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| 00:22.06 | Ben_Dover | can someone help me? i cant get cover switch task switcher to work |
| 00:22.56 | Ben_Dover | im using archlinux and the latest kde plasma |
| 00:23.49 | Zren | What specifcally doesn't work? |
| 00:25.01 | Zren | oh, it's an alt tab skin |
| 00:25.24 | Ben_Dover | well when i select the cover switch task manager i just get a different type of task manager, im not sure whcih one, but it isnt cover switch |
| 00:25.41 | Zren | did you click apply? |
| 00:25.43 | Ben_Dover | yes |
| 00:28.14 | Zren | works fine for me in kde neon, plasma 5.6.4 |
| 00:28.20 | Zren | hmmm |
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| 00:30.53 | Zren | though a bunch don't work after I click apply |
| 00:31.04 | Zren | but all of them are previewable. |
| 00:31.05 | Zren | weird |
| 00:31.09 | Ben_Dover | neither cover nor flip switch work for me |
| 00:31.17 | Zren | try relogging? |
| 00:31.58 | Ben_Dover | i have |
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| 00:39.01 | Ben_Dover | also wobbly windows doesnt work |
| 00:42.04 | Ben_Dover | oh ok i figured it out, for some reason my compositor was using the xrendr backend, i switched to glx and it works now |
| 00:44.36 | Ben_Dover | though for some reason cover swicth only shows windows from my first virtual desktop, even though i have no filters set |
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| 00:46.31 | Ben_Dover | brb |
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| 01:57.12 | abhishek | hi |
| 01:57.43 | abhishek | I am using kde 5.6.4. Is there any way to get an system tray icon for Spotify |
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| 02:12.17 | thiago | abhishek: that depends. Does Spotify use the old, deprecated XEmbed protocol? Or does it use the new one? |
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| 02:14.13 | abhishek | thiago, sry no idea. The package name is spotify-client(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spotify) |
| 02:18.58 | abhishek | thiago, is there any I can check about the protocol. I will be happy to do it. |
| 02:25.25 | abhishek | Found this suggestion http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/xembed_back which links to this code https://github.com/davidedmundson/xembed-sni-proxy |
| 02:26.31 | abhishek | But the code mentions "Code is merged in plasma-workspace". Is there something I am missing here? |
| 02:34.18 | thiago | abhishek: most likely, it uses the old protocol |
| 02:34.25 | thiago | make sure you're running xembedsniproxy |
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| 02:46.17 | abhishek | thiago, thanks for the reply. I am unaware what is xembedsniproxy? Is it a package I should install? |
| 02:47.48 | thiago | it's a program that embeds the old protocol (xembed) into the new (sni) |
| 02:48.17 | abhishek | thiago, please this http://paste.ubuntu.com/17282299/ |
| 02:48.40 | abhishek | it seems to be running |
| 02:48.57 | thiago | yes |
| 02:49.00 | thiago | then I don't know |
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| 02:51.09 | abhishek | ohk thanks anyways. |
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| 03:17.24 | Mejestoad | Whenever I go to unlock widgets the entire system freezes and KDE reloads... Any help would be greatly appreciated! |
| 03:25.34 | Zren | ... What widgets are you using? |
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| 03:30.29 | Mejestoad | hrm seems to have fixed itself |
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| 03:51.55 | Zren | That's... good? |
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| 06:26.56 | ken_fallon | leszek: Thanks the xrandr --auto worked ! |
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| 06:57.02 | jasonvw | So kscreen saves xrandr "profiles" interfacing with dbus for event detection. Is that right?. Now, if I disconnect (or connect) a monitor nothing happens, so I go to run xrandr to check out the status, and at that point kscreen sets everything right. I don't actually make changes with xrandr; it just seems the act of listing the outputs somehow "rriggers" kscreen to do its thing. |
| 06:59.01 | jasonvw | (I'm super tired, please forgive the typos) Has anyone seen this type of issue? |
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| 07:17.45 | ken_fallon | jasonvw: I see it all the time - which is why the xrandr --auto was needed. Unfortunately I have no idea how it works. |
| 07:18.40 | jasonvw | hmm |
| 07:21.06 | jasonvw | When does that need to be invoked? |
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| 07:22.08 | jasonvw | and do you use that in conjunction with kscreen or on its own ken_fallon? |
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| 07:38.12 | einar77_work | jasonvw: which Qt version are you using? |
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| 07:39.30 | jasonvw | einar77_work: Qt 5.6.0 (x86_64-little_endian-lp64 shared (dynamic) release build; by GCC 6.1.1 20160501) on "xcb" |
| 07:40.52 | einar77_work | ok, so good enough |
| 07:41.18 | einar77_work | jasonvw: I ask because I do get auto-arrangement if I plug/unplug screens here |
| 07:41.29 | einar77_work | (i.e. kscreen reacts to the screen change event) |
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| 07:47.24 | jasonvw | Yeah, nothing much seems to happen until I invoke xrandr |
| 07:47.41 | jasonvw | xrandr --auto does nto seem to be doing it, unless I'm using it wrong |
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| 07:54.33 | bernhard | hi, where do I have to store the `normalview.html` grantlee theme so akregator loads it? |
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| 08:06.09 | Walex | jasonvw: that whole area of "automagic" is full of poorly underthought misdesigns, so don't expect much. |
| 08:06.35 | Walex | jasonvw: thank the "genius" of Keith Packard for a lot of that. |
| 08:07.36 | jasonvw | heh |
| 08:08.47 | Walex | in general "geniuses" don't bother to cramp their style with fuddy-duffy old fashioned concepts like state machines and race condition avoidance :-). |
| 08:09.31 | jasonvw | Still though, it bothers me this is so close to working. |
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| 08:10.00 | Walex | jasonvw: it worked well for a demo, that's all it needs to do :-) |
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| 08:12.40 | Walex | jasonvw: in general in programming there are two recognized categories: "creative geniuses" who are heroes of programming who are not constrained by past-century notions of robustness and flexibility, and "bulk headcount" to do the tedious legwork of fixing things that worked once for a demo :-) |
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| 08:15.07 | Walex | the "creative genius" heroes at freedesktop.org surely don't want to be mistaken for "bulk headcount" nobodies :-). |
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| 08:15.25 | oneforall2 | how can I get kde to quit asking for the wifi password? I am using wicd or network manager .. |
| 08:16.00 | oneforall2 | I think tat is kwallet and I do not want to use that |
| 08:16.44 | Walex | jasonvw: the other issue is that a lot of "automagic" relies on reliable implementation of complex negotiation protocols by peripherals, and the firmware in most peripherals is done as quickly as possible by the lowest bidder in shenzen. |
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| 08:17.13 | einar77_work | jasonvw: the underlying issue is not fixable because X11 is so async it's hard to do it right |
| 08:17.17 | nadley | hi all |
| 08:17.38 | einar77_work | jasonvw: that said, Plasma 5.7 comes with some fixes for potential race conditions |
| 08:17.38 | jasonvw | heh Walex. Well while :; do xrandr>/dev/null; sleep 1; done will work. If I can find a way to call that on conection of a monitor or something |
| 08:17.53 | einar77_work | s/comes/will come (beta out this Thursday) |
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| 08:18.07 | jasonvw | ahh okay |
| 08:18.46 | hiddenhand | oneforall2, i think if your kwallet and user passwd is the same, you can automatically login kwallet |
| 08:19.00 | jasonvw | I'll hack something together if 5.7 doesn't fix it. |
| 08:20.35 | jasonvw | Danke schoen everyone |
| 08:20.56 | jasonvw | Need to sleep though. Later. |
| 08:21.39 | oneforall2 | I don't want to use it at all or have it bug me when connecting to the net with the usb wireless |
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| 09:05.31 | Alloysious | Greetings - I was wondering if anyone might enlighten me as per the logic frameworks vs plasma and if they must be updated in lockstep? or in other words are new KF5 backwards compatible for older plasma? |
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| 09:16.26 | pandark | hi |
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| 09:17.32 | pandark | what is the best linux distribution for testing plasma5 ? |
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| 09:22.05 | pandark | open suse ? |
| 09:27.38 | JyZyXEL | pandark: i think this was created for the purpose: https://neon.kde.org/download |
| 09:29.19 | JyZyXEL | though it uses a very non-free base distro |
| 09:30.54 | einar77_work | it's not an official KDE distribution |
| 09:31.05 | einar77_work | it's made by KDE contributors, but not "officially sanctioned" |
| 09:31.19 | einar77_work | KDE wants to stay distro-agnostic |
| 09:31.42 | einar77_work | but for the latest, you have baiscally two choices at the moment: Neon and openSUSE |
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| 09:34.27 | pandark | ok thank your JyZyXEL & einar77_work |
| 09:34.31 | pandark | -r |
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| 11:02.13 | nemysis | hello i use now in openSUSE zypper in kontact5 korganizer5 kaddressbook5 akregator5 knotes5 akonadi5 kdepim have QT5 and forget to install newest |
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| 11:03.44 | nemysis | now must reboot best to use QT5 apps |
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| 11:40.08 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 12:10.32 | nemysis | hi BluesKaj |
| 12:11.08 | prago_1 | is it possible to "rename" the dolphine sidebar-entries for e.g. smb-shares.. they are named e.g. "share on 192.168.100.10" ? |
| 12:11.33 | hateball | prago_1: rightclick and edit? |
| 12:11.52 | prago_1 | this does not exist |
| 12:12.44 | prago_1 | I mean under the "Devices" section |
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| 12:29.23 | pandark | hi |
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| 12:30.11 | pandark | i found a little bug on neon: global shortcut keep in qwerty |
| 12:30.31 | pandark | i use azerty layout keyboard |
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| 12:31.39 | leszek | pandark: did you check bugs.kde.org if this was reported already ? If not feel free to make a detail report on what you did and what does not work as expected please |
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| 12:40.43 | nadley | is Neon usable every day ? |
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| 12:45.30 | BluesKaj | hey nemysis |
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| 13:48.08 | fullstop | Hi all. Are there any known significant memory leaks in plasmashell 5.6.4? If I leave my desktop locked for a day or two, the OOM killer whacks plasmashell. I have 8GB of memory and not much running when this happens. |
| 13:48.17 | fullstop | kwin compositing is off. |
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| 15:06.46 | D-rex | anyone else having this issue? |
| 15:07.33 | D-rex | Happens when I try to view files on phone. I can ping phone and receive notifications |
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| 16:44.36 | Maws | Hi, Not sure if it's KDE's fault, but have to start somewhere - I have random "freezes" that seem to happen when launching applications (also random), the mouse can still be moved, but I can't click anything, and last launched application isn't fully starting, I can still jump to VT1 and restart sddm and up and running again - Any tips ? |
| 16:48.11 | rdieter_work | Maws: in my experience, such freezing can be an indication of video driver issues |
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| 16:49.37 | rdieter_work | (but hard to say for sure, without detailed debugging, which often isn't fun or easy) |
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| 16:57.56 | cb400f | Maws: always a good idea to try and toggle desktop effects off and see if it helps |
| 16:58.21 | cb400f | if it does... then figure out the specific effect that doesn't agree with your gfxdriver and disable that particular effect |
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| 17:01.47 | Maws | can I turn off every desktop effect as in "off" from one central place, or do I have to do it individualy ? |
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| 17:02.32 | Maws | I'v seen "Kwin" have crashed with an error message from time to time - but not sure if this is related as it generally doesn't freeze at the time of error message. |
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| 17:03.09 | Maws | I have only built in intel skylake graphics - any known issues ? |
| 17:03.09 | cb400f | Maws: alt+shift+f12 to toggle them off temporarily |
| 17:03.33 | Maws | ok, thnx |
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| 17:03.37 | cb400f | I think there are some issues regardless which driver you have :-/ |
| 17:03.48 | Maws | ahh, ok |
| 17:05.11 | cb400f | to disable effects fully it's systemsettings -> screen -> compositor |
| 17:05.33 | Maws | is there any logs anywhere that might point to what is going on ? |
| 17:05.58 | cb400f | maybe ~/.xsession-errors ... not sure |
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| 17:07.06 | Maws | Do I just turn off the "Enable compositor on startup" to disable them all then or ? |
| 17:08.08 | Maws | it does at least seem that I now can start more applications than I'v been able to lately (after doing that alt+shift+f12) |
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| 19:22.04 | akaisora | hello, I have a problem when I start KDE, default application appearence is gtk |
| 19:22.47 | akaisora | when I changed them from system settings to oxygen it affects only currently open windows , restarting the app will cause it to appear again in GTK |
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| 20:02.01 | orwin | So have you guys tried out KDE Neon? What do you think about it? So far it's working great here, though I'm having a few glitches with Kwin. |
| 20:02.40 | Zren | what kind of glitches? |
| 20:04.25 | rdieter_work | (I suspect it's more glitches with video drivers, rather than kwin itself) |
| 20:05.01 | Zren | like, the entire screen insn't updating all at once? |
| 20:05.12 | Zren | vsync problems? |
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| 20:09.21 | orwin | I have a laptop with Intel + NVIDIA using opensource nouveau drivers. For instance when I open mpv the compositor is disabled, when I close the window the compositor is back but glitchy. |
| 20:09.28 | orwin | Here's a video demonstration: https://sendvid.com/8fogjk8p# |
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| 20:11.07 | orwin | Yeah I guess you could say that, the screen isn't updating all at once |
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| 20:17.49 | Zren | write a kwin rule to force the compositor to stay enabled |
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| 20:19.44 | Zren | https://i.imgur.com/f7RLNnE.png Block Compositing > Force > No |
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| 20:21.45 | Zren | which compositor are you using? |
| 20:22.02 | Zren | systemsettings > display > Compositor |
| 20:22.46 | orwin | Thank you very much, I didn't know about that. I'll follow your instruction |
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| 20:41.11 | user512 | Hi, I just stumbled over "Plasma Mobile", but it seems kinda stalled. Is the project still active? |
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| 21:11.21 | mike-zal | user512: hard to say but there is no word that it's ended so I assume it just goes slowly |
| 21:15.06 | tosky | the work is definitely ongoing (look for "kiriki") |
| 21:15.22 | tosky | and most of the work for the desktop is good for mobile too (especially for kwin) |
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| 21:16.03 | Zren | Anyone know where to detect/configure mouse buttons? |
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| 21:23.06 | Zren | so weird |
| 21:23.30 | Zren | I had to use xbindkeys to bind m:0x200 to "xdotool click 3" |
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