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01:04.24 | ShalokShalom | hi there :) |
01:04.26 | ShalokShalom | is it possible to add tracks to the query in KDE`s context menu? |
01:04.28 | ShalokShalom | there is such an entry for SMPlayer here |
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03:00.37 | adymitruk | Anyone else notice that unicode support is missing from the KDE neon in the widgets and network names? |
03:01.25 | adymitruk | It's supported on Kubuntu. So I was surprised that I just get the square placeholder in KDE Neon |
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03:28.33 | adymitruk | I'm also using a Chromebook Pixel from 2013. On kubuntu, I had the lid suspending properly. With KDE neon, I have it turing the power off. Is there a way to have the suspend function back? |
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04:28.01 | enolc | Hi everyone!! I am new to kde development. Can anyone guide me how to contribute to kde? |
04:29.24 | Svetlana | hi enolc :) pick a program whose codebase you are ready to study and improve, install a few apps and get started ( https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/development has extra info ) |
04:31.56 | enolc | thanks Svetlana ! I have some knowledge about C++ and Qt. Can you tell me the best project that suits me? |
04:35.10 | vvande | one that interests you would be a good start :) |
04:35.53 | Svetlana | enolc: it sounds like a good thing, but it's a tool; to make a good start you need to find something that is interesting to program for |
04:36.09 | Svetlana | just "I want to use this tool to do anything because this tool looks promising" won't get you far |
04:36.29 | Svetlana | there are tiny tasks listed here: https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&keywords=junior-jobs&list_id=1340815 |
04:36.43 | Svetlana | see if any of them looks attractive |
04:36.59 | Svetlana | first look at the component column |
04:37.08 | Svetlana | and skim the list to get an idea of which components are available |
04:37.16 | Svetlana | and see whether any one of them looks interesting |
04:38.49 | Svetlana | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365182 this perhaps looks small for example (if you like plots) you could try to build the program from source and confirm that you can see the bug. once that is done, the remaining work is much less |
04:39.13 | Svetlana | and there is #kde-devel where people are a bit more hacker style than here |
04:39.20 | Svetlana | which I just joined, too |
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05:42.25 | vvande | How do you edit key bindings in Settings->EditCurrentProfile->Keyboard ? |
05:42.33 | vvande | I still can't figure that one out. |
05:44.00 | vvande | From what I can tell, it misinterprets the contentes as shortcuts. |
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06:00.10 | CharlieBrown | My computer is a Thinkpad X200 with 4 GB RAM. How do I optimize KDE for this? |
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06:20.04 | vvande | what kind of optiization were you thinking about? |
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06:29.59 | adymitruk | Why is my profile picture not shown on the KDE Neon login screen? |
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06:55.42 | valorie | adymitruk: you might ask in #kde-neon |
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07:11.28 | shalok | Is there any way to hide specific applications in the application menu? |
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07:38.57 | adymitruk | thank you valorie |
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07:53.39 | canllaith | CharlieBrown: that is more than sufficient to run KDE |
07:53.50 | canllaith | CharlieBrown: it runs very well on my celeron with 2GB memory :) |
07:55.18 | CharlieBrown | canllaith: I also have Intel integrated graphics. |
07:55.29 | CharlieBrown | canllaith: How would you configure it, then? |
07:56.10 | canllaith | You don't need to. It already runs very well in it's default configuration. |
07:56.40 | shtrb | CharlieBrown, if you have 3D acceleration all will be ok |
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07:59.04 | CharlieBrown | shtrb: Ah... THAT is what I don't have. Welp. |
08:00.26 | shtrb | then disable all desktop effects and start checking what will work |
08:00.28 | vvande | CharlieBrown: note that it is often a good idea to turn off hardware acceleration in Firefox anyway |
08:00.43 | vvande | (assuming you like FF) :) |
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08:01.49 | shtrb | are you sure it's not there ? (glxinfo | grep -i rendering ) |
08:01.56 | shtrb | vvande , why ? |
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08:02.25 | vvande | to make it run smoothly, especially if you see it being jerky |
08:02.31 | vvande | it's a standard suggestion :) |
08:02.36 | shtrb | ahh |
08:02.51 | vvande | (under advanced -> general) |
08:03.42 | vvande | I also run KDE on an older bit of kit. not sure about hardware acceleration there, but I doubt it. -- runs very well. Just so you know. |
08:03.48 | CharlieBrown | shtrb: I disabled all desktop effects. It was still slow, and some effects (like minimizing windows) just won't stop. |
08:04.07 | CharlieBrown | I'm really considering just i3 or Openbox now. |
08:04.20 | shtrb | I have an onboard card with 128 mb |
08:04.47 | shtrb | wait , try getting rid of Baloo and any other indexing app |
08:05.11 | CharlieBrown | shtrb: Oh, yes. I have yet to try that. Is there a way to do that through text config files? I don't want to go back into Plasma. |
08:05.41 | shtrb | There should be , but I don't know how |
08:05.43 | shtrb | sorry |
08:05.54 | CharlieBrown | Probably just execute the config app. |
08:06.01 | CharlieBrown | But IDK its name. |
08:06.08 | shtrb | systemsettings ? |
08:06.20 | shtrb | *systemsettings5 |
08:06.39 | CharlieBrown | Yes. |
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08:07.26 | shtrb | Anyone with access to an envoirment that uses SPNEGO (preferrably websphere) and can check if you can login using Konqueror ? |
08:07.37 | CharlieBrown | shtrb: Search? |
08:07.47 | shtrb | CharlieBrown , what ? |
08:07.56 | CharlieBrown | "Search"? |
08:08.27 | CharlieBrown | shtrb: System Settings > Workspace > Search ? |
08:08.38 | shtrb | I got , I don't see the setting there |
08:08.38 | shtrb | wait |
08:09.33 | shtrb | I don't see the button for the disable indexing |
08:09.34 | shtrb | sorry |
08:09.49 | shtrb | I do not think disabling all in search will get rid of baloo |
08:10.52 | shtrb | also disable "File Search" under the same window |
08:12.20 | kishore96 | CharlieBrown: balooctl disable |
08:14.25 | vvande | kishore96: where do you see that? |
08:14.41 | kishore96 | I meant run that command in a terminal. |
08:14.45 | vvande | ah |
08:14.46 | kishore96 | balooctl disable |
08:15.09 | CharlieBrown | kishore96: How will that be made permanent? |
08:15.19 | kishore96 | I think it is persistent. |
08:15.23 | vvande | Disabling the File Indexer |
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08:15.30 | vvande | Woot! |
08:15.58 | shtrb | kioshare96 , wasn't there a checkbox for that ? |
08:16.17 | kishore96 | There used to be one. Haven't checked in a while. |
08:18.10 | kishore96 | IIRC, it is the 'enable file search' checkbox that you mentioned. |
08:18.32 | vvande | which seems different |
08:18.58 | vvande | because I've never had it checked, and I still got the "Disabling the file Indexer" when I typed "balooctl disable" |
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08:19.35 | kishore96 | On my system, I just unchecked it, and the file indexer status (balooctl status) shows as disabled. |
08:19.36 | shtrb | Kishore96, I expected that unchecking all folders meant they are removed from the list of folders to index , but not to actually disable baloo |
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08:20.47 | shtrb | think that baloo is evil |
08:20.56 | vvande | agrees |
08:21.15 | vvande | I use the find or locate command instead. |
08:21.22 | shtrb | same here |
08:22.42 | kishore96 | shtrb: I'm talking about the 'enable file search' checkbox on top. http://pasteboard.co/mGIaiDVho.png |
08:23.10 | shtrb | I understood |
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08:23.40 | vvande | yep |
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08:24.15 | vvande | it's never been checked here - I'm grateful the default is off |
08:24.34 | shtrb | vvande , I do not think you can't really trust baloo |
08:24.36 | kishore96 | I thought the default was on. xD |
08:24.57 | shtrb | in no way to offened , but that is just my opnion |
08:25.57 | vvande | yeah, I'm pretty old school, I just like a few of the features of KDE and have used it for years |
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08:26.17 | vvande | I don't need OS type functionality because I prefer the terminal when possible |
08:26.39 | shtrb | few months (or maybe years) , there was a revelation that by default it was indexing everything (which is a big NO-NO in case you have BYOD at your work place) |
08:26.52 | shtrb | few months ago |
08:27.26 | vvande | I'm using FreeBSD so it is also possible that the KDE in my repository has different defaults. |
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08:28.45 | shtrb | *perhaps |
08:28.48 | lordievader | Good morning |
08:28.55 | shtrb | Good morning |
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08:29.38 | vvande | morning |
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08:33.11 | vvande | shtrb: I just checked the other KDE installation I have. It's on Debian7. Different search defaults there. In fact "nepomuk" was on by default. Damm, I missed that. It's off now. |
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08:33.45 | shtrb | I do not know if nepomuk had an index by default approach |
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08:34.44 | shtrb | vvande , if you are ok with loosing dolphin you can get rid of nepomuk and baloo in debian |
08:34.53 | shtrb | also of gwenview |
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08:40.04 | vvande | shtrb: thanks for the info |
08:40.48 | vvande | I do use dolphin, and gwenview though |
08:41.01 | vvande | actually, in Debian? |
08:41.22 | shtrb | yes , right now I'm trying to see if I can build it without baloo in the depends |
08:41.25 | vvande | hmm, coud be an idea. That machine is mostly for music and a few odd things. |
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08:44.36 | shtrb | I don't understand why dolphin and gwenview have that as a hard dependency |
08:45.25 | shtrb | is sure not the only one who dislike baloo |
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08:48.46 | shtrb | vvande , moment aren't you the dev behind baloo ?! |
08:49.07 | vvande | shtrb: no :) |
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08:49.36 | shtrb | ah ok |
08:49.46 | rly | How do I disable the login sound on Plasma5? |
08:49.46 | vvande | there is some really shitty things going on with KDE development - it pisses me off |
08:50.14 | shtrb | vvande ,you can always try to push changes |
08:50.18 | shtrb | if you like |
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08:51.01 | vvande | well, my opinion is that a DE shouldn't be trying to do a bunch of stuff. Nobody wants to hear that. |
08:51.16 | vvande | They'e all Windows fans. Or mac wanabees. |
08:51.22 | shtrb | lol |
08:51.30 | vvande | I'm so old school, I still run DOS 6.22 |
08:51.33 | vvande | no kidding |
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08:52.14 | vvande | In any case I still like the basics of KDE , and it still works for me. |
08:52.30 | shtrb | I feel embarrassed as I'm a windows fanboy , and for some time I set my KDE to look like mac (ages ago) |
08:52.40 | vvande | lol |
08:53.03 | vvande | well don't feel embarassed about doing what you like - that's what it's all about |
08:53.16 | shtrb | was doing lot's of kde4win tests /installation in the past |
08:53.51 | shtrb | I also do as much as I can in command line on windows/s |
08:53.54 | shtrb | drop the /s |
08:54.05 | vvande | rly: Hi - I don't know. :) |
08:54.18 | shtrb | rly , there is a sound on login ? |
08:54.28 | shtrb | from the theme or something else ? |
08:54.38 | vvande | I don't get one. |
08:54.43 | vvande | feels left out. |
08:55.08 | shtrb | I think there was one in the theme |
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08:56.31 | shtrb | broke systemsettings |
08:57.04 | vvande | there's a prize for that |
08:57.33 | shtrb | vvande , don't uninstall neopmunk on debian it seem to brake systemsetting5 |
08:57.43 | shtrb | I just learned it the hardway |
08:57.48 | vvande | lol |
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08:59.06 | shtrb | that is the worst time to brake stuff for me , going out this evening and I will be without internet connection |
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09:00.41 | vvande | gotta have two computers |
09:01.06 | shtrb | correct , I broke the other one last night |
09:01.07 | vvande | I've got a bunch, becaus I do odd things. But to have a second one with a browser is essential. |
09:01.17 | vvande | two down? |
09:01.19 | vvande | hahah |
09:01.24 | shtrb | one and a half |
09:01.27 | vvande | ah |
09:01.36 | shtrb | one doesn't start , the other has a broken KDE |
09:01.38 | vvande | when one goes down the other becomes precious |
09:01.43 | shtrb | yes |
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09:02.15 | vvande | I just spent over a week with only tty on my main maiche. I broke it totally - no X server, just the basics. |
09:02.28 | vvande | I got it all back and with a new SSD and an updated OS. |
09:02.47 | vvande | But that would have been near impossible if the Debian box wasn't there with a browser to look up stuff. |
09:02.53 | shtrb | beware of SSD |
09:02.58 | vvande | why? |
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09:03.13 | shtrb | They are fast ,they make you used to a fast system |
09:03.22 | vvande | yes lol |
09:03.30 | shtrb | but when they brake , and they can brake you feel going back in time |
09:03.39 | vvande | It's just for the OS, so no safety issues. |
09:03.47 | vvande | it's not all that fast though |
09:03.58 | shtrb | for me it was a huge change |
09:04.02 | vvande | ah |
09:04.11 | vvande | I guess my main box is pretty fast. |
09:04.26 | vvande | just an i5 withw 16GB ram, but still . . . |
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09:05.02 | shtrb | 16GB mean you probabably don't use cache at all |
09:05.14 | vvande | The GUI is mostly for browsing and email. Most of my writing and file business is in a terminal. |
09:05.26 | vvande | yeah, I don't use any cache |
09:05.37 | shtrb | for emal , Kontact can be a hog |
09:05.39 | vvande | even with 8GB you'll never see it used even once |
09:05.51 | vvande | Email = Claws Mail |
09:05.53 | vvande | best one |
09:05.58 | vvande | extremely fast |
09:06.14 | vvande | and capable - I have many accounts and it's no problem |
09:06.34 | shtrb | I'm too use to KDE's pim system |
09:06.41 | vvande | what's that? |
09:06.52 | vvande | oh yeh, personal information system |
09:07.01 | vvande | never touch that stuff |
09:07.02 | shtrb | contacts , emails and lots of usefull stuff |
09:07.16 | vvande | My DOS box is king at keeping information like that. |
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09:07.31 | vvande | nothing in the world touches it for speed and simplicity |
09:07.57 | vvande | that's what DOS was made for - and then the world moved on and made things complicated, fragile, and slow |
09:08.13 | vvande | suit yourself, I said, and kept the old shit. hahaha |
09:08.46 | vvande | on an old P2 mother board DOS runs so fast you can't even get time to see how fast it is |
09:09.07 | vvande | anyway, I'm not normal |
09:09.09 | vvande | :( |
09:09.12 | shtrb | Does anyone know what shared library needed for systemsettings5 ? I'm getting org.kde.kcoreaddons: Error loading plugin "kcm_lookandfeel" "The shared library was not found." Â |
09:09.12 | shtrb | Plugin search paths are ("/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins", "/usr/bin") Â |
09:09.12 | shtrb | The environment variable QT_PLUGIN_PATH might be not correctly set |
09:09.12 | shtrb | Error loading plugin: "The shared library was not found." |
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09:09.31 | shtrb | vvande , it just works so why not ? |
09:09.36 | vvande | yep |
09:09.48 | vvande | took me some years to get that kind of grip though |
09:10.04 | vvande | the dos box is networked with my other stuff now |
09:10.51 | vvande | did you loose some libraries when you uninstalled nepomuk? Is that what you're showing me? |
09:10.57 | shtrb | yes |
09:11.11 | shtrb | seems like it |
09:11.13 | vvande | hmm |
09:11.17 | vvande | ratsnest |
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09:17.37 | shtrb | brb |
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09:45.24 | shtrb | that was a very bad idea |
09:46.05 | shtrb | to touch plasma , had to reinstall KDE plasma to get it back working |
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09:48.38 | isemenov | good afternoon |
09:48.46 | isemenov | is the kde admin channel gone? can't find it right now |
09:49.23 | vvande | hi isemenov |
09:49.49 | vvande | shtrb: live and learn ;) |
09:50.13 | vvande | my plasma locks up all the time - I thought it was supposed to do that |
09:51.11 | vvande | I just kill it and type "plasma-destop" and it's all good again - except all my terminals end up on the left side of their desktops. |
09:53.35 | shtrb | vvande , that is a very bad time for me after reinstall KDE again looks horrible |
09:53.46 | shtrb | it was looking so nice (the fonts ) and now it looks %%# |
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09:56.51 | shtrb | morning rindolf |
09:57.34 | rindolf | shtrb: morning |
09:57.52 | rindolf | shtrb: what's new? |
09:58.08 | shtrb | learned the hardway not to touch plasma on KDE :-( |
09:58.18 | shtrb | had to reinstall |
09:59.09 | rindolf | shtrb: reinstall what? |
09:59.17 | shtrb | KDE |
09:59.28 | shtrb | plasma-desktop and many other packages |
09:59.30 | asturm | how do you reinstall a community? |
09:59.39 | shtrb | lol |
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10:00.23 | vvande | shtrb: how come it looks different from before? |
10:00.31 | vvande | did you delete the configs? |
10:00.41 | shtrb | no delete , just package reinstall |
10:01.05 | shtrb | the fonts look less "sharp" , don't know how to express it |
10:01.15 | vvande | hmm, I did a complete reinstall of all my programs, includine KDE, and it kept the same configuration - everything the same |
10:01.18 | asturm | it shouldn't look an ounce different |
10:01.19 | leszek | shtrb: you can configure this |
10:01.40 | shtrb | leszek , I didn't change the config , just reinstalled the packages |
10:01.56 | leszek | oh ... oh really |
10:02.06 | shtrb | I also broke everything before .... |
10:02.26 | vvande | that shouldn't touch the .kde4 directory |
10:02.35 | asturm | vvande: .kde4 is gone |
10:02.43 | vvande | oh? |
10:02.45 | asturm | of course if you change stuff in /usr/share that will be overwritten by package reinstall |
10:02.48 | vvande | that's what I'm using |
10:02.56 | asturm | vvande: then you're using kde sc 4 |
10:03.01 | vvande | ok |
10:03.34 | vvande | that's all that's in the repositories I guess |
10:03.37 | shtrb | maybe some default got lost , prior for me giving up I got some "org.kde.kcoreaddons: Error loading plugin "kcm_lookandfeel" "The shared library was not found." Â " and when ever I clicked on kicker about missing files from a qml |
10:04.18 | shtrb | something about private and /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/ Â Â |
10:04.36 | asturm | vvande: kf5-based packages store their configs in ~/.config |
10:04.43 | vvande | ok |
10:05.13 | leszek | shtrb: maybe a package is missing. Can you make a screenshot on how it looks like |
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10:05.27 | shtrb | moment |
10:08.19 | vvande | I'm guessing that KDE frameworks is a Linux only thing. I haven't seen it before. |
10:09.32 | leszek | vvande: its the base for kde applications and plasma |
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10:11.11 | vvande | leszek: thanks, I run FreeBSD and have't seen it that way. KDE4 is what they call the latest one in my world. lol |
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10:12.03 | leszek | vvande: ah ok. Though I saw Plasma 5 already in pcbsd (or how they are called now) repos |
10:12.35 | shtrb | found it , the screen resultion changed |
10:12.46 | shtrb | don't know how I manged to brake that too |
10:13.01 | vvande | could be in PC-BSD - I haven't looked at that in a bit - but they'd be the ones to do that first for sure |
10:13.06 | shtrb | leszek ^ thanks |
10:13.32 | leszek | nice :) |
10:14.09 | shtrb | moral of the story do not try to uninstall baloo and nepomunk on debian |
10:14.10 | ltosky[m] | no, Frameworks is not a Linux-only thing, look for the KDE-FreeBSD project |
10:14.32 | vvande | I will. |
10:14.44 | vvande | The handbook only mentions kde4 though. |
10:14.49 | ltosky[m] | well, we are confusing releases a bit, and Debian 7 is a bit outdated |
10:15.17 | vvande | who's running Debian 7? |
10:15.23 | shtrb | if there debian sid maintainers around please make it possible to uninstall kf5-baloo without braking the system |
10:15.49 | shtrb | *if there are |
10:16.16 | ltosky[m] | didn't you write about debian 7 earlier? I may have misresd |
10:16.26 | vvande | ltosky[m]: yes I did :) |
10:16.40 | vvande | that's a side machine that i don't bother fiddeling with - it just works |
10:16.49 | ltosky[m] | uh, why (baloo)? It's a library, no harm done |
10:16.52 | vvande | my main box is FreeBSD and that's where I get concerned about stuff |
10:16.59 | ltosky[m] | You can leave where it is |
10:17.23 | shtrb | Itosky[m] , baloo is greedy and was found once to index stuff without user permission |
10:17.31 | einar77_work | balooctl disable |
10:18.00 | ltosky[m] | that's not a reason, sorry |
10:18.12 | shtrb | einar77_work , I think it would be benifitial if you could remove it absolutly |
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10:18.21 | ltosky[m] | no |
10:18.37 | ltosky[m] | You want only to have it disabled |
10:18.44 | shtrb | ltosky[m], if you come to a time that you do not trust a library / deamon you should be able to get rid of it |
10:18.58 | ltosky[m] | amen |
10:19.03 | vvande | lol |
10:19.10 | shtrb | ltosky[m] , some people may like it disabled I don't wish to have it installed at all |
10:19.19 | shtrb | why should I waste time and space on it ? |
10:19.38 | vvande | there's plenty of space |
10:19.51 | ltosky[m] | waste space is not an argument for this case, really |
10:19.52 | leszek | shtrb: good thing it is free software. Feel free to modify the code in such a way you can remove it :) |
10:20.08 | shtrb | leszek , I tried this morning |
10:20.21 | shtrb | got KDE broken in a way that I had to renistall packages |
10:20.27 | leszek | so you noticed that it isn't that easily done |
10:20.31 | vvande | I like the UNIX approace where things are independent - but I don't expect that from KDE |
10:20.34 | shtrb | that is why I asked nicly :) |
10:21.06 | leszek | shtrb: that isn't a task of just removing packages it needs code changes aswell. So not trivial |
10:21.13 | ltosky[m] | vvande things may be independent but a certain level |
10:21.34 | shtrb | leszek , I started with uninstalling and attempt to rebuild with out it |
10:21.42 | shtrb | when I found out I borke KDE I stoped |
10:21.56 | vvande | I don't think integartion is a good thing. But like I say, I accept KDE on it's own terms because I like parts of it. |
10:22.11 | vvande | s/intergartion/integartion |
10:22.55 | leszek | vvande: integration is one of the key features of the KDE Plasma desktop and one thing people like the most. To have a fully integrated desktop. You cannot have both either the one or the other |
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10:23.24 | vvande | leszek: I know. I think it's too bad. |
10:23.39 | vvande | to me an OS is not the same as a DE |
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10:24.26 | vvande | I've never ever used Windows in my 35 years in computers so the idea of an integrated OS/DE is foreign to me. |
10:24.49 | vvande | In any case, I accept what I can get from free software. :) |
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10:25.19 | vvande | and I respect that others have different ideas |
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10:27.03 | shtrb | leszek , remember when baloo was indexing everything ? |
10:27.15 | t-ask | Hi, I'm searching a Pomodoro widget. Unfortunately I can't find one. Is there one available for Plasma? |
10:27.19 | shtrb | do you think it can be trusted after it ? |
10:29.13 | leszek | shtrb: baloo works fine on all of my systems here |
10:29.33 | shtrb | I didn't say it worked in a non fine way , but it choices have implications |
10:30.15 | leszek | I think the defaults are good enough. At least I never had problems with baloo in contrast to nepomuk |
10:30.17 | shtrb | the fact it used to index everything except a list of predefined folders is a HUGE issue for some users |
10:30.28 | vvande | shtrb: what kind of "trust" are you talking about? |
10:30.52 | leszek | shtrb: what kind of HUGE issue ? Don't you want you pr0n be indexed :P ? |
10:30.55 | shtrb | vvande , the defaults (when it is enable or not) |
10:31.21 | shtrb | leszek, BYOD and work envoirement .... |
10:31.24 | vvande | well if you can disable it with a simple command, then I don't see an issue |
10:31.50 | shtrb | You assume something will not switch that state |
10:32.03 | vvande | and also, if you can chose the directories that it excludes, just add them all like "/home" is probably enough to turn it off lol |
10:32.21 | einar77_work | shtrb: that's left for integrators to enable/disable (aka distributions9 |
10:32.23 | leszek | yeah you can turn it off. There are also some distros by default turning it off I guess |
10:32.27 | leszek | so I don't see the problem |
10:32.51 | vvande | my desdtop search was off by default |
10:33.02 | vvande | according to the GUI |
10:33.03 | shtrb | so if it is possible to "disable" it why not an option to remove it ? |
10:33.27 | vvande | I'd use Fluxbox in your case. haha |
10:33.38 | shtrb | but I liked kde (minus baloo) |
10:33.54 | shtrb | *like no past tense |
10:34.29 | vvande | funny, but I'm the one who doesn't use 90% of KDE features - I just want the right colours easily configured |
10:34.43 | vvande | that's my excuse for using KDE :) |
10:34.52 | vvande | I just ignore all the rest. |
10:35.04 | shtrb | I use KDE for Kontact and konqueror mostly :) |
10:35.13 | vvande | oh yeah, Konq is great |
10:35.18 | leszek | shtrb: were looping right now in topic |
10:35.31 | leszek | *we're |
10:35.38 | vvande | ;) |
10:35.55 | shtrb | yes |
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10:40.04 | shtrb | Does anyone have a suggestion for a widget that can interact with akregator ? |
10:40.08 | shtrb | *plasmoid |
10:42.22 | shtrb | speaking of konqueror anyone with Spnego system around ? |
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10:48.30 | leszek | anyone knows about khotkeys not working anymore after kf5.30 update ? I mean kcmshell5 khotkeys opens up a transparent window which seems to freeze |
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10:51.08 | leszek | well I try compiling khotkeys anew against it lets see if it fixes the issue |
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11:04.04 | vladimiroff | Is there definitive list of KDE projects still using WebKit instead of Qt WebEngine? |
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11:11.25 | yossarianuk | hi - running kubuntu 16.10 + Plasma 5.8 PPA - how can I change pidgin notification volume ? |
11:11.36 | yossarianuk | i.e when I get a notication I can see the volume in the application volume in 'audio volume' however as soon as the sound finishes I cannot see it any longer and when another sound occurs it goes to the default volume |
11:12.19 | leszek | nice new khotkeys version fixed the issue |
11:13.18 | leszek | yossarianuk: this means you are not fast enough changing the volume because it dissappears to fast ? |
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11:19.38 | yossarianuk | leszek: yes and it seems if I do some how manage to slide the volume the next notication goes back to default volume |
11:19.58 | shtrb | yossarianuk, wasn't it a pulseaudio issue ? |
11:20.13 | shtrb | when apps will go to the max in case of a new notification ? |
11:20.16 | leszek | yossarianuk: do you maybe have flat volume support enabled in pulseaudio? |
11:20.32 | shtrb | what leszek said |
11:21.21 | leszek | yossarianuk: you can check by looking into /etc/pulse/daemon.conf and search for flat-volumes |
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11:22.16 | shtrb | flat-volumes = no |
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11:24.06 | yossarianuk | yes - its set to = no |
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11:24.17 | shtrb | is it uncommented ? |
11:24.33 | yossarianuk | nope |
11:24.49 | shtrb | then uncomment (no ; or # in front of it) |
11:25.05 | yossarianuk | ok - trhank |
11:25.08 | yossarianuk | *thanks* |
11:26.51 | shtrb | Speaking of pulseaudio is there a KDE app for it ? |
11:27.36 | shtrb | I mean something which is integrated into systemsettings |
11:27.41 | yossarianuk | I think in kubuntu pulseaudio is used by default |
11:28.04 | yossarianuk | oh - you mean a QT based app ? |
11:28.04 | tosky | shtrb: a *Plasma* application, yes, the new plasma-pa |
11:28.59 | shtrb | is looking for a package |
11:29.00 | shtrb | thanks |
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11:36.44 | tcanabrava_ | shtrb: kmix uses pulseaudio |
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11:47.44 | shtrb | canabrava_, I found the setting I needed under multimedia |
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11:59.31 | yossarianuk | fairly major issue... I have dual screen - if I try to use the right click menu on the right screen (i.e using dolphin) on an icon near the right of the screen the right click menu doesn't open |
11:59.41 | yossarianuk | sorry - I dont mean the inital right click menu - i mean the sub menu - i.e right click on icon -> open-with (for example) |
11:59.53 | yossarianuk | <PROTECTED> |
12:00.01 | yossarianuk | [11:55] <yossarianuk> i.e I cannot use right click menu unless I drag the icon to the left of the screen on the right monitor - its like it cant open as its trying to open to the right but its the screen edge... |
12:00.12 | yossarianuk | [11:58] <yossarianuk> if I hover over (for exmaple) open-with -> nothing happens I see no sub menu unless I drag the dolphin screen over to the left of the screen |
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12:04.48 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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12:05.09 | yossarianuk | its not just dolphin its all apps. |
12:05.21 | yossarianuk | all kde apps |
12:05.32 | yossarianuk | firefox for example is ok - the sub menu opens to the left |
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12:06.55 | shtrb | yossarianuk , try goint to a different vt and then back |
12:09.02 | asturm | leszek: well, baloo _is_ optional |
12:09.17 | asturm | but it involves building a few packages with the option turned off |
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12:09.48 | asturm | and that's not something that a binary distro is usually going to provide |
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12:12.19 | shtrb | asturm , can you try building dolphin ? |
12:12.37 | asturm | shtrb: pardon? |
12:12.54 | shtrb | can you try building dolphin withou baloo |
12:13.17 | asturm | shtrb: I don't have to try, I have done it |
12:14.16 | shtrb | oh , I didn't understand , it worked flawlessly (the build) ? |
12:14.34 | asturm | everything works flawlessly |
12:15.03 | asturm | (not with more flaws than usual) |
12:15.13 | shtrb | checks his packeging skills because dolphin (the version in debian failed to build when he tried to disable it) |
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12:16.21 | asturm | shtrb: basically you build with -DCMAKE_DISABLE_FIND_PACKAGE_KF5{Baloo,BalooWidgets,FileMetaData}=ON |
12:23.18 | yossarianuk | shtrb: doesn't help - I have nvidia/optimus if that helps |
12:23.46 | shtrb | sorry |
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14:57.33 | killown | what's going on with plasma 5.8? new home user fresh install and missing icons from eveywhere? |
14:57.43 | killown | tried to change the icon theme but didn't fix |
14:58.17 | tosky | killown: right click -> configure... -> how is the layout? |
14:58.24 | tosky | folder view or desktop? |
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14:59.08 | killown | tosky, no icons in the panel meny, systemsettings, everywhere |
14:59.12 | killown | not only in the desktop |
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14:59.21 | killown | the desktop went for the text mode |
14:59.44 | tosky | killown: that would be a big issue, but given that it was not reported around, I would suggest an issue with your configuration |
14:59.52 | tosky | how did you install Plasma? |
14:59.59 | killown | configuration? |
15:00.04 | killown | I am using a new home user |
15:00.14 | killown | pacman -S plasma |
15:00.42 | tosky | please ask on archlinux channels |
15:00.54 | killown | https://bpaste.net/show/5d434e0bdf85 |
15:01.06 | tosky | my first guess is something distribution-related |
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18:42.01 | ntldr | I'm not sure does this question belong here but I've tried to get numix icon theme to work with arch linux w/ KDE but some icons are missing.. so I guess numix doesn't fully support KDE yet? for example pidgin tray icon is just white empty icon.. |
18:42.46 | asturm | ntldr: pidgin isn't even KDE related |
18:43.34 | ntldr | no, but it's strange that in mate numix was working correctly but in kde it doesn't. |
18:43.37 | ntldr | icons missing |
18:45.02 | rdieter | ntldr: as far as I know, systray icons are... special. often do not use icon theme anyway |
18:45.36 | rdieter | ntldr: or... in this case, the problem being pidgin's use of legacy/xembed systray may be not-working/incompatible |
18:46.25 | rdieter | ntldr: see also https://launchpad.net/pidgin-indicator |
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18:46.51 | rdieter | for a pidgin plugin to make it work with modern systray implementations (like plasma or unity) |
18:47.41 | rdieter | sorry, make that https://github.com/philipl/pidgin-indicator |
18:47.46 | rdieter | (copy-n-paste fail) |
18:48.01 | ntldr | the only "fix" I found was to select from icons menu numix circle, go to application style -> gnome application -> icon theme (set something else) -> fallback (something else) = done now it shows up correctly but different icon set obviously |
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19:27.42 | ntldr | is that KDE shutdown sequence suppose to be so slow? I've my OS on SSD obviously but when I press shutdown it takes several seconds before it's completely off.. if I open up terminal type shutdown now it goes off instantly.. I find this bit odd |
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19:31.54 | rdieter | ntldr: several seconds is slow? heh |
19:32.33 | rdieter | fyi, terminal shutdown just kills everything in your user session. session shutdown closes apps gracefully (ie, asks them to exit and save state, etc...) |
19:33.17 | ntldr | right so it's suppose to do that |
19:33.26 | ntldr | coz I wasn't sure actually.. |
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21:08.45 | bascht | Hi all! Just dropping by on my bi-yearly »Let's give KDE / Plasma« another try tour and it really looks good so far. :) |
21:10.11 | bascht | The only thing bugging me currently is one simple but annoying thing: I'm missing the gtk-key-theme I could set in GNOME, which makes all applications adhere to the Emacs shortcuts (Ctrl-Movements, et. al) â is there anything alike in KDE meanwhile? The only way seems to be re-mapping all keys manually. :-/ |
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