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01:04.24ShalokShalomhi there :)
01:04.26ShalokShalomis it possible to add tracks to the query in KDE`s context menu?
01:04.28ShalokShalomthere is such an entry for SMPlayer here
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03:00.37adymitrukAnyone else notice that unicode support is missing from the KDE neon in the widgets and network names?
03:01.25adymitrukIt's supported on Kubuntu. So I was surprised that I just get the square placeholder in KDE Neon
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03:28.33adymitrukI'm also using a Chromebook Pixel from 2013. On kubuntu, I had the lid suspending properly. With KDE neon, I have it turing the power off. Is there a way to have the suspend function back?
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04:28.01enolcHi everyone!! I am new to kde development. Can anyone guide me how to contribute to kde?
04:29.24Svetlanahi enolc :) pick a program whose codebase you are ready to study and improve, install a few apps and get started ( https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/development has extra info )
04:31.56enolcthanks Svetlana ! I have some knowledge about C++ and Qt. Can you tell me the best project that suits me?
04:35.10vvandeone that interests you would be a good start :)
04:35.53Svetlanaenolc: it sounds like a good thing, but it's a tool; to make a good start you need to find something that is interesting to program for
04:36.09Svetlanajust "I want to use this tool to do anything because this tool looks promising" won't get you far
04:36.29Svetlanathere are tiny tasks listed here: https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&keywords=junior-jobs&list_id=1340815
04:36.43Svetlanasee if any of them looks attractive
04:36.59Svetlanafirst look at the component column
04:37.08Svetlanaand skim the list to get an idea of which components are available
04:37.16Svetlanaand see whether any one of them looks interesting
04:38.49Svetlanahttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365182 this perhaps looks small for example (if you like plots) you could try to build the program from source and confirm that you can see the bug. once that is done, the remaining work is much less
04:39.13Svetlanaand there is #kde-devel where people are a bit more hacker style than here
04:39.20Svetlanawhich I just joined, too
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05:42.25vvandeHow do you edit key bindings in Settings->EditCurrentProfile->Keyboard ?
05:42.33vvandeI still can't figure that one out.
05:44.00vvandeFrom what I can tell, it misinterprets the contentes as shortcuts.
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06:00.10CharlieBrownMy computer is a Thinkpad X200 with 4 GB RAM. How do I optimize KDE for this?
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06:20.04vvandewhat kind of optiization were you thinking about?
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06:29.59adymitrukWhy is my profile picture not shown on the KDE Neon login screen?
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06:55.42valorieadymitruk: you might ask in #kde-neon
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07:11.28shalokIs there any way to hide specific applications in the application menu?
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07:38.57adymitrukthank you valorie
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07:53.39canllaithCharlieBrown: that is more than sufficient to run KDE
07:53.50canllaithCharlieBrown: it runs very well on my celeron with 2GB memory :)
07:55.18CharlieBrowncanllaith: I also have Intel integrated graphics.
07:55.29CharlieBrowncanllaith: How would you configure it, then?
07:56.10canllaithYou don't need to. It already runs very well in it's default configuration.
07:56.40shtrbCharlieBrown, if you have 3D acceleration all will be ok
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07:59.04CharlieBrownshtrb: Ah... THAT is what I don't have. Welp.
08:00.26shtrbthen disable all desktop effects and start checking what will work
08:00.28vvandeCharlieBrown: note that it is often a good idea to turn off hardware acceleration in Firefox anyway
08:00.43vvande(assuming you like FF)  :)
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08:01.49shtrbare you sure it's not there ? (glxinfo | grep -i rendering )
08:01.56shtrbvvande , why ?
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08:02.25vvandeto make it run smoothly, especially if you see it being jerky
08:02.31vvandeit's a standard suggestion :)
08:02.36shtrbahh
08:02.51vvande(under advanced -> general)
08:03.42vvandeI also run KDE on an older bit of kit. not sure about hardware acceleration there, but I doubt it. -- runs very well. Just so you know.
08:03.48CharlieBrownshtrb: I disabled all desktop effects. It was still slow, and some effects (like minimizing windows) just won't stop.
08:04.07CharlieBrownI'm really considering just i3 or Openbox now.
08:04.20shtrbI have an onboard card with 128 mb
08:04.47shtrbwait , try getting rid of Baloo and any other indexing app
08:05.11CharlieBrownshtrb: Oh, yes. I have yet to try that. Is there a way to do that through text config files? I don't want to go back into Plasma.
08:05.41shtrbThere should be , but I don't know how
08:05.43shtrbsorry
08:05.54CharlieBrownProbably just execute the config app.
08:06.01CharlieBrownBut IDK its name.
08:06.08shtrbsystemsettings ?
08:06.20shtrb*systemsettings5
08:06.39CharlieBrownYes.
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08:07.26shtrbAnyone with access to an envoirment that uses SPNEGO (preferrably websphere) and can check if you can login using Konqueror ?
08:07.37CharlieBrownshtrb: Search?
08:07.47shtrbCharlieBrown , what ?
08:07.56CharlieBrown"Search"?
08:08.27CharlieBrownshtrb: System Settings > Workspace > Search ?
08:08.38shtrbI got , I don't see the setting there
08:08.38shtrbwait
08:09.33shtrbI don't see the button for the disable indexing
08:09.34shtrbsorry
08:09.49shtrbI do not think disabling all in search will get rid of baloo
08:10.52shtrbalso disable "File Search" under the same window
08:12.20kishore96CharlieBrown: balooctl disable
08:14.25vvandekishore96: where do you see that?
08:14.41kishore96I meant run that command in a terminal.
08:14.45vvandeah
08:14.46kishore96balooctl disable
08:15.09CharlieBrownkishore96: How will that be made permanent?
08:15.19kishore96I think it is persistent.
08:15.23vvandeDisabling the File Indexer
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08:15.30vvandeWoot!
08:15.58shtrbkioshare96 , wasn't there a checkbox for that ?
08:16.17kishore96There used to be one. Haven't checked in a while.
08:18.10kishore96IIRC, it is the 'enable file search' checkbox that you mentioned.
08:18.32vvandewhich seems different
08:18.58vvandebecause I've never had it checked, and I still got the "Disabling the file Indexer" when I typed "balooctl disable"
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08:19.35kishore96On my system, I just unchecked it, and the file indexer status (balooctl status) shows as disabled.
08:19.36shtrbKishore96, I expected that unchecking all folders meant they are removed from the list of folders to index , but not to actually disable baloo
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08:20.47shtrbthink that baloo is evil
08:20.56vvandeagrees
08:21.15vvandeI use the find or locate command instead.
08:21.22shtrbsame here
08:22.42kishore96shtrb: I'm talking about the 'enable file search' checkbox on top. http://pasteboard.co/mGIaiDVho.png
08:23.10shtrbI understood
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08:23.40vvandeyep
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08:24.15vvandeit's never been checked here - I'm grateful the default is off
08:24.34shtrbvvande , I do not think you can't really trust baloo
08:24.36kishore96I thought the default was on. xD
08:24.57shtrbin no way to offened , but that is just my opnion
08:25.57vvandeyeah, I'm pretty old school, I just like a few of the features of KDE and have used it for years
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08:26.17vvandeI don't need OS type functionality because I prefer the terminal when possible
08:26.39shtrbfew months (or maybe years) , there was a revelation that by default it was indexing everything (which is a big NO-NO in case you have BYOD at your work place)
08:26.52shtrbfew months ago
08:27.26vvandeI'm using FreeBSD so it is also possible that the KDE in my repository has different defaults.
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08:28.45shtrb*perhaps
08:28.48lordievaderGood morning
08:28.55shtrbGood morning
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08:29.38vvandemorning
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08:33.11vvandeshtrb: I just checked the other KDE installation I have. It's on Debian7. Different search defaults there. In fact "nepomuk" was on by default. Damm, I missed that. It's off now.
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08:33.45shtrbI do not know if nepomuk had an index by default approach
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08:34.44shtrbvvande , if you are ok with loosing dolphin you can get rid of nepomuk and baloo in debian
08:34.53shtrbalso of gwenview
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08:40.04vvandeshtrb: thanks for the info
08:40.48vvandeI do use dolphin, and gwenview though
08:41.01vvandeactually, in Debian?
08:41.22shtrbyes , right now I'm trying to see if I can build it without baloo in the depends
08:41.25vvandehmm, coud be an idea. That machine is mostly for music and a few odd things.
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08:44.36shtrbI don't understand why dolphin and gwenview have that as a hard dependency
08:45.25shtrbis sure not the only one who dislike baloo
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08:48.46shtrbvvande  , moment aren't you the dev behind baloo ?!
08:49.07vvandeshtrb: no :)
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08:49.36shtrbah ok
08:49.46rlyHow do I disable the login sound on Plasma5?
08:49.46vvandethere is some really shitty things going on with KDE development - it pisses me off
08:50.14shtrbvvande ,you can always try to push changes
08:50.18shtrbif you like
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08:51.01vvandewell, my opinion is that a DE shouldn't be trying to do a bunch of stuff. Nobody wants to hear that.
08:51.16vvandeThey'e all Windows fans. Or mac wanabees.
08:51.22shtrblol
08:51.30vvandeI'm so old school, I still run DOS 6.22
08:51.33vvandeno kidding
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08:52.14vvandeIn any case I still like the basics of KDE , and it still works for me.
08:52.30shtrbI feel embarrassed as I'm a windows fanboy , and for some time I set my KDE to look like mac (ages ago)
08:52.40vvandelol
08:53.03vvandewell don't feel embarassed about doing what you like - that's what it's all about
08:53.16shtrbwas doing lot's of kde4win tests /installation in the past
08:53.51shtrbI also do as much as I can in command line on windows/s
08:53.54shtrbdrop the /s
08:54.05vvanderly: Hi - I don't know. :)
08:54.18shtrbrly , there is a sound on login ?
08:54.28shtrbfrom the theme or something else ?
08:54.38vvandeI don't get one.
08:54.43vvandefeels left out.
08:55.08shtrbI think there was one in the theme
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08:56.31shtrbbroke systemsettings
08:57.04vvandethere's a prize for that
08:57.33shtrbvvande , don't uninstall neopmunk on debian it seem to brake systemsetting5
08:57.43shtrbI just learned it the hardway
08:57.48vvandelol
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08:59.06shtrbthat is the worst time to brake stuff for me , going out this evening and I will be without internet connection
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09:00.41vvandegotta have two computers
09:01.06shtrbcorrect , I broke the other one last night
09:01.07vvandeI've got a bunch, becaus I do odd things. But to have a second one with a browser is essential.
09:01.17vvandetwo down?
09:01.19vvandehahah
09:01.24shtrbone and a half
09:01.27vvandeah
09:01.36shtrbone doesn't start , the other has a broken KDE
09:01.38vvandewhen one goes down the other becomes precious
09:01.43shtrbyes
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09:02.15vvandeI just spent over a week with only tty on my main maiche. I broke it totally - no X server, just the basics.
09:02.28vvandeI got it all back and with a new SSD and an updated OS.
09:02.47vvandeBut that would have been near impossible if the Debian box wasn't there with a browser to look up stuff.
09:02.53shtrbbeware of SSD
09:02.58vvandewhy?
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09:03.13shtrbThey are fast ,they make you used to a fast system
09:03.22vvandeyes lol
09:03.30shtrbbut when they brake , and they can brake you feel going back in time
09:03.39vvandeIt's just for the OS, so no safety issues.
09:03.47vvandeit's not all that fast though
09:03.58shtrbfor me it was a huge change
09:04.02vvandeah
09:04.11vvandeI guess my main box is pretty fast.
09:04.26vvandejust an i5 withw 16GB ram, but still . . .
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09:05.02shtrb16GB mean you probabably don't use cache at all
09:05.14vvandeThe GUI is mostly for browsing and email. Most of my writing and file business is in a terminal.
09:05.26vvandeyeah, I don't use any cache
09:05.37shtrbfor emal , Kontact can be a hog
09:05.39vvandeeven with 8GB you'll never see it used even once
09:05.51vvandeEmail = Claws Mail
09:05.53vvandebest one
09:05.58vvandeextremely fast
09:06.14vvandeand capable - I have many accounts and it's no problem
09:06.34shtrbI'm too use to KDE's pim system
09:06.41vvandewhat's that?
09:06.52vvandeoh yeh, personal information system
09:07.01vvandenever touch that stuff
09:07.02shtrbcontacts , emails and lots of usefull stuff
09:07.16vvandeMy DOS box is king at keeping information like that.
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09:07.31vvandenothing in the world touches it for speed and simplicity
09:07.57vvandethat's what DOS was made for - and then the world moved on and made things complicated, fragile, and slow
09:08.13vvandesuit yourself, I said, and kept the old shit. hahaha
09:08.46vvandeon an old P2 mother board DOS runs so fast you can't even get time to see how fast it is
09:09.07vvandeanyway, I'm not normal
09:09.09vvande:(
09:09.12shtrbDoes anyone know what shared library needed for systemsettings5 ? I'm getting org.kde.kcoreaddons: Error loading plugin "kcm_lookandfeel" "The shared library was not found."  
09:09.12shtrbPlugin search paths are ("/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins", "/usr/bin")  
09:09.12shtrbThe environment variable QT_PLUGIN_PATH might be not correctly set
09:09.12shtrbError loading plugin: "The shared library was not found."
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09:09.31shtrbvvande , it just works so why not ?
09:09.36vvandeyep
09:09.48vvandetook me some years to get that kind of grip though
09:10.04vvandethe dos box is networked with my other stuff now
09:10.51vvandedid you loose some libraries when you uninstalled nepomuk? Is that what you're showing me?
09:10.57shtrbyes
09:11.11shtrbseems like it
09:11.13vvandehmm
09:11.17vvanderatsnest
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09:45.24shtrbthat was a very bad idea
09:46.05shtrbto touch plasma , had to reinstall KDE plasma to get it back working
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09:48.38isemenovgood afternoon
09:48.46isemenovis the kde admin channel gone? can't find it right now
09:49.23vvandehi isemenov
09:49.49vvandeshtrb: live and learn ;)
09:50.13vvandemy plasma locks up all the time - I thought it was supposed to do that
09:51.11vvandeI just kill it and type "plasma-destop" and it's all good again - except all my terminals end up on the left side of their desktops.
09:53.35shtrbvvande , that is a very bad time for me after reinstall KDE again looks horrible
09:53.46shtrbit was looking so nice (the fonts ) and now it looks %%#
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09:56.51shtrbmorning rindolf
09:57.34rindolfshtrb: morning
09:57.52rindolfshtrb: what's new?
09:58.08shtrblearned the hardway not to touch plasma on KDE :-(
09:58.18shtrbhad to reinstall
09:59.09rindolfshtrb: reinstall what?
09:59.17shtrbKDE
09:59.28shtrbplasma-desktop and many other packages
09:59.30asturmhow do you reinstall a community?
09:59.39shtrblol
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10:00.23vvandeshtrb: how come it looks different from before?
10:00.31vvandedid you delete the configs?
10:00.41shtrbno delete , just package reinstall
10:01.05shtrbthe fonts look less "sharp" , don't know how to express it
10:01.15vvandehmm, I did a complete reinstall of all my programs, includine KDE, and it kept the same configuration - everything the same
10:01.18asturmit shouldn't look an ounce different
10:01.19leszekshtrb: you can  configure this
10:01.40shtrbleszek , I didn't change the config , just reinstalled the packages
10:01.56leszekoh ... oh really
10:02.06shtrbI also broke everything before ....
10:02.26vvandethat shouldn't touch the .kde4 directory
10:02.35asturmvvande: .kde4 is gone
10:02.43vvandeoh?
10:02.45asturmof course if you change stuff in /usr/share that will be overwritten by package reinstall
10:02.48vvandethat's what I'm using
10:02.56asturmvvande: then you're using kde sc 4
10:03.01vvandeok
10:03.34vvandethat's all that's in the repositories I guess
10:03.37shtrbmaybe some default got lost , prior for me giving up I got some "org.kde.kcoreaddons: Error loading plugin "kcm_lookandfeel" "The shared library was not found."  " and when ever I clicked on kicker about missing files from a qml
10:04.18shtrbsomething about private and  /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/   
10:04.36asturmvvande: kf5-based packages store their configs in ~/.config
10:04.43vvandeok
10:05.13leszekshtrb: maybe a package is missing. Can you make a screenshot on how it looks like
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10:05.27shtrbmoment
10:08.19vvandeI'm guessing that KDE frameworks is a Linux only thing. I haven't seen it before.
10:09.32leszekvvande: its the base for kde applications and plasma
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10:11.11vvandeleszek: thanks, I run FreeBSD and have't seen it that way. KDE4 is what they call the latest one in my world. lol
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10:12.03leszekvvande: ah ok. Though I saw Plasma 5 already in pcbsd (or how they are called now) repos
10:12.35shtrbfound it , the screen resultion changed
10:12.46shtrbdon't know how I manged to brake that too
10:13.01vvandecould be in PC-BSD - I haven't looked at that in a bit - but they'd be the ones to do that first for sure
10:13.06shtrbleszek ^ thanks
10:13.32leszeknice :)
10:14.09shtrbmoral of the story do not try to uninstall baloo and nepomunk on debian
10:14.10ltosky[m]no, Frameworks is not a Linux-only thing, look for the KDE-FreeBSD project
10:14.32vvandeI will.
10:14.44vvandeThe handbook only mentions kde4 though.
10:14.49ltosky[m]well, we are confusing releases a bit, and Debian 7 is a bit outdated
10:15.17vvandewho's running Debian 7?
10:15.23shtrbif there debian sid maintainers around please make it possible to uninstall kf5-baloo without braking the system
10:15.49shtrb*if there are
10:16.16ltosky[m]didn't you write about debian 7 earlier? I may have misresd
10:16.26vvandeltosky[m]: yes I did :)
10:16.40vvandethat's a side machine that i don't bother fiddeling with - it just works
10:16.49ltosky[m]uh, why (baloo)? It's a library, no harm done
10:16.52vvandemy main box is FreeBSD and that's where I get concerned about stuff
10:16.59ltosky[m]You can leave where it is
10:17.23shtrbItosky[m] , baloo is greedy and was found once to index stuff without user permission
10:17.31einar77_workbalooctl disable
10:18.00ltosky[m]that's not a reason, sorry
10:18.12shtrbeinar77_work , I think it would be benifitial if you could remove it absolutly
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10:18.21ltosky[m]no
10:18.37ltosky[m]You want only to have it disabled
10:18.44shtrbltosky[m], if you come to a time that you do not trust a library / deamon you should be able to get rid of it
10:18.58ltosky[m]amen
10:19.03vvandelol
10:19.10shtrbltosky[m] , some people may like it disabled I don't wish to have it installed at all
10:19.19shtrbwhy should I waste time and space on it ?
10:19.38vvandethere's plenty of space
10:19.51ltosky[m]waste space is not an argument for this case, really
10:19.52leszekshtrb: good thing it is free software. Feel free to modify the code in such a way you can remove it :)
10:20.08shtrbleszek , I tried this morning
10:20.21shtrbgot KDE broken in a way that I had to renistall packages
10:20.27leszekso you noticed that it isn't that easily done
10:20.31vvandeI like the UNIX approace where things are independent - but I don't expect that from KDE
10:20.34shtrbthat is why I asked nicly :)
10:21.06leszekshtrb: that isn't a task of just removing packages it needs code changes aswell. So not trivial
10:21.13ltosky[m]vvande things may be independent but a certain level
10:21.34shtrbleszek , I started with uninstalling and attempt to rebuild with out it
10:21.42shtrbwhen I found out I borke KDE I stoped
10:21.56vvandeI don't think integartion is a good thing. But like I say, I accept KDE on it's own terms because I like parts of it.
10:22.11vvandes/intergartion/integartion
10:22.55leszekvvande: integration is one of the key features of the KDE Plasma desktop and one thing people like the most. To have a fully integrated desktop. You cannot have both either the one or the other
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10:23.24vvandeleszek: I know. I think it's too bad.
10:23.39vvandeto me an OS is not the same as a DE
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10:24.26vvandeI've never ever used Windows in my 35 years in computers so the idea of an integrated OS/DE is foreign to me.
10:24.49vvandeIn any case, I accept what I can get from free software. :)
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10:25.19vvandeand I respect that others have different ideas
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10:27.03shtrbleszek , remember when baloo was indexing everything ?
10:27.15t-askHi, I'm searching a Pomodoro widget. Unfortunately I can't find one. Is there one available for Plasma?
10:27.19shtrbdo you think it can be trusted after it ?
10:29.13leszekshtrb: baloo works fine on all of my systems here
10:29.33shtrbI didn't say it worked in a non fine way , but it choices have implications
10:30.15leszekI think the defaults are good enough. At least I never had problems with baloo in contrast to nepomuk
10:30.17shtrbthe fact it used to index everything except a list of predefined folders is a HUGE issue for some users
10:30.28vvandeshtrb: what kind of "trust" are you talking about?
10:30.52leszekshtrb: what kind of HUGE issue ? Don't you want you pr0n be indexed :P ?
10:30.55shtrbvvande , the defaults (when it is enable or not)
10:31.21shtrbleszek, BYOD and work envoirement ....
10:31.24vvandewell if you can disable it with a simple command, then I don't see an issue
10:31.50shtrbYou assume something will not switch that state
10:32.03vvandeand also, if you can chose the directories that it excludes, just add them all like "/home" is probably enough to turn it off lol
10:32.21einar77_workshtrb: that's left for integrators to enable/disable (aka distributions9
10:32.23leszekyeah you can turn it off. There are also some distros by default turning it off I guess
10:32.27leszekso I don't see the problem
10:32.51vvandemy desdtop search was off by default
10:33.02vvandeaccording to the GUI
10:33.03shtrbso if it is possible to "disable" it why not an option to remove it ?
10:33.27vvandeI'd use Fluxbox in your case. haha
10:33.38shtrbbut I liked kde (minus baloo)
10:33.54shtrb*like no past tense
10:34.29vvandefunny, but I'm the one who doesn't use 90% of KDE features - I just want the right colours easily configured
10:34.43vvandethat's my excuse for using KDE :)
10:34.52vvandeI just ignore all the rest.
10:35.04shtrbI use KDE for Kontact and konqueror mostly :)
10:35.13vvandeoh yeah, Konq is great
10:35.18leszekshtrb: were looping right now in topic
10:35.31leszek*we're
10:35.38vvande;)
10:35.55shtrbyes
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10:40.04shtrbDoes anyone have a suggestion for a  widget that can interact with akregator ?
10:40.08shtrb*plasmoid
10:42.22shtrbspeaking of konqueror anyone with Spnego system around ?
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10:48.30leszekanyone knows about khotkeys not working anymore after kf5.30 update ? I mean kcmshell5 khotkeys opens up a transparent window which seems to freeze
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10:51.08leszekwell I try compiling khotkeys anew against it lets see if it fixes the issue
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11:04.04vladimiroffIs there definitive list of KDE projects still using WebKit instead of Qt WebEngine?
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11:11.25yossarianukhi - running kubuntu 16.10 + Plasma 5.8 PPA - how can I change pidgin notification volume ?
11:11.36yossarianuki.e when I get a notication I can see the volume in the application volume  in 'audio volume' however as soon as the sound finishes I cannot see it any longer and when another sound occurs  it goes to the default volume
11:12.19leszeknice new khotkeys version fixed the issue
11:13.18leszekyossarianuk: this means you are not fast enough changing the volume because it dissappears to fast ?
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11:19.38yossarianukleszek: yes and it seems if I do some how manage to slide the volume the next notication goes back to default volume
11:19.58shtrbyossarianuk, wasn't it a pulseaudio issue ?
11:20.13shtrbwhen apps will go to the max in case of a new notification ?
11:20.16leszekyossarianuk: do you maybe have flat volume support enabled in pulseaudio?
11:20.32shtrbwhat leszek said
11:21.21leszekyossarianuk: you can check by looking into /etc/pulse/daemon.conf and search for flat-volumes
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11:22.16shtrbflat-volumes = no
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11:24.06yossarianukyes - its set to = no
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11:24.17shtrbis it uncommented ?
11:24.33yossarianuknope
11:24.49shtrbthen uncomment (no ; or # in front of it)
11:25.05yossarianukok - trhank
11:25.08yossarianuk*thanks*
11:26.51shtrbSpeaking of pulseaudio is there a KDE app for it ?
11:27.36shtrbI mean something which is integrated into systemsettings
11:27.41yossarianukI think in kubuntu pulseaudio is used by default
11:28.04yossarianukoh - you mean a QT based app ?
11:28.04toskyshtrb: a *Plasma* application, yes, the new plasma-pa
11:28.59shtrbis looking for a package
11:29.00shtrbthanks
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11:36.44tcanabrava_shtrb: kmix uses pulseaudio
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11:47.44shtrbcanabrava_, I found the setting I needed under multimedia
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11:59.31yossarianukfairly major issue...  I have dual screen - if I try to use the right click menu on the right screen (i.e using dolphin) on an icon near the right of the screen the right click menu doesn't open
11:59.41yossarianuksorry - I dont mean the inital right click menu - i mean the sub menu - i.e right click on icon -> open-with (for example)
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12:00.01yossarianuk[11:55] <yossarianuk> i.e I cannot use right click menu unless I drag the icon to the left of the screen on the right monitor - its like it cant open as its trying to open to the right but its the screen edge...
12:00.12yossarianuk[11:58] <yossarianuk> if I hover over (for exmaple) open-with -> nothing happens I see no sub menu unless I drag the dolphin screen over to the left of the screen
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12:04.48BluesKajHi folks
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12:05.09yossarianukits not just dolphin its all apps.
12:05.21yossarianukall kde apps
12:05.32yossarianukfirefox for example is ok - the sub menu opens to the left
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12:06.55shtrbyossarianuk , try goint to a different vt and then back
12:09.02asturmleszek: well, baloo _is_ optional
12:09.17asturmbut it involves building a few packages with the option turned off
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12:09.48asturmand that's not something that a binary distro is usually going to provide
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12:12.19shtrbasturm ,  can you try building dolphin ?
12:12.37asturmshtrb: pardon?
12:12.54shtrbcan you try building dolphin withou baloo
12:13.17asturmshtrb: I don't have to try, I have done it
12:14.16shtrboh , I didn't understand , it worked flawlessly (the build) ?
12:14.34asturmeverything works flawlessly
12:15.03asturm(not with more flaws than usual)
12:15.13shtrbchecks his packeging skills because dolphin (the version in debian failed to build when he tried to disable it)
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12:16.21asturmshtrb: basically you build with -DCMAKE_DISABLE_FIND_PACKAGE_KF5{Baloo,BalooWidgets,FileMetaData}=ON
12:23.18yossarianukshtrb: doesn't help - I have nvidia/optimus if that helps
12:23.46shtrbsorry
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14:57.33killownwhat's going on with plasma 5.8? new home user fresh install and missing icons from eveywhere?
14:57.43killowntried to change the icon theme but didn't fix
14:58.17toskykillown: right click -> configure... -> how is the layout?
14:58.24toskyfolder view or desktop?
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14:59.08killowntosky, no icons in the panel meny, systemsettings, everywhere
14:59.12killownnot only in the desktop
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14:59.21killownthe desktop went for the text mode
14:59.44toskykillown: that would be a big issue, but given that it was not reported around, I would suggest an issue with your configuration
14:59.52toskyhow did you install Plasma?
14:59.59killownconfiguration?
15:00.04killownI am using a new home user
15:00.14killownpacman -S plasma
15:00.42toskyplease ask on archlinux channels
15:00.54killownhttps://bpaste.net/show/5d434e0bdf85
15:01.06toskymy first guess is something distribution-related
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18:42.01ntldrI'm not sure does this question belong here but I've tried to get numix icon theme to work with arch linux w/ KDE but some icons are missing.. so I guess numix doesn't fully support KDE yet? for example pidgin tray icon is just white empty icon..
18:42.46asturmntldr: pidgin isn't even KDE related
18:43.34ntldrno, but it's strange that in mate numix was working correctly but in kde it doesn't.
18:43.37ntldricons missing
18:45.02rdieterntldr: as far as I know, systray icons are... special.  often do not use icon theme anyway
18:45.36rdieterntldr: or... in this case, the problem being pidgin's use of legacy/xembed systray may be not-working/incompatible
18:46.25rdieterntldr: see also https://launchpad.net/pidgin-indicator
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18:46.51rdieterfor a pidgin plugin to make it work with modern systray implementations (like plasma or unity)
18:47.41rdietersorry, make that https://github.com/philipl/pidgin-indicator
18:47.46rdieter(copy-n-paste fail)
18:48.01ntldrthe only "fix" I found was to select from icons menu numix circle, go to application style -> gnome application -> icon theme (set something else) -> fallback (something else) = done now it shows up correctly but different icon set obviously
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19:27.42ntldris that KDE shutdown sequence suppose to be so slow? I've my OS on SSD obviously but when I press shutdown it takes several seconds before it's completely off.. if I open up terminal type shutdown now it goes off instantly.. I find this bit odd
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19:31.54rdieterntldr: several seconds is slow?  heh
19:32.33rdieterfyi, terminal shutdown just kills everything in your user session.  session shutdown closes apps gracefully (ie, asks them to exit and save state, etc...)
19:33.17ntldrright so it's suppose to do that
19:33.26ntldrcoz I wasn't sure actually..
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21:08.45baschtHi all! Just dropping by on my bi-yearly »Let's give KDE / Plasma« another try tour and it really looks good so far. :)
21:10.11baschtThe only thing bugging me currently is one simple but annoying thing: I'm missing the gtk-key-theme I could set in GNOME, which makes all applications adhere to the Emacs shortcuts (Ctrl-Movements, et. al) – is there anything alike in KDE meanwhile? The only way seems to be re-mapping all keys manually. :-/
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22:43.38MutoThat KDE 5.9 looks interesting.
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