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| 01:39.01 | chet | is there some sort of monitor limit ? |
| 01:39.49 | chet | I cannot get 4 monitors to work with randr with kde4 to plasma 5.7 |
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| 01:41.12 | nukke | what GPU? what drivers? what exactly happens? |
| 01:41.44 | chet | It always kicks one monitor out |
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| 01:42.28 | chet | I have onboard ati 4200HD and gt 720 pcie |
| 01:42.59 | chet | the board can start both cards as well |
| 01:43.38 | chet | the 720 can display three screen with fully resizable windows per screen |
| 01:44.42 | nukke | are you using bumblebee? |
| 01:44.48 | chet | the onboard can do both dvi and hdmi similtaneously |
| 01:45.27 | chet | and I can get picture on both boards similtaneously |
| 01:46.50 | chet | nukke: isnt bumblebee like laptop? |
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| 01:48.22 | chet | I know its not a comparison but all monitors work similtaneously under windows 7 |
| 01:48.31 | chet | so the hardware is capable |
| 01:49.41 | chet | it will always kick one monitor out no matter how I try to hook them up |
| 01:50.53 | chet | I thinking of figuring out how to write a xorg.conf again but is this still even a thing? |
| 01:51.13 | chet | I ve made them in the past |
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| 01:51.59 | chet | I tried use kde neon as well but the install fails |
| 01:52.20 | chet | since it has plasma 5.8 |
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| 01:58.54 | chet | bbl |
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| 07:07.44 | esc_type | stardiviner: edit ~/.config/kwinrc in section [ModifierOnlyShortcuts] Meta= |
| 07:10.20 | stardiviner | esc_type: How I need to logout KDE session to make effect? |
| 07:11.52 | esc_type | stardiviner: probably restarting kwin would do, logout if you want |
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| 08:25.07 | Unbeerable | Hi. I have a strange problem with the digital clock plasmoid after reboot (and probably upgrade) on two different PCs with Fedora24. My 'date' command shows correct time, but plasmoid shows wrong |
| 08:25.28 | Unbeerable | I didn't change any settings. I tried to play with timezones but it doesn't help |
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| 08:26.05 | Unbeerable | where does plasmoid get the list of TZs? is it system one or QT has its own list? |
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| 08:27.44 | Unbeerable | I had to switch from my TZ to the common UTC+04:00, now it works, but I can't understand why it doesn't work when using system TZ (which is Europe/Samara) |
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| 08:38.31 | Fuchs | Unbeerable: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370149 |
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| 08:52.16 | Andrew_K | Fuchs: i had the same problem, on 16.04 kubuntu, then i upgraded to 16.10 with plasma 5.7.5 and that problem gone |
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| 08:53.16 | Fuchs | Andrew_K: I don't have it, that link was for Unbeerable, as it was prefixed |
| 08:53.44 | Andrew_K | oh, i see now |
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| 08:55.28 | Andrew_K | Fuchs: first i tought that it was unbearable for you :D |
| 08:55.43 | Andrew_K | now i can see that it's nick name :D |
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| 09:16.22 | ggnoredo | let's say i have an icon pack but it's missing some icons for specific apps, how do i tell KDE to replace them with default icon pack? |
| 09:16.54 | ggnoredo | i'm using 16.10 with kde 5.7.5 |
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| 09:37.03 | Unbeerable | Fuchs, thank you, exactly my problem |
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| 09:39.45 | Andrew_K | Well, after upgrading to 5.7.5 i got rid of the time zone issue, but got another problem. Now i have strange behaviour on my dual monitor configuration |
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| 09:43.42 | Andrew_K | on the first monitor desktop area i set "directory view", on the second monitor i set "home directory view", but after rebooting the sysem, that second monitor shifts on the first montior and on the second monitor destop area becomes default with default wallpapper |
| 09:44.35 | Andrew_K | have anyone here got that problem? |
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| 09:46.47 | Unbeerable | I had a related issue with dual monitor config, it looks like only 'left' monitor can be default |
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| 09:47.47 | Unbeerable | so when I put my second monitor (TV) left to my primary, it becomes default anyway |
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| 10:07.16 | paranoidabhi_ | hmmm |
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| 11:49.02 | afd_ | what's the problem with the bloody clipboard? I don't have any actions enabled, I copy an URL and when I try to paste it, I get nothing |
| 11:50.15 | afd_ | and in the clipboard plasmoid, I have, above my text line that I just copied, another "entry", a big questionmark icon, with a "play" icon on that row |
| 11:50.24 | afd_ | how can I disable this extremely annoying behavior? |
| 11:51.00 | afd_ | I've tried all kind of combinations in the "Clipboard settings", none of them worked |
| 11:51.07 | afd_ | this is KDE Neon plasma 5.8, btw |
| 11:51.50 | rdieter | afd_: which app are you copying from? would it happen to be chrome/chromium? (if so, chromium is known to do goofy things with it's address bar) |
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| 11:52.26 | kevin123 | I don't have that issue in chromium |
| 11:52.55 | afd_ | rdieter: Chromium |
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| 11:53.15 | rdieter | kevin123: there several chromium bugs documenting it, it's really a thing |
| 11:53.24 | afd_ | indeed, Firefox doesn't have that problem |
| 11:53.31 | rdieter | but happy for you if you're lucky enough to avoid it |
| 11:53.42 | kevin123 | it could be how I set up the clipboard settings |
| 11:53.53 | afd_ | kevin123: how have you setup clipboard? |
| 11:54.10 | kevin123 | trying to take a screenshot but it's not working, 1 min |
| 11:54.37 | afd_ | I have activated "Ignore images", "Text selection only" and "Synchronize contents of the clipboard and the selection" |
| 11:55.00 | afd_ | nothing else |
| 11:55.09 | rdieter | https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=424111 here's one, for example |
| 11:55.45 | rdieter | https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=442253 and |
| 11:56.12 | kevin123 | https://imgur.com/a/1bF3U |
| 11:57.21 | afd_ | google chrome has the same problem :( |
| 11:57.48 | kevin123 | if you click play what does it do? |
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| 11:58.47 | afd_ | it shows a menu with all the existing browsers in the system |
| 11:58.53 | kevin123 | weird |
| 11:58.57 | afd_ | but your settings seem to fix the problem :) |
| 11:59.02 | kevin123 | cool |
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| 11:59.52 | afd_ | I think it might be that "remove whitespace when executing actions" |
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| 12:06.59 | momoe | Good morning/afternoon. I was tinkering around in the Breeze icon set, and noticed the <style type="text/css" id="current-color-scheme"> Is this the css flag that ties the small icons' color theme to the KDE theme? Is there any documentation on this? |
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| 12:10.57 | momoe | I'm curious because I'm making my own KDE icon theme in Inkscape so any documentation on the KDE color scheme piece would help |
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| 12:49.45 | Antisound | hi guys |
| 12:49.55 | Antisound | can you help me,.. what happend to my terminal? |
| 12:49.56 | Antisound | http://pasteboard.co/1DXvXQ1IA.png |
| 12:50.20 | Antisound | why is there such a big space between the letters and where i continue writing? |
| 12:51.10 | thiago | Your font is not monospaced |
| 12:51.13 | thiago | choose another font |
| 12:51.17 | Antisound | ahh |
| 12:51.18 | Antisound | ok |
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| 12:52.19 | Antisound | but i didn't change anything.. i use standard preferences |
| 12:52.25 | Antisound | it's noto sans.. |
| 12:52.34 | thiago | that's not monospaced |
| 12:52.36 | thiago | choose one that is |
| 12:52.52 | Antisound | ok |
| 12:52.54 | Antisound | i c |
| 12:53.06 | Antisound | i had to change in terminal especially |
| 12:53.40 | Antisound | thiago: thx a lot |
| 12:53.47 | Antisound | that was really strange behavoir :D |
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| 14:32.49 | Meodudlye | Hi all. I have a weird problem with my keyboard since my update to KDE Framework 5.26 (that comes with kubuntu 16.10). Any kapp that starts when I log in can't interact with any keyboard input. That includes the previous konsole(s), but also krunner. I can't type any text with them, I need to start new ones (the means killing krunner and restarting |
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| 15:05.31 | r00twrh | hey guys n gals.. i've suddenly started having a problem w/ plasma 5... it has become extremely slow (despite restarting kdm and the plasma shell). plenty of free mem, cpu isnt an issue. The clock widget only updates every 4-7 seconds or so. |
| 15:06.55 | r00twrh | Any thoughts? |
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| 15:31.48 | kevin123 | r00twrh: check tools like iotop / htop to see if any process is using excessive resources |
| 15:32.33 | r00twrh | kevin123: upgrading plasma-desktop seems to have solved the problem. I think there was something corrupt in the cache. |
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| 15:40.36 | kevin123 | glad you sorted it r00twrh |
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| 15:42.09 | Meodudlye | kevin123: maybe you have some ideas for my problem? |
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| 15:47.00 | kevin123 | I'm not sure, have you tried clearing ~/.cache ? |
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| 15:47.43 | kevin123 | did you check ~/.xsession-errors ? |
| 15:48.16 | r00twrh | thanks |
| 15:50.10 | Meodudlye | kevin123: there are errors like IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon in the .xsession-errors |
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| 15:50.21 | Meodudlye | might that be related? |
| 15:51.16 | Sho_ | sounds like you have ibus running and maybe somethng is hosed there |
| 15:51.24 | Sho_ | do you need to type a lang that needs an IME? |
| 15:52.08 | Meodudlye | well, I use accents a lot |
| 15:53.04 | Sho_ | you don't need ibus for those |
| 15:53.09 | Sho_ | you could try just removing it |
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| 15:54.24 | Meodudlye | the weird thing is that if I use another user on the same machine, everything works |
| 15:54.53 | Meodudlye | so I suspect a corrupted KDE config during the upgrade, but I'd like to try to avoid nuking my config to start with a fresh one |
| 15:55.45 | Sho_ | it's unlikely to be related to KDE |
| 15:55.59 | kevin123 | you could back up the config file and diff it after |
| 15:56.11 | kevin123 | assuming it's a text file |
| 15:57.18 | Meodudlye | kevin123: sure, but which one? :-) |
| 15:57.47 | kevin123 | hehe |
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| 16:53.49 | Meodudlye | kevin123: restarting my session without restauring it solved half of my problems : the keybord is taken into account my kapps from the login (which is a big improvement!). Accentuated characters still not understood by konsole. |
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| 17:00.58 | Meodudlye | it seems kontact either don´ t show my accentuated characters ... |
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| 17:06.43 | AgerexCODEBLOODE | hey |
| 17:07.03 | AgerexCODEBLOODE | i am new here can anyone help me how this works? |
| 17:08.31 | _tearmannair | how what works? |
| 17:09.33 | AgerexCODEBLOODE | how does a community works and how do we contribute? |
| 17:11.19 | blueck | AgerexCODEBLOODE: https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved |
| 17:11.23 | Spike29 | AgerexCODEBLOODE: https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved |
| 17:11.29 | Spike29 | heh :< |
| 17:11.42 | _tearmannair | There ya go ^^ |
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| 17:12.39 | AgerexCODEBLOODE | Thanks |
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| 17:35.31 | kuSuSE | hey, I was playing with the latest unstable of kde neon yesterday and pressing the windows/meta key on my keyboard opened the menu! are we making this behavior default in later versions of kde in stable? can we? |
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| 17:35.53 | genstorm | kuSuSE: that's default since 5.8 |
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| 17:36.36 | Spike29 | it opens the menu, but pressing it again doesn't close it ;< |
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| 17:37.01 | kuSuSE | oh I use xenial on my computer but I'm not sure what version of kde I have |
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| 17:37.21 | kuSuSE | Spike29: does escape close it? |
| 17:37.40 | Spike29 | kuSuSE: yes |
| 17:37.45 | Spike29 | Alt-F1 too |
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| 17:54.59 | kuSuSE | i have kubuntu xenial which has kde framework 5.18.0 but pressing windows/meta key doesn't do anything for me |
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| 17:55.33 | genstorm | kuSuSE: kubuntu does not have Plasma-5.8 yet if I'm not mistaken |
| 17:55.48 | genstorm | and KDE Frameworks 5.18 is horribly outdated anyway |
| 17:55.49 | kuSuSE | ah sorry |
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| 17:56.08 | Spike29 | yes, Plasma 5.8 requires frameworks 5.26 at least |
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| 17:57.44 | kuSuSE | oh so that's why the dark theme is so horribly broken |
| 17:58.29 | kuSuSE | I can't see the difference between the wifi icon and the aeroplane icon in dark mode |
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| 18:30.56 | latenite | Hi folks, what is '/usr/bin/plasmashell --shut-up' ? it eats 100% cpu for hours here |
| 18:34.42 | Sho_ | plasmashell is the process rendering the desktop and panels |
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| 18:39.13 | latenite | Sho_, why does it take 123% cpu (one core) at all moments? |
| 18:39.21 | latenite | is that normal? |
| 18:39.55 | thiago | no |
| 18:40.38 | thiago | it has eaten 4 minutes and 13 seconds of CPU time here, since I logged on almost 5 hours ago |
| 18:40.41 | latenite | then how can I find out what is causing this load |
| 18:41.00 | thiago | in my experience, it's an icon in the system tray that is updating too often |
| 18:41.01 | latenite | thiago, how did you get these numbers? |
| 18:41.01 | Unbeerable | I can forgive plasmashell for eating my CPU, but why it consumes over 2G of ram? |
| 18:41.06 | thiago | do you have anything animating? |
| 18:41.19 | thiago | I used top to see the CPU time and uptime to see how long the laptop has been running |
| 18:41.25 | Sho_ | Unbeerable: how did you arrive at that number? |
| 18:41.30 | thiago | Unbeerable: your measurement is wrong |
| 18:41.52 | Unbeerable | I see it in top output |
| 18:41.53 | latenite | thiago, I have a cpoy process running and in the tray is a blue circle... spining |
| 18:41.58 | thiago | Unbeerable: which column? |
| 18:41.58 | Unbeerable | in RES column |
| 18:42.19 | thiago | are you sure you're ont one digit off? It's 230 MB here. |
| 18:42.21 | Unbeerable | (not VIRT) |
| 18:42.23 | latenite | thiago, also how did you mease your '4 minutes and 13 seconds of CPU time' ? which tool |
| 18:42.31 | thiago | latenite: top |
| 18:43.07 | Unbeerable | well, currently it's '1,860g' because I rebooted today |
| 18:43.10 | latenite | 144 minutes |
| 18:43.18 | Unbeerable | but tomorrow I will have over 2G |
| 18:43.34 | thiago | looks like something is leaking then |
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| 18:46.01 | latenite | thiago, I guess it's the cpoy process it runs for 124 minutes now |
| 18:46.19 | latenite | I don't want to stop it now. But I will have an eye on it. |
| 18:46.33 | latenite | thiago, thank you for the hint |
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| 19:10.16 | momoe | Where is the breeze window decoration file directory located? /usr/share/kwin ?? |
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| 21:03.03 | blorp | hey, i'm on mint 18 and im trying to adjust gamma for one of my two screens but the option to select the screen is greyed out so both screens change. any help is much appreciated |
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| 21:49.32 | blorp | anyone know what to do when KDE connect gives "Invalid object path: /modules/k...."? |
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| 22:09.59 | Kendos-Kenlen | Hi :) |
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| 22:11.57 | Kendos-Kenlen | I have a little problem : I can't play notification sounds. The notification volume (available in System Settings -> Multimedia -> Audio Volume) can't be changed and stay at 0. |
| 22:12.21 | Kendos-Kenlen | I use pulseaudio, the VLC backend and plasma-pa. Kmix is not installed and I use the package compiled from source. |
| 22:14.07 | Kendos-Kenlen | When starting systemsettings5 on a terminal, when going to the audio volume page, I have the following message : "Trying to use rootObject before initialization is completed, whilst using setInitializationDelayed. Forcing completion". |
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| 22:16.11 | arvut | 3df264d! |
| 22:16.30 | momoe | Hello, I could use some help witht he KDE Breeze windows |
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| 22:24.57 | momoe | ... |
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| 22:27.14 | voyl | momoe: what's the problem? |
| 22:28.02 | momoe | I'm trying to access the resource files in the Breeze window frames. But have been unable to locate them. |
| 22:29.00 | momoe | I'm trying to access the resource files in the Breeze window frames. But have been unable to locate them. |
| 22:29.07 | momoe | "usr/share/themes/Breeze/assets/: Unknown command." |
| 22:29.34 | momoe | sry, but that location was where I thought they were located |
| 22:30.14 | voyl | momoe: you want to modify theme? |
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| 22:30.52 | momoe | yes, only to test things out right now, and eventually pull that into the /home location |
| 22:31.03 | voyl | momoe: also, i have this folder and everything is there |
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| 22:31.49 | momoe | so Breeze uses rasterized png images for the window buttons, (min, max, close)? |
| 22:32.15 | voyl | momoe: it seems so, theyre in the assets |
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| 22:34.17 | momoe | intersting. I didn't think that was a true, considering how the color scheme tool allows to modify the color variables and such. SVG seemed the way it should have been |
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| 22:36.47 | voyl | momoe: you should ask around dev chanells about this, I see png scrollbars there also, but theyre still colorized |
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| 22:38.19 | momoe | #kde-dev ? |
| 22:39.31 | voyl | kde-devel, or kde-vdg *visual design group |
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| 22:41.04 | momoe | okay ty |
| 22:43.33 | voyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.38 | momoe | Well kindof sorta. There's a subset of larger scale pngs of certain buttons as well, presumably for this source. |
| 22:46.06 | voyl | momoe: in assets you have like two sizes, in scaling you can do it really finelly and they stay sharp as svg |
| 22:47.46 | voyl | momoe: ah, but it's only for the window frame, forgot that those are separate things... |
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| 22:48.27 | momoe | *nods* I figured as much, either the frame was a script only file, or a seperate svg elsewhere |
| 22:48.27 | |aaron | holy crap! the new kde release fixes the dual screen desktop settings bug!!! |
| 22:48.36 | |aaron | i am beside myself with joy right now |
| 22:48.38 | momoe | I just need to tamper with the button |
| 22:49.56 | voyl | momoe: if you don't have picture for it, it's just code I'm pretty sure |
| 22:50.08 | momoe | Okay, decided to nuke the whole folder temorarily and hasn't had any affect on the window frame buttons. |
| 22:50.18 | momoe | So apparently these aren't the source files I'm looking for ^_^; |
| 22:50.36 | voyl | momoe: tried relogging? |
| 22:50.55 | momoe | sure, brb... |
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| 22:53.38 | momoe | 's back like a heart attack. |
| 22:54.14 | momoe | Still no affect on the main window frame buttons. |
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| 23:04.37 | blorp | aaron, what version of KDE are you on? ive been banging my head on my second monitor for 2 hours now |
| 23:05.13 | blorp | hopfully the blunt force trauma will just break either the monitor or my head so i dont have to worry about trying to fix it anymore |
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| 23:08.32 | |aaron | blorp: 5.8.2 |
| 23:08.42 | |aaron | blorp: just released today |
| 23:08.50 | blorp | thank you very much |
| 23:08.56 | |aaron | np |
| 23:09.05 | blorp | looks like im behind. |
| 23:09.53 | |aaron | i swithced to arch linux so i could always be up to date with kde and man what a difference it has made |
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| 23:10.38 | blorp | im on mint right now. i have no idea how to update the DE |
| 23:10.50 | blorp | 5.6.5 doesnt work too well though |
| 23:11.19 | |aaron | i know there is kde neon for ubuntu idk about mint |
| 23:12.17 | |aaron | its not easy to run the latest kde on a fixed release, generally, i think |
| 23:12.21 | |aaron | fixed release distro* |
| 23:13.28 | blorp | just found an article. looks like the ubuntu and mint have the same instructions |
| 23:13.38 | blorp | very similar distros from what ive hear |
| 23:13.40 | blorp | d |
| 23:14.45 | blorp | what distro were you using before arch? |
| 23:15.53 | |aaron | kubuntu mainly but it was buggy as crap. i also tried suse which was a little better but still had problems |
| 23:16.37 | blorp | dd you find arch to be very difficult to get used to? |
| 23:16.42 | kevin123 | I use opensuse tumbleweed on 1 computer and arch linux on the other, works pretty good on both |
| 23:17.14 | blorp | trying to convert from windows currently. its been difficult |
| 23:17.34 | |aaron | no, in fact its been a FAR better experience than the countless, fruitless hours i spent troubleshooting bugs in kubuntu that had already been fixed in upstream kde. but then ive been using linux forever and im very comfortable with it, for some maybe it would be more difficult |
| 23:17.50 | kevin123 | you could try something like manjaro or antergos if you're not comfortable with CLI yet |
| 23:18.04 | |aaron | ^^^^^ |
| 23:18.18 | blorp | the problem is i never remember any of the commands to do anything |
| 23:18.25 | blorp | thanks for the suggestion, ill look it up |
| 23:18.46 | |aaron | OR just skip kde for the time being and use gnome. i dont like it as much personally, too mac like, but its more stable so it doesnt matter as much what distro you use |
| 23:19.01 | |aaron | then switch when kde5 matures, or you get more comfortable in linux |
| 23:19.18 | |aaron | kde5 is still pretty new |
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| 23:20.03 | blorp | i think kde is the only thing i like more than windows at this point. i just wish that something... anything would work out of the box |
| 23:20.29 | |aaron | yeah try manjaro or antergos then |
| 23:21.34 | blorp | thanks for the suggestion. why would either of these be better than mint? |
| 23:22.33 | kevin123 | antergos is arch with a graphical installer, manjaro is based on arch but more aimed at beginners to linux |
| 23:22.49 | kevin123 | and they are rolling distros, so you get newish packages |
| 23:23.47 | blorp | ahh, awesome. |
| 23:24.09 | blorp | gotta reboot |
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| 23:32.59 | blorp | thanks again for your help. antergos/manjaro looks like the solution |
| 23:34.21 | kevin123 | no problem |
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| 23:56.27 | FreeFog | Hi sorry to bother, but I'm unsertain how to get plasma 5.8.1 on Kubuntu 16.04, can it be done if I compile it my self? |
