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02:53.01mrnukehttps://paste.debian.net/899436/
02:53.28mrnuke^ that's a kscreenlocker_greet backtrace with X running, obtained over ssh
02:53.57mrnukethiago: ^
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05:34.15thiagomrnuke: so it does look like a GL driver problem
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06:01.40joey_i select text and it copys automatically how can i stop this?
06:01.50thiagoyou cannot
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06:02.57joey_why
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06:04.55thiagobecause it's not a disableable feature
06:05.06thiagowhenever you select text, it gets copied to the PRIMARY selection. Period.
06:05.21thiagoit does not get copied to the clipboard
06:06.52joey_is that a linux thing or kde thing
06:07.00thiagoneither
06:07.03thiagoit's an X11 thing
06:07.11joey_ok
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07:49.48mrnukethiago:I'm a little skeptical of that
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07:55.43mrnukeI've seen this sort of thing happen with different hardware and different drivers
07:56.15mrnukeintel, nvidia, amd, amdgpu, radeon, nouveau, fglrx, nvidia, it doesn't matter
07:56.41mrnukeit seems to be more related by how KDE/qt5 interacts with the system than anything else
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08:44.05TomTomhow to mark multiple mails in kmail 5.2.3? the focus is not in the mail-list. cltr+a selects "all of the filter", shift+cursor/pgupdown changes the folder. dragging a frame with mouse is also not possible....
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09:45.00Shimmyquick question: how does the tap-and-drag gesture for touchpad works exactly?
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10:44.11JyZyXELhow do i open Kate with kdesudo so that it uses my users configuration?
10:44.27JyZyXELbecause the kdesudo kate looks totally different than my user kate
10:47.23leszekJyZyXEL: you can't
10:47.29JyZyXEL??
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10:48.17leszekJyZyXEL: it isn't possible. Executing with kdesudo means it will use the /root folders config
10:48.37leszekif there isn't one it will use the system defaults
10:49.04JyZyXELso i should make my kate config the system default rather than user default?
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10:56.25leszekJyZyXEL: I suggest copying the kate config from your user over to /root
10:57.43JyZyXELleszek: so ill need a wrapper that always copies the config before launching kate
10:58.17leszekyou could try linking the specific config from the specific /root folder to your home users folder
10:58.49leszekthe main question I however have why are you even running graphical applications as root ? It feels so wrong
10:59.01JyZyXELto read /var/log/syslog
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11:11.05JyZyXELi don't understand why KDE tools don't just ask for root password to get access to administrative thing
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13:58.53Kendos-KenlenHi :)
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14:00.16Kendos-KenlenIs KRFB still developed ? I can't find any good VNC server and last time I tried it, it didn't worked ... :/
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14:41.33yatesi have a brand new install of f24/kde on a gaming pc and am experiencing frequent, but seemingly random, freezes. when a freeze occurs, nothing works - not the mouse, not the keyboard, etc.
14:42.07yatesare there any known issues and workarounds?
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14:49.23Zrenyates, amd?
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14:52.26yatesno, intel xeon
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14:54.57rdieter_workyates: so, intel video ?
14:55.33rdieter_work(as Zren implies, such symptoms often point to video driver issues)
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14:59.43timofonicHi
15:00.32timofonicDev-related questions belong to #kde-dev right? It's about a possible file format to import a list of duplicated files...
15:00.58rdieter_worktimofonic: #kde-devel
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15:05.17timofonicrdieter_work: Thanks!
15:10.39myteamarcoHi Plasmers :D
15:11.53myteamarcoI'm new on qt/kde environment and I have not found anything that satisfy me, googling it. I would learn how to start and stop kwin scripts with qdbus. As I understand from what I've read I must download archivie , unpack it and execute in created directory as regular user: $ plasmapkg --type kwinscript -i
15:12.17myteamarcothen create custom shortcut with this command: qdbus org.kde.KWin /Scripting loadScript ~/.local/share/kwin/scripts/[...]/main.js and qdbus org.kde.KWin /Scripting start  Is it true? Is that an obsolete way? I will stop this script with qdbus org.kde.KWin /Scripting stop?
15:14.27timofonicmyteamarco: Sorry for the offtopic. I didn't know KDE supported javascript and only Gnome did it, I wonder why javascript instead lua. I wonder if there's some kind of compatibility :P
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15:16.09myteamarcoHi timofonic, my bad. I'd like know something abount qdbus start/stop for kwin scripts
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15:17.16rdieter_worktimofonic: Qt natively supports it (javascript)
15:21.14yatesrdieter_work: no, it's an Nvidia GeForce GTX 660
15:21.32yatessorry, i was on #fedora
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15:31.14yatesrdieter_work: i don't see a bugfix for nouveau in that link you provided (https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kkofler/qtwebengine/)
15:32.29rdieter_workyates: there's a patched mesa build included
15:32.49yatesrdieter_work: can you please educate me? what is "mesa"?
15:33.10rdieter_workyates: the library that provides opengl support to open source video drivers (like nouveau)
15:33.28yatesah. good. thank yo9u.
15:35.35yatesrdieter_work: is it the qt5-qtwebengine that has the mesa updates? if so, that's already installed here.
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15:36.49yatesor are you saying i must use the version of qt5-qtwebengine from his repo? he has a custom repo?
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15:38.24timofonicrdieter_work: I'm sure you're aware that's a very fuzzy and generic definition, because it supports Vulkan and video decoding/encoding frameworks too :)
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15:41.53rdieter_worktimofonic: sure, but the context of *this* conversation was about nouveau
15:42.07rdieter_workand how mesa is related to it
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15:43.01rdieter_work(adding irrelevant details just to be complete would add confusion and not be constructive here, imo)
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15:55.16timofonicrdieter_work: You described one of my many cognitive issues perfectly, you are correct. Sorry! I did think Nouveau supported Vulkan :/
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17:39.40t-askHi, quite a lot Qt apps aren't running with Nvidia 375.20. Any ideas why? http://cryptb.in/DFX#1a41238403bdb8ab9b1fe0365df41773
17:40.35t-askit looks like I can only start one application like mpv and this seems to block other apps like qtcreator form opening
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17:57.26rdietert-ask: ask nvidia ?
18:00.32t-askrdieter: You think it is NV and nothing related to Qt?
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18:00.55rdieterpossible, yes
18:02.37rdieterlibnvidia-glcore.so.375.20 is the one initiating some sort of signal handler and shutting down the app, as far as I can tell from the backtrace you posted
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18:03.47genstormhow nice of them
18:04.00genstormbut sounds like an old bug...?
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18:05.12t-askgenstorm: old bug of them?
18:05.37genstormQt vs. nvidia - like, months ago
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18:40.40lineinthesandWhat can I do to debug the sporadic "desktop effects restarted due to graphics reset" messages?
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18:43.16FLHernelineinthesand: Graphics-driver bug, depends which
18:43.35FLHerne(nothing userspace can do should be able to cause a GPU reset)
18:43.43lineinthesandnvidia proprietary
18:44.35lineinthesandFunny thing is that it's just a minor glitch, in fact, most of the time I only notice the popup
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18:45.34lineinthesandOK, so I'll wait for graphics driver update (or maybe I should install an older version as I didn't get those before)
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18:51.08FLHerneIME, there's absolutely no point trying to file a bug with nvidia
18:53.46lineinthesandI wouldn't know how to generate a useful bugreport for this anyway.
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19:49.48bennypr0faneHi I'm getting this weird error message in Korganizer under Arch-based Linux. There is a dialog saying <"" is not a valid URL>. I have Korganizer in autostart, it occurs at each reboot: https://chakralinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=91734#p91734 Once the session is running, it doesn't come back when I restart Korganizer.
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20:23.41Th3R0bto any users of be::clock, I just posted a port of it here https://sourceforge.net/projects/be-clock-kf5/
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20:33.37RalfJHi all -- is there any way to disable the behavior that pressing the Win key opens the K-Menu? I like using that key as push-to-talk in voice chat applications, and since I upgraded KDE it now always shows that menu...
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20:40.09cb400fusers have been demanding that feature in here every day for years and now you want to turn it off ;-)
20:40.41cb400fdunno if it's configurable :-/
20:40.58genstormit is
20:43.12RalfJgenstorm: how? all I found is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371560 which says it cannot be disabled
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20:43.33genstormI just know it is
20:43.35RalfJcb400f: I know, I know... the general crowd of users is impossible to please ;)
20:43.38genstormI didn't look into it
20:43.53peporead comment #3
20:44.26RalfJpepo: yeah, okay, I can manually edit the config file. I was expecting something more in the UI, but I guess this will do
20:44.46RalfJoh... actually, disabling the Alt-F1 shortcut also disables the meta shortcut. well that's not very discoverable, but at least it works^
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20:48.16t-askseemes like NV driver 375.20 is around the corner https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/977518/linux/problems-with-multiple-opengl-applications-running-simultaneously-with-375-20-on-a-gtx970/2
20:49.42t-askI mean the fix for 372.20
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