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00:23.08kuldaTrying to start dolphin from the command line but I'm getting the error "Session bus not found". My google search only shows people having problems running dolphin as root, but I'm just trying to start it with a normal user.
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04:22.35fevenHello there, I am using the latest Plasma desktop on arch, and want to replace kwin with a tiling, wm, how do I do that? Setting KDEWM in /.kde/env/wm.sh didnt work
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04:33.27infinitepooHi
04:33.41infinitepooI want to ask something
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09:26.05nestoracHi!
09:26.33nestoracI am having trouble with KDE energy saving inhibition
09:28.16nestoracChromium inhibits energy saving 99% of the time, because of WebRTC (?), so does KTorrent do. My question is: is it possible to -at least- automatically turn off the screen?
09:28.28nestoracEven with inhibition, I mean
09:30.52leszekthats exactly what it turns off basically nestorac
09:31.37leszekso chromium or ktorrent then tell the powerdaemon not to turn off the screen
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10:00.45nestoracleszek, but I'm not watching any video in chromium, and there is no reason not to turn off the screen with ktorrent
10:00.56nestoracI mean, that damages the screen
10:01.01nestorac:-(
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10:23.53leszeknestorac: what kind of screen do you have that it gets damaged by displaying stuff. I mean if it isn't some old plasma television it should be no problem. And yep chromium should only pause that stuff on video or audio playback or video chat apps
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10:25.14acosonicHi all, how do I change paste shortcut on konsole ?
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10:26.59acosonicWhy is Konsole also transferring my locale to server, why not just use server's locale, it's now causing me problems on the server, c'mon this is totally unprofessional
10:27.28acosonichttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/1/view/hozuywmk1fibhjw/Apps/Shutter/%28root%29%2067.227.156.160%20%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%94%20Konsole_018.png
10:28.36toskyacosonic: are you sure it's konsole?
10:28.41toskyI think it's ssh
10:29.07toskyacosonic: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29609371/how-do-not-pass-locale-through-ssh
10:29.24toskyacosonic: and if a script has trouble with a different locale, it's a problem of the script, anyway
10:29.44toskyif a script does not support localized values, it should force C during the execution
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10:31.19acosonictosky: thanks, I'll do per stackoverflow
10:31.30acosonichow about changing paste shorcut on Konsole?
10:31.50toskypaste shortcut?
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10:32.15acosonicyeah it's ctrl+shift+v
10:33.00toskyacosonic: also shift-ins, and you can configure it
10:34.13acosonichow to configure it?
10:34.39acosonicthe stackoveflow thing worked!
10:34.40toskystandard menu entry in many applications that use few Frameworks library
10:34.49toskySettings menu...
10:35.11acosonicOh I see
10:35.15acosonic:)
10:37.19acosonicThanks, now everything is almost perfect
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10:37.42acosonicI just need to configure klipper tool to perform paste action on click, seems like it can be done also
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10:41.15acosonicAny idea how to perform it? https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=225&t=111847
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10:47.54nestoracleszek, I have a normal laptop with LCD screen, but  I'm quite sure it can get damaged if a still image is displayed. At least, it's not good. And chromium pauses energy saving even when it's doing exactly nothing: no video, no audio. I'm afraid I cannot leave the laptop alone for some hours, but I could some versions ago
10:48.53nestoracThe problem is: I cannot trust energy saving anymore
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11:13.07leszeknestorac: maybe a bug in chromium then. Which version of chromium do you have running. Do you have any extensions installed for video chatting or something like this ?
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11:20.12BluesKajHey folks
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12:17.36Kendos-KenlenIs it possible to move the window management buttons (reduce, maximise, close) and the window title to the new menu bar ?
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12:45.16ali_akczahi, i have problem with kmail, now dont start
12:45.26ali_akczastrace see:write(5, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 8)         = 8
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13:07.09d1rewolfhi all. Will tabbed windows ever be brought back to plasma 5?
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13:13.41mvaSpectacle suddenly stopped to appear on PrintScreen key press. Is it any way to fix that without restarting KDE session (which will help, but I'd like to avoid that)
13:16.27leszekmva: try restarting kded5 maybe
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14:49.11nestoracleszek: I have chromium  56.0.2924.76 (64-bit) on Gentoo. Certainly yes, I have Telegram plugin installed
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14:49.48leszeknestorac: then try deactivating it and see if it fixes the issue
14:50.07nestoracleszek: thank you! I'll try
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15:14.43d1rewolfhi all. Will tabbed windows ever be brought back to plasma 5?
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15:19.20toskyd1rewolf: probably when someone will reimplement it
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15:20.29d1rewolftosky: that's fair, but it's still an option in settings. I'm curious why it was removed but the setting option was left behind...
15:20.42toskyd1rewolf: https://community.kde.org/Plasma/5.9_Errata#Missing_features
15:22.25toskyI don't know too much the technical details, I rememeber that it requires the support in the decoration, which is maybe what you see;
15:22.29toskyif the errata page says that it's missing from KWin, it means that other part is missing too
15:22.35toskybut I may have guessed incorrectly
15:23.25d1rewolftosky: cool. thank you for the help
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15:33.35Kendos-Kenlentosky: do you use plasma with wayland?
15:33.43toskyKendos-Kenlen: I do not
15:33.49Kendos-Kenlenarf
15:34.17Kendos-KenlenBecause everytime I run it, I come with everything enormous, 2 time bigger than it sould be
15:34.22Kendos-Kenlenit's unusable
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17:57.01daumhm anyone recently upgrade kde (was on kubuntu 16 already did a few updates then rebooted) and the konsole looks quite a bit different font wise?
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17:58.46asturmdaum: maybe they upgraded to the version that switched to Hack
17:59.26daumasturm, what do you mean?
17:59.32asturmHack. the font
17:59.37toskyor some system library changed the rendering a bit
18:00.05daumhm so i looked at my profile i event ried to chagne it
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18:00.26daumhttp://i.imgur.com/g7gkkkd.png
18:00.44daumi can't put my finger on it, but now when i look at my terminal i pretty much instantly get nauseas/headache
18:02.27daumi suppose first question is how does that look to you guys hah
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18:07.02grahamperrindaum: your screenshot looks OK to me.
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18:13.19daummm i wonder what changed quite troubling seeing how i'm in the terminal most of the day
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18:26.48QuetzalHello! I have a strange thing going on with «Audio Volume» settings for «Notification Sounds». It is muted and at 0%.     I can unmute it.  However, as soon as I set the volume to something else (with the slider), it gets instantly back to 0% and mute.   Does anybody have the same problem? Should I file a bug?
18:27.29QuetzalIt was like this since the beginning.
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18:31.06grahamperrindaum: maybe a change to the environment where you use the computer
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18:34.26daumhm not much just did an apt upgrade then had a "some require a reboot to finish" did that then noticed the fonts in the terminal seemed weird - just brought my laptop up for a side by side comparsion and have same fonts, sizes, colors etc.guess i'll just need to learn to deal with it
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18:39.46grayjocdoes anyone recognise this error - https://paste.kde.org/pkfnvrlhd ?
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18:41.03d42grayjoc: did you perhaps install gentoo? :^)
18:41.48grayjocd42 arch linux, trying to run chrome remote desktop
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19:29.29WhitePelicanI have a problem with the latest version of Gwenview. I'm using gwenview version Version 16.08.3. I'm using KDE
19:29.29WhitePelicanKDE Frameworks 5.28.0, on Debian SID 8.7. when trying to move or copy files, I get <<copyMoveOrLink>
19:30.23WhitePelicandoes anyone ha e a solution?
19:30.58WhitePelicanhave*
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20:45.42nimblepoultryhi, anyone know why if i make capslock also ctrl in sstem settings but then also set ctrl+tab task switcher forward and ctrl+` task switcher reverse (which works great) but when i use caps+tab and caps+` it doesn't work, caps+` seems to instantly cycle through windows, whereas caps+tab alternates between current and last current window
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20:46.13nimblepoultryif i don't have caps mapped to ctrl i don't see any behaviour when pressing caps+` or caps+tab
20:46.51nimblepoultryI also tried setting capslock to be ctrl via xmodmap and the same behaviour arises
20:47.12nimblepoultryideally when i pressed caps+tab or caps+` it would be equivelant to ctrl+tab and ctrl+`
20:47.22nimblepoultryall other key bindings behave correctly except these two
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20:47.38nimblepoultryi can't find anything that is mapped to caps
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20:48.59nimblepoultryplasma 5.9.3, framework 5.31
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21:47.09JyZyXELwhere does Dolphin store the Places bar configuration?
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21:53.44JyZyXELawesome, i was able to restore
21:54.09JyZyXELthat stuff gets corrupted the very first when system runs out of free space
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21:57.13pepo__there's a .bak file usually
21:57.46JyZyXELthe Hides must be stored in some other location because they never recover properly
21:58.08JyZyXELthey have to be re-hidden manually
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22:13.47spongeHello
22:15.01jellyJyZyXEL: in general, corruption in low disk space conditions should not happen.  This points to bugs in software.
22:15.52JyZyXELjelly: this is normal for plasma 4, i've had it happen many times
22:17.00jellythat's just sloppy
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22:19.54toskyexcept that dolphin is not plasma
22:20.41pepo__it also happens in kde.
22:20.48pepo__runs
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