justice | I can trigger it constantly no matter what. |
11:13.18 | Justice | try this, rightklick and move mouse right while doing so |
11:13.40 | rdieter | Justice: I did multiple times already, I just see the context menu appear |
11:15.37 | Justice | hm |
11:18.11 | Justice | rdieter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK-2atEzmsA&feature=youtu.be |
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11:30.25 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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11:39.41 | SzykCech | Justice: That can be hardware isssue. If you have bad button in the mouse then button pressing may be lost when you move mouse... |
11:40.23 | SzykCech | So it result as spurious click... |
11:40.32 | SzykCech | Is your mouse new? |
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11:49.51 | Justice | SzykCech: its not hardware issue and no |
11:50.07 | Justice | SzykCech: if you hold down rightclick and release after a while you have the same thing but intended |
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11:59.53 | computer123 | Hi ! I would like to contribute to Kde. Can someone help me get started? |
12:01.16 | rdieter | computer123: here's some pointers, https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved |
12:01.51 | computer123 | Thanks ! |
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12:19.01 | ShalokShalom_ | is there any weather widget, which works now? |
12:23.16 | Fuchs | two |
12:23.48 | Fuchs | There is the Weather Widget, which I prefer (takes data from some norwegian weather site, but it looks and acts great) and there is the official one, with Plasma 5.6 |
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12:33.23 | Uhebrybdh | http://uhebrybdh.taledar.com/ |
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12:37.37 | geodb27 | People : hi ! Does plasma save the multiscreen configuration used somewhere ? I've found that it was in krandrrc in past kde4 version, but can't find it anymore as for kde5. |
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12:40.24 | hateball | geodb27: kscreen |
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12:46.51 | geodb27 | thanks for your answer hateball. Is there any reason why there are many files in .config/share/kscreen with "strange" names (a hash I'd guess) ? |
12:47.05 | hateball | geodb27: there's a file for each screen you've connected |
12:47.31 | geodb27 | This can't be : I only have three screens and there are 4 files Oo ? |
12:47.32 | hateball | geodb27: they are plaintext files, you can read them |
12:49.11 | geodb27 | when I diff the last one with the other ones, I can't see any noticeable difference. My question would then be : why is not the last one read at system startup ? |
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12:50.17 | ShalokShalom | Fuchs: yeah, once i click on it, does it look fine |
12:50.46 | ShalokShalom | thanks :) |
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12:56.26 | hateball | geodb27: whenever I have issues with monitor settings I just kill the GUI and remove the config files and start again to let it recreate them |
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13:02.17 | yann-kaelig | where is the laptop low battery managing in kde settings ? |
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13:08.17 | ashka | hi, I cannot use anything "hot new stuff" related, e.g. fetching new themes from the internet, says "download from http://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml failed". Is this because my KDE4 setup is too old ? running 4.8.4 on debian oldstable |
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13:17.29 | bes_internal | in new kde (some beetween 4 and 15) konversation open http jpg links to image viewer not to browser. Where I will change it? |
13:18.09 | yann-kaelig | lol |
13:18.15 | yann-kaelig | that kde a total mess |
13:19.51 | yann-kaelig | how is it possible that sound is the default battery alert instead of visual alert |
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13:25.41 | Tuju | nice, some bloody "improvement" has hosed all my knotes |
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13:26.21 | Tuju | yann-kaelig: indeed, it's a fucking mess and getting worse day by day |
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13:26.56 | Tuju | yann-kaelig: i'm not sure where laptop battery management is but sure hell i have it running on my desktop. |
13:28.25 | yann-kaelig | Tuju: hi. I really thought that during all this time I will see something better, then I give a chance to reinstall kde/plasma5 on my laptop, but I think I made an really wrong choice. |
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13:30.15 | yann-kaelig | sometime I think they are developping kde from terminal and never use it |
13:30.31 | yann-kaelig | tty* |
13:35.04 | rdieter | bes_internal: systemsettings -> applications -> default applications -> webbrowser |
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13:35.42 | yann-kaelig | lol |
13:35.45 | rdieter | bes_internal: in particular, select a browser, not "in an applications based on the contents of the URL" |
13:36.11 | Tuju | yann-kaelig: that has crosesd my mind too (not using it) |
13:36.49 | Tuju | that applies to some usability issues especially. |
13:37.30 | Tuju | which is something that causes pain and you could live with it, but losing data is something that causes loss of work hours and plain money. |
13:37.48 | rdieter | yann-kaelig: maybe your distro changed it? my default notication for battery items is *both* sound and show message in popup |
13:38.00 | Tuju | i've spent countless hours with PIM shit and it just gets worse release by release |
13:38.37 | yann-kaelig | rdieter: I don't think so, I'm installating kde from source. I suppose that the default option, not sure |
13:38.55 | rdieter | yann-kaelig: I can't explain the difference then |
13:39.52 | rdieter | for *me* systemsettings -> notifications -> event source: power management, battery-low/battery-critical has both 'play a sound' and 'show message in popup' checked |
13:40.23 | rdieter | and I'm certain it's not customized from upstream defaults here either |
13:41.05 | rdieter | so, it's probably worth debugging some, before assuming where and who to blame |
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13:43.18 | yann-kaelig | rdieter: I am making a general statement, kde development is made day by day. It's really look like there is no designer, no plan, no ground. One day they do one think, another they do another and the third they removed the first think with another great idea ... |
13:43.46 | rdieter | but really, ranting based on false assumptions, is... well, silly |
13:43.57 | bes_internal | rdieter: it was the first thing I did - http://internal.by/i/screen_20160422-164229.png - and I changed and reapply this value. Konversation stil open urls depend of content |
13:44.17 | rdieter | bes_internal: restart konversation after making the change |
13:44.39 | rdieter | (I think sometimes currently running apps don't notice) |
13:44.45 | bes_internal | rdieter: hmm, one sec |
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13:46.03 | bes_internal | rdieter: nope |
13:46.26 | rdieter | yann-kaelig: I'd encourage you to peruse the kde community code of conduct |
13:46.37 | rdieter | yann-kaelig: in particular the "be respectful" section |
13:46.55 | bes_internal | rdieter: I think the new kernel is already acting on kde5, but the control is not already in the system |
13:46.56 | yann-kaelig | it's llok like they build ing a home wihtout plan and architect help. Ho! We forgot to make a hole for the window here, ok let's do it. Ho! the wall is unstable now, ok we will hang beams here, lol |
13:48.06 | rdieter | bes_internal: :( strange it works for me, sounds like a bug ... somewhere |
13:48.55 | rdieter | sorry, link, https://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/ |
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13:49.58 | yann-kaelig | rdieter: I'm not respectful when i'm giving my opinion ? thank you for your openness, they are a lot of others DE i can use. I made I mistake with kde, I can switch on other one right now. |
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13:50.46 | rdieter | yann-kaelig: you're at least implying incompetance and lack of planning |
13:51.00 | rdieter | lack of design |
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13:51.20 | yann-kaelig | yes, because this is how it's look like. |
13:51.53 | rdieter | yann-kaelig: and the CoC suggests you "assume that people mean well", clearly you didn't bother reading it (yet) |
13:51.54 | yann-kaelig | this is the tru but you don't want to hear it. You prefer to be sure you are exceptional guys |
13:52.31 | rdieter | yann-kaelig: so yeah, if you're going to base criticism based on false assumptions, then it's not welcome |
13:53.10 | rdieter | it's possible to criticize, but still be respectful and constructive |
13:53.16 | rdieter | that's what I'm suggesting |
13:53.19 | rdieter | (strongly) |
13:53.24 | yann-kaelig | no problem. Thx for you work. I will never install again kde, and never propose it to my circle. You win |
13:53.29 | yann-kaelig | good bye |
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15:22.38 | ShalokShalom | hi there |
15:23.30 | ShalokShalom | i am a bit blind, yeah, and the search bar in systemsettings wont help me as well.. where can i disable the password check, when the system wakes up from hibernation in plasma5? |
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15:25.49 | ShalokShalom | ah, got it |
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15:44.16 | khronosschoty | Does kde require plus or is there a way to not have pulse libraries |
15:44.23 | khronosschoty | pulse* |
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15:56.12 | ENOSPC | Hello, is davmail still the only way to use kontact calendar with MS office 365, or is there any better way? |
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16:04.13 | uid1 | Manjaro with KDE 4.14.5 has Remote Control in SystemSettings -> Input Devices. Works perfectly with lirc + VLC. Kubuntu 14.04 doesn't (4.13 I believe). Neither does Kubuntu 16.04. Anyone know how one would go about getting "Remote Control" in SystemSettings -> Input Devices? |
16:08.06 | uid1 | Preferably in 4.13 as I'm not ready to switch to KF5 |
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16:25.17 | Ingar | hi, I'm having the issue where plasma doesnt remember multi-monitor layout. I have to reconfigure it after every restart. I had this before and got it fixed, but I can't remember the fix |
16:26.08 | uid1 | Ingar: I had similar issue in the past, I think nvidia-settings solved it (worth a try if running Nvidia card) |
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16:26.27 | Ingar | already did that, I wrote an X.org with the correct definitions |
16:26.30 | martian67 | hello, i am having issues with spellchecking in kde apps |
16:26.33 | Ingar | sddm respects them |
16:26.48 | martian67 | i am getting an error in the console "No language dictionaries for the language: "en-CA"" |
16:27.02 | martian67 | aspell english and hunspell english dictionaries are all installed |
16:27.15 | martian67 | spell checking works fine in gtk/gnome apps |
16:27.32 | martian67 | can anyone hit me with a clue-by-four |
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16:39.44 | Ingar | uid1: forced it again through nvidia-settings (to make sure), alas it didn't work |
16:40.29 | Ingar | settings |
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17:16.23 | mayhew | Installed Kubuntu 16.04 yesterday. Noticing today that MySQL is using 837M of RAM. Any idea why it'd be using so much? It's not using any CPU. |
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17:18.28 | rdieter | mayhew: how are you measuring memory usage? |
17:20.10 | rdieter | ksysguard is good in that regard |
17:20.10 | mayhew | rdieter: it's in the RES column in htop and in the Memory column of KSysGuard |
17:20.17 | rdieter | ok |
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17:48.29 | ali_akcza | hi, after upgrade to 16.04 kde apps, have problem with kmail, dont see header in message... from, to etc |
17:48.40 | ali_akcza | in menu option view -> header dont see any options |
17:48.48 | ali_akcza | if double-clicking message from list kmail crash |
17:51.01 | genstorm | ali_akcza: missing kdepim-addons? |
17:52.17 | ali_akcza | genstorm: mhmm, dont have installed :/ |
17:52.26 | ali_akcza | ok now install on arch, thanks |
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17:54.44 | ali_akcza | genstorm: thanks, now works :) |
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17:55.33 | genstorm | double-click crash would seem to be a bug that was solved |
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18:00.33 | genstorm | ali_akcza: but only in 16.04.1 |
18:01.29 | ali_akcza | genstorm: kdepim-addons resolve doble-click too |
18:01.39 | ali_akcza | install kdepim-addons |
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21:11.11 | keithzg | Anyone ever get kde connect to work via specifying a hostname? Never seems to actually do anything for me, I add it to the custom device list but they never show up on the available devices listing. |
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22:18.29 | M3mphiZ | Im running plasma on gentoo, i would like to enable the GUI on boot, how do i do that? |
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22:29.56 | rdieter | M3mphiZ: ask your distro |
22:30.04 | rdieter | (that's not a kde question) |
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22:35.25 | BaumMitAugen | Good evening. |
22:35.37 | BaumMitAugen | I am actually no sure whether this is a KDE or distro question, so I hope this fits: |
22:35.51 | BaumMitAugen | I cannot select anything but "Analog Output" in the system settings on my soundcard, thus my |
22:35.54 | BaumMitAugen | <PROTECTED> |
22:36.26 | Fuchs | BaumMitAugen: can you open up alsamixer in a console and see if the headphones can be controlled separately? |
22:36.48 | Fuchs | or whether there is a setting (you might have to switch from pulse to the actual sound card, F6 can do that) |
22:37.13 | BaumMitAugen | Sec, gotta find out the commands |
22:37.38 | Fuchs | Alt+F2, konsole, alsamixer, F6 |
22:38.17 | BaumMitAugen | Alright, got it. (Alsamixer was not installed.) |
22:38.30 | BaumMitAugen | The "Analog" volume of the soundcard is at 100% |
22:39.12 | Fuchs | yes, do you have other things to control, though? |
22:39.26 | Fuchs | Like "Headphone" or the likes |
22:39.29 | Fuchs | you might also have switches |
22:40.14 | Fuchs | BaumMitAugen: otherwise you can do an amixer -c 0 on a konsole and place the result in a pastebin for me (not in here) |
22:40.33 | Fuchs | (which silly distribution does _not_ install alsamixer, by the way? I need to avoid that one) |
22:41.01 | BaumMitAugen | arch |
22:41.37 | Fuchs | ah, that one I avoid anyway |
22:42.06 | BaumMitAugen | http://pastebin.com/kqFWyYsJ |
22:42.31 | BaumMitAugen | That's amixer -c 2 > kwrite btw, but that's the number of the soundcard in alsamixer |
22:43.21 | BaumMitAugen | Oh, something happened when playing with the contols. |
22:43.57 | Fuchs | You could try increasing the front left and right volumes |
22:44.07 | Fuchs | they are quite low, and only rear seems active |
22:44.25 | BaumMitAugen | Ok, thanks for you help so far, "Master Front" does it |
22:44.37 | Fuchs | if that works, I suggest submitting a bug to pulseaudio with as much hardware information as you can, so they can ensure that using their volume slider controls the right channels |
22:44.58 | Fuchs | because pulse is what most things, including KDE, use these days. You could disable it, I highly discourage it |
22:45.17 | BaumMitAugen | Yes, I did install pulse. |
22:45.30 | BaumMitAugen | With phonon and vlc backend if that helps. |
22:45.51 | Fuchs | Yeah, poke them about it, chances are that the pulse master does manipulate the wrong controls on your specific sound card |
22:46.02 | Fuchs | not a KDE issue, so not much KDE can do, but pulse people should be able to fix it |
22:46.23 | Fuchs | in the meantime you can set accepatable values in alsamixer, technically kmix could also do it, but it's a bit of a pain if you usually use pulse |
22:46.25 | BaumMitAugen | Alright, gonna ask/write them. |
22:46.37 | Fuchs | amix can be used btw to control volume, so you can bind keys to it |
22:46.52 | Fuchs | *amixer |
22:47.12 | Fuchs | also: hilarious nickname |
22:47.20 | BaumMitAugen | Thanks. :) |
22:47.26 | Fuchs | you're ewlcome |
22:47.28 | Fuchs | *welcome, even |
22:48.56 | BaumMitAugen | Ok, gonna write to pulse guys and figure this amixer business out. |
22:49.10 | BaumMitAugen | Thank you very much for your help! |
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22:52.52 | Fuchs | you're welcome :) |
22:52.59 | Fuchs | amixer is simple, |
22:53.59 | Fuchs | you just need to call it with the same -c parameter as above, sset on the sID of whatever control you wanted (Front, or whatever it was) and then you can set a new value |
22:54.05 | Fuchs | it also allows delta, let me check how |
22:54.12 | BaumMitAugen | Yeah, amixer -c 2 -q sset Master 1%+ does have quite extreme effects though. 0.o |
22:54.35 | Fuchs | no % |
22:54.48 | Fuchs | it's integers, I think |
22:54.55 | Fuchs | also wasn't it "Master Front"? |
22:55.09 | BaumMitAugen | Ah, nice |
22:55.23 | BaumMitAugen | Master apparently works too. |
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22:55.40 | Fuchs | good |
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22:59.29 | BaumMitAugen | Next step: Figuring out how to tell google that I don't want to start a terminal via shortcut, but execute a command. XD |
23:02.00 | Fuchs | KDE can do that out of the box |
23:02.13 | Fuchs | go to systemsettings, keyboard shortcut, create one which executes a command, just put the amixer command there |
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23:10.31 | oneforall2 | kwrite amarok from terminal doesn't have the -v for verbose and I'd like more output so I can figure out why they aren't loading |
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23:12.03 | BaumMitAugen | Well, lowering the volume works, but raising it seems to cap at the GUI boundary. |
23:12.56 | BaumMitAugen | Unless really executed in the terminal, then it works. -.- |
23:20.20 | BaumMitAugen | Eh. close enough for now. |
23:20.28 | BaumMitAugen | Thanks again, Fuchs. |
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