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| 09:39.56 | blindsky | How do I configure KDE to show mnemonics permanently? |
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| 10:39.26 | shtrb | please |
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| 11:12.02 | Aardwolf | Hello, where is the "breeze" theme stored, and how can I customize it? |
| 11:12.53 | Zren | Aardwolf, /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/defaiult |
| 11:13.22 | Zren | Copu it to ~/.local/share/plasma/desktoptheme/breeze-user |
| 11:13.52 | Zren | then change the name in metadata.desktop to breeeze-user |
| 11:14.34 | Aardwolf | Thanks! |
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| 11:15.59 | Zren | if you want a theme that inherits breeze (with a few cjamges), then look at https://github.com/Zren/breeze-alphablack |
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| 11:16.31 | Aardwolf | basically I'm trying to get breeze, but with opaque panel |
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| 11:23.31 | Aardwolf | Also, what is the difference between "look and feel" and "desktop theme"? |
| 11:23.40 | Aardwolf | both seem to change the look in a similar way, but dekstop theme has more choices |
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| 11:40.13 | Aardwolf | Does anyone know how I can change the breeze panel to be opaque? Is it one of the svgz files? |
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| 11:46.48 | Zren | Aardwolf, Look And Feel is basically desktop theme+layout+cursor theme + ... other things. |
| 11:47.26 | Aardwolf | Any idea where "panel translucency" is stored? |
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| 11:48.37 | Zren | you have to edit the svgz |
| 11:48.39 | Zren | https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma5/ThemeDetails |
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| 11:49.55 | Zren | transparent/background probably |
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| 11:50.17 | Zren | s'been awhile since I eidted that |
| 11:50.23 | Aardwolf | ok, thanks. Already tried copying the one from opaque to transparent but that didn't help. Trying to figure out inkscape now :) |
| 11:51.00 | Zren | btw, you need to switch to another theme and back to "apply" the changes |
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| 11:56.52 | Aardwolf | The "oxygen" theme has opaque backgrounds and so on in its svg files, but its panel is still being rendered translucent. Any idea what setting makes it translucent? I just really really really want an opaque panel, background shining through makes it low contrast. Thanks! |
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| 12:00.38 | Aardwolf | never mind, found it, there are multiple "panel-background" svgs and it was one particular one that had to be changed (in widgets). I think it's working now, thanks Zren! |
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| 12:02.11 | cousin_luigi | What do I need to search for files in dolphin? I must have removed a package too many. |
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| 12:41.07 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: likely something baloo-related, probably depends on your distro |
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| 12:43.50 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: I've reinstalled all baloos I could find, but no dice. |
| 12:43.55 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: any service? |
| 12:43.57 | genstorm | dolphin has file search regardless of baloo |
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| 12:44.13 | cousin_luigi | genstorm: does it rely on external modules for that? |
| 12:44.25 | genstorm | none that I know of |
| 12:44.51 | cousin_luigi | I wonder why it doesn't work anymore... |
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| 12:45.18 | cousin_luigi | Any way to debug this? launching dolphin from a console doesn't say much |
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| 12:45.49 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: to be clear "doesn't work" is a bit vague. you mean you still have a search box, but enterring anything and... nothing happens? |
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| 12:45.59 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: exactly |
| 12:46.12 | cousin_luigi | I have the same distro in a VM with the same baloo packages installed and it does work |
| 12:47.06 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: what distro? |
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| 12:47.18 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: openSUSE Leap 42.2 |
| 12:47.34 | cousin_luigi | I guess I'll compare the list of installed packages to see if I missed something |
| 12:47.46 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: and problem started... when/how? |
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| 12:47.55 | rdieter | you implied you removed some packages? |
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| 12:48.45 | rdieter | (if so, have you restarted your session since you re-installed them?) |
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| 12:49.18 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: yes |
| 12:49.21 | cousin_luigi | perhaps it's akonadi-search |
| 12:49.43 | rdieter | doubtful, akonadi has little to do with dolphin |
| 12:50.09 | rdieter | though, I've no idea what's in suse's 'akonadi-search' package |
| 12:50.57 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: any chance it's konqueror? |
| 12:51.04 | genstorm | nope |
| 12:51.18 | rdieter | konq is a kde4 app, so no |
| 12:51.26 | genstorm | it's the reverse case, actually konqueror needs dolphin for file browsing |
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| 12:55.28 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: http://sprunge.us/OWSJ <- these are the missing packages compared to the VM. (Dolphin search in the VM works). See anything interesting? |
| 12:56.56 | rdieter | didn't answer my question about restarting session, did you? |
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| 12:59.18 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: I did. I also just restarted it again to be sure. |
| 12:59.38 | cousin_luigi | Should I reboot? |
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| 13:00.16 | genstorm | cousin_luigi: do you have kio-extras installed? |
| 13:00.40 | cousin_luigi | genstorm: Yes. |
| 13:02.01 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: rebooting should not be neccessary |
| 13:02.23 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: some kde service then? something that ought to be started? |
| 13:02.34 | rdieter | I don't know |
| 13:03.34 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: other place I'd look, is baloo file configuration differences : systemsettings => search |
| 13:03.44 | rdieter | (file search) |
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| 13:04.12 | rdieter | if any directories you expect have been blacklisted, for example |
| 13:04.59 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: hmm, the directory where I'm searching links to a volume that's blacklisted. Could that be it? |
| 13:05.06 | rdieter | yep |
| 13:05.53 | rdieter | (could be at least, I'm not 100% certain, theoretically that blacklist is supposed to be only for indexing by content, not by filename) |
| 13:06.06 | cousin_luigi | no change |
| 13:06.14 | cousin_luigi | should I logout? |
| 13:07.09 | rdieter | try searching a different location? |
| 13:07.22 | rdieter | will at least narrow down if it is location-specific |
| 13:08.25 | rdieter | maybe even check in terminal: balooctl status (to make sure service is running and happy) |
| 13:11.44 | cousin_luigi | hmm, baloo is active and searching in /usr works |
| 13:11.47 | cousin_luigi | that's odd |
| 13:16.07 | genstorm | also, baloo isn't active in /usr |
| 13:16.18 | genstorm | you don't have any other location within /home to search? |
| 13:16.56 | genstorm | but as I said, file search in dolphin works without baloo as well (it is not installed on my system) |
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| 13:23.36 | cousin_luigi | genstorm: it doesn't seem to work on /home/myuser |
| 13:24.25 | cousin_luigi | nor on any other mounted volume |
| 13:24.28 | cousin_luigi | not sure what to do |
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| 15:17.03 | cousin_luigi | My old konsole used to evidentiate URLs, now it doesn't do that anymore. |
| 15:20.07 | FLHerne | cousin_luigi: There are settings "Mouse - Miscellaneous -> Underline files and links" and "Advanced -> Enable URL hints" |
| 15:20.25 | FLHerne | Toggling them, I can't see any effect of the second one :P |
| 15:22.08 | cousin_luigi | FLHerne: Thanks, the former did the trick. I don't understand what the latter does. |
| 15:22.56 | FLHerne | No, I assume it must do something, but I can't see what either :P |
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| 15:53.35 | bryz | Hey! does anyone know what the K pgp program called? Its logo is a lock |
| 15:53.41 | bryz | its not kleopatra |
| 15:53.51 | genstorm | kgpg |
| 15:55.22 | bryz | yep! thats it. thanks! |
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| 15:55.40 | genstorm | kf5-based in >=16.12.0 |
| 15:55.42 | KARMBIAN | kgpg +1 |
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| 16:15.58 | cousin_luigi | FLHerne: Try holding down ctrl and you'll see. |
| 16:16.24 | FLHerne | cousin_luigi: Oh, thanks |
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| 16:16.52 | FLHerne | That looks somewhat useful |
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| 16:31.58 | Firecatcher | hi there |
| 16:33.03 | Firecatcher | I use 5.8 plasma and have problem with two monitors. While one contains fullscreen app, panel on the other one is not being updated. How to fix it? |
| 16:34.34 | Firecatcher | What is not being updated: Time shown is not real time, panel just doesn't respond |
| 16:37.27 | Zren | Firecatcher, it's basically the same issue |
| 16:37.39 | Zren | the fullscreen app is disabling the compositor |
| 16:37.50 | Zren | which is what updates the panel (the clock) |
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| 16:38.31 | Firecatcher | Zren, I found options in setting that restrict apps to block compositing. Hope it will help. Thanks! |
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| 17:05.20 | apn | Which library allows for display events from korganizer in the clock/calendar widget? |
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| 18:10.49 | rindolf | rdieter: hi, here? |
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| 18:58.07 | rdieter | rindolf: am now, hi |
| 18:58.23 | rindolf | rdieter: hi |
| 18:58.52 | rindolf | rdieter: what can we do about that panel becoming unresponsive problem? |
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| 19:00.29 | rdieter | rindolf: panel/plasmshell you mean? can't hurt to report @ bugs.kde.org too. most evidence points to driver issue so far |
| 19:01.25 | rindolf | rdieter: ah. |
| 19:01.29 | rdieter | additional backgrace(s) from deadlocked plasmashell process would help too, especially for amd/radeon users |
| 19:01.35 | rindolf | rdieter: yes ,that is what i mean |
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| 19:02.28 | rdieter | we've a bug @ bugzilla.redhat.com tracking nouveau already, but seems no one has taken my advice for a separate radeon bug or for more debugging/backtraces yet |
| 19:05.29 | rindolf | rdieter: I already provided a backtrace of plasmashell |
| 19:07.29 | rdieter | rindolf: are you the original reporter of bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1399396 / |
| 19:07.31 | rdieter | ? |
| 19:08.11 | rdieter | if not, the first comment is the only backtrace I see, am I missing something? |
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| 19:08.55 | rindolf | rdieter: it's not me - my name is not Eugene |
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| 19:09.42 | rdieter | rindolf: ok, so where is your backtrace ? |
| 19:10.10 | rdieter | in particular, add it to the bug report please |
| 19:11.01 | rindolf | rdieter: here it is - http://www.shlomifish.org/Files/files/text/plasma5-panel-gets-stuck-gdb-bt-full-output.txt |
| 19:11.11 | rindolf | rdieter: I'll add it to the bug. |
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| 19:17.09 | rindolf | rdieter: done |
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| 21:03.39 | chumley | Hello to the channel. I have been working on a problem with K3B that at this point has me frustrated. I explain it here https://paste.kde.org/pxyu2nn07 any help is appreciated. |
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| 22:59.09 | yenclgj5nlw | hi all |
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| 22:59.49 | yenclgj5nlw | is there anyone alive? |
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| 23:03.18 | DarinMiller | yenclgj5nlw: slightly kicking here... |
| 23:04.11 | yenclgj5nlw | I use kdeconnect with latest kubuntu and kdeconnect writes that legacy encryption 8s used |
| 23:04.41 | yenclgj5nlw | DarinMiller |
| 23:05.30 | DarinMiller | OK. |
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| 23:08.13 | yenclgj5nlw | DarinMiller: what do you think it is OK? |
| 23:08.21 | yenclgj5nlw | *why |
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| 23:09.49 | DarinMiller | yenclgj5nlw: I don't know much about the inner workings of kdeconnect (I am not a kde dev, just an end user...) |
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| 23:23.24 | chumley | Anyone have any thoughts on my problem above |
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| 23:53.49 | kevin123 | would I be fine if I minimized the integrated GPU memory setting to the minimum (64MB)? or does KDE plasma require more video memory than that? |