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01:06.16tsuusifrosAny help with setting up KDE for arch? I have KDE session up and running but I don't see any window buttons for closing stuff, or can't resize windows
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01:09.09j605open a terminal and run kwin_x11
01:09.33j605I think something similar happened to me where kwin didn't start
01:09.34thiagoor Alt+F2 and type kwin_x11
01:09.46thiagoit's happened to me twice over the last 4 months
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01:11.52tsuusifrosit seems that my qt5 installation is missing
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01:18.16tsuusifrosI tried installing it but now I can only boot to dark screen
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01:39.40tsuusifrosI found what was wrong, sddm didn't start properly so I switched to lightdm
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04:18.14extorAfter installing xrdp I was amazed at how easily I was able to RDP to my remote VM. However, the desktop or window manager looks extremely plain. I'm wondering whether xrdp has it's own barebones null window manager or whether it can bind to a fancier window manager of one's own choosing  â”_(ツ)_┌ /
04:18.28extorOh evidently it does
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07:59.50negaoHi. When I switch activity I keep seeing the applications started in the other activity. This isn't the way it is supposed to be right?
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09:22.47bodomHi there. I am trying to switch back to KDE after a few years, not that it seems to be stable again. Anyway, i found there is a lot of bloatware now in my system tray. Is there a guide somewhere on how to disable/uninstall it?
09:27.37bodomin other words, how do i remove icons from the tray bar?
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09:30.48shtrbyou can start by removing them from the tray (hiding ) - click on system try settings (right click on the arrow) and then unchcking
09:32.35bodomshtrb: thanks! Tha's a good start :)
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09:41.40shtrband morning to all
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10:07.17Thaodanwhen I try to print from okular/gwenview or kmail I try to print to another size than a4 (default), results in printing to a4 instead, any ideas?
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10:09.36shtrbdid you check your printer is not set to A4 (in cups ) ?
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10:11.56shtrbThaodan , does it print correctly from any other tool ?
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10:16.30Thaodanshtrb: yes evince (gnome gtk based) works fine
10:16.45Thaodandefault printing size is a4
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10:21.07shtrbis it only with PDF or any document ?
10:22.48Thaodani tried to print a jpg in gwenview and i got the same issue
10:24.26Thaodancups log: https://paste.kde.org/pb0t53ehs
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11:23.16imihi
11:23.32imihow can I import mbox files to the new kmail?
11:24.33leszekimi: tried akonadi yet ? You should be able to import it there
11:24.50iminope, I haven't. I use kmail
11:25.15imiand I want my mbox email to appear in my kmail inbox, the right tool should be kmail imho
11:25.35imidoes akonadi have a gui?
11:26.10imihowever I tried dragging & dropping the mbox file to my inbox, it didn't work
11:27.24einar77_workimi: start "importwizard" or use "Import..." from the File menu in KMail
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11:28.43imieinar77_work: I don't have this import menu entry in kmail (neither the importwizard binary)
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11:29.13mitch0hello. can someone tell me what executable file does the new plasma shell try to create under ~/.cache?
11:29.34mitch0I had a noexec tmpfs .cache and I couldn't log into plasma (after a recent update)
11:29.36einar77_workimi: which distribution are you using, and which Kmail version?
11:29.46mitch0was a hell to debug/find the issue
11:29.53einar77_work(the menu entry is called "Import messages...")
11:30.26imieinar77_work: sabayon up to date, kmail Version 5.4.1
11:30.46imieinar77_work: now I see the menu entry, it is disabled
11:30.56einar77_workimi: check if you have an "akonadi-import-wizard" package to install
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11:31.25einar77_work(the name is from the upstream tarball; your distribution may have changed it)
11:31.57asturmimi: if sabayon packaging is anything similar to gentoo, you should have that exact package available
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11:37.43imieinar77_work, asturm: thank you, I installed that package, and the import menuentry started to work
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11:40.49asturmkdepim-meta would give you the full suite
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11:58.21BluesKajHi all
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13:02.33shtrbis KDE slimbook sold anywhere other than slimbook.es ?
13:03.36shtrband is it really KDE thing or someone just selling notebooks and use KDE name
13:04.44shtrbI'm talking about http://kde.slimbook.es/
13:08.06leszekshtrb: they work officially together with the KDE Community
13:08.20leszekshtrb: see https://dot.kde.org/2017/01/26/kde-and-slimbook-release-laptop-kde-fans
13:09.25rdieterthe website referenced also essentially says the same thing: "With the KDE Slimbook the KDE Community, in cooperation with Slimbook, takes a new leap in providing us all - users and creators alike - with a safe, private and productive experience..."
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13:10.06rdietershtrb: does ^^ not answer your question?
13:10.29shtrbrdieter , I can open a site and write the same thing that is why I came to ask if it is really like that
13:10.41shtrband thanks leszek , it kind of does answer it
13:11.15rdietershtrb: you could, but then could get sued for trademark infringement  :-/
13:11.33rdieterbut point taken.
13:11.42rdieteryou wanted confirmation, and you now have it
13:15.15leszekhmm... konsole only detects links if they are in one line only. If a link is split in two lines it only detects the first line part of the link. Anybody knows how to fix it ?
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13:20.30shtrbrdieter , not to be that guy but slimbook is a laptop brand ( Fujitsu )
13:22.14rdietershtrb: how is that relevant?
13:22.30shtrbtrademark infringement
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13:23.03rdieterhow is that relevant to whether http://kde.slimbook.es/ is legitimate?
13:23.23rdietereither way, that's slimbook.es's problem (if it *is* a problem)
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13:23.59shtrbnever mind , forget about it
13:24.29rdietersorry for being pedantic, but I've had to actually deal with trademarks on more than one occasion (it's not fun)
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13:26.41Dearuhello, do i need westion to run plasma on Wayland?
13:28.01rdieterDearu: no (kwin can do it)
13:28.37Dearuhm it crashes on start up. Any ideas? I am on manjaro
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13:48.33e-animaif i remeber correctly i talked about kdenlive with you leszek, some days ago. about 4k playback issues and you told me about proxys
13:49.24ShalokShalomi dont have any red chosen in my current colors and there appears one anyway: http://funkyimg.com/i/2o4Ud.png
13:51.48leszeke-anima: yeah exactly
13:52.55e-animai have another question abot that because you also did some 4k stuff. so in general you create a project with 4k settings, create small proxies from the main 4k videofiles and place them in the timeline. then the playback is fluide even with the stretched proxys?
13:53.03ashkahi, I am having an issue with pulseaudio and kde interaction, whenever a kde application plays a sound (like a notification sound), the sound that pulseaudio plays stutters, and I'm not really sure why.. phonon is configurated to use pulseaudio but that doesn't seem to be the case. Using arch with plasma 5.8.5-1, apps 16.12.1-1, phonon 4.9.1-1
13:53.38leszeke-anima: I don't create a 4k project. Usually I work with FullHD and use 4k to downscale or to zoom into parts
13:54.05leszekashka: try switching the phonon backend
13:54.30e-animaok
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13:56.18ashkaleszek: I only have pulseaudio available as backend in the settings, so I assume this is what is selected
13:59.11leszekashka: pulseaudio is not a backend for phonon it is a sound server. Please check your settings. At least a phonon vlc and phonon gstreamer backend should be available. You might need to install one or another as only one is shipped by default
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14:00.09leszeke-anima: but for the proxies of the 4k videoclips, yeah playback is fluid
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14:00.19e-animaok thank you
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14:03.44BluesKajpulseaudio can be very helpful with snd drivers that depend on it's presence, intel hda cards on the other hand are written to engage completely with alsa without pulseaudio in the mix, hrnce no pulse required if you have an intel soundchip
14:03.55BluesKajhence
14:04.30e-animalol cleared the project cache restart kdenlive...he says al proxies gone project busted. dangerous thing
14:05.53leszeke-anima: yeah proxies are stored in cache. If you remove the cache the proxies get removed
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14:06.02BluesKajnot suggesting users remoce pulse, but informing those who might be interested in fewer processes in their audio setups
14:06.38e-animayea and the project is busted. ist like the original files never existed
14:06.44e-animathey are gone from teh project too
14:07.01leszeke-anima: you should be able to recreate the proxies from the originals
14:07.19e-animayes but the originals are gone too. i will test to replace
14:07.56e-animaok that system is really not done nicely
14:08.47leszeke-anima: that should not be
14:08.58leszekkdenlive 16.12.1 ?
14:08.59e-animayea i thought so
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14:09.06e-animalatest
14:09.08e-anima1 or 1-2
14:09.27e-animayea i have 16 12 1
14:09.28leszeke-anima: report it as a bug then
14:09.43e-animawell i can not really because the process wasnt something special
14:09.47leszekit never happend to me though I did not tested with the latest version
14:09.48e-animareplication is not given
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14:21.40ashkaleszek: ah sorry I misunderstood. I was using gstreamer, installed and selected vlc but the issue is still happening
14:23.31leszekhmm... then maybe some pulseaudio setting causing the issue
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14:39.46extorhas had X recover from an OOM crash and it restarted the KDE session and wonders if there's a way to probe the "uptime" of the current KDE session in much the same way as one can get the operating system's uptime in the shell just by typing the word ¯_(ツ)_/¯
14:40.24toskywell, the Plasma session can be probably tracked by looking at the plasmashell process
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14:46.17extorDoesn't look right http://pastebin.com/yciQB8XW
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17:47.11dushaniHi I am new to KDE. I would like to apply for KDE in GSOC 2017. Can anyone guide to me how to get started? :)
17:49.32toskydid you check https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved
17:49.34tosky?
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19:04.40dushanino I mean as a beginner to get familiarized?
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21:07.55weabotis there any work on amarok anymore
21:11.30rindolfweabot: I think it's still maintained
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21:23.35weabotrindolf: the last update was in 2015 if I'm not wrong though
21:23.42weabotit's still on qt4 and it doesn'
21:23.44weabotoops
21:23.49weabotit doesn't listen to the plasma multimedia control
21:23.57weabotI have to bind media next to amarok only
21:24.03rindolfweabot: ah
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21:24.36weabotso I'm wondering what's up with that, it seems that clementine is being the more iconic KDE music player than amarok right now
21:25.14asturmweabot: is its qt5 branch actually usable by now?
21:25.38weabotclementine? I'm not sure
21:25.42weabotI'll try it right now actually
21:25.51asturmlast time I checked it would just segfault
21:26.03weabotdid you compile it with gcc or clang
21:26.11asturmgcc of course
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21:27.28asturmI'm using cantata right now
21:28.22weabotI might try that
21:28.31weabotif I'm not satisfied with anything else
21:28.37rindolfis using VLC mostly
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21:44.51weabotasturm: nope, doesn't work for me
21:44.54weabotI'll try cantata though
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22:47.12vidjogamerDoes anyone know where Dolphin mounts samba shares? I'd like to mount a share then access it from another program, like Krita. I was able to do this in other file browsers but I'm not sure how Dolphin handles it.
22:48.20vidjogamerUsing Plasma 5.8, Dolphin 16.04.3
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23:07.26nyarnavidjogamer: KIO is the backend. Correct me if I'm wrong but, as far as I know KIO doesn't mount when the client app doesn't support KIO. Instead it creates a temp file and opens it.
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23:09.14nyarnaI remember,there was kio-fuse which works with mounts
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