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| 05:44.48 | kotten | Hello my plasmashell takes 145-155 CPU and Xorg 70-80 not doing anything special. Are there any good way to debug this? |
| 05:44.48 | kotten | Never had problems before but now the mouse is becoming unresponsive and text is "buffering" while I write this |
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| 05:47.47 | kotten | Maybe I should take this in #plasma |
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| 09:31.01 | goldkatze | Hi :-) |
| 09:33.19 | goldkatze | KMail doesn't fetch any mail; I click [Check Mail], the progress bar appears down-right, but nothing is received; this, despite knowing for certain there actually is quite some mail on the server by now. |
| 09:33.28 | goldkatze | Using version 5.2.3; any suggestions? |
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| 09:35.32 | Taoki | Does anyone else experience icons in the system tray being larger, after the update from Plasma 2.7.0 to 2.7.2? I can't get them to be small again... |
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| 09:38.43 | shtrb | goldkatze , try connecting to the internt using wifi or network manager |
| 09:39.23 | shtrb | Solid might be thinkning you do not have internet access |
| 09:41.40 | leszek | Taoki: this was fixed in 5.7.3 |
| 09:41.56 | Taoki | leszek: Oh... ok. Will just wait then |
| 09:42.08 | goldkatze | Well -- I'm here, so I'm connected to the Internet. I'm also using connman, so there's that. |
| 09:42.11 | Taoki | Good to know, was worried it might stay permanent and not have been noticed |
| 09:42.20 | goldkatze | shtrb: It's still using solid at 5.2.3? o.O |
| 09:42.22 | goldkatze | Goddamn⦠|
| 09:43.32 | shtrb | goldkatze , it's actually a regration I'm searching for workaround about it , trying even setting up a tun device to make it understand it is connected to the system |
| 09:44.02 | shtrb | the only apps akonadi is ok with (that I know of0 are wpa_supplicant , network manager and wicd |
| 09:44.26 | goldkatze | Well. It's not in that state, either. That Solid-detection was somewhat broken in earlier versions, but it does ask for my passwords, so I dont expect it to be in offline-mode |
| 09:44.26 | shtrb | I also tried looking in the code but I failed to find the interactions with the kernel netlink interface |
| 09:45.47 | goldkatze | shtrb: This did the trick for me in earlier versions: http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?c5107cd7cea26f70#Rkiq6oLD6cST1BnLBEOL1amCrXNK5fg+3wFDiZkm9Y0= |
| 09:46.04 | goldkatze | Does not appear to be necessary now, though. |
| 09:46.20 | goldkatze | shtrb: Forces Solid to switch to 'online' |
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| 09:46.45 | shtrb | that does not work :-( |
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| 09:47.27 | goldkatze | shtrb: Well, it's targeted at 4.14.10 or so, you likely need to adapt that |
| 09:47.37 | shtrb | It can't work (because it should be probabaly org.kde.kded5 ) |
| 09:48.13 | shtrb | WTF it worked |
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| 09:48.44 | shtrb | mother of @#R@ why does it work now |
| 09:49.38 | goldkatze | :-) |
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| 09:50.48 | shtrb | nah , I knew It can't be that easy |
| 09:50.54 | shtrb | failed as usual |
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| 09:51.50 | goldkatze | shtrb: As far as I recall, there's a different mechanism at work for this sort of detection with the 5. series |
| 09:52.28 | shtrb | ye , one that does not like people who don't use network manger or wicd |
| 09:52.51 | goldkatze | No, that's been true with 4. alrady; go ask #akonadi, they'll know |
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| 09:53.31 | shtrb | That issues bumps between #kde , #kontact and #akonadi |
| 09:53.31 | shtrb | in a loop |
| 10:00.03 | goldkatze | â¦or you can go on complaining :-) |
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| 10:01.08 | shtrb | there is an extra thing , to see why the ppp_generic kernel driver is not treated as the other and fix that |
| 10:01.14 | shtrb | *one extra thing |
| 10:01.27 | shtrb | it is easier to build a kernel module than to fix that issue :) |
| 10:02.16 | shtrb | goldkatze, that is like with search option that is not working anymore we just move to using grep |
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| 10:03.00 | shtrb | soon I will just go back to mutt and that is it |
| 10:03.04 | lacrymology | I'm trying to set up languages, and I'm not being able to switch between them |
| 10:03.43 | lacrymology | I need english, spanish and japanese. For japanese I want to use Mozc+fctix |
| 10:04.33 | lacrymology | I've set them up as input methods in "system settings -> input methods", I have Keyboard - English (US) + Mozc + Keyboard - Spanish (Latin America) |
| 10:04.41 | lacrymology | but I can't seem to be able to switch between them |
| 10:05.21 | lacrymology | fcitx |
| 10:06.06 | lacrymology | as keyboard layout I have english only |
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| 10:09.58 | goldkatze | shtrb: Am sad to admit to actually be moving away, too, to icedove/iceowl/sogo |
| 10:11.38 | shtrb | I had a nice exerpiance with icedove in the past , didn't use it for a very long period of time |
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| 10:16.28 | goldkatze | shtrb: Similar here; haven't used it around one dozen years, set it up again recently, because Kalendar would be messing with my caldav-dates (environment: horde server, davdroid clients, plus desktop: kalendar/iceowl-sogo). Seemed like the only reasonable alternative for a pim suite similarly integrated than kontact (mail/addressbook/calendar) |
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| 10:45.09 | lacrymology | what's the keyboard shortcut name for cycling between windows of the same app? |
| 10:47.30 | goldkatze | lacrymology: see yourself: Systemsettings5 --> Workspace --> Shortcuts --> Global Shortcuts --> KWin |
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| 10:51.10 | lacrymology | goldkatze: I don't have kwin there, I found that setting in settings/window mnaager/task switcher, but I'm not being able to fix my issue |
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| 10:52.40 | goldkatze | Well. With kwin, default is Alt+` or Alt+~, afaik, and can be found/changed as indicated. If that doesnt help, go ask in #your-wm , hm? :) |
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| 10:59.22 | shtrb | goldkatze , can you elborate about the date mess ? |
| 10:59.39 | shtrb | I havely relay on it , and don't wish to learn it screwd some dates |
| 11:04.23 | goldkatze | shtrb: on cyanogenmod, using etar to make a calendar entry in a caldav resource; that resource is synced to horde server by davdroid. then, I used kontact/kalendar to sync with horde. however, kalendar would shift all time-zones to utc or sth like that; dont recall exactly. all times were off by a few hours, due to timezone messup. |
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| 11:05.00 | shtrb | ah |
| 11:05.01 | shtrb | ok |
| 11:05.39 | goldkatze | Or --not sure-- it happened the other way around: I'd create a new calendar entry in kontact/kalendar, but it ends up timezone-shifted on android; unless I manually explicitly select the timezone in kontact/kalendar each and every single time i create/edit an entry (which is asking for troubleâ¦) |
| 11:06.31 | shtrb | I was using owncloud , thankfully didn't get into that kind of trouble |
| 11:07.06 | goldkatze | I recall manually setting it every time on the desktop solved (part of) the issue, and though there's not been a way to preset/predefine a default or similar. that's been with 4.14.10, though, which was default of Debian Testing until very recently. |
| 11:07.40 | shtrb | it was the last working kontact version (I think) |
| 11:07.55 | shtrb | if only the bugs would be fixed |
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| 11:10.08 | goldkatze | Yeah, well. Didnt get the not-fetching-mail (see above) fixed by now, so I'm just now in the middle of migrating what's left to thunderbird/lightning/sogo which can't do all I whish it would, but rather sth is missing, than everything just works theoretically or unreliably⦠well. :-) |
| 11:10.55 | genstorm | goldkatze: akonadi not fetching might be the multiple-merge-candidates issue |
| 11:10.59 | shtrb | but did you file a bug |
| 11:11.06 | shtrb | ? |
| 11:11.08 | shtrb | hi genstorm |
| 11:11.15 | goldkatze | genstorm: Please elaborate |
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| 11:12.08 | genstorm | goldkatze: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338658 |
| 11:12.38 | adroit_machine | The plus icon to select multiple files in dolphin has somehow disappeared,anybody know how to get it back |
| 11:12.53 | genstorm | it happens with particular imap servers and seems to be particularly bad if you use filtering |
| 11:13.09 | goldkatze | shtrb: I need my mail, now; I'm not going to file a bug report, just cause kdepim yetagain refuses to do the very basics of its job while being utterly undebugable. not in the mood for eternal limbo, want sth that just works, compare to your own reasoning with mutt/grep/⦠|
| 11:13.44 | shtrb | goldkatze, I'm not a kontact affiliated dev ... |
| 11:13.46 | goldkatze | genstorm: No, that's not it. There's no error message anywhere, plus there's not even imap involved in most account cases (short-term accounts) |
| 11:13.46 | genstorm | so if one of the SQL queries yields a result (shows duplicates) it is the same problem |
| 11:13.56 | genstorm | ok then |
| 11:14.23 | goldkatze | genstorm: Thanks for the suggestion, though |
| 11:14.25 | goldkatze | appreciate it |
| 11:14.59 | shtrb | goldkatze, I think the product it is in end of life period (I think I have seen some posts saying a new thing is being developed some time ago) |
| 11:15.05 | goldkatze | shtrb: I didnt think you were |
| 11:15.25 | genstorm | shtrb: http://famillemontel.org/index.php/2016/01/29/kdepimkmail-is-not-dead/ |
| 11:15.28 | shtrb | sorry , I miss read that |
| 11:16.31 | goldkatze | Would have surprised me, they put quite some work into it. |
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| 11:17.28 | shtrb | genstorm , well if I 'm having problems fetching mails or search for them (have to use grep to find emails , or to jump in the air and slay a sheep on a volcano just to make it fetch mails )it is kind of in it a dying state (not dead yet but still) |
| 11:18.24 | shtrb | just look the experiance of me , goldkatze, the guy from yesterday |
| 11:18.50 | genstorm | shtrb: this is just me telling you that the 'new thing' is not a planned replacement for kontact |
| 11:18.51 | shtrb | in one day two users come to this very channel to search for workaround |
| 11:19.29 | shtrb | yes , not planned to be a replacement , but the other product seem to be not working |
| 11:19.42 | genstorm | akonadi is the problem no.1 |
| 11:19.51 | shtrb | sorry , on a further read that sound too harsh |
| 11:20.00 | genstorm | shtrb: although search is usually really working well so your issue is odd |
| 11:20.07 | shtrb | not only mine |
| 11:20.23 | shtrb | also reported over #debian-kde and here yesterday by different users |
| 11:20.47 | genstorm | shtrb: it may be a debian issue |
| 11:20.59 | shtrb | similar issues either no resuls at all (like for me) or unpredictable results (irrelevent to search criteria) |
| 11:21.12 | shtrb | genstorm , can you see if the Search option work for you ? |
| 11:21.19 | shtrb | (unless you are on debian ofc) |
| 11:21.51 | genstorm | it hasn't let me down so far (using Gentoo) |
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| 11:22.08 | goldkatze | May be, same here: Debian Testing, no pinning of funky stuff, akonadi search been broken or half-broken ever since akonadi; vast mINority of times it worked as should be. |
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| 11:23.01 | shtrb | genstorm , are you telling me that on your kontact when you click on S and write something it give you results ? |
| 11:23.17 | shtrb | do you have indexing , baloo, or any extra tool to enable it ? |
| 11:23.44 | shtrb | goldkatze ,my issues are on sid(16.04) |
| 11:23.48 | goldkatze | shtrb: With clean KUbuntu-LTS, fetching mail usually worked, just as the most basic search (Subject/From) does, for all versions pushed to said distro |
| 11:24.11 | shtrb | intersting |
| 11:24.24 | shtrb | what is the version there ? |
| 11:24.32 | shtrb | kontact and akonadi |
| 11:25.28 | goldkatze | shtrb: Currently, no idea. I manage some of those, dont use myself. There haven't comparable been any issues with them so far, though, ever since akonadi was introduced. |
| 11:25.42 | goldkatze | While on debian testing it's been a mess. |
| 11:28.55 | goldkatze | Just recall akonadi-cache blew once, long ago. Could rebuild it, though, no damage done. The delay with filtering junk/sorting to folders and the perculiarity of msgs disappearing from "unread only" results lists, as soon as clicked (aka switched to read-state), without manually re-issuing the searchtask, causes confusion, but is not a bug per se. Filter-upon-fetch was broken for a version or two, could script around that easily for the time being. |
| 11:29.35 | Leoneof | is there QtCurve for gtk3? or even breeze, oxygen..etc? |
| 11:29.52 | goldkatze | shtrb: tl;dr, kdepim seems way better on kubuntu-lts than it does on debian-testing. |
| 11:30.17 | redeyedman | Leoneof: heey |
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| 11:30.40 | Leoneof | redeyedman: hey!!!!!! |
| 11:30.53 | redeyedman | Leoneof: why you are still using kde? |
| 11:31.20 | Leoneof | redeyedman: it's running very smooth recently, no crashs :] |
| 11:31.36 | genstorm | shtrb: it works out of the box |
| 11:31.44 | genstorm | I don't have to enable anything |
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| 11:32.52 | shtrb | :-/ |
| 11:33.05 | redeyedman | Leoneof: you mean shiny new KF5/Plasma5? |
| 11:33.16 | shtrb | genstorm , perhaps I sacrfised the goat the wrong gods |
| 11:33.21 | Leoneof | redeyedman: yep! |
| 11:33.28 | shtrb | *for the wrong gods |
| 11:34.03 | genstorm | shtrb: Debian being the false gods, you mean? :p |
| 11:34.05 | redeyedman | Leoneof: but I have plasma5 crashes when doing search in kmenu |
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| 11:34.25 | shtrb | genstorm , KDE :P I'm on sid for a very long period of time |
| 11:34.39 | Leoneof | redeyedman: what's your kde5 version? :] |
| 11:34.47 | genstorm | there is no kde5 |
| 11:34.53 | Leoneof | right |
| 11:34.55 | Leoneof | u_u |
| 11:35.00 | Leoneof | plasma5 |
| 11:35.41 | redeyedman | 5.7.0 |
| 11:36.02 | redeyedman | on gentoo |
| 11:36.21 | genstorm | redeyedman: that would be strange since Gentoo has 5.7.3 already |
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| 11:37.01 | Leoneof | redeyedman: 5.6.5 , it's great! |
| 11:37.07 | redeyedman | genstorm: I did not synced |
| 11:37.26 | goldkatze | shtrb: You might just be missing some packages, if all is fine but search doesn't work. |
| 11:37.44 | genstorm | redeyedman: if you get bugs on a .0 release, first thing you do is update to the latest point release... |
| 11:37.52 | shtrb | I might be missing more bugs :) |
| 11:38.41 | shtrb | golfkatze, I droped filtering a while ago , send/recieve have it's issues and now search has problems |
| 11:38.46 | Leoneof | redeyedman: create new user, and check for crash |
| 11:39.21 | redeyedman | ok, I do update to 5.7.3 first |
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| 14:52.38 | Zren | ah you're here this time. Mmmk. Settings > Config Dolphin > General > Show selection marker |
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| 18:08.16 | mva_ | I found strange behaviour: if I set Graphic effects engine to XRender, then plasmashell's panel gets transparency in some themes. But all other effects going to be disabled. And If I set it to OpenGL 2.0/3.1 â all effects start working, but panel is not transparent in any theme :( |
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| 18:20.31 | xmorph | hi, my cpu is at 100% when copying/moving files and everything is buggy :/ i have founded that someone have same problem but no answer https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=135249 |
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| 18:36.53 | somebody | Hey. Is there a way to set numbers for the windows size to be visible, like while resizing Konsole, for all KDE applications? |
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| 19:39.34 | tessio_ | hi |
| 19:40.12 | rindolf | tessio_: hi |
| 19:40.21 | tessio_ | any distro commited to release KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS point releases until 2018? |
| 19:40.29 | tessio_ | *is any |
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| 20:22.37 | cb400f | tessio_: opensuse leap 42.2 (due for release in November) will come close to that |
| 20:23.14 | cb400f | at least it'll do it for 18 months.. then you'll need to upgrade |
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| 21:32.32 | foormea | hi. is there a way with kde to adjust a laptop's screen brightness with more granularity than the default laptop key combinations? xfce's screen brightness system tray tool can offer more precision in screen brightness than what i've found so far with kde (only keyboard key combinations) |
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| 21:36.00 | SirDeiu | foormea: there's the Battery and Brightness in system tray |
| 21:36.17 | SirDeiu | there you can adjust by a slider |
| 21:37.57 | foormea | actually let me rephrase my question, after just downloading a brightness plasmoid: how could i change the granularity (e.g. +/- 3% instead of +/- 10%) of the key combinations for brightness +/- ? |
| 21:38.06 | foormea | but thanks for your answer SirDeiu |
| 21:40.30 | foormea | http://askubuntu.com/questions/103249/how-to-increase-brightness-in-smaller-steps suggests to use xbacklight, i'll try that |
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| 21:41.34 | Zren | foormea, there's 20 steps (+-5%) right? |
| 21:41.42 | foormea | mh no it doesn't help :) i think i'll need to look somewhere in kde's files |
| 21:41.54 | foormea | 10 steps here |
| 21:41.58 | Zren | ah nvm |
| 21:42.02 | foormea | +/- 10% |
| 21:42.06 | SirDeiu | foormea: it also suggests that the actual steps are hw dependent |
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| 21:43.07 | SirDeiu | pressing Fn + bright I count 20 steps |
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| 21:43.29 | foormea | yeah, i understand. but in my very case, the slider or xbacklight let me adjust with far more precision than key combinations |
| 21:43.52 | foormea | it has to be defined somewhere that key combo defaults to +/- 10% -- just need to find where :) |
| 21:44.18 | foormea | mh mh |
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| 21:50.34 | SirDeiu | foormea: you can do a echo 100 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness and just assign a global shortcut key |
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| 21:52.55 | SirDeiu | foormea: see here for more info http://askubuntu.com/questions/150166/change-the-brightness-adjustment-interval |
| 21:53.10 | SirDeiu | screen brightness 17 this is quite nice :) |
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| 21:54.52 | foormea | let me see. i'm thinking that i should locate the default action for XF86MonBrightnessUp and XF86MonBrightnessDown or create an override rule somewhere |
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| 21:56.09 | foormea | mh mh but yeah |
| 21:56.59 | foormea | your link is interesting, i'll give it a try |
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| 21:58.59 | foormea | "KDE's keyboard Brightness Up and Brightness Down key handling code has increment value of 10% hard-coded. Hence, unless you want to mess with building KDE from sources, there's nothing you can do with it." |
| 21:59.01 | foormea | grrr |
| 21:59.26 | SirDeiu | foormea: your question was interesting and I've learned something from it also |
| 21:59.36 | SirDeiu | krunner is beast |
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| 22:03.17 | foormea | okay great: |
| 22:03.17 | foormea | http://askubuntu.com/questions/150166/change-the-brightness-adjustment-interval |
| 22:03.48 | foormea | ctrl-f "This is what I've done, and it works a lot better for me" |
| 22:03.48 | foormea | just need to have xbacklight installed. working great |
| 22:09.27 | SirDeiu | nice |
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| 22:18.44 | foormea | alright. have a good day/night and thanks for your help |
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| 22:26.32 | SirDeiu | foormea: you too |
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