IRC log for #kde on 20161105

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00:01.56buriedalivedemlak да, прости пожалуйста, echo $USER с большими
00:02.09buriedaliveесть такое
00:02.22demlakwtf? i can't speak russia
00:03.18buriedalivedemlak I don't care
00:05.59demlakand now?
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00:20.08buriedalivedemlak what do u need from your system?
00:20.51demlaksame access in dolphin as krusader does have...
00:21.33buriedaliveuse krusader
00:21.42demlaki want dolphin
00:21.54buriedalivewhat is a problem for u?
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00:23.13ago_hi, whats the debian package name for the network-manager applet? (plasma 5)
00:23.34demlakkrusader doesn't have side panel.. and key bindings are crazy (i know, i could change those keybindings)
00:24.47buriedalivejump to create new bar
00:26.30demlakhmm?
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00:30.29buriedalivedemlak ctrl+t tryed?
00:31.34ltosky[m]demlak: file a bug against frameworks-kio
00:32.18demlakah.. you are talking about tabs.... i know them... but i want a sidebar with recent folders and mounts.. just like a bookmark list... and new added automounted USB-Sticks (and so on) should be added there automaticaly.. etc.. etc..
00:33.05demlakltosky[m]: first i thought it would be great to find other people with same problem.. to verify it's not just my fault or so =)
00:33.17ltosky[m]ago_: plasma-nn; did you try to search with apt?
00:34.17ago_not yet, but will try now..
00:34.20ago_thx
00:34.29demlakmaybe it's a problem of my user config or so... since last plasma update i also got other problems
00:34.43ltosky[m]demlak: right, but if no one else has the configuration to reproduce, and you see it consistently... at most you could try with a live distro for comparison
00:34.51ltosky[m]or a clean user
00:35.42ltosky[m]ago_: typo, I meant plasma-nm; I would suggest in such cases to search first
00:35.49demlakago is gone
00:36.09demlaki'll start by adding a new user..
00:36.18buriedalivegood luck
00:36.24buriedalivebetter
00:36.29ltosky[m]Uh, I can't see it with the matrix.org bridge
00:37.55ltosky[m]buriedalive: the "root" (folder) that he is talking about is not the one that you are talking about (user)
00:39.04buriedaliveltosky[m] I have to talk about?
00:39.29buriedalivemy wrong
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00:44.03demlakltosky[m]: ok.. clean user: same problem..
00:44.22demlaki'll test a live system
00:46.16demlakdo you recommend any iso that is most near by my current setup? arch linux with plasma 5.8.3
00:47.00buriedalivedemlak say for clean results too, just interestin'
00:47.59demlakburiedalive: hmm?
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01:52.56demlakltosky[m]: ok.. did a fresh install of arch linux with kde on a virtualbox.. same behaviour.. krusader is able to write.. dolphin not...
01:53.53demlakltosky[m]: how to file a bug?
01:54.13demlaki think i did something like this before.. but i can't remember how
02:00.35demlakltosky[m]: shure it's frameworks-kio related? not dolphin? cause krusader doesn't have problems
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02:02.53demlakah.. already there
02:02.56demlakhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370430
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02:10.12mdoshierI have fedora 24 with Plasma 5.7, I tried googling how to upgrade 5.8 but I haven't had much luck
02:12.44valoriedemlak: are you sure this is not a permissions problem?
02:13.06valorieyou might chown your $HOME and be sure
02:13.57demlakvalorie: not 100%.. cause i'm not a linux-guru...
02:14.00demlakdrwx------ 66 demlak users  12K  5. Nov 02:10 demlak/
02:14.04demlaklooks good
02:14.47valoriechown -R username folder/ costs nothing, might help
02:16.48demlakjust gave it a try.. same behaviour
02:16.56valorie:(
02:20.17demlakthe wierd thing: it's possible to read, delete and rename files and folders.. but no writing
02:21.29mdoshierCould anyone help, please?
02:25.29demlaki'm a rookie.. sorry
02:25.43mdoshierNo prob, thank you
02:25.53demlakwell.. starting to work in 9 hours.. so... n8
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04:01.36waltercoolJust in case someone don't like gnome stuff... there is some alternative to plasma-pa? I'm not liking their gconf dependency
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04:52.42thomasrosshi, how can i reload a window decoration theme after making changes to it?>
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05:51.14mwdkde-plasma seems to have a confused update checker
05:51.47mwdit's telling me that i have a batch of updates, but i installed those updates hours ago, and there's no (discoverable) way to tell it to refresh or to disable it
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05:52.19mwdalso it tried to redownload the updates.... what??
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05:57.29mwddeinstalls plasma-pk-updates
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09:06.23ArcaireSo I found that the latest version of sddm does this really cool Where's Wally emulation -- https://dl2.pushbulletusercontent.com/f8HY6PU1TSy4WYO17gIc8djeiM0q9r0u/asset.JPG
09:06.29ArcaireUnfortunately this also means I can't log in to the system anymore.
09:06.54Arcaire"Where's the greeter? KDE's sequel to the worldwide smash hit puzzle books."
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09:29.59genstormmwd: tbh I'm not sure why one would use anything else than the distribution's own package management
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10:16.12v7GUys
10:16.28v7I can't run game called Shenzhen I/O ...
10:16.36v7Kde Neon 5.8 installed
10:16.57v7Exception: exception inside UnhandledException handler: The type initializer for 'Ionic.Zip.ZipFile' threw an exception.
10:17.35v7The strange is that I have two PC where KDE Neon is installed ... and on the PC it's working properly ... on other - no. ( Just can't run )
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10:18.11v7On the first one I have Quadro K2000D GC, on other just Intel Mobile HD Graphics ...
10:18.18v7Could that be because of that ?
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10:42.56elvisangelacciohmm all channel topics are gone from konversation, even though "Show channel topics" is checked in the settings
10:43.09elvisangelaccioanyone else with this problem?
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11:24.19sanctHi, I'm working on a dev project that uses Arabic in filenames, and I need to access those files from Konsole.  Now, Arabic and BiDi works just fine in console, but when I type in Arabic, the line shifts down and truncates a good portion of low-hanging letters.  The problem was documented here (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318029), but I have Frameworks 5.27, and the issue is still there.  I've posted a screenshot of this problem at http://imgur.com/a/eWB
11:24.19sanctGo .  Note the height different between the tilde and the dollar sign.
11:24.40sancthttp://imgur.com/a/eWBGo
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11:26.52sanctI tried this with DejaVu Sans Mono (instead of Oxygen Mono), and the program still exists.
11:27.06sanct*problem
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14:04.26RebelCoderTried KDE Neon. NVidia Optimus just does not work for me. Wasted 2 days trying to configure it - still does not work. Back to Debian, where it works out of the box.
14:05.04genstorma good reminder to never buy optimus hardware
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14:07.14RebelCodergenstorm, ALL good, powerful laptops come with hybrid graphics.
14:07.26RebelCoderThere is NO laptops with just nvidia card.
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14:08.29RebelCoderAnd it works just fine, just not in young or distros. Debian is rock solid with it. So yes - a reminder to use a good and long supported distro
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14:11.08rdieteragrees with genstorm
14:13.04RebelCoderrdieter, genstorm - solve this: Only option for you is a laptop, and you need powerfull graphics and 4 core-8trhead i7.
14:13.08RebelCoderWhat to buy >
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14:13.45RebelCoder+ you know that a good distro supports your hardware just fine
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14:28.29genstorma laptop is not the place for powerful graphics
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15:35.03suechtlahi, is there a possibility to get a onscreen keyboard on the lockscreen?
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16:16.08thomasrosshi, how can i reload a window decoration theme after making changes to it?
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17:09.40andrevmatosAnyone know how to activate a kwin effect (like present windows) through a dbus call? Found nothing in QDbusViewer's kwin tree
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17:14.37AppAraathi everyone, I have 1366x768 resolution and KDE feels a bit "too big" for that resolution. For example, the window settings dialog's bottom buttons tend to disappear behind the menu bar. Is there any way for me to change the UI and scale it down a bit?
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17:18.24AppAraatthis is what I mean btw - http://imgur.com/DNSdW0e
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17:18.41AppAraat(image only without the ads - http://i.imgur.com/DNSdW0e.png)
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17:20.10elvisangelaccioAppAraat: that's a bug, that dialog should have a scrollbar
17:20.14elvisangelaccioplease report it on bugs.kde.org
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17:22.37AppAraatoh ok, is there otherwise also a possibility to have scale go under 1 ("Scale Display")
17:23.43AppAraatalso, which one do you mean, the "Windows Specific Settings" window or "Displays" settings window?
17:24.48elvisangelaccioah right, both should be fixed
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17:37.37cosmosdashboard didnt get ported, isnt it?
17:37.51CounterPillowHow do I remove the KDE "notes" widget from my tray?
17:38.45CounterPillownvm, got it
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17:45.51AppAraatelvisangelaccio: ehm, which one should I choose from this list? https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi
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17:46.26AppAraatsystemsettings?
17:47.16elvisangelaccioAppAraat: the biggest dialog should be from kwin
17:47.30elvisangelacciothe small one from kscreen (I think)
17:47.50elvisangelacciobut don't worry, the devs will reassing the reports if necessary
17:48.57AppAraatoh so it should be 2 reports or just one?
17:49.15AppAraat(sorry, I'm kind of new with KDE bugreports)
17:50.07elvisangelaccioAppAraat: yeah they should be 2 in an ideal world :)
17:51.16AppAraatyeah sure no problem I'll make 2 separate ones. Ideal worlds ftw! :p
17:52.25elvisangelaccio'cause those 2 dialogs are probably maintained by 2 different people
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18:05.39AppAraatoh dear, which version should I fill in? KDE Plasma version, KDE Frameworks version or Qt version?
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18:06.35elvisangelaccioAppAraat: plasma version
18:06.46AppAraatk, thanks
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18:51.55AppAraatelvisangelaccio: yay! Submitted - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372115 - any feedback is welcome. I'll take the feedback I get on this bugreport into account on that 2nd bugreport.
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19:11.06grimsleySilly question, but in plasma how can one adjust the time format from 12 to 24-hour format. System settings > Regional settings > Formats doesn't seem to show a quick and easy way to change this
19:13.26demmgrimsley: right click the clock in the tray > digtal clock settings > use 24 hour
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19:15.42grimsleydemm, thank you. now I feel silly.
19:16.02demm:)  don't, always simple when you know where to look
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19:18.00grimsleyany reason it was moved from system settings > regional settings > formats OR date & time
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19:45.29elvisangelaccioAppAraat: that's a fairly good report, better than the average :p
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19:46.25AppAraatelvisangelaccio: thank you, I'll make a 2nd one when I'll have the time :)
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19:57.30melonpantyHey guys I'm on kde neon and plasma5.8. I looked through the shortcut settings and I found shortcuts for minimizing and maximizing windows but there doesn't seem to be one for just un-maximizing. Am I missing anything?
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20:01.35Leoneofhi, my crons in Task scheduler didn't run as expected like before, also it does not run when i select "Run Now"
20:04.43Defiance_melonpanty, when I maximize mine it gives me a diamond shape to un-max it
20:06.00melonpantyI'm talking about a keyboard shortcut, not the buttons.
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20:46.48excognachi all, does netrunner have a separate channel?
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20:52.51rdieterexcognac: this?  https://www.reddit.com/r/Netrunner/comments/21ro0j/irc_channel/  (irc.solidirc.com, #netrunner)
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20:53.25rdieternevermind, that's not what you want I thinkn
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20:53.37rdieterthat's netrunner the card game :-/
20:53.46excognacwell googled it
20:53.46suechtlahi all, is there a possibility to get a on screen keyboard at the lockscreen of kde 5?
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20:54.21excognacbtw is there application docker for kde or that project has been dropped?
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20:57.34excognacsighs and will learn debian then
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22:02.16grimsleyexcognac, I don't know how well it will work under kde but there is plank and a dock plasmoid you may want to look into
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22:12.14excognacgrimsley: on the job, will report about them tomorrow
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22:14.11grimsleyexcognac, take it with a grain of salt but here's the link (reddit) for the dock plasmoid I was referring to. It looks to require plasma 5.8. https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/5b98p6/now_dock_panel_plasmoid_v04_for_plasma_58/
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